Playing like retards is a good way to describe the Pistons' performance tonight.

Pistons D is overrated, Cavs > Pistons

Our D left with LB

our 'big 3'- sheed, billups, and rip- are the main reason we're losing this game.

Orlando > Detroit.

fucking hurry!

this pisses me off so bad because we've played like a bunch of retards and we're only down 10. we should be losing by 25. so with even the most minimal amount of common sense this is a game we should be winning.

instead we're throwing up stupid shots, throwing the ball away carelessly, and not moving the ball at all on offense. sheed- WTF are you throwing crap shots like that up for? you're not williamson- you don't need to shoot it every time!

we're not going to have chances to win a game like this too often. this could and should have been a relatively easy win for us but instead it'll be a loss. we had better get our shit together and win this series, because i have no doubt whatsoever that we are better than boston. i'll be super pissed if we don't figure that out and beat them.

we had better win game 2.

When did I hear something like that before? Could it be in another conference finals?

Boston in 5.

There wasn't a single Piston who played well, really. We lost this game in the 3rd quarter with our sloppy play.

Meanwhile, other than Allen (who was horrendous), all the Celtics played well.

i would demand sheed take a sobriety test after the game. he's playing like a drunken idiot out there.

Fuck this game, I want to knock some lights out.

If Billups doesn't play at all, we probably win this game.

It was a bitch move to limp around like he has a broken leg after every mistake he made tonight.

If he wants to feel sorry for himself, tell him he can spend the next game in street clothes. He was badly outperformed by the 2nd and 3rd string PGs.

Yeah, this was definitely "Eastern Conference Final Pistons", in rare form. It was EXACTLY like it. Other team plays stingy D, we commit lots of turnovers, our offense grinds to a halt, Rip dribbling into 3 defenders, pass around and chuck up bad jumpshots. NO defense on their superstar players.

It needs to be said:

Pistons suck against good defensive teams.

Also, I don't care how many jumpers McDyess hits, f him if he keeps leaving KG open for those jump shots. KG is just like sheed except with slightly shorter range.

Spurs-Lakers will be good.

Detroit, fucking play better in Game 2, ok?

time to get rid of CB and Sheed? i'd rather watch Stuckey, Amir...

If Billups doesn't play at all, we probably win this game.

It was a bitch move to limp around like he has a broken leg after every mistake he made tonight.

If he wants to feel sorry for himself, tell him he can spend the next game in street clothes. He was badly outperformed by the 2nd and 3rd string PGs.

You're clinically insane if you think we win this game with Stuckey starting instead of Billups, even though Stuckey outplayed him.

We're DONE if Chauncey isn't healthy. And he wasn't that game.

It's amazing we only lost by 9.

KG is so modest. He knows he beat Sheed's ass up and down the court tonight.

If Billups doesn't play at all, we probably win this game.

I felt the same. I think the team would have done better just accepting they were without Billups and adjusting than this middle of the road shit. The minute I noticed we had him on Allen and Rip on Rondo (that would be the first possession) I felt we had huge problems. That and Chauncey just wasn't ready to play.

A horrible game. But just one game at least. The good news is that now I won't be wasting time in the office reading about the game and will get some work done.

Pistons suck against good defensive teams.



It's their biggest flaw. They aren't good enough offensively to score against great defensive teams (like Boston), and their defense isn't as dominant as it was in 04 and 05.

But a few adjustments and we can still win this series.

what have these guys done the last week? i mean pick and roll with Pierce and KG aint no rocket science, we cant stop pierce from driving so, stay with KG on the perimeter...

Boston is one of my favorite teams anyway, I'm not too mad.

<--Pistons, Celtics, Lakers, and Spurs fan.

what have these guys done the last week? i mean pick and roll with Pierce and KG aint no rocket science, we cant stop pierce from driving so, stay with KG on the perimeter...

They've been busy relaxing and commenting on how "we been here before"

Blow it up...

You're clinically insane if you think we win this game with Stuckey starting instead of Billups, even though Stuckey outplayed him.


We were a better team when Stuckey was on the floor. We were also a better team when Lindsey was on the floor.

In a game that we lose by NINE, Stuckey was a +5 and Hunter was a +8


Billups was a -18, meaning when he was in the game we got blown the fuck out.

Yikes, we might need to wait until after the series is over to say that (if we lose it).

Rasheet is still a fucking tool though.

Goodnight.

^^LOL. I think we can win game 2. Then again, I don't really want to watch the same team again next year.. haha

I guess you can say we were PISSton tonight.

*slaps knee*

If we lose this series in anything less than a fight-to-the-end 7 game series, I don't want to hear anything more about "6 straight ECF" (hint: it's actually a "you're not good enough you're chokers" insult), this group needs to be blown up.

Anger management classes did me good. Last year I almost went on a rampage. I got over this one a few minutes ago.

metr0man, I will second that notion.

stop being bitches. its game 1 on the road and we haven't done well on long rest all year. I agree with any complaints about our shot selection and weak rhythm, but the bashing as if we lost the series is stretching it.

Things to improve for game 2:

Sheed has to play better in the post. just didnt really do what he should have.

Dyess has to defend kg. KG is just fading away anyways, i'd prefer a more physical presence on him.

The defense by all our bigs was bad even against Perkins when he shot it. Got to step it up.


This is a series where we are by far better in the back court. Billups and Hamilton have to be primary options on offense. We did a horrific job of using that to our advantage. Theres no legit excuse by Billups or Flip as to why he only had 4 shots by the 4th quarter with rondo and Ray Allen on him.

Stuckey has to shoot like he's not afraid to miss(Hunter will shoot if you sag on him, stuckey must do the same)

The rotation was horrible. Billups shouldnt sit that long with that much rest and hopefully the "we are better with stuckey" thing will fall to the reality of Boston being a bigger deal than Orlando's garbage pg's.

Things I noticed:
For all his energy Rondo is a foolish idiot, he can and should be abused more often in this series.

Pierce is living off pick and rolls along with ISO's. But he a sloppy dribbler. He also has look bad finishing at the rim. I personally think help defense should look out for the pass more often with his drives.

Eddie House is garbage.

KG will get his all series, i dont care though. Just play him straight up and live with it i say.

The Celts are allowed to foul too damn much in the paint. Outside the paint it was called pretty tight, but inside Joey swallowed his whistled a lil' too much.

The Celts have no legit SG presence on defense. I think the 2 pg rotation can really dig into them if stuckey takes a more assertive role with him and hunter in there.

If we lose this series in anything less than a fight-to-the-end 7 game series, I don't want to hear anything more about "6 straight ECF" (hint: it's actually a "you're not good enough you're chokers" insult), this group needs to be blown up.
Will be a great conversation when we are in legit danger of losing the series maybe. I'm mad about losing everytime we do. But much like the pacers series in our championship year, we are playing a team thats actually good. So gotta look at what we did wrong and try to steal game 2. Until we lose a home game or game 7, i think the panic button can be shut down.

Stuckey shot without too much hesitation tonight, even took a 3 IIRC...

I'm going to meditate on this one.

Actually, nah, fuck that. It's just a basketball game. I'm gonna jerk off all over myself then go to sleep.

Stuckey shot without too much hesitation tonight, even took a 3 IIRC...
Actually he shot that at the end of the shot clock. I personally wasnt satisfied with his shooting aggressiveness at all except on a couple drives. I thought he passed up atleast 4 open shots.

I'm going to meditate on this one.

Actually, nah, fuck that. It's just a basketball game. I'm gonna jerk off all over myself then go to sleep.

