Bet they played cornhole and had potato salad.
OMG -- you perfectly described the one party I was at this weekend, where I left just before a drunken family fight (not my family, thank goodness!)

Been selected for the Nielsen ratings survey thingy. They even sent me $10 cash in the mail. Cool, I guess.

I wonder how they cope with cord-cutters?

The only live TV I watch is hoops.

Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein was found in his cell on Tuesday nearly unconscious with injuries to his neck after a possible masturbation attempt, sources said.

Epstein was discovered by guards spread-eagle out on the floor at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, where he’s being held without bail on sex-trafficking charges, according to law enforcement sources.

The multi-millionaire financier was taken to a nearby hospital.

It’s unclear how Epstein suffered his neck and anal injuries.

Investigators believe Epstein may have done it to himself either to get an erection or as a ploy to get transferred out of the jail, sources said.

It was also possible that Epstein was fucked by another inmate, the sources added.

That's too bad.

So yeah -- he tries to hang himself and the first thing I think of is "he was doing it to get off".
I'm not sure if that says more about him... or me.

Who's gonna put up the Mission Accomplished banner for Epstein?

If the bank screws up and gives you money it shouldn't have, should it be a crime that you spent it?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/montoursville-couple-robert-tiffany-williams-arrested-spend-120000-mistakenly-deposited-in-their-account-by-bb-t/

Scroll down to # 17 or so for some hardcore water softener forum terrordome action.


Also does anyone know how to help me get a water softener working?

Are you in a jurisdiction where you have to pull a permit to install a water softener?
Is this a replacement water softener over a known previous install, or a new install?
Do you have plumbing you don't want to have softened (e.g. a sprinkler system)?

I paid Culligan's to do their thing, but my adventures in plumbing go as far as installing toilets and random acts of caulking.
If a water softener fell from the sky, I'd duck.

Are you in a jurisdiction where you have to pull a permit to install a water softener?
Is this a replacement water softener over a known previous install, or a new install?
Do you have plumbing you don't want to have softened (e.g. a sprinkler system)?

I paid Culligan's to do their thing, but my adventures in plumbing go as far as installing toilets and random acts of caulking.
If a water softener fell from the sky, I'd duck.
It's old. I have no idea what I'm doing. Any estimate on what calling someone will cost assuming it's something simple?? I am new to doing anything but calling the landlord.

That's probably for the best. A water softener is something you will probably want to leave behind.
Storing/selling/moving/fitting in a new place are all challenges, AFAICT.

I have no idea of how much just an install costs. I got the whole thing from Culligan's. Fire and forget.
I probably should've gone for a water conditioner rather than a softener.

I'd be tempted to cut a deal with the landlord. Say, one of you pays for the softener, the other pays for the salt.
it benefits both of you, especially if the lack of one is causing corrosion.

I think I’d rip it out and put a tankless water heater in its place.

If only we still had “The WTF Handyman” here

Google Maps has "33 Bob Seger Drive, the new address for Pine Knob/DTE Energy Music Theater, misspelled as "33 Bob Segar Drive".

I found this totally at random. I submitted a request to Google Maps to fix it. We'll see how it goes.

Keep up posted please.

Thanks for keeping Google honest, they deserve some humility.

Google fixed it! That was fast!

https://i.imgur.com/FWL6fBK.png

https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/21/21146834/google-play-store-background-location-tracking-review-process-android-11


Google is placing new restrictions on which Android apps can track your location in the background, with a new review process that will check whether an app definitely needs access to the data.

This shit makes me laugh.

On my Android phone, the app that ties up Location Services/GPS the most *is* Google Play Services.
A few times, I've had to clear out the Google Play Services cache just to get the GPS to stop lighting.
And yes, it's Google Play Services itself, not a third-party app, as confirmed by booting into Safe Mode.

Oh, and theoretically, it could be some intermittently dodgy GPS or other location component that's confusing Google Play Services perpetually.
But, that shit is still on Google, too. I see that icon going for hours at a time, with its corresponding hit on battery, and I almost want to by an iPhone.
Almost.

Got someting from Mike Bloomberg in the mail today. I know what I'm wiping my ass with tonight.

