Tayshaun is broken.

So is our rebounding right now

Chauncey and Rip came to play.

Everyone else? Ehhh...

You think Ledezma and Kstat are sitting together?

Tayshaun is broken.

Completely.

God damnit Jesus cannot go off on us again.

AHH, THAT SIG!

We got hosed!

What was the call on that?

I thought replay was only allowed when the game clock was in question? I know it was zero when the shot fell through, but the question was if Stuckey shot before the end of the shot clock not the game clock.

Hopefully those 2 points won't make a big difference in the game.

AHH, THAT SIG!

Is that better?

yes and no.

No because it's smaller and yes because it's still Theo?

Yes, because it's smaller.
No, because it's Theo.

1-4 on 3's. Uh oh

Perking pushes Dice in the back, no foul.

Stupid Hunter.

Jesus fucking Christ put Theo in the game, it's the only way to negate KP43!!!

Wow, how are we going to win now that Perkins may have just found his groove?

Seems like the Celts always have someone open for the jumper if they can get them the ball.

Impressive shot by Max. Still sucks though.

Die Cassell

Stern should ban arm sleeves.

Is it just me or is this game starting to look eerily similar to Game 3?

Sheed needs to turn and shoot quicker on Perkins.

Rip should take all the time he needs.

Ugly basketball.

PUT THEO IN!

Whatta bounce, Yessir!

PUT THEO IN!

B-I-N-G-O

3 on kg

What a douce bag of a possession

That 3 would've been huge.

fuck

Did we need that shot of Chauncey sitting like that? Thank God it's not the 70's.

Powe wouldn't have gotten that if Ratliff was in.

We haven't made these fuckers pay when KG went out with 3 fouls. Can't take advantage of shit.

We are out of sync.

Tayshaun better start stepping up. He's sucking on both ends.

Fuck it, put Theo in at the 3 to guard Pierce.

damn those offensive rebounds

Our rebounding sucks too.

I love my team but these guys look like shit out there.

Prince sucks. I seriously don't know why Ratliff isn't in there right now.

Dear Tay, if we wanted you to brick shots and fuck up on D, Jarvis would have started.

If Dixon and Ratliff aren't on the floor together in the 2nd half, Flip is officially retarded.

Pistons are almost making a Tigers game desirable to watch.

Prince sucks. I seriously don't know why Ratliff isn't in there right now.

Fixed.

You crack me up. You're becoming one of my favorite posters here.

TAHOE, TAKE NOTES.

Are these the final 24 minutes of our season? We'll see...

OMG GUYZ! PRINCE HIT ONE!

Finally!

Fuck you, Sheed.

WTF was that/

Could've had some momentum there without that TO

Damn, sick shot there.

Fucking Pierce takes forever to shoot a FT...

Sheed about to get T'd up

KP43!

You crack me up. You're becoming one of my favorite posters here.

TAHOE, TAKE NOTES.

Am I at least in your 5?

THEO'S IN.

Sheed will get T'd this game, for sure.

Nice D by Theo right there. He was within 20 feet of KG

BANG!

Where was this guy in Game 6 in Miami and Cleveland?

Mr. Big Shot is on fire. Will he be enough?

Sheed will get T'd this game, for sure.

If it stays pressure packed, yes. If we can open up a lead (LMAO) he'll be ok.

I'm not happy with my user name, can you change your name here at WTF?

If you can I want KP43.... I just called it!!

IT'S THE PRINCE!

HOLY SHIT PRINCE HAS A PULSE!!!!!

Some tall dude from Detroit just hit a 3

He had an open look there for a second, but chose to dribble...

We spoke too soon fellas...

THEO

"Ratliff out of control" lmao

I cracked up watching Theo there.

Prince, Dice, and the crowd coming to life...liking where we are (for now).

Plus, we're not -40 with Theo on the floor tonight.

Coincidentally, we always look good when go on a run. :)

We're one Doc tech away from opening this one up.

Oh fuck yeah. 4 pointplay turns into a turnover. HAHA MUTHAFUCKA!!!!!!!

TRAVEL

Hey, for once we get an absolutely rigged call go our way.