Isn't that meditation?

Nah, but it is also a great way to relieve stress.

I thought we played a lil timid tonight. Are we intimidated by these fucks?

I sure as hell hope not.

Nah, but it is also a great way to relieve stress.

Thats a line I always use with the wife.

Me: Are you stressed?

her: yes

Me: Want a lil Dr Tahoe's 2 ball compound?

i'm taking a page out of the rasheed wallace book: "we WILL win game 2. you can put that on the front page, back page, middle page- i don't care. we will NOT lose game 2. i guarantee it.

It was poor shooting. You don't have to look much past 42% to 52% in order to understand what happened.

Anyone else hate Max?

Ummm......

No.

I thought we played a lil timid tonight. Are we intimidated by these fucks?

I sure as hell hope not.

I was kind of thinking the same thing. I mean geez, the flipping Hawks weren't shook by these guys. Although, I guess they did get toasted pretty bad at the "New Garden" everytime.

We are starting to look like the basketball's Atlanta Braves.

http://www.aww-kittah-aww.com/up/files/794/hairisabird.jpg

kg had way too many open jumpers

Things to improve for game 2:

Sheed has to play better in the post. just didnt really do what he should have.

Dyess has to defend kg. KG is just fading away anyways, i'd prefer a more physical presence on him.

The defense by all our bigs was bad even against Perkins when he shot it. Got to step it up.


This is a series where we are by far better in the back court. Billups and Hamilton have to be primary options on offense. We did a horrific job of using that to our advantage. Theres no legit excuse by Billups or Flip as to why he only had 4 shots by the 4th quarter with rondo and Ray Allen on him.

Stuckey has to shoot like he's not afraid to miss(Hunter will shoot if you sag on him, stuckey must do the same)

The rotation was horrible. Billups shouldnt sit that long with that much rest and hopefully the "we are better with stuckey" thing will fall to the reality of Boston being a bigger deal than Orlando's garbage pg's.

Things I noticed:
For all his energy Rondo is a foolish idiot, he can and should be abused more often in this series.

Pierce is living off pick and rolls along with ISO's. But he a sloppy dribbler. He also has look bad finishing at the rim. I personally think help defense should look out for the pass more often with his drives.

Eddie House is garbage.

KG will get his all series, i dont care though. Just play him straight up and live with it i say.

The Celts are allowed to foul too damn much in the paint. Outside the paint it was called pretty tight, but inside Joey swallowed his whistled a lil' too much.

The Celts have no legit SG presence on defense. I think the 2 pg rotation can really dig into them if stuckey takes a more assertive role with him and hunter in there.

I agree with these points. I have watched most of the C's games this season (NBA season pass) and it's funny that KG plays like a fucking pussy against everyone but the Pistons. (fucking tool) It shouldn't concern the Pistons too much though because that keeps Pierce from getting hot like the Cleveland game 7 and if KG is the go-to guy then the Celtics are fucked because KG is a fucking choker in the playoffs esp in the 4th quarter.

Pierce does need to be challenged more when he tries to run the pick and roll. He is notorious for losing the ball in that situation and for some reason teams have stopped pressuring him when he is making his "dribble through 3 players" move.

Where is the Billups iso/post-up of Rondo? They should run that the whole first quarter till Rondo picks up 2 fouls or the C's change their defense to stop it. I expected to see Chauncey stick his big ass into Rondo and destroy him.

I'm not worried but it sucks to watch guys like Rip and Tay dribble up court w/o looking to see if anyone is behind them to swipe the ball. The Celtics live on their defense and the ball should never be held casually. Sheed got his pocket picked while he was fucking around trying to set up (PJ I think) for his mid-range jumper and there's Sheed holding the ball out and not being cognisant of what the fuck was going on around him. That kind of shit is what needs to be cleaned up if the Pistons want to steal one in Boston and they MUST get one in Boston.

I really enjoyed that "wired up" shot of Flip motivating his troops during a timeout.... he sounded like some third rate gym coach during P.E. Contrast to Gregg Popovich during HIS wired up shot, and even an infant could tell the difference between a champion and a journeyman.

In all fairness he's not coaching against a guy on Poppovich's level though.

Doc Rivers wasn't any better. Both those guys sounded like cliche high school coaches. Here's the speech "Rebound, rebound, rebound..." WOW that's fucking ground breaking.

I'm not a Flip hater, though. I just remember telling my wife "What's so special about what these guys are saying?"

We will not lose game 2.

Here's your fucking unity sig.

"They will not win Game 2," "You can quote me on the front page, on the back page, anywhere you want."

Doc Rivers wasn't any better. Both those guys sounded like cliche high school coaches. Here's the speech "Rebound, rebound, rebound..." WOW that's fucking ground breaking.

I'm not a Flip hater, though. I just remember telling my wife "What's so special about what these guys are saying?"


I really enjoyed that "wired up" shot of Flip motivating his troops during a timeout.... he sounded like some third rate gym coach during P.E. Contrast to Gregg Popovich during HIS wired up shot, and even an infant could tell the difference between a champion and a journeyman.

what do you guys want him to say? not trying to be an ass, but isn't that the stuff he's supposed to do? what would you have to hear from flip during that "wired up" segment that would have made you happy?

GARBAGE

WE NEED A VOLCANO

Something a lil more harsh. Whether you agree with harsh coaching is your prerogative but i'm pretty sure something more extreme, demanding, and harsh would have gotten more respect.

Or he could say "I love you guys" at the end of the huddle. That lil bit of love goes a long way.

GARBAGE

WE NEED A VOLCANO
You have no say in unity sigs until you put on your Tony Danzig sig. :P

http://www.mopsquad.com/movies/images/hoosiers.jpg

he DID love those guys

Deep down, you guys know that Flip Murray would have stepped up for Chauncey and led us to victory.

We will not lose game 2.

Here's your fucking unity sig.

How about we use that guarantee he made after game 3 vs Cleveland in 06 instead?

GARBAGE

WE NEED A VOLCANO

I LOL'd for several minutes. Thanks, Glenn.

Deep down, you guys know that Flip Murray would have stepped up for Chauncey and led us to victory.

Deep down I know he would have ran the shot clock out and passed to a slumping Sheed for a last second three.

How about we use that guarantee he made after game 3 vs Cleveland in 06 instead?
If thats the type of response you want from us, then roll with it and get your facetious mojo on.

what do you guys want him to say? not trying to be an ass, but isn't that the stuff he's supposed to do? what would you have to hear from flip during that "wired up" segment that would have made you happy?

I don't want to hear "Okay guys. We're doing good but we need to do better". I want to hear something like "Hey!! I guess Charles Barkley was right about us falling asleep and pretending we've already won. Now get your asses out there and prove the media wrong".

I WANT a volcano. I NEED a volcano.

The only thing that pisses me off about Boston (well not the only thing), but for right now, is when pieces of shit like Leon StinkAss Powe are getting offensive boards and then easy putbacks, I can live with KG doing that, and to a certain extent, I can even tolerate that fat ass Kendrick Perkins doing it every now and then, but when a motherfucker like Leon Powe is getting uncontested o-boards AND buckets, thats when I want to punch somebody/something...

I hope thats addressed tomorrow...Flipper


Aside from that, they did a good job taking away that Posey corner 3 though...

Yea that corner 3 was their biggest weapon. The million pierce pick and rolls they ran was just a decoy.

Yea that corner 3 was their biggest weapon. The million pierce pick and rolls they ran was just a decoy.


