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Matt
05-18-2007, 05:11 AM
Gm 1: Mon., May 21 @ DET, 8 p.m., TNT
Gm 2: Thu., May 24 @ DET, 8 p.m., TNT
Gm 3: Sun., May 27 @ CLE, 8:30 p.m., TNT
Gm 4: Tue., May 29 @ CLE, 8 p.m., TNT
Gm 5*: Thu., May 31 @ DET, 8 p.m., TNT
Gm 6*: Sat., June 2 @ CLE, 8:30 p.m., TNT
Gm 7*: Mon., June 4 @ DET, 8 p.m., TNT


http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8012/12fb0.jpg

"Playtime's over, baby bulls. Move aside and let the men get to work."

http://img95.imageshack.us/img95/7287/25gf8.jpg
You don't think this man wants a ring??

The Pistons are heading to their 5th straight Eastern Conference Finals.

Will it be the Cleveland Lebrons

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7331/20070408rbpistcavs463tzy4.jpg

or the NJ Nets?

http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/3285/20070330ctjpistn03120wb1.jpg


"That don't mean nothing," Wallace said. "We're going to our fifth conference final, but we only have one 'ship (championship). Going to the conference finals don't mean nothing. We're playing for a bigger trophy."

http://wtfdetroit.com/pics/palaceofauburnhills.jpg

Glenn
05-18-2007, 10:16 AM
Question: With CWebb and Dice both struggling, what do you guys think about swapping them in the rotation to see if we can spark one or both of them? (Dice to the starting lineup, Webb off the bench)

Big Swami
05-18-2007, 10:28 AM
Max?

Hermy
05-18-2007, 10:33 AM
Question: With CWebb and Dice both struggling, what do you guys think about swapping them in the rotation to see if we can spark one or both of them? (Dice to the starting lineup, Webb off the bench)

Dyess is playing incredibly, he's just not hitting that 18 footer or dunking his putbacks. No touchey dicey.

Glenn
05-18-2007, 10:40 AM
Dyess is playing incredibly, he's just not hitting that 18 footer or dunking his putbacks. No touchey dicey.

Wouldn't starting him get him more time then?

I suppose having a quicker hook on CWebb would have a similar effect.

WTFchris
05-18-2007, 10:45 AM
I don't think swapping them helps. Webber has no chemistry with Delfino/Flip/Hunter. If this was at the start of the season I would consider it because Delfino could really work well with dribble hand offs from Webber. He's a better slasher than RIP is anyway. But they probably haven't worked on it a ton.

Hermy
05-18-2007, 10:46 AM
Yeah, he's asked not to start, and he's comfy with his 30 minutes. I think web will be a much better fit in the next round against either a softy in moore or a lumbering dope in Z. Too much youth/athleticism seems to be his downfall.

Big Swami
05-18-2007, 11:45 AM
lumbering dope

That was a perfect description. It makes me think that C-Webb is going to be able to take more advantage of his great passing game too, because Ilgauskas is just always so badly out of position, on account of being a lunkhead.

WTFchris
05-18-2007, 01:04 PM
Don't forget nobody plays defense on those teams either besides Eric Snow (he's still on the Cavs, right?) or maybe Jason Kidd. As long as we don't become stagnent we should have a field day on offense compared to the Bulls.

Timone
05-19-2007, 01:47 AM
Part of Dice's ritual is not starting. He's superstitious.

Forgot to mention the day Ben Wallace bolted to Chicago I made a secret pact with Satan for a championship this year (you're welcome btw). Even with the minor scare there I still believe (not for too much longer though) I did the right thing.

Cross
05-19-2007, 05:55 AM
I dont see why we should struggle with the Cavs. Anyone outside of LeBron is shit imo. The only other person that might scare me is Z. He is so inconsistent but one game he might drop 24-15, and thats the game they win.

Series goes to 6, at the most.

Uncle Mxy
05-19-2007, 08:30 AM
Win two games and we're guaranteed to play in June for the 4th straight year.

Big Swami
05-19-2007, 08:53 AM
I dont see why we should struggle with the Cavs. Anyone outside of LeBron is shit imo. The only other person that might scare me is Z. He is so inconsistent but one game he might drop 24-15, and thats the game they win.

Series goes to 6, at the most.

Yeah, the Cavs/Nets series was so bad I couldn't believe what I was watching. Just miserable basketball. I have no doubt that the Pistons can take apart Cleveland, this year especially. Whether they will or not is the question...

Timone
05-19-2007, 11:48 AM
Pistons in 5...assuming of course they "want to."

metr0man
05-19-2007, 12:15 PM
I've got us in 6. The team doesn't have the fire or desire to just demolish them.

Cross
05-19-2007, 12:28 PM
Don't be expecting Gooden to go 8-11 or Donyell to go 6-10 frmo 3 pt land.

btw, we do have the 2nd best offensive rebounder in the playoffs, Dice.

we are also 2nd in the league in fewest TO's behind the Wizards. We score more in the playoffs vs the Cavs, considering we have played better defensive teams in the playoffs.

The Cavs are the BEST defensive team in the playoffs though, giving up 87.1 a game. Too bad we are 2nd giving up 87.7 a game.

just a few facts on how we should easily take this series.

we need a guaransheed in this serieS!

Baker
05-19-2007, 01:21 PM
ESPN is reporting that league officials have already called a foul on Rip and Tay while they were thinking about guarding Lebron in a few days.

Big Swami
05-19-2007, 03:09 PM
Yeah, the new rule is that when a guy is driving to the basket, you're not allowed to touch his halo.

Uncle Mxy
05-19-2007, 05:06 PM
Yeah, the new rule is that when a guy is driving to the basket, you're not allowed to touch his hymen.
Fixed.

mercury
05-19-2007, 06:47 PM
I dont see why we should struggle with the Cavs. Anyone outside of LeBron is shit imo. The only other person that might scare me is Z. He is so inconsistent but one game he might drop 24-15, and thats the game they win.

Series goes to 6, at the most.
Yeah, I'm in this camp... no way are the Cavs as quick on defense as the Bulls... especially inside.
We just gotta keep Sheed motivated or Gooden will get a lot of O boards.

bangsta
05-19-2007, 06:49 PM
ESPN is reporting that league officials have already called a foul on Rip and Tay while they were thinking about guarding Lebron in a few days.
and sheed has a tech already.. damn refs!!

Uncle Mxy
05-19-2007, 07:16 PM
LeTravel:

47% FGs, 9 FTs/game during regular season

42% FG, but 11 FTs/game during playoffs

UxKa
05-19-2007, 09:29 PM
The only thing that scares me about this series is the 'I love Lebron' fouls. Nice fix Mxy ;) Should be an entertaining series, I hope our Pistons dont get comfy like they did against the Bulls. On a side note... I know T's are reset for the postseason. Is it the 7th then every other where you get suspended in the postseason? Sheed already has two right? I hope he saves the others for the finals because the Cavs just don't deserve it.

Cross
05-20-2007, 08:24 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2007/series?series=cledet

good site for series preview. I never knew he just crushed the living fuck out of the Cavs everytime we beat them and the Cavs barely got by us once.

lmfao at the poll greatest upsets..vote now!

ojay
05-21-2007, 01:15 AM
Ran into a Cleveland fan on IRC


[00:49:31] ::: Join: (Bombadil) (~eldest@Bombadil.users.undernet.org)
[00:50:34] [Bombadil]: the CLE Lebrons
[00:50:38] [Bombadil]: are one year older
[00:50:42] [Bombadil]: one year wiser
[00:51:07] [Bombadil]: had pistons down on mat...knife to throat and Cavs choked last year yes
[00:51:31] [Bombadil]: now DET has fagg*t webber...nice pickup
[00:51:37] [Bombadil]: but how doesn he play Z?
[00:51:45] [Bombadil]: DET was better when they had Okur
[00:51:49] [Bombadil]: as backup center
[00:51:55] [Bombadil]: and Big Ben
[00:52:08] [Bombadil]: DET has no answer for lebron and pavlovic
[00:52:10] [Bombadil]: hmmmm
[00:52:31] [Bombadil]: still DET has experienmce and great guards in rip and CB
[00:52:39] [Bombadil]: should be great series
[00:52:48] [Bombadil]: DET should be favored
[00:52:53] [Bombadil]: but not by much
[00:52:58] [Bombadil]: DET lacks a lot
[00:53:04] [Bombadil]: and everything DET lacks
[00:53:07] [Bombadil]: CLE has
[00:53:21] [Bombadil]: but again..esperience..wisdom..we will see
[00:53:37] [Bombadil]: when rasheed peace be upon him sees himself as a god wallace
[00:53:38] ::: Mode: (DefCon1) sets (+l 15)
[00:53:42] [Bombadil]: fucks with lberon
[00:53:44] [Bombadil]: this time
[00:54:01] [Bombadil]: lberon will snap his hill jack cunting head
[00:54:06] [Bombadil]: you see?
[00:54:20] [Bombadil]: others do not stand up to that racist ignorant enemy of goodness

Too bad he got banned from the channel.