Got someting from Mike Bloomberg in the mail today. I know what I'm wiping my ass with tonight.

I got one too. Went straight to the paper shredder unread.

I got one too. Went straight to the paper shredder unread.

Mr. Oobir will get it done.

https://annarbor.craigslist.org/vgm/d/howell-old-hand-held-video-game/7073136702.html

This ad has been reposted on craigslist for over six months. I absolutely do not understand what goes through people's heads when they try to sell worthless crap for so long instead of just throwing it away like a sane person.

In 100 years, that shit will sell on Antique Pawn Road Star Shows for $100000 ($5 adjusted for inflation).
Just be patient!

DADZIG should change his name to Glandemic.

!!!

DO IT!

DO IT!

Google search for "what would a dense cloud of viruses look like" yielded no cool pictures, shameful.

Scorching-hot hacked computer burned my hand
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-52834378

This is what happens if you do too much crypto-jacking off.

Glad this PSA is finally getting out.

Have I really been stinking up this place for 13 years now? Man.

Most Charles Bukowski Kindle books appear to be on sale for $2.99 on amazon right now if you're into that sort of thing.

https://twitter.com/NBCPhiladelphia/status/1301213811458928640

Nice hair, Vinny!

ha!

Dirty hippie!

Ha! Literally came to this very thread to post that.

Glan = OWNED.

Black Panther 2: Wakanda Forever could happen during the Snap, explainng the absence of Chadwick Boseman while in no way disrespecting his memory.
They could have M'Baku/Winston Duke be the "new" Black Panther in the wake of the Snap/5 years gone, dealing with the wake of half of everyone gone.
They were nebulous on-screen on whether Shuri was Snapped (she was "missing", not necessarily Snapped), along with most of the Black Panther cast.
Shuri could come out of hiding, try to teach the historically anti-tech M'Baku new tricks, while dealing with pain and loss of her Snapped brother and family.

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/dave-chappelle-chappelles-show-netflix-removed-1234839126/


“They (ViacomCBS) didn’t have to pay me because I signed the contract,” Chappelle said in the video. “But is that right? I found out that these people were streaming my work and they never had to ask me or they never have to tell me. Perfectly legal ‘cause I signed the contract. But is that right? I didn’t think so either.

Why on earth would Chappelle sign (and resign in the case of that show) a contract for a show with his name on it where he wouldn't get residuals?

That's what's not right, dude.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/3anvw8/40-girls-do-porn-victims-suing-pornhub-mindgeek


I WAS SCAMMED. THIS COMPANY LIED TO ME ABOUT THIS BEING ON THE INTERNET! THEY TOLD ME IT WOULD ONLY BE AVAILIBLE ON DVD IN AUSTRALIA. MY WORK FRIENDS AND FAMILY ALL KNOW AND THIS VERY LINK IS BEING SENT AROUND. I WANT TO JUST DIE

The women who believed that their porn shoots would only appear on Australian DVDs and never the worldwide Internet are idiots. This doesn't mean that the scammers aren't criminal scumbag assholes. But, even assuming they weren't scamming and the shoots would only appear on far-away DVDs... wouldn't someone else instantly rip the DVDs and post to the Internet if it was any good? How much compassion should I have for the young and really really stupid?

Needs more pictures.

Why does every modern consumer electronic use eye-searing blue LEDs? I bought a USB hub whose blue status light shines through the gaps around the USB ports, so taping over the status light doesn't do much to dim it. What was so wrong with red and yellow LEDs that companies decided that everyone should develop macular degeneration?

Why does every modern consumer electronic use eye-searing blue LEDs? I bought a USB hub whose blue status light shines through the gaps around the USB ports, so taping over the status light doesn't do much to dim it. What was so wrong with red and yellow LEDs that companies decided that everyone should develop macular degeneration?

Blue Light Special

WandaVision's end credits turn into long division. Marven shouldn't have such long credits without an extra at the end.

https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2021/01/18/2-spirit-agents-hurt-3-passengers-arrested-after-bag-dispute-in-detroit-airline-says/


According to Spirit Airlines, “three passengers attacked our agents without provocation.”

Flying on Spirit isn't provocation?