Theo was all over that shiiit!

LOL at Cassell

12 more minutes, LET'S GO.

12 more minutes until the right to get STERN'D in game 7. WooHoo!!!

W0rd.

Lol at Cassell.

Lol at Cassell.
Straight to the bench

lol @ seeing Theo on the court in the 4th. Max anyone?

Max? As in Maxiell? As in Jason Maxiell? As in the guy who can't rebound for shit?!? Rudy Ratliff clearly gives us the best chance to close this one out.

Just gave them a 3pt op too.

Jesus Christ Theo, way to foul him after he dunked the damn ball already. He's such a dumbshit!!!

Fuck a Vanessa Ratliff.

So much for Sheed showing up in the 4th

HAHAHA.

"Get that fuckin camera outta my face. *Throws towel*"

lulz

Sheed just said "I can't take it anymore, get that fucking camera out of my face" then threw a towel at the camera. It was loud and clear.

Max coming in... thank goodness.

This lead is way too small.

Ratliffing it up...3 point game.

This is not a good time to go cold.

Maxiell decides to give Theo a run for his money in the "sucking it up" department.

My mistake, I doubted Theo. Get him back in the game.

MAX! At least he can score.

Maxi's defense may suck but the man is bringing it offensively

I swear we were fucking up 10 like 5 minutes ago.

I don't think we'll win if it's a very close game (3 pts or less). But we'll see.

very bad interior defense. Theo sucked it up defensively and then Maxi did as well (though he hit two big shots). Sheed's foul trouble is bad. Someone needs to attack KG.

Fuck Rasheed.

We're done.

They're pulling away...

GAME

They've pulled away.

That's game. What the fuck happened in the 4th quarter?

BTW, Laimbeer is full of shit.

BTW, Laimbeer is full of shit.

????????????

During that stretch where we lost the lead, we just had shit interior defense. First it was Theo Ratliff sucking it up. Then Maxiell came in and couldn't defend for shit. This was masked by two Maxiell jumpers making everybody think he's playing well but it all came down to there. Lack of interior D.

????????????

Boston Wins (Laimbeer is coming for you bitch)

Wow, tough shot.

A rebound woulda been nice.

Wow, I'm so glad this team is done.

Give the ball up Tay.

OHMYFUCKINGGODDAMNITPRINCESHIIIIT

Nice lil titties right there

Good game, see you guys next year.

I'm not watching at all next season if some serious changes aren't made. I'll be damned if I have to sit through another season where we put the same fucking team out on the floor.

We look like a bunch of fools out there.

No sense of urgency.

We build around Stuckey, Max, and Theo. Everyone can GTFO.

I could give a shit about Flip, I want some starters gone.

Personally CBill and Rasheed.

Personally CBill and Rasheed.

If Rasheed isn't gone I'm going to...do something really drastic!

^ shove someone?

Sheed needs to go, for sure.

I fucking hate the Celtics. On our floor too. Man, this one hurts.

James Posey is going to the Finals for the 2nd time in the last 3 years. That's what really makes me want to shove someone!

Man, this one hurts.

This isn't hurting me at all. I'm being honest here. Unlike the previous two Conference Finals, I wasn't expecting the Pistons to win this one, even though I was almost suckered into believing otherwise at times.

What does Boston missing FTs matter when we can't make a shot?

We couldn't hit a 3 if our season depended on it.

This is seriously depressing. I know this group needs to be broken up. But I've been rooting for these guys for 5 years. They used to play with heart and intensity, but now they're a bunch of lazy fucks. What a way to go out...this is not how I wanted to remember them. Fuck.

STFU Marc Jackson. That has been said the last 3 years and it's been a load of bullshit each time.

Too bad Detroit fans are pussies and won't shower the players with boos.

I don't know why I'm not bummed either.

Same ol Pistons

This isn't hurting me at all. I'm being honest here. Unlike the previous two Conference Finals, I wasn't expecting the Pistons to win this one, even though I was almost suckered into believing otherwise at times.

