OT-Tigs up 10-1

Sheffield's killin' that whitey (the ball, racist).

I hope someone "accidently" breaks Varejao's nose.

Man...I've seen a couple of possessions by us that are 1 pass and a shot. Move the ball around a lil.

So LeBron is still Jordan and Daniel Gibson now has a little bit of Reggie Miller in him. Nice Doug...

Flip with a LBJ moment...passing the ball for a 3pter, when he prolly could have had a layup or drew a foul.

So LeBron is still Jordan and Daniel Gibson now has a little bit of Reggie Miller in him. Nice Doug...


lol

When Delfino is in the game, does he in fact know that he can participate in said game?
I'm glad that the guy who posted about Detroit's "one pass and a shot" offense is just now getting around to realizing it, since it is what they have done since they won the title.

Fucking 12 pts in the second quarter with 1:44 left?

The 2nd quarter has killed us all season, not surprised.

The good news is the Cavs are only making points on layups, jumpers and 3pters.

thisisajokebtw

omfg Lindsey.

all of the sudden we've scored 21 in the second. and hot damn, we're catching up.

I fucking hate working the afternoon shift. I've seen one game during the conference finals. ONE. And my girlfriend is in town this weekend, meaning I won't get to see any more. Fuck this. They'd better just finish this shit out!

I tivo games if i have to miss one, but rarely watch the whole game and most times don't even watch it at all. Its just not the same.

Wow, Chuck needs a tie or maybe a smaller neck.

Fuck you Geraldo.

How in the fuck do we get a guy mugged like that and we get one FT?

LOL @ the refs. LBJ getting a pansy foul. Ball caught on his hip and they give us a foul. What a joke?

These refs are giving me a migraine. I'm so sick of star treatment.


Fuck the NBA.

This experienced team is not looking like a experienced team

Please prove me wrong

And CBill with a quick 3 that we didn't need. A nicely run offensive play might have been what the doctor ordered right there.

WTF was Billups thinking on that shot?

CHAUNCY, WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU SHOOTING THAT 3 FOR?!

worst.....officiating.....ever.





alsochaunceysucksrightnow

I'm getting so sick of this shit. Our stagnant offense, missing jumpers, Gooden knocking down J's, Lebron's superstar calls, flexes, snarls, and Chauncey choking like a little bitch. The media makes it sound like we're this experienced juggernaut, and I think our players believe that too, but Cleveland looks much more poised than we do right now. I'm having flashbacks of last year, but this year, why do I get the feeling it's going to be a different result this time?

We screwed that pooch, fucking bigtime.

On the bright side:

Either we lose Chauncey and don't give a shit anymore or his price is plummeting and keeping him here will be easier.

We got jobbed twice tonight: by the refs, of course, on some awful calls (and some no-calls) and by our All-Star players (Chauncey, Rip, Webber).

Unfortunately, we shouldn't have to rely on the refs to make the right calls all the time. Our decision-making was very poor in crunch time, the defense was lax, and it just didn't look like anyone wanted this one besides Rasheed. We need to get back to playing Pistons ball, and really soon, or we'll endup in a 3-2 hole again, and I don't think we'd come out of it this time.

And can somebody slow down Gibson? Seriously. He is definitely not that good. There is no way he should be doing what he's doing against our All-Star guards. He isn't much of a ballhandler, yet we're making him look like Steve Nash out there.

I think it's time for a Guaransheed victory on Thursday night. I don't know if our guys think they can win anymore, and maybe it would light a fire under this sluggish team.

I have to disagree. Even Sheed who haas played well for most of the playoffs didn't have a very good game. There was only one Piston who really played worth a shit and that was Dice. In 24 minutes he hit 5 out of 9 shots for 12 points to go along with 5 boards and 2 blocks.

Micknugget, I agree that Sheed didn't play as well as he did for the first three games, but I think it was clear that he was trying hard to win it for us. The other guys consistently made bone-headed plays, and Sheed was working hard down on the block most of the game. I won't place any blame on him for this loss though. It was mostly Chauncey's fault. However, I can't imagine that his awful play will continue Thursday night.

We'll win game 5 but if this shit goes 7 I am turning on this team.

Missed the game...but I see the guards showed up kind of but the bigmen were out of it. Webber and Sheed were nothing like they were in game 3.

what happened between sheed and gooden? fuck godden i hate him.

Why is Billups getting so many damn turnovers? can he not handle gibson?

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6864560?MSNHPHMA

Great recap of last night's game.
Couldn't agree more with every word of this article, especially the part about Webber.
And Gooden is someone the Pistons might seriously start to consider guarding.

Seriously, every time someone passes the ball to that big retard, he's wide open and Sheed has to sprint across the court to guard. I saw it 3 fucking times last night and I knew how it was going to work out. I turned that shit off. I have it on tape and I will watch it today for the painful post-mortem.

I have it on tape and I will watch it today for the painful post-mortem.

Don't you have anything more pleasant to do, like pull your finger nails out?

Billups completely choked down the stretch. nothing but bad decisions the last 5 minutes of the game.

WTF is with Lebron pushing Billups in the back going for a loose ball and no call? Then Gibson steam rolls Billups on another loose ball and RIP gets called for reaching in on the same loose ball. Rediculous. Either let them play or call the fouls, but don't screw us over twice on loose balls in the last couple minutes. Then Brown is on the podium praising Snow for recovering a loose ball when we got completely hosed on two calls before Snow got it.

Seriously, every time someone passes the ball to that big retard, he's wide open and Sheed has to sprint across the court to guard. I saw it 3 fucking times last night and I knew how it was going to work out. I turned that shit off. I have it on tape and I will watch it today for the painful post-mortem.


The difference is that when the pistons trap/double Lebron he's both good enough and tall enough to pass over the double leaving guys open for shots.