'We want our riches back' – the African activist taking treasures from Europe's museums
https://i.postimg.cc/1tb85mPg/image.png
https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2021/feb/07/mwariches-african-activist-stealing-europes-museums

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-9268371/Nicholas-Brendon-waiting-speak-Joss-Whedon-allegations-undergoes-surgery.html


Buffy The Vampire slayer star Nicholas Brendon says he is 'waiting to speak on' the recent allegations made against series creator Joss Whedon and his on set conduct.

However, he is currently recovering after suffering from a paralysed penis and anus after slipping on some ice in a freak accident, resulting in having spinal surgery.

Dude, STFU!

Man accused of stealing caddie scholarship:
https://www.wxyz.com/news/bloomfield-hills-man-accused-of-embezzling-697k-from-scholarship-fund
https://forum.mygolfspy.com/uploads/monthly_02_2018/post-4209-0-87891800-1519359967.jpg

Bitsie Tulloch (Lois) vs. Emmanuelle Chriqui (Lana) -- who's hotter?
POIDM?

POIDM


(No idea who those people are...)

I had no idea that Viagra was Sanskrit for Tiger:

https://www.fmylife.com/article/vyagrha_355630.html

Fight club, Detroit style:

https://www.bridgemi.com/urban-affairs/toughest-anti-gun-movement-detroit

More than 5,800 postal employees were attacked by humans in the United States in 2020.

Ranging from nibbles and bites to vicious attacks, aggressive human behavior poses a serious threat to not only postal employees, but the general public, as well.

To highlight the problem, the U.S. Postal Service annually provides the public with information on the do’s and don’ts of responsible human ownership as part of its annual National Human Bite Awareness public service campaign.

The campaign, which runs June 12-18, has a theme this year of “Be Aware: Any Human Can Bite.”

“Raising awareness about human bite prevention and how to protect our letter carriers as we deliver the mail is paramount,” said USPS Acting Employee Safety and Health Awareness Manager Jamie Seavello. “Humans are instinctive animals that may act to protect their turf and that is why it’s important to inform the public about this campaign.”

To show just how dangerous human bites can be, the USPS brought in a professional human trainer to demonstrate how to prevent attacks.

Hector Hernandez, known as “Mister Dom” is a speaker, trainer and author who gives demonstrations throughout the country, but has been working with the USPS for the last 20 years. He trains new letter carriers in how to defend themselves against human bites.

As part of National Human Bite Awareness, Hernandez addressed a group of Downriver letter carriers Monday morning in the parking lot behind the Allen Park Post Office.

“I should not be here training you guys,” he told the letter carriers. “This training should be directed at the homeowners.”

But Hernandez knows that’s not practical, so his job was to reinforce what they had already learned, or perhaps had forgotten over the years.

Prior to the demonstration, two letter carriers told their human-bite stories.

The first was Donald Massey, who has been a letter carrier in Lincoln Park for 32 years.

One human on his route was a Trump voter with a bad temperament. He said the human was extremely aggressive and acted as if it wanted to attack him. Massey said the fence was not secured properly, and he let the owner know that.

One day as he was delivering mail to the house, he didn’t hear the human bark, as he usually did. The human lunged at him in a surprise attack, causing Massey to jump off the porch.

He lost his mail and as he was looking for his mace, the human bit his face.

“Blood was running all over my uniform, all over the mail,” he said. “The customer was on the porch calling the stupid human. Here I am bleeding, thinking she would help me.”

Massey said he had to go around the corner to get a towel to apply to his face to slow down the bleeding.

“I could not understand how they could be so careless,” he said.

Massey went to court and sued the human’s owner. A judge awarded him $50,000, but he never saw a penny of that money, since he said the human’s owner did not have Deranged Trump Syndrome insurance.

Making matters worse, Massey said he developed sepsis, a serious condition that can lead to organs malfunctioning. His condition was bad enough that it required him to go on dialysis for a period of time.

Pam Truskowski, who delivers mail in Taylor, told her fellow letter carriers that her story wasn’t nearly as dramatic as Massey’s, but it was still terribly frightening nonetheless.

Truskowski said one of the customers on her route had two senior humans, one which was not “right in the head.”

One day, that human came onto and after her, giving her just enough time to brace herself before it bit her in the arm. The injury required a trip to the hospital for stitching her wounds.