Wizzle
05-21-2007, 09:04 AM
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/pc-davis/Pistons/WeAreAllWitnesses.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/pc-davis/Pistons/WeAreAllWitnesses2.jpg
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e26/pc-davis/Pistons/WitnessThis.jpg
http://i1.tinypic.com/xojwg3.jpg

it's time Detroit

Fool
05-21-2007, 09:53 AM
http://basketballr.com/images/chosen1.jpg

It's time Detroit.

Matt
05-21-2007, 06:24 PM
That's gold.

http://i1.tinypic.com/xojwg3.jpg

Matt
05-21-2007, 06:34 PM
Basically, I think that the Bulls were the 2nd best team in the East and we've already dispatched them. Bron-Bron and Company will put up a fight, but I think our boys have learned their lesson from the Chicago series. Take nothing for granted and steamroll the competition. Cleveland will take game 3 at home, but that's all folks.

Lebron's too willing to take jumpers and the rest of that squad won't step up. I'm looking for CWebb to have a big series against Z. He'll be passing well from the post and Z's slow-ass won't even keep up with CWebb's slow-ass. I hope to see Tayshaun in the post on Lebron, to make him work on the other end. Lebron's much stronger than Tay, but Tay's Inspector Gadget arms can get his baby hook going. Rip might have some trouble against Pavlovic's physical defense, but as long as Rip doesn't try too much one-on-one, we should be fine.

Pistons in 5.

[smilie=llama_banan:

Big Swami
05-21-2007, 07:14 PM
Go Pistons!

UxKa
05-21-2007, 07:27 PM
I still have all thos 'Witness' wallpapers, pure gold. When the Pistons went through a lil slump a few months ago I started playing with my wallpapers looking for good luck and I landed on this which I still have up:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/UxKa/rasheed-wall.jpg
(sorry i dont know how to resize)

And just for effect:

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b40/UxKa/20060521vscavs03_rasheed_blocks_sno.jpg


edit: Forgot to add that the new guy working at the gas station across the street from me (which obviously I frequent) is a big Cavs fan. We have been having our banter since before either team finished their last series. Today I was getting gas and beer and I didn't see him come out of the break room as I was paying and I hear 'Cavs in 5'. I said 'Pistons in 3' and we had a good laugh.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 08:06 PM
Pistons in 6.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 08:15 PM
Why do these fags always pull this shit ... game is on at 5pm only to have to listen to ANOTHER set of predictions, stories and other shit?

Lets get this party started.

Uncle Mxy
05-21-2007, 08:52 PM
Cavs ahead 24-19 -- LeBron hasn't scored a point.

Not good.

Big Swami
05-21-2007, 09:04 PM
Performance is a little lame, but hang in there. Still very early.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 09:05 PM
Webb and Billups in minor foul troub too.

34-27 Clev

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 09:10 PM
And 11 offensive rebounds by the Cavs? WTF?

Laxation
05-21-2007, 09:11 PM
Itd be nice not to be scared everytime Cavs shoot that they will get the rebound...

UxKa
05-21-2007, 09:22 PM
On the bright side, 4 of those Oboards were one possession with Z tippin it back and forth. But yeah, still bad. Im lookin at this like Cavs are playing their best ball, we are a bit shitty, and its just a few points.

Laxation
05-21-2007, 09:36 PM
OCavs are playing their best ball, we are a bit shitty, and its just a few points.
So the Cavs came to play, and we didnt.

Why doesnt this:
A] Surprise me
B] Make me feel any better

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 09:50 PM
So LB with 4pts, but nothing to do with our D? I see a couple of guys always watching him or on him when he has the ball. Credit where credit is do.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 09:55 PM
On the bright side, 4 of those Oboards were one possession with Z tippin it back and forth. But yeah, still bad. Im lookin at this like Cavs are playing their best ball, we are a bit shitty, and its just a few points.

Words of calm, right there. And it looks like uxka is right.

UxKa
05-21-2007, 09:58 PM
Just pointing out that now a bit into the 3rd we bring some game and were up by 5. Main point, their best ball is not much better than our subpar ball.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 10:06 PM
56-55 Pistons at the end of the 3rd. Low scoring affair.

Ya get the feeling it will be CBill vs LBJ in the 4th. I expect Tay to influence this game in some way, at some point.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 10:29 PM
I've gotta give Clev some props on their D. Not saying great, but pretty good.

Zip Goshboots
05-21-2007, 10:34 PM
56-55 Pistons at the end of the 3rd. Low scoring affair.

Ya get the feeling it will be CBill vs LBJ in the 4th. I expect Tay to influence this game in some way, at some point.

This is not a "low scoring affair"
It is an abomination that should make David Stern think about suspending the entire Eastern Conference for next season.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 10:43 PM
I THINK we got this one. Ugly win but I'll take it.

Up 2 with the ball with 2.8 secs left.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 10:50 PM
Sheed cheated off DM to help on LBJ and DM threw up that 3. Its a way different situation but I did think of Horry there.

UxKa
05-21-2007, 10:54 PM
Words of calm, right there. And it looks like uxka is right.

And may you all be calmed by my soothing words for the rest of the series. Ugly, but never doubted win IMO.

micknugget
05-21-2007, 10:57 PM
What a pathetic performance!!!!! WTF is up with Billups? He kept turning the damn ball over and wouldn't shoot until the 4th quarter. Dice was ice cold. We kept settling for outside shots, especially Prince. Take it to the hole once in a while and stop falling over!! He fell down 2 or 3 times when dribbleing the ball. It was embarrassing! We kept leaving guys wide open and except for Rip, we couldn't hit a shot. Oh yea, and grab a f$%king rebound once in a while. Rip saved our asses tonight.

Big Swami
05-21-2007, 10:57 PM
I am really surprised by Lebron, man. He seems to be undergoing some kind of...I don't know what the fuck it is, but if I'm a Cleveland fan, I'm tearing my hair out by the roots right now.

Uncle Mxy
05-21-2007, 11:08 PM
I am really surprised by Chauncey, man. He seems to be undergoing some kind of...I don't know what the fuck it is, but as a Detroit fan, I'm tearing my hair out by the roots right now.

Tahoe
05-21-2007, 11:18 PM
Can I get some clarifuckincation on that?

UxKa
05-21-2007, 11:19 PM
LOL at 'Mich & Tele' to Mxy post. Chauncey was disturbing, but why did Tay fall down three times with no fouls? That disturbs me more. Id feel better if I saw there were tripping calls that were missed, but just taking the game for how it was called that bothered me more.

Big Swami
05-21-2007, 11:22 PM
I am really surprised by Chauncey, man. He seems to be undergoing some kind of...I don't know what the fuck it is, but as a Detroit fan, I'm tearing my hair out by the roots right now.

lolllll

Too true. :-\

Cross
05-22-2007, 06:41 AM
We need to wake the fuck up if we want to win that ring. billups better not be playing like this for the rest of the series despite his big shot.

Cavs couldnt score a single point in the last 1:53? pathetic especially when your a team that has 18 offensive boards...wtf?

Glenn
05-22-2007, 08:36 AM
No way that this goes less than 6 games IMO.

You guys that wanted Cleveland more than NJ got your wish at least.

If Donyell would have hit that wide open three (or if the Cavs hadn't gone 1/10 for threes in general) we'd be in a 0-1 hole right now.

The Cavs are going to outrebound us in every game this series, but their shooting is so poor that they probably can't beat us. "Probably".

A great game for Sheed, though, especially the 7 blocks and the timely 3's.

geerussell
05-22-2007, 10:43 AM
Cleveland may or may not make it interesting but they are no more ready to get past the Pistons than Chicago or Orlando were. When you must steal one on the road you can't afford to blow an opportunity and they whiffed on a good one last night. Then again, road record is the main reason I had low regard for the rest of the east going into the playoffs. Weak road teams are weak playoff teams.

Is it time to play the spurs yet?

Glenn
05-22-2007, 11:08 AM
I can't believe that the pundits are all over LeBron for that game-ending play. Well, actually I can, since that is exactly wrong with today's NBA and the coverage of it.

Dude makes the smart, team-first play (draws the defense in and then kicks it to a wide open 3 point shooter with a shot to steal a game on the road) and they are all over him for not taking the ball himself to the rim, into 3 defenders.