I can understand that. But I hate the Celtics and Boston sports and Boston sports fans and I hate when teams that don't have to pay their dues to get to the finals get there. And I just hate that the NBA gets what it wants. And really there's no one to blame but the Pistons for this IMO. They couldn't hit shots or get big stops when it counted and Boston did. The Pistons had a 10 point lead pretty late in the game and couldn't protect it to save their lives. The Celtics got at least 3 steals just because we were unsure what to do with the ball. Boston totally deserves to win this series. And that's what hurts.

I was worried about the refs all series long, fixing that Boston-LA Finals matchup. I'm glad that was a non-issue, the Pistons lost it all on their own. They just fucking blow.

Well, I predicted 89-80. I was close.

Not sure if it'll be a little comforting if Boston wins the championship. Damn a wasted season.

Boston totally deserves to win this series. And that's what hurts.

:cogent:

I'm a KG fan, so I want the Celtics to beat the Lakers this year (as much as it pains me to say that).

Sheed just said "I can't take it anymore, get that fucking camera out of my face" then threw a towel at the camera. It was loud and clear.
I heard Rasheed used to be an All-Star at one point.

No it would not be comforting. I'd rather see the Celtics get swept. Everyones been all over their dicks all season long and I'm sick of it. Frickin' bandwagoners...

Blow it to smithereens.

Can we get those "goin' fishing" pics now?

first full game ive seen the whole series.

billups came out and lpayed in the first half. he crashed the boards, took good shots. passing was iffy but he got the scoring done.

rip did his normal shit but was outshadowed by billups' performance. rip stays imo. he came out with an injury and played well through it.

tay....could u jst dribble the fucking ball? does the term point forward come to mind? just because cbill and rips all the way up dont mean u cant dribble the fuckign ball. we lost it for sure when posey stole it off him. fuck a posey

dice.

sheed. fuck you rasheed. no longer my favorite piston. bye

stuckey,max, hunter. good effort. stuckey passes too much imo. he can easily take it to the hole but he passes to the low post too often.

ummm someone wanna put a hand in pierces face? do the lpayers not know pierce loves tht spinmove when hes driving? fuck!

when we had in billups/rip/stuckey in the first quarter, they played a zone for a bit and man, the shifting was horrible, led to a ray allen 3.

there will be some changes to the roster fosho

I was worried about the refs all series long, fixing that Boston-LA Finals matchup. I'm glad that was a non-issue, the Pistons lost it all on their own. They just fucking blow.


Blow it to smithereens.

My thoughts exactly. I'm not even mad.

:cogent:

I'm a KG fan, so I want the Celtics to beat the Lakers this year (as much as it pains me to say that).

his jumper is so money. hes a good player, kinda too crazy. id do sheed for kg :) id do the lazy chucker for anyone

I was kind of expecting this result, and all the while I'm telling everyone who's over at my house watching this game on the big screen "take a good look, this is the last time you're going to see this group of 5 guys assembled together ever again," but at the same time it still hurts like a bitch to watch it go down like this. I'm just so sorry for everyone that it had to happen like this.

"take a good look, this is the last time you're going to see this group of 5 guys assembled together ever again," but at the same time it still hurts like a bitch to watch it go down like this. I'm just so sorry for everyone that it had to happen like this.

:cogent:

I don't understand how it cannot hurt, really. These guys represented something different. And, to be honest, I loved the concept. Maybe, at the end of the day, it was too flawed. But I liked what we tried to do and I liked having a team like that, in theory anyway, be the team that wears Detroit jerseys.

2004 was such a great win, a really special championship I felt. I always hated that it was called a fluke. I always hate when people need to pan what is good and special to others, in this case my team's winning a championship. I really hoped the Pistons would have proven everyone wrong.

And mostly, I don't understand how it cannot hurt, because OUR TEAM JUST GOT ELIMINATED IN THE ECF ON OUR HOME COURT. Sure the team may be more dysfunctional than every American home combined. And sure they drive us nuts. But it's not every day you really get a chance to win a championship. It's still our team, the Detroit Pistons, and they got beat.