When the Cavs trap Billups he's neither good enough or tall enough to break the trap and instead dribbles/passes away from the pressure. He's not good enough to create opportunities for his teammates.

I also don't buy that the refs lost this game for detroit. Cleveland was much more aggressive attacking the rim and were rewarded with free throws. The Pistons prefer to be lazy and jack up jumpers even on fast break opportunities.

I wonder if this team even understands playoff basketball. When Wade drove to the basket, he got the call. When Ginobili drives to the basket he shoots free throws. Lebron...same thing. Even Daniel freaking Gibson can figure this out, why not this club?

I also don't buy that the refs lost this game for detroit. Cleveland was much more aggressive attacking the rim and were rewarded with free throws. The Pistons prefer to be lazy and jack up jumpers even on fast break opportunities.

I wish I understood this myself. It's either bad coaching (telling them that the only good offense is a slow one) or horrible conditioning. I'm willing to acknowledge both.

Oh, and C-Webb is roadkill out there.

The LeBron off arm shoves were very frustrating, but I agree with the others here that have acknowledged that isn't where the game was lost.

I wouldn't have expected it, but they looked scared to me.

It's looking like turning the ball over is in their heads now, and that is causing them to turn it over even more.

Where did all of the ball movement go? Where did all of the assists go? What about swinging the ball from side to side? If you listen to LeBron talk, as sick as it makes me feel, he gets it. It's almost like he has been tutored by Larry Brown.

Wait, weren't our guys tutored by Larry Brown?

How soon they forget, it seems.

No matter how good Lebron may be, he still spends a few seconds looking for the cameras after every bucket, and for that he deserves to suffer defeat.

No matter how good Lebron may be, he still spends a few seconds looking for the cameras after every bucket, and for that he deserves to suffer defeat.

I know, I hate this shit. I don't care if the Spurs beat us (well, I do care), but I'm sick of this crap. He's starting to get as bad as Flexo with this posing for the camera and stupid faces. I actually liked him a couple years ago, but I can't stand him now. I also like Tim Duncan before he became a complainer. I like players that do their job and shut up. I'd probably hate the Pistons if I wasn't from the area now that they complain all the time.

I know, I hate this shit. I don't care if the Spurs beat us (well, I do care), but I'm sick of this crap. He's starting to get as bad as Flexo with this posing for the camera and stupid faces. I actually liked him a couple years ago, but I can't stand him now. I also like Tim Duncan before he became a complainer. I like players that do their job and shut up. I'd probably hate the Pistons if I wasn't from the area now that they complain all the time.

Yeah, especially with the dignified way Rasheed carries himself.

Lol. The thing about Sheed is that he doesn't pose for the camera. Celebrates, yes, but Lebron takes it to a new level by stopping and posing. I conside Sheed's antics simply a reaction, while Lebron's poses are much more calculated. I think Sheed runs his mouth to get in opponents heads and/or pump his team up. Much like Gary Payton ran his mouth. They don't do it for the camera IMO.

I see a bit of a conundrum for Flipper.

Webber isn't doing well, guys like Charley Rosen feel like he needs to be nailed to the bench.

Our ball movement sucks, and Webb is a big part of keeping the ball moving.

So do you keep Webber in and hope that he is going to be instrumental in reigniting the offense, or do you sit him down and go for the energy and defense of Maxiell?

will they finally decide to play like it was game 1 vs the Bulls?
i'm sooo annoyed with the way they've been playing since game 2 of ECSF.
everyone knows who's the better team, it really is the question of who'll show up.. :( i suppose i should be lucky not to have TNT at home.. *sigh

Why do I feel like we are down 2 games to none or down 3-1 or something.

As I watch these games I keep thinking...Is Cleveland this good or are we this bad? I mean we win most matchups other than LBJ and most of us feel Tay can slow LBJ. It seems we should be whoopin these guys, but it aint happenin. Frustrating!

Lol. The thing about Sheed is that he doesn't pose for the camera. Celebrates, yes, but Lebron takes it to a new level by stopping and posing. I conside Sheed's antics simply a reaction, while Lebron's poses are much more calculated. I think Sheed runs his mouth to get in opponents heads and/or pump his team up. Much like Gary Payton ran his mouth. They don't do it for the camera IMO.
That's why I never had a problem with Payton. It was part of his game, not some stupid act. James has gone commercial, just like 90% of the league. It makes me sick.

I swear to god, this is exactly what Lebron is thinking after every dunk:

Where are the cameras?

Over there?

No, over there.

Hi mom.

Hi mom.

Haven't you seen the tat?

It's "Gloria".

Why do I feel like we are down 2 games to none or down 3-1 or something.

As I watch these games I keep thinking...Is Cleveland this good or are we this bad? I mean we win most matchups other than LBJ and most of us feel Tay can slow LBJ. It seems we should be whoopin these guys, but it aint happenin. Frustrating!

can't stop leBron in a full court game, he's going to blow right by you for the dunk. Tay's doing the best he can but when we come for the double, players have to shift around and adjust, not just stand there

I think we're seeing a combination of Lebron being that good and the Pistons are starting to panic. Lebron isn't the cutthroat scorer as Kobe is, but his passing and willingness to give up the ball (while a flaw in some eyes) is second to none. Yes, the incessant posing and glaring is real annoying.

I still think we win this series and I think the Finals will be very competitive.

IMO, the key to winning this will be a more balanced attack. Bring in Max for some hustle rebounds and blocks (esp. at home). Bring in Lindsey for some pestering defense (esp. on Gibson). Bring in Delfino a different look against the Cav's D.

Marv Albert was talking about the "random offense" last night, half-jokingly, as if it were a real strategy. But it's really exposing a profound problem on this team if you look at it this way: no one has an answer for Cleveland, so we just keep trying weird shit, hoping something works.

It's a little late to finish your lab work, guys.

No shit.