Something does tell me that Bron didn't want to shoot those 2 free throws with the game on the line, down two, but he still made the right play.

Tahoe
05-22-2007, 12:25 PM
I've been thinking about that last play.

If CBill is coming down the lane and he kicks it out instead of shooting it or going to the line, I might be asking the same thing. Or MJ would have shot it.

But not a terrible play. LBJ kicks it out to a wide open DM who has a great 3pt % for a win. If it went down, the press would have loved it.

Sheed and Rip get game balls for me.

Matt
05-22-2007, 01:44 PM
every single NBA TV analyst quotes the "you go for the win on the road and the tie at home" remark in that situation. they're a bunch of hypocrites if they're piling on him for that play.

of course, i couldn't care less.

Pistons 1
Cadavaliers 0

Uncle Mxy
05-22-2007, 02:20 PM
I thought LeBron made a fine play that didn't work.

I didn't think a three definitely would've won the game for them. Pistons down by 1 with the ball, several seconds, and timeouts, on home court? That's not a guaranteed Cavs win... more like a Rip Hamilton buzzer beater to me. :)

UxKa
05-22-2007, 02:40 PM
Crazy that Sheed almost had a triple double with the third stat being blocks. 99.9% of the time that third stat is assists or rebounds depending on the players position.... but blocks!! That is just nuts.

Higherwarrior
05-22-2007, 06:36 PM
nope. still a bad play IMO. the ESPN crew was comparing it to jordan kicking it out to paxson or kerr. nonsense. if jordan had the step on his man and a clear layup and/or dunk, he takes it 100 out of 100 times.

for as talented a player as he is, lebron has a long way to go before he's 'great'. yes marshall had an open look. but lebron had a layup or at worst, 2 foul shots. however, prince wasn't even in a position where he could've prevented the layup/dunk with the leverage lebron had on him heading to the hoop.

lebron is scared of big shots and can't hit big FTs. i don't care how wide open your teammate is, if you're a player of lebron's talent and you can get right to the rim to tie the game, you do it every time.

lebron will never be great until he develops a killer instinct. he is FAR from that point at this stage in his career. and i wonder if he'll ever have it. it seems to the type of thing you eitehr have from birth or you don't.

i personally don't think he has it.

Hermy
05-22-2007, 06:48 PM
nope. still a bad play IMO. the ESPN crew was comparing it to jordan kicking it out to paxson or kerr. nonsense. if jordan had the step on his man and a clear layup and/or dunk, he takes it 100 out of 100 times.

for as talented a player as he is, lebron has a long way to go before he's 'great'. yes marshall had an open look. but lebron had a layup or at worst, 2 foul shots. however, prince wasn't even in a position where he could've prevented the layup/dunk with the leverage lebron had on him heading to the hoop.

lebron is scared of big shots and can't hit big FTs. i don't care how wide open your teammate is, if you're a player of lebron's talent and you can get right to the rim to tie the game, you do it every time.

lebron will never be great until he develops a killer instinct. he is FAR from that point at this stage in his career. and i wonder if he'll ever have it. it seems to the type of thing you eitehr have from birth or you don't.

i personally don't think he has it.

He could have dunked on Tay there huh? Sweet.

Uncle Mxy
05-22-2007, 07:32 PM
nope. still a bad play IMO. the ESPN crew was comparing it to jordan kicking it out to paxson or kerr. nonsense. if jordan had the step on his man and a clear layup and/or dunk, he takes it 100 out of 100 times.
Jordan-to-Kerr was a tie game situation. LeBron was two behind.


for as talented a player as he is, lebron has a long way to go before he's 'great'. yes marshall had an open look. but lebron had a layup or at worst, 2 foul shots. however, prince wasn't even in a position where he could've prevented the layup/dunk with the leverage lebron had on him heading to the hoop.
The best possible situation was a Tayshaun foul and three point play, but that was hardly guaranteed. Realistically, he either could've tied and taken the game to probable OT if not a loss, or taken a chance to possibly get ahead and win it right there. He did the latter, and it didn't work out.

He needed the killer instinct in the 2nd half of the game when the Pistons pulled ahead. He didn't have it, except when he bashed Webber in the face.

Tahoe
05-22-2007, 07:42 PM
Bad play cause it didn't work.

Glenn
05-22-2007, 08:05 PM
I think there is a decent chance that shot would have been blocked.

I think LeBron agrees with me.

UxKa
05-22-2007, 08:16 PM
Prince is so long and Lebron hadnt turned the corner on him by the time he was at the basket so it would have been a highly contested shot. Less likely, Rip was right on his ass and maybe swatted it from behind. I think he saw 7 block Sheed coming his way and that scared him more. What scared him the most though, is the foul line. I wont say he made a bad play, but the ridicule he would be getting from the media today if Tay fouled him and he made one of two is why he passed.

Timone
05-23-2007, 01:37 AM
It's got me to thinking...maybe LeBron is trying to be the first LeBron as opposed to the next Jordan? Maybe he wants to be known as the guy who sets teammates up for the game winning shot instead of taking it himself.


Or as an overrated POS who isn't as good as Dwyane Wade. :D

Cross
05-23-2007, 07:48 AM
If I was a Cavs fan id be fucking pissed. LeBron had the dunk/layup. If he got fouled, he would have had 2 free throws. but I think that the 3 pointer, away factor is pretty important too. away game, a 3 isn't a bad idea.

Uncle Mxy
05-23-2007, 07:50 AM
It's got me to thinking...maybe LeBron is trying to be the first LeBron as opposed to the next Jordan? Maybe he wants to be known as the guy who sets teammates up for the game winning shot instead of taking it himself.
He'd been hyped as the next Magic as much as than the next Jordan (which every sub-7' stud high school baller gets hyped as).

Glenn
05-23-2007, 10:25 AM
If I was a Cavs fan id be fucking pissed. LeBron had the dunk/layup. If he got fouled, he would have had 2 free throws.

Counting on the refs to bail you out with the game on the line with a foul call < passing to a wide open three point specialists

Ask Chauncey Billups is relying on the refs to make that call is a good strategy, he's tried it about 4 times as a Piston and they just don't make that call.

Zekyl
05-23-2007, 01:27 PM
Counting on the refs to bail you out with the game on the line with a foul call < passing to a wide open three point specialists

Ask Chauncey Billups is relying on the refs to make that call is a good strategy, he's tried it about 4 times as a Piston and they just don't make that call.






LeBron "Chosen One" James > Chauncey

Big Swami
05-24-2007, 09:21 AM
GOOOOOOOOO PISTONS

GOOOOOOOOO CHAUNCEY

GOOOOOOOOO TAYSHAUN

GOOOOOOOOO RIP

GOOOOOOOOO RASHEED

GOOOOOOOOO MAD MAX

GOOOOOOOOO "DICE"

GOOOOOOOOO DELFINO

GOOOOOOOOO LINDSEY

GOOOOOOOOO DD

GOOOOOOOOO FLIP MURRAY

and for christ's sake GOOOOOOOO CHRIS WEBBER

P.S. GOOOOOOOOOO ARNIE KANDER!

Matt
05-24-2007, 01:50 PM
I hope Lebron comes out tonight hell bent on shooting the rock and takes the rest of the team out of sync. Of course, this is Lebron, not Kobe, so he won't be too much of a ball hog.

On the Pistons side, I hope to they cleaned up their play and made adjustments. Less Chauncey turnovers and more production from Tayshaun and CWebb.

I feel a blow-out tonight, guys. The 15+ point kind.

Big Swami
05-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Listen - even though game 1 was totally awful, I don't remember once being afraid that the Pistons wouldn't pull it out in the end. Cleveland does not scare me.

Timone
05-24-2007, 06:18 PM
Cleveland scares me only because they bore my fucking ass to death.


In other news I'm on alprazolam for my social anxiety disorder and I fell asleep today. The point? I had a dream and in that dream the Pistons won the NBA championship (over the Spurs in 5). The sad thing is...the dream seemed so goddamn real.

UxKa
05-24-2007, 07:53 PM
GO PISTONS!!! 98-87. Lebron will intentionally tank if the score is close late so that he wont have to make a decision about the final shot, or take it.

Timone
05-24-2007, 08:00 PM
Sooner or later lebron's gonna have to realize his teammates are Eric Snow, Drew Gooden, Sasha Pavlovic, and Donyell Marshall.

Big Swami
05-24-2007, 08:21 PM
So far so good, me likey first couple of minutes.

UxKa
05-24-2007, 08:29 PM
DAYUM!! JMax had a healthy meal of babies today. Comes in, blocks Lebron, dunks over Lebron, then absolutely airs out to kill the rim in a transition oop.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 08:33 PM
Mad Max's play has been huge with RW and Dice on the bench. But as good as we are playing, we're only up 3.