I was in attendance tonight. Just wow, what a joke. I'm hurt emotionally seeing this season end this way, you invest so much supporting this team, buying season tix, watching every fucking game on TV religiously, yet for the last 3 years, I've gotten NOTHING out of it...



Last 3 playoff games I've attended...tonights debacle, LeBron's "MJ" game, and Horry's phantom 3...

FUCK Me

what's interesting is all 3 of thsoe games, essentially came down to the same thing. Bad defense.

It's time to stop holding onto a championship we won 4 years ago.

It's time to stop holding onto a championship we won 4 years ago.


It's not "holding on" it's wanting another one. (and failing)

The only positive I can get out of this to give me an emotional "pick me up" is that come October, KG, Pierce and Ray still will not have won a championship.

I'm not watching the Finals, you got you wanted Stern, here's to hoping Lakers in 5...

Fuck Boston.

It's not "holding on" it's wanting another one. (and failing)

Come on man, just let it go. ;)

Come on man, just let it go. ;)


At least you got to see the Bad Boys, I have no memory of those...

Well, I'm not going to shit on anybody for being hurt by this loss, but it was pretty easy for me to not to be.

To those who are pissed that we made 6 straight ECFs and have 1 ring, I have this to say...

I'd rather have 1 ring with 6 straight ECFs than do what the Heat did and win a ring then in 2 years make a run at the worst season in history. Really over the last 6 seasons, who (without thinking of literal teams, just the general storyline) would you rather be a fan of?.. The successful team with 1 ring or the shit - ring - shit team with 1 ring?

So, are you an advocate of keeping this team intact?

bye bye sheed. it's been fun.

Goddamn I hate being right all the time...

sigh...



I'm not as depressed as I thought I would be...

What you do, Wil, is take a deep breath and let it go. Works wonders.

What you do, Wil, is you take a deep breath and you let it go. Works wonders.


It's probably because I don't have a girlfriend right now. The last 3 seasons, when we lost I had a GF, so my stress level is down about 50% then it has been the prior 3 yrs...

4 points
2-12 shooting (0-6 from 3)

I'd tell you to guess who, but it's too obvious.

I'm sure Rasheed took KG out for a nice steak dinner after the game, then blew him in the backseat.

So, are you an advocate of keeping this team intact?

I wasn't saying that, just that some people are pissed the team didn't accomplish more and I agree that more could have been accomplished.. but it hasn't been a bad ride either. More directly, the argument than the team has 6 straight ECF appearances with 1 ring is a bad thing but there are much shittier ways to go about winning 1 ring. I'll take the generally successful approach to the one year wonder approch.

Jon Barry: "This is like the Atlanta Braves of the NBA."

I can't remember who it was that made that comparison in this thread.

period. end of story.

I've had enough of his mouth and his inconsistent play. trade him to the bobcats to reunite his ass with larry brown, and see if maybe we can steal away emeka. (wishful thinking)

or maybe a sign and trade with the clippers for elton brand. again, (wishful thinking)

if i were joe d, i would start by getting rid of flip, not that this was all his fault, but clearly the players dont listen nore do they respect him. and then get rid of sheed and or tay prince. (another inconsistent player through out his tenure here in detroit.) prince was exposed in this series. pierce dominated him both ends of the floor, each and every game. can you imagine what kobe would have done to tay?

we played some of our best ball in this series when flip went to the 3 guard line up. rip at the 3 stuckey at the 2 and billups handling the rock.

big changes need to happen in the offseason.

ill def be rooting for boston to bring the trophy back to the eastern conference.

:cogent:

I don't understand how it cannot hurt, really. These guys represented something different. And, to be honest, I loved the concept. Maybe, at the end of the day, it was too flawed. But I liked what we tried to do and I liked having a team like that, in theory anyway, be the team that wears Detroit jerseys.

2004 was such a great win, a really special championship I felt. I always hated that it was called a fluke. I always hate when people need to pan what is good and special to others, in this case my team's winning a championship. I really hoped the Pistons would have proven everyone wrong.