Where's this superhyperparobolic playbook?

My favorite of all the neat-o Cavelbron posing times was when Gibson collapsed like he was shot after Rip touched him with his pinkie on a three pointer. Then he proceeded to thump himself on the chest while laying on the court as if to say:

"I SURVIVED RIP'S PINKIE FINGER TOUCH OF DEATH!!!@# NO ONE IS MORE BADASS THAN ME!!!!"

Also, sup?

Well, holysheepshit.







alsopleasestay

hey TK, good to see ya.

hey TK, good to see ya.

Hey man. Good to be back.

Hey man. Good to be back.

now, go fix the Pistons, dammit!

[smilie=jefffoster.:

now, go fix the Pistons, dammit!

[smilie=jefffoster.:

Clearly they need to grow their hair out and launch themselves all over the gym whenever a Cav gets anywhere near them.

Such is today's NBA. Thanks, Davey.

http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/5813/ginobilimanufinals3nx7.jpg

"Yes."

Sucks that douche is gonna get his third ring.

Just say the word. I "know people."

"fundamental atheists"? Those are some harsh motherfuckers.

The only thing that's giving me hope is the fact this kid isn't as beautiful as Dwyane Wade.

Oh who am I kidding, I don't know anyone. I live in a van down by the river.

http://www.indium.com/_images/0104/jeff_spicoli.jpg

You know him?

Clearly they need to grow their hair out and launch themselves all over the gym whenever a Cav gets anywhere near them.

Such is today's NBA. Thanks, Davey.
That should have been a clause in Delfino's contract. As the young foreign guard, he has to grow his hair out and fall all over the place, even if no one is remotely near him. Someone runs by you? Let the wind knock you down, maybe he'll get a call for "potential wind erosion"

At this point I don't even hate LeBron as much as I hate ESPN's love-hate relationship with him as well as other star athletes. I do hate him a lot though...


(I really like every player when they're not playing the Pistons)

15 more hours until the biggest game of the season. Thus far anyway.

Is anybody else surprised that Game 5 hasn't been Guaransheeded? (sp?)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Guaransheed

Also, gotta love this headline from the Trib: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/cs-070531nbalebronjamescavs,1,7451879.story?coll=cs-home-headlines

I really hate the word "Guaransheed." It's right up there with "surge" and "pandemic."

But yeah, I am surprised. It's the type of thing this team WOULD do with the way they've been acting.

I really hate the word "Guaransheed." It's right up there with "surge" and "pandemic."

That stuff was nasty.

Geez, the swaying of opinions has been ridiculous this post season.

The Pistons cruise through the first two rounds: they're amazing. Steve Kerr thinks they can win it all. we're all imagining a red carpet to the Finals.

Lebron has two bad games: he's a choker. he's overrated. he's not clutch. he's not on the same level as MJ.

Lebron has two good games: he's on a date with destiny. he's cementing his place in NBA history. all hail king james.

Pistons lose two straight: they're old. they're arrogant. the team has too many flaws. they'll be lucky to win this series. trade for kobe.

The opinions have swayed from the fans too. But rightfully so. Think about the lack of consistency in their play. They sweep OMag, play great for 2 or maybe 2 1/2 games vs the Bulls, but since then they have barely showed up.

If a team is that inconsistent, to me you don't have the correct coach to kick these guys in the ass. These guys were mostly all together b4 flip got here and had won a title. This is no slight on Flip, more on the players.

I'm not saying we're at this point yet, but its normally a helluva lot easier to change coaches than change players.

my opinion has not swayed. even when winning, we have yet to play near our capabilities. if we do not significantly raise our level of play, we might not even make the finals.

and if we do, the spurs will manhandle us. i love this team and i'm trying to be optimistic we'll play through all of this and prevail in the end.

but it is hard to imagine us beating the spurs at this rate. yes, the cavs are improved and james is a great player. but seriously- we are miles better than this team and the fact that we've nearly lost all 4 games and not had a lead greater than 5 points the whole series, just shows how this team is never going to fulfill its potential.

we should be preparing to close out this series and put a beating on the cavs tonight. instead, we're fighting to gain control of the series. i appreciate james is a very good player but he is NOT as great as he's being made out to be, and we should be well in control of this series.

honestly, the cavs have done nothing to impress me at all. once again, we're just playing down to our competition. i only hope we play UP to the spurs level if we're fortunate enough to advance. they'll be well rested and hungry for their 4th title....

sorry for my tone, but i'm just sick and tired of our great pistons team underachieving and digging holes for themselves to try and climb out of. we definitely have the team to be the best and win another title. but sadly, i fear we will fall short and will not fulfill our potential due to our mental approach to the game.

Get 'er done, Pistons.

Time for the first blow out this series.

YOU CAN DO IT!!!

http://www.cineol.net/images/noticias/Cameos/Waterboy_2.jpg

We need the Pistons to come out swinging and bash a fucking crown into someone's fucking skull.

LOL Lebron goes after one of the Pistons and JMax gets right in his face, would have been a beatdown of epic proportions. On the downside, Dice is ejected with a flagrant 2.

We need the Pistons to come out swinging and bash a fucking crown into someone's fucking skull.

Well........we were all hoping.

Wow. They threw out Dice. What a bunch of horseshit.

LOL @ LBJ who was running to the dust up till Max introduced himself. LBJ kind of stopped in his tracks.

LOL @ LBJ who was running to the dust up till Max introduced himself. LBJ kind of stopped in his tracks.

I think he got stopped rather than just stopped. BS on Dice though, flagrant 1 OK, 2 no.

When this game started and TNT showed the ref crew for tonight, I thought, "Oh no! Bennet Salvatore!" Looks like my concern was reasonable. Only Bennet would be enough of an idiot to call that a Flagrant 2.

Varejao is just a big flopper. The end.