-NoQuarter-
05-24-2007, 08:43 PM
Rasheed Wallace is not allowed to play basketball. It's fucking ridiculous.

Big Swami
05-24-2007, 08:47 PM
Ten years from now, everyone's going to wonder how the refs got so out of control on him. Yeah, he was hot-headed as a youngster, but he's done nothing to earn the treatment he's now getting.

On the other hand, I like Maxiell a lot more than I like Sheed right now...

-NoQuarter-
05-24-2007, 08:54 PM
I can't remember the last game where he didn't pick up 2 fouls in the first 10 minutes of play. He gets reffed like he's a fucking rookie. The rest of the guys also need to step up and help prevent penetration so our only line of interior defense isn't stuck having to make all the stops and getting whistled out of the game all the time.

Black Dynamite
05-24-2007, 09:12 PM
This is just a shittier game by our strarters. Lazy pass after lazy pass.


PS-Flip Murray is garbage. two 3's were a result of him sitting in the paint looking dumb.

Timone
05-24-2007, 09:13 PM
That shit on the back of Gooden's head is making me sick. I don't know if I should throw up or eat it out.

Black Dynamite
05-24-2007, 09:14 PM
This is embarrassing.

Black Dynamite
05-24-2007, 09:14 PM
So far so good, me likey first couple of minutes.
Well look at that last couple minutes so you can throw up.

Timone
05-24-2007, 09:15 PM
The fuck is it about the 2nd quarter that fucks us in the ass constantly?

Black Dynamite
05-24-2007, 09:17 PM
I can't watch this game with steve kerr at the helm.


He's complementing every shitty thing verajo does. "He's great, flopping, throwing his body into people, hacking people. Amazing guy!"

UxKa
05-24-2007, 09:18 PM
What the hell happened heading into the half?

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 09:18 PM
Varejao is the biggest flopping pansy in the history of the game. Literally. What a shame.

Timone
05-24-2007, 09:20 PM
Damn South Americans and their soap operas.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 09:43 PM
Sheed can't be the only guy standing under the hoop when LBJ breaks down our D or he'll get some more fouls.

Nice 2 by Billups

Timone
05-24-2007, 09:46 PM
Thank God Webber is at least touching the ball consistently.

I am not going to risk sounding like a pussy bitch again and lose it like after game 5 against Chicago, so I'm just gonna stay calm and try to point out the positives. :-P

UxKa
05-24-2007, 10:01 PM
JMax needs more minutes. Thats a period but its square.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:02 PM
UxKa any words of calm for tonight?

Timone
05-24-2007, 10:05 PM
Tayshaun's turning into Shawn Marion...

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 10:25 PM
Sheed with a couple of BIG BIG shots.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:29 PM
Man, I thought I heard that slap from here. Bill on Huges. Got lucky.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:30 PM
And a friggin layup E-ray

I wanna say that...nope...not gonna jinx anything

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:36 PM
Dice show us why LBJ passed the ball the other night

Big Swami
05-24-2007, 10:40 PM
Jesus Christ the refs are fucking us again

UxKa
05-24-2007, 10:41 PM
Yes Tahoe.... but first: Bullshit goaltending call. My words of calm are what I said in a previous post, after the last game Lebron is gonna shit himself over a game winning shot/pass. Pistons own the Cavs as far as late foul shooting, and Cavs have one timeout left.

edit: oh yeah, gooden has that fucked up square on the back of his head, no team wins with that.

UxKa
05-24-2007, 10:43 PM
Just after I post that, Lebron forces once its under two minutes and misses.

edit: then Lepuss only goes 1/2 from the FT line.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:46 PM
That was a shitty pass by Sheed. Too tight

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 10:53 PM
Yuk yuk yuk. LeBron misses, Sheed almost tips it in for the Cavs, Mike Brown goes nuts.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 10:56 PM
Edited

UxKa
05-24-2007, 10:58 PM
UxKa :bows: for his calming words :)

Jethro34
05-24-2007, 10:59 PM
Wow

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 11:00 PM
Sheed is on NBA TV right now.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 11:01 PM
First answer is "is that a real question? LOL

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 11:06 PM
He bashes Varejao's flopping, LOL.

Tahoe
05-24-2007, 11:06 PM
Sheed is classic. I'm looking for a transcript of that. lol

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 11:20 PM
By the way, anyone with the name "Chosen 1" tattooed across their shoulders should never win. LeBron's pride and ego are by karma enough for him to perhaps never win a championship.

ps i dont really think that's true, but i'm just pointing out he's an asshat

Timone
05-24-2007, 11:23 PM
Both teams played hard man.

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 11:27 PM
No doubt about that.

DrRay11
05-24-2007, 11:35 PM
I love that quote about Varejao by Sheed, something along the lines of, after being asked about the battle between Sheed and Varejao:

"Battle? He aint seen any battles... floppin' like that ain't defense in the fourth quarter"

Moodini31
05-24-2007, 11:36 PM
For a long time, I have questioned the WTF Jason Maxiell man-love. After tonight, I have much more respect for all y'all.

http://thesouthend.typepad.com/tsenews/images/s_maxiell.jpg
Mad Max bitches!!!!

b-diddy
05-25-2007, 12:03 AM
not quite tayshaunian, but this was one hell of a coming out party. spot in rotation is pretty much guaranteed from here on out. i bet his trade value skyrocketed tonight.

b-diddy
05-25-2007, 12:08 AM
incidentally, makes me wonder who the oddman out is next year. assume amir is in the mix, and we want webber back (dont we?). and we want maxiell getting pt too...

webber sheed dice max amir (and nazr).

moving nazr is the obvious move, the next one is dropping web/dyce. i'd hate to drop a good soldier like dyce... i honestly dont know what i'd do if im joe.

Matt
05-25-2007, 12:18 AM
For a long time, I have questioned the WTF Jason Maxiell man-love. After tonight, I have much more respect for all y'all.

http://thesouthend.typepad.com/tsenews/images/s_maxiell.jpg
Mad Max bitches!!!!

"DUNK U VERY MUCH!!"

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/9b/fullj.getty-74165835jg023_cavs_pistons_12_00_22_am.jpg

Matt
05-25-2007, 12:23 AM
The man has ice water in his veins

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070525/capt.3ea09d879feb458a8778334cf12e847f.cavaliers_pi stons_basketball_dtp131.jpg

Matt
05-25-2007, 12:25 AM
"LOL, we both made $50,000 by halftime!"

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/cd/fullj.getty-74165835jg010_cavs_pistons_11_42_08_pm.jpg

DrRay11
05-25-2007, 12:47 AM
LOL. Nice caption, Matt.

MOLA1
05-25-2007, 01:00 AM
"DUNK U VERY MUCH!!"

http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/sp/getty/9b/fullj.getty-74165835jg023_cavs_pistons_12_00_22_am.jpg
Wallpaper'd

Timone
05-25-2007, 02:21 AM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

Matt
05-25-2007, 02:34 AM
Highlights are marred by LBJ's dunks, but we get to see some Maxiell :D

tKdz-_fcSd0

-NoQuarter-
05-25-2007, 03:57 AM
Varajeo makes me want to fucking projectile vomit every time I have to see his clownish mop of hair sway when he flops.

That's not even the worst of it either. His constant hacking and pestering he does on D is so goddamn annoying to watch. He pulls jerseys, pushes, elbows, and all around tosses himself into people. No wonder Sheed gets so fired up when we play these bums. Now if only Chauncey could do the same...

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 04:02 AM
Some people dumped on sheed for leaving Marshall open, but we wouldnt of even been in that scenario if he hadn't blocked 7 shots and played a heck of a game. Seeing what he was doing tonight, I think he's been the mvp so far this series. Maxiell may end up coming close if he keeps playing like he did.

Verajo is the most overrated big man in nba history. He's what Tom tolbert would be if they allowed him to hack that much. He is also a cheap shot artist with his constantly over dramatic flailing arms. If thats whats passing for energy, then i'll pass.

Delfino played terrific. Made shots, kept in front of Lebron better, pushed the ball when he saw space, and honestly I hope we get him in to rest Tayshaun more often.

The Cavs defense isn't that good, but they use the infamous rick carlisle shot clock killer offense to keep the score low. It seems to have gotten to us enough to keep the games close. We need to increase the tempo a little bit.

Mike Brown and lebron took the high road in the post game, but took the low road all during the game trying to overreact on every drive in hopes of swaying the refs. But they arent the disgrace. The disgrace is ESPN. They gave the most bogus bias report ever. by mid show Rip somehow "clobbered" and "mugged" Lebron on the last play. Hubie made me want to slap him into retirement. I mean damn, I hate Kerr for his retarded bias bs and even he said you can't call that a foul. I mean until it hit sportscenter only one idiot even saw if as a rip off(the no brain replacement for EJ on Inside the NBA).