You can't just STOP a pick and roll. If it was that easy, Malone & Stockton would've been out of the league their rookie years...


I'll give them a pass for one game. I wouldn't expect that thing to go that smoothly for them tomorrow...

You can't just STOP a pick and roll. If it was that easy, Malone & Stockton would've been out of the league their rookie years...


I'll give them a pass for one game. I wouldn't expect that thing to go that smoothly for them tomorrow...
You still have to defend it. Also Stockon was a far better passer than pierce, so I can't begin to agree with the comparison. You make Pierce chuck up 3 pointers, not penetrate you easier than a ginger celtic groupie whore.

VOLCANO! VOLCANO! VOLCANO!

tz5ij3S4liY

Very nice, Swam. I posted that in the "Currently listening to..." thread yesterday as well.

Also, what do you think it would take to get Ric Flair to show up and sit courtside for Game 3?

You'd have to think that him spontaneously yelling "WHOOOOOOOOOOOO" would throw the Celtics off and really fire Sheed up.

You still have to defend it. Also Stockon was a far better passer than pierce, so I can't begin to agree with the comparison. You make Pierce chuck up 3 pointers, not penetrate you easier than a ginger celtic groupie whore.


True, can't disagree there. But Pierce is a fat ass (easily over 250) and we don't have anybody that can stay with that type of bulk (or girth)...Tay needs to grow a pair and be physical with him...

Volcano idiocy blogging for you.

Detroit Has It Bad Enough
Have you ever gone on a road trip with a guy who would not respect the established rules of the road? You know, a guy so obnoxious that he would sit on your lap in the front seat rather than take his place in the back—even though you called “shotgun.”

Eventually, you wind up moving to the back…not because he is right, but because you know he’s a jackass who won’t give in and it’s not worth it. But now the entire road trip is ruined and there will be no “good hanging” all because the jackass has broken the code.

Well, the NHL and the NBA are on a road trip to Detroit this week, and the NHL is that jackass.

The NBA scheduled Games 3, 4, and 5 of the NBA Eastern Conference finals this Saturday, Monday, and Wednesday at 8:30 p.m. The NHL, knowing the dates the NBA set, scheduled Games 1, 2, and 3 of the Stanley Cup Final on Saturday, Monday and Wednesday at 8 p.m.

Who cares about the overlap? Oh, I don’t know…perhaps the entire city of Detroit?

That’s right, if you live in Motown, but do not live in a sports bar in Motown, you have to choose between watching your Red Wings in the Cup Final and your Pistons facing the rival Celtics.

As if living in Detroit wasn’t a big enough kick in the face. Seriously.

The mayor is sending lurid text messages (“Hell yeah! I want some more.”), the economy is so bad that Michael Moore is just using city surveillance footage for his next movie, and the 313 won’t give Eminem (aka “B-Rabbit”) a break on open-mic nights down at The Shelter.

Now this?

The blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the NHL.

First of all, no matter how big of a hockey fan you are, you have to recognize that in this country, the NHL is still the “lesser league.” It gets worse ratings nationally and it is still rebounding from the 2004 lockout. Why not be the “bigger man” and make the fan-friendly move? Especially in a league that relies so much on regional popularity.

More importantly, this gaffe is on the NHL because it is the league that scheduled last. The NBA had these dates set before the NHL Western Conference finals ended. The NHL knew this, and decided to stick it to Detroit anyway, because, well, they have “rights holders.”

“We have rights holders,” NHL president for media relations Frank Brown told ESPN's Eric Adelson. “CBC has aired ‘Hockey Night in Canada’ on Saturday night for 50 years.”

“If we could have avoided it, we would have,” Bill Daly, the NHL’s deputy commissioner, told the New York Times.

If you could have avoided it? You still can…change the freaking times. You knew about the NBA schedule and you put your games in direct conflict with them. That’s an indefensible decision. At the very least, make the Saturday and Monday (Memorial Day) games—two days most fans have off—afternoon starts.

The NBA called “shotgun” and you are sitting on its lap, waiting for the NBA to give in and get in the back of the car.

Who’s running that league? Gary Bettman?

Wait, he is? Still? Seriously? What the puck are you guys doing up there?

Bettman needs to wise up. He needs to take the bullet for Cheddar Bob and the people of Detroit…and do it quickly. Forget that it’s the right thing to do. Forget that it would be a smart PR move for the league. Forget that it would be an even smarter marketing move. Forget that you would be doing a “solid” to the people of Detroit.

Do it because it’s the right thing to do according to the code. And next time you create a big stink by screwing over your fans, you better crack a window.




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As if living in Detroit wasn’t a big enough kick in the face. Seriously.

I laughed.

That's super sucky, the NHL is a fucktard. Glad I just got DVR. Pistons take priority of course.

AHHHHH!!!

Now we can all enjoy the Pistons' 2nd half collapse together...

Fuck... Last thing we need is Allen to get going...

Nice 3s but we need easy points now, because living on 3s are fools gold. Nice job drawing fouls by C-Bill.

If Sheed is gonna score he better start now, otherwise he will be the anti-clutch Sheed in the 4th.

Wow Dice with no mask after the half. That's ballsy. Man wants to win, 6, 7, 8 other guys need to realize that.

Theo needs to be yanked, he's been ass on every play. Theo comes in and commits two fouls, Theo knocks the ball out of bounds, Theo commits another foul, Theo is late on defense and Ray dunks it. Yank him and let Maxiell play or something.

Stuckey = the awesome.

RODNEY "RODNEY STUCKEY" STUCKEY

F'IN RATLIFF IS STILL IN AND LEAVING PJ OPEN

OMG i'm losing my mind, why was he still in after that timeout??? ...

I will place sole blame on this loss for Theo Ratliff. Leaving PJ Brown open on the baseline is suicide, done it twice down the stretch, and he's useless on offense. Having experience is one thing, having useless experience is another. Hunter is the first, Ratliff is the second.

Oh, glad to see we're all bitching about the same thing. We've played too well to lose this because of Theo "Where Am I" Ratliff.

I can buy giving him a chance but after like 4 f-ups in a row, there was a timeout and he was still in... it's almost like Flip thought the good play was Stuckey+Theo combination and not just Stuckey, and thought he had to keep em both in together. the lead collapsing can be traced to that one 2 minute stretch between timeouts......

Well, at least the Pistons haven't forgotten how to close games.

Great game btw. Has felt more like a Game 7.

Garnett is making shots in the 4th, I guess he really wants this one bad.

The Rolling Stones got Mick Jagger, these Stones got Rick Dagger.

HOLY SHIT!

Rondo, Perkins, the other non big 3 fool, they haven't done squat, we've D'd those jobbers up good. the ole "superstar scores and we shut down everyone else" game. As long as we can keep Ray Allen grounded, thats a good strategy.

Good thing I wore my Billups jersey tonight.

That was awesome!

Huge pressure on boston for game 3.

Pistons set a record for most consecutive game 2 wins btw.

Beat ya to it, K!

What a great game!! There's not much else to say.

Wow, that was a great game. Not just because we won, that was just great NBA basketball. Thank you, Pistons for giving a great effort.

nice gutcheck win.

Fucks yeah. That was just a good game, particularly the 4th quarter, regardless of who you root for but simply as a basketball fan. Better cuz the Stones won of course, but a good game regardless.

Wow, that was a great game. Not just because we won

Oh, I was just saying that because we were about to win. :p

Where the fuck would be without Rip?

^^Good point.