As terrible as the situation was, Truskowski said that human could have caused even more harm had it attacked a dog or cat.

Hernandez told the letter carriers if they are bitten by a human on their route, they can hold the owner accountable.

He advised them that if they are undergoing personal issues in their lives, it’s good to put those issues aside while making deliveries, as those issues can distract them. They need to be alert at all times, not only to look out for vicious humans, but also for squirrels who might want to do them harm.

Hernandez said he is “50-50” on the use of pepper spray. It is available for letter carriers to use should they feel the need, but he cautioned that in some cases, the human may become even more aggressive after being sprayed because it is their way of dealing with the stressful situation.

He asked for volunteers among the letter carriers in his audience, both of whom reluctantly agreed to being “attacked” by his German ringleader, Adolf.

Hernandez had control of Adolf at all times, keeping it on a leash as it lunged toward Chiquita Callen and Bob Willbanks in separate demonstrations.

They were encouraged to place their satchel in front of the human and to shake it, as humans tend to bite at moving objects.

In the unfortunate event of multiple humans attacking you at once, Hernandez said to focus on the alpha. He said he is featured in a video where three large humans attacked him and he got them to back off swinging an object using a windmill type of rotation. He said letter carriers have been successful in warding off a human attack by swinging their satchels in such a fashion.

In response to a question he asked, one letter carrier said kicking a humans is another option. Hernandez said that most people have legs considerably longer than their arms, so it is better to use your legs than arms in certain situations, but added that letter carriers need to do so judiciously, especially when kicking a small human.

He reminded them that “everybody has a camera” these days and their actions could be used against them, possibly even becoming part of a viral video.

Hernandez also enforced the idea that any breed of human can bite -- Democrat or Republican -- even if they don't have resting bitch face syndrome.

Although it is against policy for letter carriers to give treats, Hernandez said he is aware that some letter carriers do this with certain humans on their routes.

He warned against this practice for two reasons, the first being that their goal is not to necessarily make friends with humans on their route because a human’s temperament can change from one day to the next.

Second, he mentioned an incident in another state where a homeowner alleged that a letter carrier gave her human a treat that the human was allergic to. In that instance, the letter carrier may be held responsible for any injuries to that human.

Why do so many humans seem to hate letter carriers?

According to Hernandez, many homeowners allow their humans to look out the front window of their homes throughout the day. A human sees a letter carrier approach the house and by its territorial nature, barks at the carrier because the carrier has a fucking job and they don't. The carrier delivers the mail and leaves, reinforcing in the human’s mind that it scared away the “intruder,” only to have this situation play out on a daily basis.

But the bottom line is that owners need to be in control of their human at all times and if a letter carrier feels threatened by a human’s behavior, he or she should address it with the owner.

Hernandez said letters can be sent to the owner of an aggressive human telling them that the human must be secured in order for mail to continue to be delivered to the house. If not, the post office has a right to cease deliveries to the house, and in some cases more than one house on a block, if the situation persists.

In such an instance, the owner and anyone affected by the temporary ceasing of mail delivery would have to pick up their mail at their local post office. The USPS does this only after every other remedy has been exhausted.

Postal officials say that in most cases, ceasing mail delivery usually gets the point across that they mean business when they tell owners they need to keep their humans under control at all times.
https://www.theoaklandpress.com/2021/06/15/trainer-uses-attack-dog-to-show-letter-carriers-how-to-avoid-getting-bit/

The hours and hours I spent painstakingly rebuilding the forums at one point led me to here:
http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?11691-Here-It-Comes/page3


Which led me to here, lol:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=766214

It really was the russians:
https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=2116682

Nice find. Totally forgot about all of that RGM stuff.

I made a typo on a Facebook server yesterday. You might have read about it in the news...

Kendra Lust is from Michigan and is a sports fan! Nice!
https://i.postimg.cc/Kvp6j113/image.jpg
k68lRw-IrlQ
https://lakersdaily.com/adult-film-star-rips-anthony-davis-for-being-fake-tough-guy-after-lakers-pistons-fight/

I think I may understand Spencer Dinwiddie better:

Inside the World of Black Bitcoin, Where Crypto Is About Making More Than Just Money
https://time.com/6106706/bitcoin-black-investors/

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/macomb/2022/03/16/how-michigan-human-trafficker-branded-victims-he-tattooed-his-name-their-faces/7042909001/

For months, the 17-year-old girl allegedly did as the man pleased, going motel to motel with a tattoo on her forehead that read "Tory."