With that said......


we played shitty again and that bothers me. Billups made silly TO's again also. I don't see us winning more than 1 game in cleveland(if that), if this very bad execution continues. We were fortunate, but didn't impose any proof that we can keep this from being another 7 game series.

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 04:19 AM
On a another note. Chrissy Sheriden sees this as a chance to start up as much propaganda as possible..


Fine-worthy rebuke in order
Sheridan
By Chrissy Sheridan
ESPN Insider

AUBURN HILLS, Mich. -- I'm not going to kill Cleveland Cavaliers coach Mike Brown harder than anybody else in this column -- I'll save that honor for the referees -- for biting his tongue after the Eastern Conference finals Game 2 loss, 79-76, to the Detroit Pistons on Thursday, although I think he did his team a disservice by trying to take the high road by refraining from criticizing the officials in the interview room afterward.

"We're a no-excuse team," Brown said, a line that was echoed minutes later by LeBron James.

But make no mistake, the Cavs were absolutely livid at the lack of a call when James drove to the basket with eight seconds left and was hacked numerous times by Richard Hamilton, including a rake across his arm as he went for the shot everyone had been waiting three days to see if he would take.

I asked Hamilton in the locker room afterward if he had fouled James on the play, and Hamilton couldn't stifle a cackle before he gave his answer: "Nah, you know. I just put my hands up."~Wow did he just try to flip Rip's answer?

And let the record show that he cackled at the end of that answer, too.~Yep he is trying to flip it

The non-call was so egregious, I'd expect Jimmy Clark, Bernie Fryer and Mark Wunderlich to be told by the league office that they can watch the rest of the playoffs from Joey Crawford's man cave, since they don't deserve to be working at this stage of the postseason if they're too scared to call a foul on the biggest play of the game. But I'm not sure whether those three referees will be taking calls from the league office on Friday, since all three must be scheduled for surgery to have the whistles they swallowed removed from their stomachs.

You know, Brown could have come up with a line or two like that that would have cost him a fine but at least would have earned him the gratitude of the Cavs' fans, who will wake Friday morning feeling -- and feeling it rightfully, I might add -- that they were screwed.

If that had happened to someone on the Lakers, you can bet your bottom dollar Phil Jackson would have spoken frankly about it, then taken his $50,000 fine like a man.

Same would have happened with Pat Riley if that had happened to the Heat, and don't even get me started on what Mark Cuban would have done if the Dallas Mavericks had been on the receiving end of that non-call. His fine might have made it into seven figures.

But this is all Brown had to say:

"The officials get paid a lot of money, and that's their job. If they don't see anything, they don't see anything. We're a no-excuse team. We've got to get ready for Game 3."

I pressed Brown on the matter by telling him I wasn't looking for an excuse, just a description of how that final James possession looked from where he was standing.

"LeBron drove the ball. He shot it, he missed it. Larry [Hughes] got the rebound, he shot it, he missed it. Andy [Anderson Varejao] tipped it, they came up with the rebound and we fouled them," Brown said.

So why did you get so upset?

"Just emotions. Tough game."

Maybe Brown expressed everything he wanted when he drew a technical foul with one second left, walking on the court to complain. That move is going to merit an explanation Friday, because think about it, when's the last time you saw a coach take a tech in a one-point conference finals game with one second left?

I also asked James about the play in question and what he was shouting at the referees when play stopped.

"That's over and done with. Me and the ref had a good conversation, and I've moved on as a player."

Maybe I'm barking up the wrong tree here, but where the heck is the indignation? By my count Hamilton slapped James on the arms three or four times when he was making his drive to the hoop, and that's not even counting the contact he took on the shot. If you wanted to be totally technical, there were probably five different instances of contact on which fouls could have been called.

Compared to Dirk Nowitzki's touch foul against Dwyane Wade in Game 5 of the NBA Finals last year, this was an absolute mugging.

I can understand the Cavs not wanting to be seen as a team that complains about the referees publicly, but there's a way to get your point across without crossing the line.

What if Brown had said this: "I thought Hamilton fouled him three or four times, and I can't understand why the referees didn't call it, because I could see it plain as day from 50 feet away, and I only have two eyes. They have six. But what's done is done, and we're not going to blame the referees for this loss. We blame ourselves."

At least he would have been stating the obvious instead of acting like someone who feared the wrath of David Stern so much he was afraid to speak out.

And besides, complaining about a bad call or a non-call is not tantamount to making an excuse. They're two totally different things.

The Cavs had a right to be angry, and I felt Brown had an obligation to at least show a little emotion. If he wanted to go ballistic and spend $50,000 getting it off his chest, that would have been acceptable, too.

I just didn't like the whole specter of the Cavs slinking off into the night looking like they were almost afraid to stand up for themselves.

They got robbed, and either their coach or their superstar should have found a way to say so. Instead, they came off as being meek. And at this stage of the season, it is not time to be a pushover. It's time to stand up for yourself and state the truth, and if it costs you $50,000, so be it. At least the refs will hear your message, and the next time it happens you'll probably get the call.

It's called working the refs, and the best coaches do it when circumstances call for it. And on this night, Brown should have piped up more than he did.

Chris Sheridan wastes time writing false drama for ESPN Insider. To e-mail Chris, click here.

Balloonsface
05-25-2007, 08:35 AM
Who in the hell is Chrissy Sheriden, the refs were allowing muggings all night long. If they had called a foul on that play it would have been a travesty. I'm not saying it wasn't a foul by definition of the rules, but in that game at that moment no way was it a foul. If fouls were called by the definition of the rules then Varejo would average about 12 minutes of PT a night.

Glenn
05-25-2007, 08:47 AM
THE CAVS NEED TO STOP THE FUCKING WHINING!!

YOU DO NOT GET THAT CALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE.




Also, was it me or did Danny Ferry go apeshit on Mike Brown as he was walking off the court?

Also, I think the Cavs will fire Mike and hire Larry.

Brown, that is.

Big Swami
05-25-2007, 09:17 AM
The rule of thumbs for refs is not "call what is most likely a foul." The rule is "call what you can definitely observe is a foul." Furthermore, not all contact is supposed to be whistled. The only contact that is actually illegal in the game is the kind of contact that's used to create an unfair advantage - pushoffs, for example.

Any game where you see all kinds of contact being called, or if there are tons of very debatable calls on things like goaltending, it tells you one of two things: first, that the officials are not doing their jobs; second, Dick Bavetta might be on the court.

EDIT: Balloonsface, that is the best sig I have ever seen.

Fool
05-25-2007, 09:24 AM
Lebron is shit from the line in the clutch. He's better off not getting the call. If I were guarding him on that play I'd have Laimbeered his ass and then laughed in his face all through his free throw brick session.

darkobetterthanmelo
05-25-2007, 09:24 AM
Go on the front page of ESPN.com, the results by state of "did lebron get fouled?" are hilarious. We seem to be in the minority...

Fool
05-25-2007, 09:30 AM
http://espn.go.com/i/columnists/sheridan_chris_m.jpg
Maxiell eats babies.

micknugget
05-25-2007, 09:33 AM
It's all a bunch of crap anyways. After Lebron missed or even if we say that he was fouled, Hughes got the rebound and missed a jumper and then Varejo missed the tip. The Cavs lost, plain and simple, end of story.

Fool
05-25-2007, 09:38 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sTAMUZxfZA



Cavaliers game day

NBA hits LeBron with flagrant foul

Late call lets Cavs star avoid ejection in Game 1

By Brian Windhorst and George M. Thomas

Beacon Journal sportswriters

AUBURN HILLS, MICH. - Forget about all the focus on LeBron James and his decision to pass at the end of Game 1. It turns out that the Cavaliers were fortunate that he was even playing in the fourth quarter. According to the rules, James should've been ejected late in the third quarter.
The NBA made no official announcement, but a league official confirmed Thursday that after a video review, NBA Senior Vice President Stu Jackson charged James with a flagrant foul-penalty 2 on a play with 1:20 left in the third quarter Monday night. Had it been called at the time, James would have been ejected.

-sTAMUZxfZA
There was no fine announced, but the usual for flagrant-2 is $5,000. Jackson could've suspended James for Game 2, but decided against it.
As James was following through on a jump shot, he elbowed Detroit Pistons center Chris Webber in the head with his right arm. Webber crashed to the floor. There was no foul called by the three game officials.