And mostly, I don't understand how it cannot hurt, because OUR TEAM JUST GOT ELIMINATED IN THE ECF ON OUR HOME COURT. Sure the team may be more dysfunctional than every American home combined. And sure they drive us nuts. But it's not every day you really get a chance to win a championship. It's still our team, the Detroit Pistons, and they got beat.

I'll tell you how in two words.

Last year.

It was time to make a change then. The whole season has been about waiting for this series loss. They lost to a terrible team last year, when teams got good this year it was a joke to run the same team out there again.

DetroitSpartan (http://myespn.go.com/DetroitSpartan) (7 hours ago)

Congrats to the Celtics. They earned their trip to the Finals.
If I were Sheed, then I'd be ready to be moved. If any GM wants to give up a 1st Round pick for Sheed then I think Dumars has no choice but to do it. (Dallas or Phoenix? For a 1st Rounder and a 2nd Rounder?)
A lot of the starters are on the wrong side of 30, but still have value on the right team. I wonder if San Antonio would take a Sheed? Probably not, but imagine Duncan and Wallace together with Sheed playing center and dropping three's (since he won't post up on the box or rebound) and letting Duncan and their small forward do the rebounding.
Anyway, the window for this current roster of Pistons is CLOSED. The "light switch" mentality in the softer Eastern Conference won't work anymore. The talent was always there, the killer instinct? Never.
Stuckey, Maxiel, and Prince are a good core for the future. Find a token big man to play center and hope the torch can be passed from Billups to some PG and maybe the 2010 Pistons will be okay.
But this current roster? Something has to happen because they've gotten old and they don't close out games like a real contender would. 2004 was nice, but it's time to move on. Go get 'em Joe D.



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That had better not be $#%@ DrTRE!!

The Pistons played like a bunch of assholes out there.

Mentally weak, low basketball IQ motherfuckers.

I'm down for some changes, Sheed first.

To those who are pissed that we made 6 straight ECFs and have 1 ring, I have this to say...

I'd rather have 1 ring with 6 straight ECFs than do what the Heat did and win a ring then in 2 years make a run at the worst season in history. Really over the last 6 seasons, who (without thinking of literal teams, just the general storyline) would you rather be a fan of?.. The successful team with 1 ring or the shit - ring - shit team with 1 ring?

:cogent:

I'm pissed that our starters can talk all offseason about how they want to get this taste out of their mouth and proceed to do nothing about it. And not just once. Every year since our title.

I'm ready for changes because other teams improved and we won't get much better (Stuckey and Amir should improve, but what good is that when they have limited roles anyway).

I'll tell you how in two words.

Last year.

It was time to make a change then. The whole season has been about waiting for this series loss. They lost to a terrible team last year, when teams got good this year it was a joke to run the same team out there again.
Last year, our big problem was our bench and our lack of a starting PF/C. We theoretically improved somewhat, and that helped during the regular season (more wins, less tired starters). But, that didn't translate into enough. Part of it wasn't our fault. Stuckey and Amir's early injuries were setbacks. Part of that was our shortcomings. Why no Arron Afflalo? Why keep Jarvis around when we knew that he couldn't backup Tay in a playoff setting? We used Herrmann HOW much when we needed good PF defense? About the only bench thing we reallly figured out in mid-season was that if Nazr was the answer, we were asking the wrong fucking question.

Only if you bought the "tired" excuse they trotted out for a second time.

Tre doesn't know shit about the pros so don't worry about it being him.

Also, you know your favorite part of that article is that the dude doesn't consider Stuckey the PG of the future.

Only if you bought the "tired" excuse they trotted out for a second time.
I'm pontificating as much as anything.

If I were asked a year ago what our biggest problem was:

1) Nazr/aging CWebb as a starting C, or
2) a playoff bench consisting of McDyess, Flip, and Crapfino, or
3) a coach who's a doofus at playoff adjustments

I'd have picked "2". If you told a year ago that we'd upgrade our bench as much as we did, with the same core, with Flip making semi-reasonable decisions, but NOT make it past Game 6 ECF, I'd have thought it was crazy.

I don't envy Joe's job here.

That's fair. We all agreed that the regular season went as it could go in terms of player developement, rest, and standings