Edit: LOL at LeTravel coming over and being stopped dead in his tracks by Maxy. Too bad he didn't challenge Max by taking a swing at him or something.

I missed about a half an hour, what happened to Dice?


EDIT: Nevermind.

Great, FT shooting to put my ass back to sleep.

Tim, Dice took Side Show Bob down on a semi-hard foul. The Floppster sold it for all it was worth.

I'm thinking of a new sig... If only I had Photoshop installed.

Too bad his head didn't bounce off the fucking floor.

I can't believe Barkley doesn't agree with a tech on "Gay Porn" King James. Wait, yes I can.

I can't believe the TNT guys were talking about a suspension for Dice. If he is suspended, that's a bunch of bull. He didn't do anything to merit a suspension. However, I think that would get our guys fired up enough.

Ya know what? Forget about it. They can suspend Dice all they want. This series is over in six. You heard it here first.

Someone make a banner having to do with LeBron and gay porn (but keep it clean enough for a sig), thanks. And make sure you put "King James" on it.

"That was Kobe, he changed his mind again"...about time Barkley said something that was actually funny.

"You heard it here first."

^^Nope. Rod Allen called it earlier in the Tigers game.

Any time a flagrant 2 is called, there's a suspension possibillty, especially in today's league -- No Balls Allowed

That was a flagrant 1 at worst... bullshit call.

Oh shat, Billups is feeeeeling it.

"You heard it here first."

^^Nope. Rod Allen called it earlier in the Tigers game.

I tried.

What a reverse jam by Tay!

Good lord, THUNDEROUS~!

And a Maxiell block!

Curse Gibson! And nice shot to end the quarter, even if it didn't count.

I like how Debbie Gibson thinks she's the shit after making that 3 there.

PORTLAND 'SHEED.

Is there a single person on this board seated right now?

FUCKKK!!!!

tie game, last possession: shoot a three.

Great decision making by our "leader"

Defintely not. This is unbelievable.

Off Sheed's knee?

Bron crying for an and one? What a douche!

This is going to be tight the way the officials have called this one. They just might be able to give it to LeBron despite Chauncey's big three pointer.

I'm going to have a heart-attack.

I think Chauncey was afraid of getting stripped and not getting the call setting up some heroic LeBron play.

This shit ain't good on my anxiety.

Panic attack! ahhh fuck!

I can't handle this anymore.

I may cry if we lose. No shame in that, right?

None at all, I will too. It's OK for rape victims to cry.

HEY YOU FUCKING COCKSUCKING REFS, THERE'S 1:20 LEFT IN OT AND THERE'S VERY LITTLE CONTACT...EVER HEAR OF A NO CALL AND LETTING TEAMS ACTUALLY PLAY?

We are a fucking joke.

Fucking no offense, no drive...I don't know what the hell happened to this team.

The NBA and the Detroit Pistons can suck my fucking cock and LeBron can swallow my load.

I'd still rather get swept by the Spurs than lose to these cocksuckers.

Officials gave them this one. Gift-wrapped and all.

the end of a beautiful run is always sad

"One of the great postseason performances of all time" - Marv Albert

Yeah, way to go refs.

Better be some big changes come next season.

Cleveland has played every game like they wanted it. We didn't.

Yea the refs suck, but we aren't even playing like we want this thing.

How many time do you let a guy drive the lane and get a slam and then we come down dribble the ball for a while and then take a 3 cuz we're too fucking lazy to work for a better shot.

This is on us, not the refs.

Oh my gosh. Still a great chance.

Cleveland has played every game like they wanted it. We didn't.

Yea the refs suck, but we aren't even playing like we want this thing.

How many time do you let a guy drive the lane and get a slam and then we come down dribble the ball for a while and then take a 3 cuz we're too fucking lazy to work for a better shot.

This is on us, not the refs.

Disagree completely. The refs won't let us play defense.

The revenge factor is a cunt. We saw it with Miami last season and now with Cleveland this year. Imagine what the Bulls will do to us next season assuming we meet in the postseason again...

"One of the great postseason performances of all time" - Marv Albert

Yeah, way to go refs.

The refs have fucked us in this series, no doubt. But it's no excuse. Take a look at our team, and take a look at theirs. They are maybe one of the most garbage teams to ever make it to an Eastern Conference Finals. It makes no sense logistically. We should be blowing them out, despite whatever the refs do to help. We are that much better than them talent wise. It should never come down to games this close.

AHHHHHH!!!

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?! There must be a God. :/

The refs have fucked us in this series, no doubt. But it's no excuse. Take a look at our team, and take a look at theirs. They are maybe one of the most garbage teams to ever make it to an Eastern Conference Finals. It makes no sense logistically. We should be blowing them out, despite whatever the refs do to help. We are that much better than them talent wise. It should never come down to games this close.


No, I agree they are playing a lot better than us actually.

We don't even drive the lane to give the refs a chance to call a foul on them. All we do is take jumpers.

I never thought I'd say this but WE MISS BEN WALLACE! Our interior D is soft as hell. We are soft.

Tim, there is a God. His name is Jesus Christ of Nazareth. I prayed, "Please Lord," and look what happened. :)

We miss Larry Brown.

We miss Larry Brown.

They miss their testicles.

We miss Larry Brown.

Thank you.

I said that in another thread somewhere. And that is not meant to be a slight on Flip. I don't think this team respects him.

I am. Detroit led 88-81 with 3:15 to go, and gets only the Billups three pointer in the last few minutes, outscored 10-3.
LeBron has reached the point where you can't touch him, and Detroit has reached the point where they are old and tired.

I miss my mind. That panic attack has got me all fucked up.


If we win ESPN is gonna talk more about LeBron's 50 point game than his stupid shot with a 2 pt lead at the end of OT.

Even if we win this game, I still say we played shitty. And this makes about 6 out of 7 shitty played games

Pavolovic is taking over!!!!