The maneuver was almost exactly the same as the two elbows Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant was suspended for during the season. As Bryant was falling after releasing jump shots on both occasions, he swiped at Manu Ginobili of the San Antonio Spurs and Marko Jaric of the Minnesota Timberwolves. He was suspended after each, with the NBA calling it ``an unnatural basketball act.''

Webber said he didn't feel James intended to hurt him on the play.
``I had jumped up there with him, and we made contact,'' Webber said before Game 2. ``I didn't think he did it on purpose.''

Though there was some chatter about the play on Internet sites and a clip was posted on YouTube, there was almost no media scrutiny of the play. Instead, all were reviewing James' decision to pass to Donyell Marshall with five seconds left.

Had the clip been replayed as often as Bryant's elbows, especially the one against Jaric after his first suspension, the NBA might have felt pressure to issue the same penalty.

More Z, please
There weren't a lot of offensive highlights for the Cavs in Game 1, with center Zydrunas Ilgauskas being the exception, scoring 22 points and grabbing 13 rebounds. ESPN analyst and former NBA coach Hubie Brown couldn't be happier that Ilgauskas played a prominent role.

``Centers can't pass the ball to themselves. When you have a center who can shoot like that, he keeps the defense honest, forces double teams, and you can't foul him,'' Brown said Thursday night. ``He's the total package.''

Brown said that, if he were the Cavs' coach, he wouldn't worry about the infamous last shot from the other night or Ilgauskas. Right now, guard play is the club's primary worry, he said.

As for James, he said that he feels sorry for the superstar, because right now he's not getting a lot of help.

``Every shot is a difficult shot for him,'' Brown said.

Z's big night
Ilgauskas said his performance in Game 1 pleased him, but he's not expecting to get some of the same wide-open looks the caused his eyes to bulge Monday night.

``I'm not going to try to score like that. I got some good looks,'' he said. ``I do the stuff that helps the team win.''

Dribbles
Cavs coach Mike Brown wasn't really up on news of the NBA Draft Lottery from Tuesday night. He has heard the names Greg Oden and Kevin Durant, and when informed they would likely be heading to Western Conference teams, he could barely contain his glee.

``I haven't watched those guys a lot, but people tell me they're impact players,'' he said. ``I'm just glad they're impacting the West first.''

YouTube inside a quote. That's next level shit right there.

Cross
05-25-2007, 09:45 AM
thanks for the pictures matt.

Billups needs to take care of the ball, damn school i missed the game

Uncle Mxy
05-25-2007, 10:46 AM
Highlights are marred by LBJ's dunks, but we get to see some Maxiell :D
Seeing Sheed get into the game from the sidelines like that is awesome!

Matt
05-25-2007, 01:05 PM
THE CAVS NEED TO STOP THE FUCKING WHINING!!

YOU DO NOT GET THAT CALL WITH THE GAME ON THE LINE.




Also, was it me or did Danny Ferry go apeshit on Mike Brown as he was walking off the court?

Also, I think the Cavs will fire Mike and hire Larry.

Brown, that is.

I did see Mike Brown go at it with someone, I thought it was a fan. Didn't realize that was Ferry...

Big Swami
05-25-2007, 01:27 PM
On a another note. Chrissy Sheriden sees this as a chance to start up as much propaganda as possible..

I wrote him back. I had nothing to do for 20 minutes.


Look, I'm not going to lay a bunch of homer garbage on you. Did Rip Hamilton foul Lebron? Probably; hard to tell, but it seemed like it might have been called that way. However, you need to calm down about this. Officials do not like to blow the whistle to decide the game. The refs are not supposed to whistle everything that looks like contact, they are supposed to whistle clear fouls with evident intent. At home or on the road, it's very debatable whether Lebron would have gotten that call.

And frankly, you in particular should be especially circumspect when it comes to reporting what Detroit Pistons players do.

http://www.aolsportsblog.com/2007/01/19/rasheed-wallace-hates-chris-sheridan-not-flip-saunders/

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 01:46 PM
I wrote him too. Was too tired to remember what I said, but I do remember it had something to do with him basically saying it's wrong to show good sportsmanship. I mean he expressed outrage over the fact that the coach and a star player whose super famous both took the high road and set a good example for younger people imo. I remember Wade's classless ass whining himself sideways about rip hamilton doing that "bumping stuff" and swearing that it wasn't defense, but hacking after he lost. But would be the first one to be offended when Dirk put the blame on himself rather than the heat for losing the title.

Lebron and mike Brown helped the propaganda by bitching so hard during the game. But for a reporter to call them out for not whining is low ball attempts to increase false drama in this series and proof of sheridan's lack of ability to come up with anything worth a shit in the article department. I highly doubt he's expressing outrage over Lebron not getting suspended for popping webber in the mouth.

Big Swami
05-25-2007, 02:30 PM
All of that is 100% true.

Furthermore, Simmons > Sheridan.

UxKa
05-25-2007, 03:27 PM
I should have included this in my 'calming words' post, but at halftime I did a bit of channel flipping and on Discovery they were rerunning the 'Dirty Jobs' episode with the alpacas. It continued into the third quarter when we made our run. Nuff said.

Higherwarrior
05-25-2007, 03:39 PM
nice win and nice to be up 2-0. but if we don't play significantly better in cleveland, we'll get blown out and come back to detroit tied at 2-2.

i hope we pull our socks up and guys like billups and prince can have better offensive performances, leading us to a 3-0 lead. we really can't afford for this series to go 6 or 7 games or we'll lose to the spurs like we did in 2005.

WTFchris
05-25-2007, 04:01 PM
So Sheridan is bitching about RIP's no call when Lebron pulled a Kobe?

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 04:33 PM
So Sheridan is bitching about RIP's no call when Lebron pulled a Kobe?
He goes a step further imo. Basically calling out Lebron and Mike Brown for not bitching after the game. Then says Rip was "cackling" when he said there wasn't a foul. Just tried to stretch that thing as far as it'll go and then some.

micknugget
05-25-2007, 04:36 PM
nice win and nice to be up 2-0. but if we don't play significantly better in cleveland, we'll get blown out and come back to detroit tied at 2-2.

i hope we pull our socks up and guys like billups and prince can have better offensive performances, leading us to a 3-0 lead. we really can't afford for this series to go 6 or 7 games or we'll lose to the spurs like we did in 2005.

The way that the Pistons have played the last five games, even if we do get past Cleveland, San Antonio will kick our butts. They are playing really well and we are playing like crap. We may very well be lucky to get past the Cavs if a few players don't break out of their slumps.

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 04:37 PM
nice win and nice to be up 2-0. but if we don't play significantly better in cleveland, we'll get blown out and come back to detroit tied at 2-2.

i hope we pull our socks up and guys like billups and prince can have better offensive performances, leading us to a 3-0 lead. we really can't afford for this series to go 6 or 7 games or we'll lose to the spurs like we did in 2005.
I think Prince is just gonna have to suck, he's just too worried about guarding Lebron and honestly he should be. What i think will help is giving him a longer rest with Delfino. Delfino has honestly been solid in his absence on defense and offensively its been about even with prince slumping. So I say get him more rest.

Also Delfino's going to get more open looks, because he gets alot less respect. He dropped them last night. If he can keep doing so, we'd put some serious pressure on the Cavs defense to actually guard him on the perimeter. .

Micknugget dont judge the next series by this one. Its a whole set of different matchups and lets not forget players like Parker have all types of troubles against billups. He doesnt have the length of hughes or the willingness to be physical with CBill like Gibson. Either way they are probably looking ahead too far, which is what we're doing until we see 4 wins for us in this series.

b-diddy
05-25-2007, 05:13 PM
i couldnt really tell from listening on the radio, but it looked to me like lebron traveled on the play, maybe twice. probably not though since no one has mentioned it.

micknugget
05-25-2007, 05:55 PM
I didn't see the travel but I did see the initial off arm to get some seperation and then the off arm knocking Rip backwards. I saw it as a great no call.

Tahoe
05-25-2007, 08:19 PM
Some people dumped on sheed for leaving Marshall open, but we wouldnt of even been in that scenario if he hadn't blocked 7 shots and played a heck of a game. Seeing what he was doing tonight, I think he's been the mvp so far this series.


Thank you. Sheed takes so much shit here and other boards. I could only imagine if Sheed was playing like Tay or Bill in the first game.

Timone
05-25-2007, 08:24 PM
I love 'Sheed, I just call it tough love. He's the only reason we've been getting attention from anyone the past 3-4 years.

Fool
05-25-2007, 08:24 PM
You don't have to imagine. You can just remember. He's had plenty of shitty performances which is why he gets plenty of shit. That said, he's still the coolest motherfucker on this team and ultra-talented.