The site was down for me, or I got banned, so I went to the other site.

so y'all aren't going to get my great insight.

Flip Saunders is having his redemption series. He's completely frustrated Doc Rivers so far.

It came back around halftime, Tahoe.

JB giving mad props to Rodney "Rodney Stuckey" Stuckey.

Solid roation by Flip, Doc rivers lack of quality guards is killing the celts.

I just call him Rodney Stuckey.

Yeah, Stuckey is a good enough name in itself.

GLEN(N) DAVIS KNOWS HIM AS HIS LORD.

Flip Saunders is having his redemption series. He's completely frustrated Doc Rivers so far.

We might just be exposing these guys as the posers they are.

Damn... I want to beat these bitches real bad.

The Stuckster

PP and KG on NBATV right now.

^^Gayer than Stuckeybuns.

Ya, KG is acting like it's the end of the world.

PP and KG on NBATV right now.

Don't get ESPN?

Stuckey getting tons of love.


Joe Dumars is giving himself a high-five (since Hammond can no longer do so)

Guys...its not a funeral

Don't get ESPN?

NBATV runs the whole thing. ESPN usually cuts out...don't they?

Stuck is great, he's exactly what this team needs, a guard who is actually GOOD at penetrating and getting to the hole. Even game 1 we had good flow with him in there (CBill was ass in game 1). Now Billups came to play so its fine, but Stuck is the real deal.

btw Pierce just sorta put STuck down by saying "different people are gonna step up for big games, it's not a concern for us" (talking about Stuck). You betta recognize Paul, Stuck's been playing well for a lil while now, even with a bad FG percentage. He better get consistent minutes.

The best thing was the clutch rebounds by Rip and Dice. So often we seem to not give a crap about rebounding, so its nice to see them hustle for them when it counted.

Yes, only a matter of time until it's Rodney "Auto Whistle" Stuckey.

NBATV runs the whole thing. ESPN usually cuts out...don't they?

Yeah, they cut out on Rip and Stuck.

NBATV runs the whole thing. ESPN usually cuts out...don't they?

Why would you want to watch the whole thing?

ARE YOU FROM BOSTON?

Rodney "Fuck a Big Baby" Stuckey.

The Flipper is on!

Why would you want to watch the whole thing?

ARE YOU FROM BOSTON?

Cuz I love watching when another team has such utter misery after we beat them.

Break out the tissues boys.

Wow, that game stressed me out. I can't wait for game 3.

My guess is that Boston will blow a gasket if they lose the next two in Detroit.

The Flipper is on!

Friggin TIVO.

Caught up now.

My only concern is, are we gonna be able to shut down all the jobber role players for 3 more games? I hope so. if Ray allen gets hot, we could be in trouble.

Guys...its not a funeral
Don't tell the Celtics that. Let's get in their fucking heads!

We can't be looking ahead like that, we need to take care of business in Game 3. Not saying it won't happen, but I hope these guys don't think just because they are going home that it's an automatic win.

My only concern is, are we gonna be able to shut down all the jobber role players for 3 more games? I hope so. if Ray allen gets hot, we could be in trouble.

Ray was hot tonight, he scored 25... I don't see him getting too many more than that on a given night. The way I look at it, the way Pierce and Garnett have been shooting, he's just taking points away from those two and it balances out a little bit. Not saying let the stars get theirs, who cares how many they score, etc. because they have three of them, but I don't think they're going to make everything if you catch my drift. Now what we need is a game where we can shut 2 of the 3 down, then we'll see what's up.

Don't tell the Celtics that. Let's get in their fucking heads!

Exspecially KGs head. And it seems like he's a lil heady at times. Gets down on himself type thing.

Agreed. Let's really pour it on to begin game 2 then they'll be questioning themselves.

Ray was hot tonight, he scored 25... I don't see him getting too many more than that on a given night. The way I look at it, the way Pierce and Garnett have been shooting, he's just taking points away from those two and it balances out a little bit. Not saying let the stars get theirs, who cares how many they score, etc. because they have three of them, but I don't think they're going to make everything if you catch my drift. Now what we need is a game where we can shut 2 of the 3 down, then we'll see what's up.

But I bet he scored a ton of those in 2nd half. He's coming out of his slump.

But we won.

Doc talking about his bench, or lack thereof. We have to take advantage of our great bench.

Where was Maxiell tonight?

But we won.

Oh yea. But I was kind of agreeing with Metro that if RA gets hot, or stays hot imo, this thing could get a lil tighter.

God damnit, that piss on my screen again.... How did it get there?

Also: Doc talking about his D and that we made some tough shots and shit... But the Celts made a ton of tough, well defended shots in the first half. I don't see them shooting better than that if we can keep up the tough defense.

Oh yea. But I was kind of agreeing with Metro that if RA gets hot, or stays hot imo, this thing could get a lil tighter.

Yeah. I suppose so. Let's get him into foul trouble again, lol.

When KG hoisted that three, I immediately thought of the TD play. KG is just not as clutch, fortunately for us.

Glad to see Stuckey getting the love that's due, here and on ESPN. What an incredible job.

Where was Maxiell tonight? I know he was in, but I don't recall ever seeing him.

Unconfirmed, but I guess theres a child care across the street.

Well that sucks. Good thing we're going home...

When KG hoisted that three, I immediately thought of the TD play. KG is just not as clutch, fortunately for us.

Glad to see Stuckey getting the love that's due, here and on ESPN. What an incredible job.

So its the final shot of the game and you can either put KG or Rasheed taking the last shot...

KG?
RW?

I go with RW and he doesn't sink em late.

Rodney Stuckey.

I'd go with Sheed too, but that's because he's better at threes.

If they are closely guarded, then I change my vote.

Thats what I thought too Doc. RW at the 3pt line.

Credit to Dyess also for fighting KG on every play he covered him. Every shot was tough. Best you can do.

^^Yup.

Also, can we please play more Maxey and less Ratliff?

I'll live with Garnett, Pierce, and even Allen making tough shots as long as we are playing as well as we possibly can on defense, which we did tonight.

Theo made some dumb decisions out there. I'm kinda wanting maxiell and amir out there . Also in a game about defense, hayes shouldnt be on the active roster.

I'll live with Garnett, Pierce, and even Allen making tough shots as long as we are playing as well as we possibly can on defense, which we did tonight.
Exactly.

If Theo could still block shots, I'd be game, but he's just not what he once was. It's either a foul or he can't jump high enough anymore...

The likelihood of Amir is a solid idea, but I doubt it unless Maxey sucks as well as Theo and we're down 10 or something and Sheed and Dyess are in foul trouble...

I'm worried about box outs, i think theo did better than maxiell at it, but still made dumb decisions.

yep. in reality you could say all that work had an effect on kg's 3 pointer at the end. Either way in a 7 game series it'll wear him down.

Yeah, SDB I see you deleted your post, but that move and bank finish by Garnett was incredible. Dyess played the best D he could.

Rasheed blocked KG, iirc. Got give RW some love for D on KG here and there.

SDB deleting posts? the shame!

sometimes I read the posts and don't think they make sense, so I delete them.

but yeah, Dice played him as well as he could on that shot.

Defensive rebounding is definitely a concern, despite the win. We let guys like Davis and Perkins get offensive rebounds that they had no business getting. Allen got a couple, too, when we had three guys standing around in the paint, but nobody bothered to put a body on him. That's frustrating to me. It got better in the second half, but we need to do better on the boards in general. I can live with KG getting boards, but not so much the aforementioned guys. That's not acceptable.