LMFAO

I'll tell you what, no matter what I may say about LeBron during the course of the game...it's all out of frustration (well, not the ref shit). He has truly earned my respect after tonight's game. I did not think he could do this on the road at the Pistons' gym, making tough shots and doing it in the clutch no less. He's proven me wrong.

I respect LeBron's ability to hit tough shots. I don't respect his whining nor the crazy man-love the refs give to him.

Neither do I, but that comes with the territory being the face of the lig and all.

Win or lose this game/series, I am still gonna be pissed PROBABLY moreso with the attitude of the Pistons players regarding their opponents.

GROUND BREAKING EDIT: C-WEBB!

Fucking Prince's breaff ought to really stink by now after having his head up his ass for so long.

Agree on LBJ. And I hate friggin verajo. But he was up Sheeds ass most of the game. Every time sheed would get a board, Verajo was there slapping at it. They ALL hustled on the Cleveland side. We did in little spurts.

Oh no doubt, Verajao needs to go fuck off and die somewhere (preferrably in my backyard so I can piss on his remains).

ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME? AHHH DAMNIT.

WHAT A GAME WHAT A GAME WHAT A GAME.


LBJ, regardless of the refs giving him the penis, is giving forth the best performance vs. the Pistons I've ever seen. Fuck.

I'm so sick of the fade-away jumpers that we take. LBJ takes them too, but they drive to the hoop too.

LOL @ The Pistons.

Yeah you're telling me, 'Sheed has been rushing so many shots tonight. And I will NOT give Varajao credit.

I'm smelling NJ-DET '04 game 5 all over again. Great.

LOL @ The Pistons.

WHAT A FUCKING JOKE to give up a fucking LAYUP in that situation. lol

Flip needs to be fired immediately.

Billups. Big shot Billups. Yup.

You think LBJ blow jobs were many before? Just watch after this game.

Fuck this team.

Sorry guys, I'm rooting for Cleveland in game 6. I've had it up to here with this piece of shit overrated team. I can't believe I was one of the sheep who believed something like the acquisition of Chris Webber could help win this team a title. Win OR lose.

Flip Saunders is to blame for this loss. How many times can you get burned by man to man defense like that? Fucking stupid. Go zone and double Lebron. Dammit Flip you are a fucking idiot some times.

Sometimes? I'd say about 99% of the time when the pressure is on like this.

I still can't believe some of those calls by the officials. We lost fair and square, but some of those calls were just beyond terrible.

If this is the end, it's been a great ride.

I'm sooooo goddamn sick of Chauncey. Most inconsistent motherfucker I've ever seen. When he's on his game, he looks like the best PG in the league. Too bad when he's off, he's not even mediocre. I will not miss him at all if he's gone next year. Not at all. (and no this is not just an overreaction to this series, I've felt this way about him for the past 4 years.)

Ive never been one to overly blame the refs for a loss, but I put this on them. Dice should not have been ejected. Late in the 4th or early in OT Lebron pushes off Chauncey hard enough for him to fall down, around the 3-point line... and two seconds later he drives and gets a ghost call giving him free throws. We had our chances to win, but the refs gave the Cavs their chances to win.

Big Shot Billups can't even get a fucking floater to go, a shot even motherfucking TAYSHAUN PRINCE could make.

Fuck this. Fuck this.

Billups, take your "Big Shot" flailing somewhere else and trade Rasheed. Let's start over.

There's no excuse being up 8 with 3 minutes to go and losing the game. Fuck.

Of course, we might win the next two games.

But it's not likely.

Flip needs to be fired immediately.

i have it on good authority that flip is a good human being, so he'll drive this team off a cliff before penny pincher gives him the axe.

besides, im not sure theres another coach we could downgrade to, so whats the point?

I'm not sure where to go from here. Coach? Let CBill go and trade Sheed like Mick Nugget said, I have no idea, but at this point, I don't want the same roster and coach again next year. Something needs to change.

I can't believe I welcomed Flip Saunders with open arms in summer '05.

The era of winning a championship without a superstar is long over. We need to adjust to it or keep watching one man teams beat us.

Fuck this. Fuck this.

Billups, take your "Big Shot" flailing somewhere else and trade Rasheed. Let's start over.

There's no excuse being up 8 with 3 minutes to go and losing the game. Fuck.

Of course, we might win the next two games.

But it's not likely.

i heard the spurs have already planned their championship parade for THIS weekend. does it really matter if we somehow, miraculously, pull it together and steal a series win? it'd probably be better to lose on a smaller stage than watch the spurs railroad us for four games.

DEFENSE wins championships. And we didn't do it again tonight.

We got flat out punked and intimidated I think. The defense fell apart, how many open dunks and layups did Lebron get?

Unfortunatly that performance will be the stuff of legend.

"Detroit Pistons lost a playoff game at home because of a layup in its half court offense"

Sorry guys, I'm rooting for Cleveland in game 6. I've had it up to here with this piece of shit overrated team. I can't believe I was one of the sheep who believed something like the acquisition of Chris Webber could help win this team a title. Win OR lose.

I'm just rooting for the NBA to fold. I want to see basketball. Not one on 5, and the rules helping that one win. Sick of the phantom calls. Sick of the star system. Sick of Flip Saunders. Sick of pathetic outings.

Even if Cleveland doesn't wrap this up, with the way LeBron James has emerged I am not giving our piece of shit team a chance in game 7. 79 fucking points won't work in game 7 this year. Goodbye Detroit Basketball.

LARRY BROWN'S Pistons wouldn't have blown that 88-81 lead late, LARRY BROWN'S Pistons wouldn't have been given Golden Boy wide open layups and dunks to build his confidence to take over and absolutely DOMINATE this team. I don't care if Larry is gone, I am getting a poster of that man put on my wall. Because right now I am living in the past...and it's a great place to be.