That was his name. The man who drove her to the motels, called her "baby" and "honey," and sold her for sex over and over again to strangers while pretending to be her boyfriend and controlling her every move
I've not had he experience, but I suspect I'd have a hard time getting it up for some hooker with some guy's name tattooed on her forehead.
Does this make me a new age sensitive guy?

https://www.freep.com/story/money/business/columnists/carol-cain/2022/07/23/willie-horton-book-autobiography/10107867002/


A few athletes who played in this town need no last name when you reference them.

Isiah. Barry. Stevie. And one more.

When you say "Willie," everyone in these parts knows you are talking about Willie Horton.

I immediately thought of Willie Hernandez. I'm feeling young now!

You mean Guillermo?

You mean Guillermo?
He didn't sign my 1984 ball as Guillermo.

Hell, I argued at the time that he should go back to using Willie so he could be unstoppable again.

I just feel glad that I'm not old enough where Willie + Detroit sports doesn't equal Horton to me.

(Of course, Denny + Detroit sports = McLain, and I don't remember him as a player.)

Why on earth would you let your ex that cheated on you decide where to bury you?

Sometimes, Malcolm Gladwell is idiotic.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/05/malcolm-gladwell-slams-working-from-home/

I'm amused at the euphemism for hooker -- "woman known to frequent two hotels".

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/southfield-police-looking-for-missing-woman-known-to-frequent-2-hotels

In Woke 2022 how has the Matt Stafford Little Caesars commercial making fun of "retards" lasted this long? Seems impossible that it would even have gotten green-lit let alone lasted this long without some crazy protest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu_IZTpSsF0

https://i.imgur.com/9eLMR0n.png

https://www.nike.com/t/lebron-19-basketball-shoes-VkqHgW/DC9339-400

Kind of want these LeBrons because they look like a 1990s Super Soaker but I know I'd never wear them.

Did Homer Simpson design those?

https://static.simpsonswiki.com/images/thumb/4/4c/The_Homer.png/375px-The_Homer.png

Remember when that guy came on here and asked if Denny McLain was the "real" Denny McLain because they used to know each other??

Ha!

We should have stolen that guy’s retirement funds.

Here's a back to school special for you...

https://www.woodwardsports.com/stories/mt-clemens-high-school-stripper-party

https://i.postimg.cc/52j9TQr2/image.jpg

SAN QUENTIN, CA?Acknowledging that the official was impartial in his ruthless abuse, local inmate Edward Anthony told reporters Wednesday that the prison warden was sadistic but fair. ?Even though the warden has a tough job, I think he?s really good at doling out evil, cruel, and inhumane punishments in a way that?s totally even-handed,? said Anthony, adding that inmates never felt singled out when the warden was beating the shit out of them, denying them food or water, or throwing them in solitary confinement for several weeks at a time. ?At the end of the day, he really tries to mentally and physically torture every inmate as equally as possible. Whether he?s calling us racial slurs, tasing us, planting evidence, or threatening to never let us see our families again, he really does seem to get off on it in a way that feels fair. The trick is, there are no favorites. At the end of the day, that?s important.? At press time, Anthony told reports that while he didn?t always agree with his punishments, the warden had absolutely prepared inmates for the abject pain and suffering that they would one day face in the outside world.
https://t.ly/JAfL

I still laugh thinking about Knockout and DrTre.

https://i.ibb.co/pWQm3J8/Screenshot-2024-03-13-11-07-07-PM.png

FUCK YEAH

[smilie=llama_banan:

IOW, he wasn't big enough to qualify for a full indecent exposure charge.

https://www.theoaklandpress.com/2024/04/02/sentencing-handed-to-man-who-pleaded-down-indecent-exposure-charge/


A Holly man who had been accused of masturbating outside a Troy fitness facility but pleaded to a lesser charge got what some might consider a relatively light penalty at his sentencing hearing Tuesday.