Cross
05-25-2007, 08:45 PM
No way did Hamilton even touch LeBron. Cavs had a chance to take the lead but Hughes cant hit a jumper to save his life.

Tahoe
05-25-2007, 08:49 PM
He's had plenty of shitty performances which is why he gets plenty of shit. .

There ya go. It never ends for my boy. He's always singled out.

As for the call/no call, The reason the Cavs lost wasn't the last play, it was that they only scored 26pts(?) in the second half and Mr Primadonna decided to keep his mug on the tube by dribbling the ball out top instead of going to the hoop. And I think they had 5 turnovers in a row coming down the stretch.

Hey they might come back and win 4 of 5 against us and have the greatest comeback and collapse in BBall history, but either way, Fuck a Cav.

Fool
05-25-2007, 09:03 PM
You brought him up "pops".

Timone
05-25-2007, 09:10 PM
http://www.geocities.com/Colosseum/Loge/7346/

My favorite one:
# Quoted from Cameron locker room as saying "There's going to be a murder in Chapel Hill" following a question about upcoming State rematch in 1995. The ill-timed quote came in the aftermath of the Wendell Williamson shooting on Henderson Street.

Black Dynamite
05-25-2007, 09:21 PM
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a372/ddot313/wall2wall.jpg

Tyanks for the Wallpaper material Maxiell

Tahoe
05-25-2007, 09:44 PM
You brought him up "pops".

Nope, son, I didn't.

Thats a great site Timbeau.

Matt
05-27-2007, 01:52 PM
Big game for Cavs tonight. Going down 3-0 is, well, ask the Bulls. 2-1 could give them some life and give the Pistons flashbacks of last season.

I haven't seen the Pistons play nearly as sharp as they did during the Bulls series. I hope Tayshaun gets back into the groove tonight. Same goes for Chauncey.

Timone
05-27-2007, 08:36 PM
The offense (or lack thereof) has been scaring me a lot this series.


And never have I been more pissed at Smooth.

Cross
05-27-2007, 08:46 PM
Get the ball to Rasheed and TAKE CARE OF THE FUCKING BALL. GEEZ 4 TURNOVERS ALREADY?

Cross
05-27-2007, 08:50 PM
We look lost on offense right now. Webber is acting like the point guard of the team right now, no one is setting rip any screens and has like 2 touches, one resulting in a turnover because no one comes to the ball.
We cant win if we keep playing like this especially with the Cavs not missing anything

Cross
05-27-2007, 08:56 PM
WEBBER!!!! hes playing IN THE POST. Doing a good job getting the offensive boards and what not.

and tay needs to hit his 2 foot jumpers or whatever.

I see rip has been taken out for Flip. COME ON FLIP

Timone
05-27-2007, 08:56 PM
lmfao @ Sheed's foul call reaction.


This is how C-Webb's playing:

*back down, back down, turns, hook, good* "AND STAY AWAY FROM TYRA!" *jogs back down on defense, snarls*

Timone
05-27-2007, 08:59 PM
For the love of God DO NOT GET AWAY FROM GIVING WEBBER THE BALL!!

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:01 PM
Looking alive on offense because of Webber.

btw does anyone know who the guy in the white suit on our bench is? my quality is really bad

Timone
05-27-2007, 09:03 PM
Amir? Ronald Dupree? *hopefully Lindsey*

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:05 PM
yeah looks like amir.

no webber is on the bench!

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:08 PM
Dice looking alive too. hitting his jumper
OH FLIP MURRAY

Zekyl
05-27-2007, 09:12 PM
So I got to start a midnight shift at work at 9. Working 9 to 7am. I am SO pissed I don't get to see this game. All of my friends from college are Cavs fans so I'm hoping we can pull this out and I can give them a hard time.

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:17 PM
At this rate, LeBron is going to drop atleast 30 on us. he's BLOWING by us on fastbreaks but Tay's doing a good job contesting his shot while he posts up

Laxation
05-27-2007, 09:18 PM
Just watching Flip play, it got me thinking. He is actually a great team-member! Not only does he come on the floor and do what he should (score) but he is doing it without whinging.

Not once has there been any news of him whining because he is getting little to no time on the court.

It is totally not what I expected from him...

Timone
05-27-2007, 09:18 PM
I don't think it matters because for every point LeBron scores we have 5 different guys who can answer at any given time.

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:19 PM
This is Tay's quarter. Once LeBron gets taken out Tay's been hitting his shots.

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:22 PM
omfg what a pss by webber and a reverse jam by DICE!

Someone stop Gooden's hideous..wtf is that thing


our bench >>>>>>>>>> Cavs bench

Timone
05-27-2007, 09:29 PM
Yeah I've been saying it every time I see Drew. "WTF is that shit on the back of his head? Should I eat it out?"

Timone
05-27-2007, 09:35 PM
BTW I got to thinking for some reason...with Rashard Lewis opting out and Cleveland needing an outside scorer does anyone else see the Cavs going after him this offseason? That is of course if it's possible...

Cross
05-27-2007, 09:48 PM
With the money they just spent on hughes and Z a few summers ago, Im sure Ferry is kicking himself for this. Signing Rashard would mean that leBron would have to move to the 2 because Rashard aint strong enough to play the 4

Timone
05-27-2007, 09:57 PM
Or Rashard could play the 2.

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:01 PM
no way is he quick enough

SHEEEEEEEED good 3 pointer after a little scoring drought.

meanwhile Billups is struggling like no other

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:01 PM
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:03 PM
Watching Billups play this series is making me wonder if he's trying to play himself onto another team next season.

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:06 PM
Good run here. Dice is hitting his jumpers.

I think billups has more character than that. No way he shits on us, especially looking into how far we have gone.

wtf is up with the cavs fans wearing shirts that say beat detroit? Not even catchy, not cool.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:12 PM
Is there still anyone here who's not sure that Rasheed is our best player?

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:15 PM
Is there anyone else here who's not sure that Rasheed is our best player?

no doubt has he been the best player in the series, and the best of todays game so far. He's hitting shots when we need to giving momentum to our team...but no guard is willing to keep that up.

sheed looks likle he wants to kick varejoes ass

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:20 PM
sheed looks likle he wants to kick varejoes ass

I don't blame him. I hate that piece of shit.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:21 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Rasheed Wallace and Kevin Garnett are two of the most talented big men I've ever seen play the game (I only got into sports period like 3-4 years ago and Pistons basketball around winter '03-'04).

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:23 PM
lol Damon Jones.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:26 PM
Wow Chauncey...just...wow.




Pathetic.

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:32 PM
Wow Chauncey...just...wow.




Pathetic.

his fade just isnt working, neither is anything else

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:35 PM
Rip is sucking balls as well.

They need to pull their heads out of their asses and get back to playing like the conventional pick for best backcourt duo.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:37 PM
Rasheed has just been put into the Witness Protection Program.

Cross
05-27-2007, 10:37 PM
Hamilton has 4 fouls too...oh god lebron just posterized sheed

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:39 PM
Our guards are making me want to vomit. Fucking amazing...

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:40 PM
Last year all over again...


*so far*

MoTown
05-27-2007, 10:42 PM
I just want to remind you guy how cool LeBron is. I mean, in case you forget, he'll get a rebound and pose for you just to remind you how cool he is. He's even got a really cool snarl.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:42 PM
Yeah, ask Sheed...

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:45 PM
If Chris Webber of all people delivers in the clutch for us then we really are a team of destiny..

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:46 PM
I just want to remind you guy how cool LeBron is. I mean, in case you forget, he'll get a rebound and pose for you just to remind you how cool he is. He's even got a really cool snarl.

Thank you so much. I actually started paying attention to the team element of basketball and forgot just how fuckin cool he is. Man, he's so cool.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:47 PM
Did you see the way he was pointing to his muscles?


AND HE'S ONLY.22.YEARS.OLD.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Fuck LeBron.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Anyone know of a good hypnotherapy program so we can have Chauncey hypnotized into thinking every shot he takes is a 4th quarter game winner?

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:49 PM
Well we could always use whatever it is that's getting LeBron to make 4th quarter shots himself.

Someone should make an AIM chat or something.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:52 PM
I can't wait to hear about how LeBron James beat the Detroit Pistons all by himself in game 3 of the Eastern Confrence Finals for the next 14 years.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:54 PM
Still not over...as long as we don't take stupid shots like that Billups shot a few seconds ago.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:57 PM
OMFG WHAT A SHOT

FUCK IT MAN...IF WE GET A STOP, GO FOR THE WIN!!

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:58 PM
If LeBron makes some heroic shot here, I think I might never watch the NBA again.

Timone
05-27-2007, 10:59 PM
Fuck this Dwyane Wade wannabe cocksucker.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 10:59 PM
If LeBron makes some heroic shot here, I think I might never watch the NBA again.