Go Ravens.

Ever since Flip took over, this team lacks the killer instinct. I just don't see the desire in their eyes any more. Please get rid of Flip. Hire Lindsey as the coach next year. At least he'll get the team pumped up.

The era of winning a championship without a superstar is long over. We need to adjust to it or keep watching one man teams beat us.

the era of letting your team rot for 4 years and winning championships is over. i dont buy this 'need superstar' crap. just like i didnt buy the 'its all about offense' crap that everyone was spewing last year.

2004 pistons take these cavs in 6, no doubt in my mind.

but we should be happy. the pistons kept the payroll low, managed to raise ticket prices exhorbitantly, and despite just about every other industry suffocating in SE michigan, the pistons made BANK.

im thrilled for bill davidson. hell, i like him. he can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

*punches self in stomach*

Even if Cleveland doesn't wrap this up, with the way LeBron James has emerged I am not giving our piece of shit team a chance in game 7. 79 fucking points won't work in game 7 this year. Goodbye Detroit Basketball.

LARRY BROWN'S Pistons wouldn't have blown that 88-81 lead late, LARRY BROWN'S Pistons wouldn't have been given Golden Boy wide open layups and dunks to build his confidence. I don't care if Larry is gone, I am getting a poster of that man put on my wall. Because right now I am living in the past...and it's a helluva lot better than the present.


Go Ravens.

yea, but larry brown talked to another team while he was getting us back to the finals. and god knows we cant have that. running his ass out of town was obviously the right move, as long as your priorities are as fucked up as bill davidson and willy c ford's.

2 best years of my life. Ironic how last year was the worst year of my life (moreso as a person) and this year has been pretty shitty to me, isn't it?


I can't believe I feel horrible for Webber.

Crushing.

Detroit Vaginas LMAO

and very well said finger

Detroit Vaginas LMAO


That title stays until they win this series (IF they win this series) or heads will roll.

Nah, the Pistons are too pussy to be considered vaginas.


Keep it through next season too. Fuck it.

Why I love the Flipper:


"We tried to trap him and get it out of his hands, but he attacked," Pistons coach Flip Saunders said. "We'll definitely have to do something different next time."

I love him because Chauncey is going to have some offensive freedom finally.

Why I love the Flipper:

good thought. something different. definitly a good idea. flip saunders is a ninja x10.

You're killing me in this thread Diddy.

good thought. something different. definitly a good idea. flip saunders is a ninja x10.
[smilie=jefffoster.:

I can't beleive all of LeBron's jumpers fell. fuck this shit we need to find a player, more of a consistent all-star who can drop 20, play solid d on any given night.

I can't believe I stayed at the bar to watch this game hoping for a miracle.

Smoked a whole pack of cigarettes from the start of the 4th to the end of the game.

I seriously hope this is a repeat of last year in 7.

But seriously:

Fuck this team.

this isn't a consolation or anything, but i seriously think that the Cleveland Lebrons beat any team including the Spurs last night. say what you will, but when he's hitting those bullshit step back threes and fade away 20 foot jumpers after beating the double team, i don't think a team in the NBA stops him.

i know i'm probably in the minority here, but i don't think the Pistons played like pussies. saying Detroit didn't do this or they played soft or whatever, just takes away from the fact that one guy carried a team to a win, ala MJ back in the day. they played their asses off but got beat by one player who's good enough to carry a shitty team, that's what i saw tonight.

that said, i hope Lebron catches syphilllis from biting on his nails during a game.

i am getting a real sick feeling that we're going to need a "superstar" level player soon to compete, and we might be in the midst of the Pistons getting old REAL fast like the old Sacramento Kings.

i think NQ said it best in a post earlier.

i'd rather get swept by the Spurs that lose to these assholes......and have to hear about Lebron for the next few weeks.

i'm still watching Game 6 and rooting this team on, i don't know about you guys. i'll have a bucket next to me, once i start heaving after Lebron starting posing for the cameras.......but i'll be watching.

we can't go out like this.....we just can't, can we?

We'll win game 6, but I don't know about a game 7 at the Palace anymore. People talked last year about how if we had game 7 vs. SA at home we would've won...doubt it, because SA aren't soft.

I am avoiding all of ESPN until tomorrow, how about you guys? No 1st and 10, Rome is Burning, ATH, PTI, and definitely no SC. Maybe a little NFL Live...but why the fuck is that show on 4 months before the season starts?


PS: Ojay, who's that in your avatar?

I'm just rooting for the NBA to fold. I want to see basketball. Not one on 5, and the rules helping that one win. Sick of the phantom calls. Sick of the star system. Sick of Flip Saunders. Sick of pathetic outings.

That's pretty much where I'm at. I used to think watching the Lions was the most frustrating past time I engaged in, but watching the Pistons struggle to succeed in today's NBA is literally 10x more frustrating. I get no enjoyment whatsoever from watching games anymore. I visualize Stern wrapping his fingers around the throat of the Pistons after the 2005 season, and slowly applying pressure over the past 2 years. The Pistons have valiantly tried to succeed without a media darling superstar, but the constant rule changes and favoritism is just too much to overcome. Right now, Stern's got the Pistons in a death grip and is laughing maniacally over the prospect of finally kicking team basketball out of the league for good. Team basketball doesn't make money, after all.

LeBron James is a product, not a player. He's a tool the Stern uses to make money. Bottom line.

Fuck the NBA. I hope they dismantle the Pistons after they lose Saturday, because I can't bear to watch this fucking travesty anymore.

A CLE-SA final for Stern would be like deciding which child of his lives and which one dies. :/

Good post Matt.

My buddy came over and we kept saying there it is again, CBill would dribble the ball at the top of the key(If he penetrated that far) then a pass for a 18 to 23 ft jumper fade-away, etc.