Rasheed blocked KG, iirc. Got give RW some love for D on KG here and there.
but overall its not idea for him to be on kg mostly. He just seems not to grind as hard against him. Dyess doesnt like kg personally and it shows in how he gets at him really really hard.

Pierce also made some really tough shots.

Anyone else see John Barry after the game? I'm 99.9% sure he wants to have sex with Rodney Stuckey.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the analysts haven't watched many Pistons games this year. They were surprised we were isolating Stuck. There have been many times this year when we've iso'ed Stuck, most recently being the Orlando series. I would love to get paid to pretend to watch basketball like them.

Agree GG. Just spot D here and there, but he stepped up. And remember Sheed had 2 fouls early in 2nd??? He knows how to play with fouls.

And 1 T too.

Anyone else see John Barry after the game? I'm 99.9% sure he wants to have sex with Rodney Stuckey.

By the way, I'm pretty sure the analysts haven't watched many Pistons games this year. They were surprised we were isolating Stuck. There have been many times this year when we've iso'ed Stuck, most recently being the Orlando series. I would love to get paid to pretend to watch basketball like them.

So he joins the rest of us.

it's funny how I wanted to avoid ESPN after the Pistons lost game 1, so I wouldn't have to hear the "analysts", but want nothing but nonstop coverage of game 2.

So he joins the rest of us.
the guy on nba tv is about to burst a hot one talking about stuckey, almost called him a hall of famer. yikes!

Hall of Fame? HALL OF FAME?? for Rodney Stuckey?

Kstat is the one who's supposed to be declaring players as future Hall of Famers!

and I don't mean that as a knock...there is no doubt in my mind that Rodney Stuckey will go down in history as the greatest player to ever play.

Just to shoot my load into the Stuckey circle jerk...

The thing that makes him so impressive to me is that he defied the stereotype of rookies and role players and got it done under pressure on the road. A rookie with that kind of mental toughness is going to have a great future.

I'm never scared

I've noticed that Rodney Stuckey and Chuck Norris have never been seen together.

Rodney Stuckey can make a Chuck Norris joke funny.

Well I guess Chuck Norris's cover is blown.

Max Stuckey Pick and Roll , I await my millions of dollars to coach a professional team.

PS, Flip is still a moron, and we are lucky as shit to have pulled this game off. What was the hold up on calling time outs when we had matchup problems with our bench?

I gotta sleep.

Rodney Stuckey does not sleep, he waits.

the guy on nba tv is about to burst a hot one talking about stuckey, almost called him a hall of famer. yikes!

Saw that. Who is that with him? Billy King. Whomever it is, settled him down a lil bit.

Max Stuckey Pick and Roll , I await my millions of dollars to coach a professional team.

PS, Flip is still a moron, and we are lucky as shit to have pulled this game off. What was the hold up on calling time outs when we had matchup problems with our bench?
Maxiell wasnt boxing out well Bubs. I think you're not being honest to Maxiell not playing as well as he should have.

As far as Flip being a moron. Can't believe i'm saying this, but i think he did alright. :VOLCANO:

Maxiel only played 3 mins or something.

Pierce really bashed our bench low key, said no guy outside of stuckey did anything as if it were a fluke on stuckey's part. I know the bench plays better at home, i hope they dominate the celts.

Because he wasn't playing well.

If you say one negative thing about Flip Saunders tonight, you're an idiot. It needs to be said.

[quote=Codename V]Maxiell wasnt boxing out well Bubs. I think you're not being honest to Maxiell not playing as well as he should have.
Yeah, glad Theo was out there to bring his box outs, defense, and intimidating offense to complicate Bostons foul trouble.



And with all my whining about the refs, finally a game where they called Bostons hacking. AN EVEN GAME of basketball, shitty refs for everyone.

[smilie=stern_sig.g:

K, GG, BTL

What'd you think of the Stuckey, LH, Rip lineup?

Because he wasn't playing well.

If you say one negative thing about Flip Saunders tonight, you're an idiot. It needs to be said.

I didn't think his shoes went well with his suit. :)

Yeah, glad Theo was out there to bring his box outs, defense, and intimidating offense to complicate Bostons foul trouble.
no need to be over facetious. All i'm saying is maxiell did nothing to offset the fact that he wasn't doing well on the boards. He just didn't play well. I expect him to play better at home though.

K, GG, BTL

What'd you think of the Stuckey, LH, Rip lineup?
Its legit in this series because boston has no real SG's after Allen and even he doesnt provide many issues to our pg's outside of shooting 3's off of screens.

http://fiyastarter.com/fs-gfx/fs-stuckey.GIF

Because he wasn't playing well.

If you say one negative thing about Flip Saunders tonight, you're an idiot. It needs to be said.
Not exactly true. Flip did plenty right today and so should be praised (particularly getting Chauncey the hell off Ray Allen as Chauncey is dying out there defensively). But there is no question that Ratliff was in the game too long in the 4th. After the Stuckey explosion and the mandatory time out Ratliff was left in and directly contributed to losing four points of the lead. PJ Brown hits a baseline jumper with Ratliff spinning in a circle looking for his man (PJ Brown) then on offense Rip is stuck on the left side of the court with Ratliff and Theo can do nothing to help the guy out offensively while his man hedges off of him and doubles Rip. On the next Celtic possession I believe Ratliff commits a foul and Flip finally gets him off the court (but I'm haizy on this one). Ratliff did fine overall and Flip was good as well, but its not like it was a mistake free game.

BTW, FUCK YES!

I still can't believe that Rip runner. He had 5 defenders on him when you really watch that play.

and then how KG leaves the paint to go up top on that out of bounds play where CBill gets the bunny.

A team can get exposed when they play a really good team.

Wilbond on Boston...

The real discouraging thing for Boston is on a night when your big 3 score 75 pts at home, you played well, you shoot 56% in the 2nd half...you didn't throw a clunker out there and you lose. And now you haven't won a road game. And on and on...

Just thought I'd type that while he was saying it.

Not exactly true. Flip did plenty right today and so should be praised (particularly getting Chauncey the hell off Ray Allen as Chauncey is dying out there defensively). But there is no question that Ratliff was in the game too long in the 4th. After the Stuckey explosion and the mandatory time out Ratliff was left in and directly contributed to losing four points of the lead. PJ Brown hits a baseline jumper with Ratliff spinning in a circle looking for his man (PJ Brown) then on offense Rip is stuck on the left side of the court with Ratliff and Theo can do nothing to help the guy out offensively while his man hedges off of him and doubles Rip. On the next Celtic possession I believe Ratliff commits a foul and Flip finally gets him off the court (but I'm haizy on this one). Ratliff did fine overall and Flip was good as well, but its not like it was a mistake free game.
:cogent: :VOLCANO:

Heroes all around for Detroit

They did it as a team, and as young and old. Old? How about Antonio McDyess? After the first five minutes — in which the Pistons looked pretty bad — he ripped that plastic mask off, and it was as if he removed leg shackles, gravity and the aging process as well. McDyess, 33, was moving like mad, defending Garnett with arms, thighs, torso and quick footwork. He was shifting around on offense, hitting the Pistons’ first jump shot, hitting a fadeaway, rolling off the defense for a lay-up, taking a give-and-go from Rodney Stuckey for a three-point play. He hit huge jumpers down the fourth-quarter stretch, standing tall against Boston’s crashing waves. He finished with 15 points, eight rebounds and two steals.