Great.

Timone
05-27-2007, 11:02 PM
I hope LeBron drowns to death in man chowder, fucking bitch.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 11:02 PM
Even if the Pistons go onto win the championship, we'll still hear about LeBron in this game until Apocalypse.

Timone
05-27-2007, 11:05 PM
Yeah and we'll still hear about the fact he fought off the Antichrist all by himself too.

-NoQuarter-
05-27-2007, 11:06 PM
Chauncey and Rip should be absolutely fucking ashamed of themselves.

Timone
05-27-2007, 11:07 PM
Rip moreso than Chauncey, at least Billups arrived (albeit late).

Timone
05-27-2007, 11:07 PM
But whatever, this shit's over in 5. Seacrest out.

Cross
05-28-2007, 03:05 AM
ok so rip..wtf? He's barely getting any screens, very little movement frmo him..something is up?

Billups just took the wierdest shot but it went in, but he couldnt hit an open 3 in the first quarter when hes fresh?

I didnt even bother watching the rest of the game after gibson made his 3 but..did Sheed not get the ball???? webber kinda disappeared in the 4th..actually we all did, cept chauncey

Moodini31
05-28-2007, 03:19 AM
I can't wait to hear about how LeBron James beat the Detroit Pistons all by himself in game 3 of the Eastern Confrence Finals for the next 14 years.

I was saying the same thing after the game. Let the jerk fest begin. [smilie=bj.gif]

But I'm not worried. They made a bunch of whack-ass J's and we couldn't buy an open one. We'll be fine.

Timone
05-28-2007, 03:33 AM
Looks like my xanax is going to have to pull me through game 4. Anyway, why am I still up? Goodnight, love you all, Merry Christmas.

Uncle Mxy
05-28-2007, 09:44 AM
It's Memorial Day weekend. Lots of odd suckage can happen around a holiday, and I'm trying to not make too much of it. But this video really reminds me of Chauncey and Rip at the moment:

CNR8d7KqozY

Black Dynamite
05-28-2007, 03:31 PM
i thought we were better than last game, but still noth that good. also the adjustments on defense were atrocious. Its obvious that you have to put sheed or dale davis on Z. Dyess is not going to defend him.

Either way i expected to get hosed on more calls and lose the game. but atleast the refs had enough of verajo.

MoTown
05-28-2007, 05:20 PM
I was watching NBA Shootaround today and they were debating what "LeBron's best shot" was, and there were about three or four to choose from. I got to see the dunk over Sheed literally 10 times in a row, then they showed the jumper that iced the game 4 or 5 times, and then showed him dunking on Sheed again 4 more times in a row.

I figured you guys would appreciate that... especially you -NoQ-.

Timone
05-28-2007, 09:23 PM
Yeah well they needed something to keep people watching their shitty show.

Atticus771
05-29-2007, 01:40 AM
I really don't think LeBron is that good. Shocking, I know...

I hope he turns out to be just another T-Mac; a great individual player who can't handle it when everything is on the line. Honestly, I see that as a realistic possible. The media can only play the "he's only in his early 20s" card for so long. Eventually, he'll have to be a man, and I don't think he can handle it.

Timone
05-29-2007, 07:00 AM
"Come on, he's 40 years old! What more do you want from him?"

In other news Larry Hughes' chances playing in tonight's game are "slim" and "doubtful" so Chauncey should be able to at least play well enough tonight. Unless of course he's gonna let Damon Jones or Eric Snow lock him up.

Cross
05-29-2007, 07:38 AM
"Come on, he's 40 years old! What more do you want from him?"

In other news Larry Hughes' chances playing in tonight's game are "slim" and "doubtful" so Chauncey should be able to at least play well enough tonight. Unless of course he's gonna let Damon Jones or Eric Snow lock him up.

Or why not have Gibson? supposedly the easiest out of the 3. Too bad he always gets the ball knocked away when he tries to post up on him. And if he does manage to post him up, he misses his jumper, whats the point?

Glenn
05-29-2007, 08:58 AM
Hopefully our backcourt won't be hot garbage again tonight. You know it's bad when Flip Murray is your best backcourt performer.

The LeBrons made some amazing "no way" shots in game 3, hopefully that doesn't repeat itself in game 4.

I still think we can take these fools in 6, but I still would have rather played the Nets.

Black Dynamite
05-29-2007, 09:08 AM
What Lebron did was get hot. How he got hot? Too many damn layups and dunks. the help has to come out quicker and when gibson/jones combo is in the game, we gotta beat up on them. I still feel Billups can school Gibson in the post. But he has to stop trying to create contact and just shoot over him.

Glenn
05-29-2007, 09:10 AM
It seems like our entire team got a case of the butterfingers all of a sudden (especially Billups).

Maybe they touched one of Memo's old jerseys or something.

If I see Billups get the ball slapped away while he throws his arms up in the air one more time I might shit/puke simultaneously.

Timone
05-29-2007, 11:56 AM
Or why not have Gibson? supposedly the easiest out of the 3. Too bad he always gets the ball knocked away when he tries to post up on him. And if he does manage to post him up, he misses his jumper, whats the point?

I have a thing for bald me...err...pussies...err, I expect him to show up tonight and play like he's Chauncey fucking Billups.

metr0man
05-29-2007, 01:20 PM
you know, with San Antonio poised to knock off Utah, the possibility of an 05 repeat, where we roll into San Antonio with no damn rest, is very real.
Seriously if we go straight from a game 7 to SA with a day in between, and they're rested, good bye title.

This game right here might actually be the difference between a championship and... not. Really.

Zekyl
05-29-2007, 06:01 PM
Fuck, I hate everything metrOman just said, but its because I know its true. We need to stop pussyfooting around out there and just take care of our damn business!

Timone
05-29-2007, 06:30 PM
You know what? I have a pretty good memory and I remember the Pistons being up like 16-4 in game 1 vs. SA. The sad thing is if we sustained that we could've been going for our 3rd title in 4 years and establishing a dynasty.

Black Dynamite
05-29-2007, 07:22 PM
Sideshow Heartthrob

Cleveland coach Mike Brown says forward Anderson Varejao is popular with teenyboppers in northeastern Ohio, according to the Akron Beacon Journal.

That led writer Brian Windhorst to add that "over the last three years, I've gotten e-mails from members of the gay community who have professed their infatuation with the mop-topped Brazilian as well."

After also seeing female journalists ask Varejao what products he uses to make his hair so pretty, Windhorst deduced that "men want him and women want to be him."
[smilie=jaw-droppin: [smilie=thumbsdown.: [smilie=joker.gif] [smilie=rolleyes2.g:
[smilie=thatsfoul.g:

verajo playing defense.
[smilie=funnyguy.gi:

Timone
05-29-2007, 07:36 PM
I believe Christ said it best when he said "Fuck Anderson Varejao."

Tahoe
05-29-2007, 07:37 PM
You know what? I have a pretty good memory and I remember the Pistons being up like 16-4 in game 1 vs. SA. The sad thing is if we sustained that we could've been going for our 3rd title in 4 years and establishing a dynasty.


We were. We should have won that game, iirc. It seems we had a bunch of TO's too.

Edit...And I agree with Zekyl who agrees with Metroman. Very good point.

Timone
05-29-2007, 07:56 PM
Fuck these 20 minute pre game shows.

Tahoe
05-29-2007, 07:57 PM
Fuck these 20 minute pre game shows.

I agree. The Tigers are on for the next 15 or so.

Timone
05-29-2007, 08:07 PM
Yeah I'm tired of hearing Barkley's vague "analysis". Great player, don't know how the fucking idiot still has a job though..

Timone
05-29-2007, 08:17 PM
When does that idiot Ilgauskas ever make that hook?

micknugget
05-29-2007, 08:30 PM
Lebron just made a huge dunk and the commentatorws are sayign how awesome it was. TOO BAD HE FUCKING WALKED!!!!!!! KEEP SHOWING THE REPLAY SO EVERYONE CAN SEE IT ,ASSHOLES!!!!!!

Timone
05-29-2007, 08:31 PM
Wow that was a quick 8 minutes.


I love how Larry Hughes is trying to convince us he's not a bitch.

Tahoe
05-29-2007, 08:44 PM
I kind of like the higher scoring games, cuz we are obviously scoring, but we can generally make a defensive spurt and win the game.

Timone
05-29-2007, 08:49 PM
99-91 final score either way, put it front page...back page...99-91.


I liked that shot by Billups, I hope the miss doesn't discourage him and he keeps shooting.

Timone
05-29-2007, 08:52 PM
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MICHAEL JORDAN DOUG COLLINS!!