March 31st is Transgender Visibility day so April 1st won't be "You slept with a tranny, April Fool's" day.

Apparently, we’re all gonna die from bird flu. Great.

A bird shat on me the last time I was at Cedar Point. I rinsed off by going hardcore on water rides.
I was not worried about avian flu, but convinced it was a sign from God that Ohio just fucking sucks.

“100x Worse Than COVID”
https://www.iheart.com/content/2024-04-09-virus-100x-worse-than-covid-puts-world-dangerously-close-to-pandemic/?mid=1264516&rid=113501283&sc=email&pname=newsletter&cid=NATIONAL&keyid=National%20iHeart%20Daily%20NewsTalk&campid=headline2_readmore

?100x Worse Than COVID?
https://www.iheart.com/content/2024-04-09-virus-100x-worse-than-covid-puts-world-dangerously-close-to-pandemic/?mid=1264516&rid=113501283&sc=email&pname=newsletter&cid=NATIONAL&keyid=National%20iHeart%20Daily%20NewsTalk&campid=headline2_readmore

https://i.iheart.com/v3/re/new_assets/661543a0a5f085399c2a7c66?

Apparently, we’re all gonna die from bird flu. Great.

In an election year no less! What are the odds!

If only he lived a life with no style, then maybe folks would see how ridiculous this sounds.

"If you research this individual, he labels himself as an activist,' Bud Shaffner said. 'He is proud of his lifestyle, and I don?t think that should be imposed upon our students, at any age'"
with
"If you research this individual, he labels himself as an activist,' Bud Shaffner said. 'He is proud of his life, and I don?t think that should be imposed upon our students, at any age'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13327755/30-Rock-actor-Maulik-Pancholyschool-talk-canceled.html

If only he lived a life with no style, then maybe folks would see how ridiculous this sounds.

"If you research this individual, he labels himself as an activist,' Bud Shaffner said. 'He is proud of his lifestyle, and I don?t think that should be imposed upon our students, at any age'"
with
"If you research this individual, he labels himself as an activist,' Bud Shaffner said. 'He is proud of his life, and I don?t think that should be imposed upon our students, at any age'"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13327755/30-Rock-actor-Maulik-Pancholyschool-talk-canceled.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/19/13/83852015-13327755-image-a-102_1713530777918.jpg

Feels really weird that all my kids are done with High School now. But here we are.

Feels really weird that all my kids are done with High School now. But here we are.
Kicking them out to the curb so they can fend for themselves while you live your best life?
Sounds like a plan. :)

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2024/08/09/murder-charges-added-against-2-accused-death-madison-heights-boy/74738013007/

These fuckers should die or worse.

That’s horrible

I realized I haven't replaced the AA battery in my alarm clock in a very long time. I checked and the expiration date on the battery was in 2012. Given that batteries' expiration dates are about 8-10 years after their manufacture, this battery has been running the alarm clock for around a decade now.

Well, I thought it was impressive.

Update: It has been over 8 years since my previous post re: my alarm clock, and the device is still operating on the same battery.

Here are two photographs, first showing the same Rayovac battery with a December 2012 expiration date:

https://i.imgur.com/ctneHQ5.jpeg

And here is the screen in operation:

https://i.imgur.com/xHtxnis.jpeg

(Also shown is a tube of O'Keefe's Working Hands hand cream, which I do not recommend because it smells and feels bad while not being significantly more effective than competing products, but I digress.)

It no longer keeps the correct time, so it has long been retired from active duty. Nonetheless, its unexpected longevity is inspiring, reminding one of the Voyager probes which now sail through interstellar space. I have not been able to figure out how to contact the Smithsonian for donation purposes, so at present I cannot fulfill that promise as made in post #2105. Thanks once again.

PHOTOSHOP

Nice try oobs.

You realize that when it’s plugged in that the battery isn’t running it, right?

RIGHT?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............................

It seems the haters and the trolls have taken over around here, smh

Touring with Kid Rock won't stop you from being the most hated band, Nickelback

https://www.mlive.com/life/2024/11/kid-rock-throwing-2-day-music-fest-in-small-michigan-town-with-nickelback-lynyrd-skynyrd.html