Sometimes people forget that McDyess has all the motivation of the Celtics combined. He is the lone Pistons starter without a ring. He comes to work every day wondering why he couldn’t have joined this team one year earlier, when they took the crown. Garnett and Paul Pierce may never have seen the NBA Finals, but McDyess has seen them, seen the end of the rainbow, and watched another team slide down it.

Which is worse?

And the walls come crumbling down

And then, the kid. Rodney Stuckey is only 22, and he’s getting better game by game. He had some nerveless moments in Game 1. And he grew up more in Game 2. He made passes. Smart assists. He hit pull-up jumpers. And he did what every Detroit fan has been screaming about for days — he drove the hoop. He finished with 13 point in 14 minutes, with three assists. He is promise being realized.

And so are the Pistons. This was a very tough game to win, folks. In Boston, you feel like you’re playing team, legend, fans and karma. But The Pistons had a few things historically going for them Thursday. They had won eight straight Game 2’s in the playoffs. They hadn’t lost two in a row this postseason.

And they are not afraid of the road.

This, if the Pistons ultimately go on to win the title, will likely be the reason why. On Thursday, McDyess forgot that he was old, Stuckey forgot that he was young, and Detroit forgot that playoff teams don’t win in Boston.

Beat the House. Now all that remains is who gets to four wins first. And that is what should determine a title. Not a building.

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yikes, espn slowly falling in love with Stuckey. Just called him, Rip, and cbill the pistons big 3.

Pierce also made some really tough shots.
His turnaround was automatic from 22 feet out - it was awesome to watch.
No matter how good Prince's D was on him, Pierce would just launch it over the top of him.

You gotta love Van Gundy as a commentator - he is just hilarious. Abusing whoever said Stuckey was the next Wade, but then 2 quarters later jumping right back on the bandwagon. The way he did it though was class, not even bothering to hide how wrong he was ;)

Stuckey ftw!

I had no clue Dyess played without the mask. Is that right?

Allen, Pierce, and Garnett were freaking unconsciously good tonight. I was hating life with some of the shots they made.

I had no clue Dyess played without the mask. Is that right?
Yep, ripped it off and went the rest w/o it. Glad he got hype, but i'm worried if someone with cheap shot history like posey purposely swings for his nose.

I need some stuckey jerseys on ebay...

Adding volcano avatar for good luck. It seems to have made all the difference for Glenn.

What an amazing game. Flip did well for the most part. By no means a mistake free game from him though. Theo was pretty bad out there most of the time. I was also a little Shaky on Lindsey. Not sure why Flip put him on Pierce to end the half when we're in the penalty. That matchup in that situation is a foul 95% of the time. Pierce is too strong, and Lindsey is over-aggressive. I also didn't like it when Lindsey started trying to play keep-away from Rodney after he got it going in the 4th. Rodney had hit something like 3-4 shots in a row, he was calling for the ball, and Lindsey stood at the top of the key, pounding the ball into the floor wasting away possessions which allowed Boston to get back into it. I think they went away from what was working a bit too quick.

Gotta hand it to the "Big 6" for all coming up big in big situations.

yikes, espn slowly falling in love with Stuckey. Just called him, Rip, and cbill the pistons big 3.
If you add a couple jump-shooting starting big men (one with a mid-range jumper, the other with 3P range) a defensive small forward, a 59-win season, and some key defensive role players off the bench, it starts sounding like the 1990 Pistons (minus the rebounding).

I think Flip did a very good job yesterday. I agree with just about everything you guys say about his mistakes but I think he's improved big time so far compared to last years ECF. He's being active (or pro-active to use business-like clichés) in his coaching. He's using the bench, not just on some set-up rotation but really using the bench situationally as well to find and exploit mismatches.

I have no idea what you call that Rip, Stuckey, Hunter lineup; is it a three guard set, going small or just having Rip play the three to spell Tay (because we do have two guards we trust off the bench and no three since, well, Jarvis sucks) and I'll let Kstat be the expert on that; but it seems to work.

It's just nice to see him looking for adjustments instead of watching him on the sidelines biting his lip with his dick in his hand praying his starters figure it out.

An interesting note for me (probably not so much for you guys): I watched the game on cable here and after listening to the announcers here do a masterful Celtic ball washing for the first few minutes I decided to just mute the damn TV. Once we got back into it, and since I'm one of those stupid superstitious fans (maybe I should make the Volcano my sig too) I decided I was keeping it muted the whole game. It was interesting as hell. I didn't lose anything watching it and I feel I noticed so much more. There was one moment they put this close up on Chauncey and I could see him saying "I got House" and then they cut to Rip (almost movie like) and he says, "All right, I got Pierce then." There were a few times I could see the Pistons call their assignments. Stupid details like that. Like the final timeout they had to call when Tay had trouble inbounding. First they cut to Boston's huddle and you see Rivers talking mostly with maybe one player saying something. Then they cut to the Pistons huddle and it was entirely different. You had Flip talking to Chauncey and Rip while Tay and Sheed were talking to each other, not ignoring Flip it seemed just using the moment to go over something themselves. Then Flip joins the Tay and Sheed conversation, the three agree on something (at least it seemed they all nodded at something) and then Flip finished his talk with Chauncey and Rip. It just seemed such a contrast, on the one side you had a coach trying to explain something to everyone and on the other side you had a plan set up by committee with all the separate parts contributing to the plan and getting on the same page. It seemed like the perfect example to how Joe D wanted this team to be.

An interesting note for me (probably not so much for you guys): I watched the game on cable here and after listening to the announcers here do a masterful Celtic ball washing for the first few minutes I decided to just mute the damn TV. Once we got back into it, and since I'm one of those stupid superstitious fans (maybe I should make the Volcano my sig too) I decided I was keeping it muted the whole game. It was interesting as hell. I didn't lose anything watching it and I feel I noticed so much more.
I do that fairly frequently, especially with crappy ABC/ESPN coverage. Often, I'll have the WDFN 1130 radio broadcast on while watching the game. As long as there isn't TOO much lag between radio and TV (a few seconds is ok, 30+ seconds is distracting), it works out. Sometimes I will just watch it silently, which works for me too. You start seeing the little things.


Like the final timeout they had to call when Tay had trouble inbounding. First they cut to Boston's huddle and you see Rivers talking mostly with maybe one player saying something. Then they cut to the Pistons huddle and it was entirely different. You had Flip talking to Chauncey and Rip while Tay and Sheed were talking to each other, not ignoring Flip it seemed just using the moment to go over something themselves. Then Flip joins the Tay and Sheed conversation, the three agree on something (at least it seemed they all nodded at something) and then Flip finished his talk with Chauncey and Rip. It just seemed such a contrast, on the one side you had a coach trying to explain something to everyone and on the other side you had a plan set up by committee with all the separate parts contributing to the plan and getting on the same page. It seemed like the perfect example to how Joe D wanted this team to be.
I was wondering if that was the plan all along, to burn the timeout in hopes of getting a better sense of what the Celtics wanted to do.

That they would use the last timeout like that never occurred to me, but makes so much sense now that you mention it. It was the perfect time to take advantage of it.

I've had the same experience with the radio thing as well since I wanted Detroit announcers instead of Spanish ones. But the lag time for streaming was just too much and I got sick of having to pay for the League Pass, something I had felt should be free anyway.

I was also a little Shaky on Lindsey. Not sure why Flip put him on Pierce to end the half when we're in the penalty. That matchup in that situation is a foul 95% of the time. Pierce is too strong, and Lindsey is over-aggressive. I also didn't like it when Lindsey started trying to play keep-away from Rodney after he got it going in the 4th. Rodney had hit something like 3-4 shots in a row, he was calling for the ball, and Lindsey stood at the top of the key, pounding the ball into the floor wasting away possessions which allowed Boston to get back into it. I think they went away from what was working a bit too quick.