Pussies might not be the way to describe them, but they sure didn't WORK to get good shots underneath and give the refs a chance to call fouls on Cleveland. Then the Cavs offensive possession and they'd get a layup and 1 between LBJ's heroics.


How bout...They played agressive, we didn't.

And our Defense is just non-existent compared to the Cavs. Never thought I'd be saying that. But my bud and I watched over and over how when if we attempted any penetration they were almost immediately doubled.

Oh and one more thing. Tay got beat on LBJ's first step numerous times.

All that shit combined for the loss. But mostly, Cleveland played like they wanted it, we didn't.

But I'm with you 100% I'll be in front of the tube rooting for my team on Saturday.

You can blame the refs for Dice getting the boots, but that is about it. They put the Cavs in serious foul trouble to compensate (Gooden, Gibson, "Andy", Z) so let's stop the ref bashing right there.

We got beat by a superstar, and David Stern is on cloud 9 this morning. And that just makes this hurt even worse.

I am begging, no pleading, for the Pistons to win the next two games (as unlikely as that seems) so we can squash this "movement" that the talking heads claim that we are "witnessing".

If I have to hear about him "taking the torch" one more time, I may lop of my dick.

And the Larry Brown comments here are dead on. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.

If Davidson died today and the new owner corrected BD's mistake and brought back LB to coach this team I might be the happiest man alive.

There is no respect from these players for Flip, he's got to go.

I have no idea who's next.

I agree that it's time to overhaul, and by that I don't mean "rebuild". If Joe gets his head out of his ass and if Davidson lets him spend, we could be right be back here next year with some different components.

Yeah, the calls were horse shit in general last night. Didn't cause our loss, but very frustrating. They were not consistant with anything. Lebron got calls that Sheed and Prince did not get on similar contact. Then we had clean blocks that were called fouls. Varejao got bad calls too. The refs just plain stunk in general.

I was listening to the fan this morning and they were talking about several players and assistant coaches arguing with Flip. Hunter was arguing with Flip while on the bench down the stretch pleading with him to go back to the zone and trap Lebron. Apparently Porter was arguing with Flip too. They also said several players were arguing with Cowens about something. They sat behind the Pistons bench and observed this. I didn't notice it on TV at all.

I think this team needs more of a task master than Flip is. Maybe Porter is the answer, I don't know. But I have a feeling Flip will be back next year.

First of all, no disrespect to you guys who don't agreel, but I'm going to say this: I'm proud of my Pistons today. Even Chris Webber showed up last night and put up a good fight. The Travel Mug just had a hell of a night, and Detroit almost always has a problem with refs. With both of them working against you, I don't know what is supposed to happen.

I'm proud of their work. They took it to 2OT and they played with energy.

I'm still going to stand by my assessment that next year, nobody gets traded that isn't going to leave anyway, and Flip should probably go elsewhere.

First of all, no disrespect to you guys who don't agreel, but I'm going to say this: I'm proud of my Pistons today. Even Chris Webber showed up last night and put up a good fight. The Travel Mug just had a hell of a night, and Detroit almost always has a problem with refs. With both of them working against you, I don't know what is supposed to happen.

I'm proud of their work. They took it to 2OT and they played with energy.

I'm still going to stand by my assessment that next year, nobody gets traded that isn't going to leave anyway, and Flip should probably go elsewhere.


Great post.

Looks like Michael Jordan will be going to the finals once again... and, once again, the NBA is saved.

Whoops... I meant to say LeBron James.

Had a David Stern moment, there.

Whoever it was that talked about the '04 Lakers comparison...all we are is one tell all book by Flip Saunders, where he trashes Rasheed, away.


Someone get Pablo Francisco to do the preview for CLE-SA in the finals.


"ANDERSON VAREJAO


.....

MANU GINOBILI

.....

IN THE BIGGEST FLOP OF THE CENTURY"

I honestly don't know what to do tomorrow. I will be rooting for my team no matter what, but at the same time...I have to appreciate playoff effort.

I wish I was more confident in us, but when we continue to play Lebron the same way down the stretch and it doesn't work...you wonder how long it takes for Flip to get a friggen clue.

Yeah, the calls were horse shit in general last night. Didn't cause our loss, but very frustrating. They were not consistant with anything. Lebron got calls that Sheed and Prince did not get on similar contact. Then we had clean blocks that were called fouls. Varejao got bad calls too. The refs just plain stunk in general.

I was listening to the fan this morning and they were talking about several players and assistant coaches arguing with Flip. Hunter was arguing with Flip while on the bench down the stretch pleading with him to go back to the zone and trap Lebron. Apparently Porter was arguing with Flip too. They also said several players were arguing with Cowens about something. They sat behind the Pistons bench and observed this. I didn't notice it on TV at all.

I think this team needs more of a task master than Flip is. Maybe Porter is the answer, I don't know. But I have a feeling Flip will be back next year.

that's interesting. i wonder how much of that goes on in a regular game on other teams, if at all. although, i can't imagine a guy like Jerry Sloan or Popovich taking any lip from players arguing with him from the bench.

Yeah, I've been thinking a lot about Pop during this series, and how he's one of the very few authoritative coaches left in the game.

Dice will play in game 6!

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9439

I cooled down a little bit from last night. Man this sucks ass, cause this team has this and that and we play like shit against a one-manned team.

We gotta bring it.


PS: Ojay, who's that in your avatar?

Alie Layus.

I was listening to the fan this morning and they were talking about several players and assistant coaches arguing with Flip. Hunter was arguing with Flip while on the bench down the stretch pleading with him to go back to the zone and trap Lebron. Apparently Porter was arguing with Flip too. They also said several players were arguing with Cowens about something. They sat behind the Pistons bench and observed this. I didn't notice it on TV at all.

I think this team needs more of a task master than Flip is. Maybe Porter is the answer, I don't know. But I have a feeling Flip will be back next year.