I'm sorry but I thought Hunter was very important to this win. And when he played on pierce he played him well and almost came away with the steal on the shitty dribbler Pierce(Lebron ripped him so many times it was ridiculous). I'm very pleased with Hunter and hope to see him in the rotation still defensively. I do think we probably went to theo too much, but maxiell didnt do much either.

wasn't able to get on here during the game......

great great game by us. i have almost no issues with how we played or coached. we were still a bit sloppy and can clean some things up.

at one time or another, billups, rip, sheed, dice, and even tay were huge for us. but obviously i have to heap tons of praise on stuckey. i continue to be amazed and excited by this kid.

so much for him not being able to be trusted on the road. in the ECF this kid stepped up on the road in a hostile environment, in a HUGE game and played like a 10 years vet.

he was unbelievable last night and he really grew up, bigtime. we now have the best 3 guard rotation in the nba IMO and he compliments rip and chauncey so well. he can do things they can't do and he gives us a dimension we SO badly need.

now we need to go home and protect homecourt- no playing around, let's stretch this series into a 3-1 lead and focus on the task at hand. game 3 should be all we focus on first and we need to play with the same intensity and sense of urgency as we did in game 2.

BTW- i'm thinking we will have to move rip over to guard allen and put billups back on rondo, as we don't want allen opening things up for them and going crazy.

in any case, i feel very confident going against this team. we're still in a serious fight and they're not going to roll over. but i'm more than confident we can and will defeat this team.

If you add a couple jump-shooting starting big men (one with a mid-range jumper, the other with 3P range) a defensive small forward, a 59-win season, and some key defensive role players off the bench, it starts sounding like the 1990 Pistons (minus the rebounding).
I hate comparisons, but we are definitely looking special so far.


Everyone needs to be cautious to a desperate celtics squad going hard at us the next 2 games. win these two games and give us alot of great options in trying to win this series.

But first thing is first Game 3 is very very big. Celts will make adjustments and we'll have to be ready.

I think the Celtics' biggest problem right now is coaching. Doc has no idea what to do outside of the "big 3." It seems like he understands what KG and Pierce can give him, and mostly what Ray Allen can give him. However, I think he puts far too little stock in players that could deliver for him, and far too much stock in players that have glaring deficiencies that turn into foul liabilities. Big Baby is almost embarrassing in that department.

big baby thing isnt his fault. We tricked him into thinking he was a beast against us during the season.

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Like Bonecrusher I'm Never Scared

That is still the worst song of all time. Right up there next to The Cha Cha Slide.

That is still the worst song of all time. Right up there next to The Cha Cha Slide.
I dont know, theres by far worse songs out there. Its the only song about never being scared, so live with it like Hoff living with his drinking problem. :P

:VOLCANO: VOLCANO :VOLCANO:

oh wurd stuckey, getting the #1top play

i have this strange gut feeling, bostons gonna take one in detroit..shoot me right now.

oh wurd stuckey, getting the #1top play

i have this strange gut feeling, bostons gonna take one in the ass at detroit..shoot me right now.

:cogent:

I think the Celtics' biggest problem right now is coaching. Doc has no idea what to do outside of the "big 3." It seems like he understands what KG and Pierce can give him, and mostly what Ray Allen can give him. However, I think he puts far too little stock in players that could deliver for him, and far too much stock in players that have glaring deficiencies that turn into foul liabilities. Big Baby is almost embarrassing in that department.
I don't think he does understand what KG can give him. All I saw last night were open jump shots. He doesn't design anything to get KG looks. He basically uses KG in his offense like Carlisle used Prince (if he's wide open pass it to him, otherwise let him stand there and wait). If Dyess got the touches KG does he'd be putting up just as good numbers. Doc doesn't know what he's doing at all (which is why I picked Lebron to upset him last round).

I don't think he does understand what KG can give him. All I saw last night were open jump shots.
And contested ones, that he knocked down at will.

He doesn't design anything to get KG looks.
If he plays like he played last night, he doesn't need them.

He basically uses KG in his offense like Carlisle used Prince (if he's wide open pass it to him, otherwise let him stand there and wait).
Doc's got a lot of options. KG is the best one, but it's just one of them.

If Dyess got the touches KG does he'd be putting up just as good numbers.
Leaving aside for a moment the fact that this kind of contradicts your theory of KG not being used correctly...I can't just let this one go by. Wow, really? Antonio McDyess could be every bit the player that Kevin Garnett is, and the only difference is that the Boston offense is better coached? Really? Really?

Doc doesn't know what he's doing at all (which is why I picked Lebron to upset him last round).
Aaaaand that's all the time we have.

Leaving aside for a moment the fact that this kind of contradicts your theory of KG not being used correctly...I can't just let this one go by. Wow, really? Antonio McDyess could be every bit the player that Kevin Garnett is, and the only difference is that the Boston offense is better coached? Really? Really?


I never said Dyess was as good. I said given the same amount of shots KG got Dyess could score just as much. That is because KG is not being utilized right now. In game 1 he posted up, ran pick and rolls and took people off the dribble. In game two he took jumpers most of the game. Part of that is better defense, but a big part of that is Doc. My contention is that Dyess can hit those same jumpers. KG has the ability to take people off the dribble and post up (things Dyess cannot do). He didn't do much of that last night at all.

that game took me back to the old Pistons/Pacers battles. that was one hell of a game.

if you didn't watch the game, and just saw each team's stats, you'd think we were toast. but, to come away with a win? that was un-freaking-real.

I look at game two as proof that the Pistons can beat anyone if they bring intensity the entire game (and limit their turnovers). Boston played really well, especially the big 3. The only question is whether they will continue with energy and defense like the 2004 and 2005 editions or fall back on their "superior talent and experience" to win like the 2006 and 2007 editions.

Speaking of Pistons turnovers, more and more I am realizing why Rip has become the one of the best catch and shooters in the league. It's because he needs a way to score without having to dribble. Wasn't he ever taught not to dribble chest high in traffic? TERRIBLE BALL-HANDLER! The ESPN commentators were driving me crazy with the ...Ray Allen isn't shooting well, but he can still play defense... For the love of God! Rip bounced the ball off of his leg twice, Allen never touched it!

I'd be demorolized if I was one of the big 3. 75 points for them and they got 8 points from their bench.

Blow it up...

Money in the bank.

We didn't have the 'deer in the headlights' look last night.

The MO is definately on our side.

you're just realising that? yeah rip can't handle the rock to save his life.

that is part of why we needed a guy like stuckey, who can create off the dribble. there are times when rip goes through scoring droughts and it costs the team a lot. because teams hedge the screens and don't allow him to get open. and he can't create off the dribble himself which really limits his scoring opportunities.

it used to kill us even more when we had ben. because teams would cheat off of him and rip couldn't get open. we now have more big men who can shoot and we are better at moving the ball and making teams pay for this.

rip is slightly better than he used to be. i love the kid but overall i would have to say he's the worst ball handler of any SG in the nba. ANY.

if he could handle the rock and finish going to the hole, he'd be a top 10 player.

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/whiteout_080519.html

A "white-out" at the Palace! Hooray! [smilie=sayitaintso:

Um, no.

http://www.nba.com/media/pistons/whiteout_400.gif

GHEY

No, no, no, no, no, no.

This is what bullshit fans of nothing franchises like the Florida teams do. We already have some of the best fans in the NBA we don't need stupid gimmicks.

Is there anyway we can stop this tragedy and affront to traditional fans?

Edit: Shouldn't the fact that they do this in Cleveland be enough to cause moral outrage?

I was originally against this, but now I'm completely on board.

WHITE OUT

Nope, can't do it.

All along the specter – the children’s security blanket, as Rivers said – of returning back to the Garden remained. The joke became Boston might win the title going 16-12, never once winning away from here.

It was false hope, a ridiculous notion bolder players would have proudly put to rest weeks ago. Boston only wins a championship if its triumvirate of superstars gets a whole heck of a lot tougher.

“Urgency and desperation,” Allen said. “Those are two good words to use.”

It is one thing to say it, but will their jumpers stand up to what undoubtedly will be a wild Palace of Auburn Hills crowd? Detroit always has been a brutally tough place to play, the fans combining not just noise and energy but a sense of old-school ferocity not often found in today’s luxury box NBA.

When Indiana’s Ron Artest and Stephen Jackson famously went into the stands to fight someone who chucked a beer at them back in the fall of 2004, some fans not only fought back, others even charged the court to join in. Hopelessly undersized guys actually were squaring off with NBA behemoths. It may have been stupid and crazy, but that’s the point.

You’re just not getting that everywhere.

If the Pistons are focused – and playing the spoiler against an establishment team such as the Celtics seems to have their full attention – this is no place to try to end a losing streak.



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=ApT1FrAhspHtUUShlDldk4Q5nYcB?slug=dw-detbosgametwo052208&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I liked when he said this, it was even the first melee reference that didn't make me roll my eyes. His point: Detroit fans are not only loud, they're just plain fucking nuts.

Not any more. We've sold out. We're just like Orlando and Cleveland.

In other news I might be making it to the drunk thread pretty soon....

i think we can all agree that when the refs are allowing a more physical game, we excel. all those ticky tack fouls at the top of the key throws off our aggresiveness.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

This is what bullshit fans of nothing franchises like the Florida teams do. We already have some of the best fans in the NBA we don't need stupid gimmicks.


Thundersticks.
:dismissed:

Thundersticks.
:dismissed:

I'll grant you that the thundersticks are bad. But at the end of the day they're just noise makers in a stadium that has shown no need for them. It's still nothing compared to everyone having to wear the same colored shirt in some bogus sign of team support and fan loyalty.

Thundersticks also at least add to something fans can do to either pump the home team up or create an even more hostile environment for opposing team. Again, they are a gimmick, but at least they can serve an actual "purpose" during the game. The wearing of the same colored shirt is an outward sign of support, something to show the rest of the world what great fans we have. In places with non-traditional teams and/or crappy fans that may be necessary but we in Detroit have no need for that.

At least I draw those distinctions. See, sometimes distinctions can be drawn and looked at. But you can keep dismissing me if you want.

:cogent:

May 24, 2008
8:48 a.m. EST

AUBURN HILLS- "A moderate explosive eruption began at Mt. Davidson at 8:41 a.m. today. Pilots reported an ash plume reached an altitude of at least 35,000 feet. The eruption was apparently preceded by a minor eruptive event at 3:35 a.m. Accordingly, MVO has raised the level of concern color code to RED. Calculated wind directions indicate ash trajectories to the east of Mt. Davidson the direction of Auburn Hills. Based on wind velocities, ash could begin falling in the Auburn Hills area within several hours of the start of the eruption, which ironically coincides with tip off time for Game 3 of the NBA's Eastern Conference Finals."

"Seismic data from the volcano suggests the eruption is continuing at this time [and is] likely producing additional amounts of ash."

"The Michigan Volcano Observatory has instituted 24 hour a day monitoring from both the Auburn Hills and Pontiac offices, and will update the level of concern color code as appropriate. Further updates will follow as information becomes available."

We need more volcano avatars because of unity, and so it doesn't look like I have a crush on Glenn.

We need more volcano avatars because of unity, and so it doesn't look like I have a crush on Glenn.
no, you will be stuck with Glenn crush rumors for now. The volcano is tenuous at best. Plus I never trust a guy who selectively makes and changes his predictions about a team being DONE to his own convenience. Its a very Tony Danza move.

Plus I never trust a guy who selectively makes and changes his predictions about a team being DONE to his own convenience. Its a very Tony Danza move.

Pathetic.

When you pick and choose your spots to jab without knowing the facts (or taking the time to read the history), you come off looking like a boob.

Boob.

The volcano gonna getcha, Codename V.

Better run.

Pathetic.

When you pick and choose your spots to jab without knowing the facts (or taking the time to read the history), you come off looking like a boob.

Boob.
Actually I look nothing Like Boobie, sorry.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/226/521052523_6e4dbd9771_o.jpg

Volcanoes are for selectively conveniently DONE people. We all can't live as convenient as you Tony. :( Way to pick on us little people.:emo kid:

Ok, moving on...

I just read that Chauncey says he won't be 100% at any point during the rest of the playoffs.

Do any of you think that this injury might keep him out of the Olympics?

Not that it would bother me.

Fuck the Olympics.

If you change a subject, make sure it doesnt involve the Olympics.


As far as Billups not being 100 percent, this series it may not be an issue. If we get the lakers it shouldnt either though.

Man, I'm pumped for tonight. I don't have tickets or anything, but I hope the Palace is rockin' off the hook. I'm not a big fan of the whole color-coordinated t-shirt thing, usually I think of that as something cities do when they are novice to playoff success, but whatever. I just hope it's loud, rowdy, and Doc Rivers gets a Tech...


Go 'Stons!

We need more volcano avatars because of unity, and so it doesn't look like I have a crush on Glenn.

I said that I was thinking about doing it, that I'm one of those stupidly superstitious fans. And since it's been good to us, I see no choice.

I'm on the Volcano bandwagon.

So we're going with Volcanoes? Does my sig help at all?

As to Billups' health, I agree that it is only a major factor against the Spurs where Billups is already tremendously out-quicked by Parker/Ginobli. This series he will just muscle Rondo, draw fouls, and shoot jumpers.

On second thought, the way the Lakers look right now, we will need every weapon available to us if we make it past Boston.

Edit: ok so can I get filled in on the volcano thing?

As to Billups' health, I agree that it is only a major factor against the Spurs where Billups is already tremendously out-quicked by Parker/Ginobli. This series he will just muscle Rondo, draw fouls, and shoot jumpers.

On second thought, the way the Lakers look right now, we will need every weapon available to us if we make it past Boston.

Edit: ok so can I get filled in on the volcano thing?


As long as Tay can keep Kobe modest, the Lakers don't fear me nearly as much as the Spurs do. For everything Pau Gasol is offensively, he's just as soft defensively, and not having Bynum is a plus for everybody. I think we have a major advantage in the front court Vs. the Lakers. Gasol isn't going to destroy Sheed or Dyess, and they have nobody that can guard either of thoes two (Vlad Radmanovic?? please), Lakers need Bynum to win a Title.

Pathetic.

When you pick and choose your spots to jab without knowing the facts (or taking the time to read the history), you come off looking like a boob.

Boob.


Has Mt. Glenn finally erupted?

P.S. tell Alyssa I said hi.



And complaining about white outs? You guys sound like bitches! I'll be in the house for this one and I WILL be decked in white.

http://www.anvari.org/db/fun/Marriage/Wedding_Dress.jpg

I will be in the house for this one.