Yeah I saw Hunter goiing a little nuts on the bench and he had the right too.

LeBron was feeling but you cant stop that. The only way to stop him was hack him..and thats not very smart but im sure he would have choked if the game was on the line with 2 seconds left...way go to billups!!!!!!!!!!![smilie=bigshot.gif]

Matt is right, we need a superstar type player or atleast one whos guaranteed to be a consistent all star player ala duncan type

That's pretty much where I'm at. I used to think watching the Lions was the most frustrating past time I engaged in, but watching the Pistons struggle to succeed in today's NBA is literally 10x more frustrating. I get no enjoyment whatsoever from watching games anymore. I visualize Stern wrapping his fingers around the throat of the Pistons after the 2005 season, and slowly applying pressure over the past 2 years. The Pistons have valiantly tried to succeed without a media darling superstar, but the constant rule changes and favoritism is just too much to overcome. Right now, Stern's got the Pistons in a death grip and is laughing maniacally over the prospect of finally kicking team basketball out of the league for good. Team basketball doesn't make money, after all.

LeBron James is a product, not a player. He's a tool the Stern uses to make money. Bottom line.

Fuck the NBA. I hope they dismantle the Pistons after they lose Saturday, because I can't bear to watch this fucking travesty anymore.
QFT

I cant fucking stand watching this shit go on any longer.

We're not indestructible,
Baby better get that straight.
I think it's unbelieveable,
How you give into the hands of fate.
Some things are worth fighting for,
some feelings never die.
I'm not asking for another chance,
I just wanna know why.

(chorus)
There's no easy way out,
There's no shortcut home.
There's no easy way out,
Giving in can't be wrong.

I don't wanna pasify you,
I don't wanna drag you down.
But I'm Feeling like a prisoner,
Like A Stranger in a no-name town.
I See all the angry faces,
Afraid that could be you and me.
Talking about what might have been,
Thinking about what it used to be.

(chorus)
There's no easy way out,
There's no shortcut home.
There's no easy way out,
Giving in can't be wrong.

Baby Baby we can shed this skin,
We can know how we feel inside.
Instead of going down an endless road,
Not knowing if we're dead or alive.
Some things are worth fighting for,
some feelings never die.
I'm not asking for another chance,
I just wanna know why.

(chorus)
There's no easy way out,
There's no shortcut home.
There's no easy way out,
givin in, givin in, can't be wrong.

(repeat and fade)

That was very inspirational.

Thank you, Tim.

This is the team that made it from a triple-OT loss to win a championship.

This is the team that went on to beat the Cavs after losing three in a row.

This is a team that knows how to win Game 6 on the road when it matters.

I'm not giving up on these Pistons. You shouldn't either.

jNyLWFujxqk


NO PAIN, NO PAIN, NO PAIN!!

(Just imagine Rocky being Chauncey and the picture of Drago on his mirror being a picture of LeBron. Works every time.)

This is the team that made it from a triple-OT loss to win a championship.

This is the team that went on to beat the Cavs after losing three in a row.

This is a team that knows how to win Game 6 on the road when it matters.

I'm not giving up on these Pistons. You shouldn't either.

I'm with you, Mxy.

I want to be optimistic, I really do, but it's so goddamn frustrating that we even have to worry about "which Piston team is going to show up?".

I feel like they can pull this off, I just don't think they will.

Just like last year, something's wrong with this team.

Don't know exactly what it is, but it's clear now that it wasn't Ben Wallace.

It's not a Guaransheed, but it's close.

Webber was quoted saying, "We're not losing Saturday".

Pistons at last call (http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070602/SPORTS08/706020359/1127/SPORTS0102)

Slow down James or season is over

AUBURN HILLS -- Rasheed Wallace cleared the coaches out of the locker room following the Pistons' potentially fatal 109-107 double-overtime loss in Game 5 of the Eastern Conference finals Thursday.

He had some things to get off his chest. Nobody but the players know for sure what was said. Whatever it was, it was loud and harsh. No punches were pulled. No feelings were spared.

The message, as best can be deciphered: I ain't going down like this. This ain't over.

"We are still confident," Wallace told the media. "We are still confident."

The Pistons might be confident, but the bigger question is, are they capable? They trail the Cavaliers 3-2 -- the same deficit they faced during last season's conference semifinals, which they won -- with Game 6 tonight in Cleveland.

"We've been here before, a lot of times," Chauncey Billups said. "We've got to lock in. We've got to lock in and win one game. That's it. We've got to win one game."

The Pistons do have some impressive Game 6 victories:

# 81-75 at New Jersey in 2004 after losing a triple-overtime game at The Palace.

# 91-66 at home against Miami in 2005.

# 95-86 at San Antonio in the 2005 NBA Finals after losing Game 5 at home in overtime.

# 84-82 at Cleveland in Game 6 last season.

But, the Pistons are facing a different beast this time.

2 hours to Game time. Come on fellas, knock LBJ down to size.

1 hour to go.

the weather's eerie outside today......good sign or bad?

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d178/ojay_/nba/switch.jpg

playing well so far...and LEbron is so quiet right now.nasty block by tay as well

In hindsight, especially after seeing that replay, Webber probly should have been ejected

I thought there was a double T...don't we get the free throw too?

fuck a varajeo

Agree fuck a verajo but the refs should have seen the batting. He was egging CWebb on and he bit.

We're doing a lot better this game, but still settling for outsiders instead of working the ball inside and trying to get some foul calls. We don't really pressure the Cavs defense.

27-21 Floppers

Hair FLOPPING everywhere

Get Nazr out of the game
Why bother with him at this stage

...nazr...you have to be fucking kidding me why foul gibson? you know he can't take the pressure shots

That is a horrible jacket

re: Nazr I thought Nazr's fouls could have been used last game with dice being ejected. Put Nazr in the middle and put anyone who comes down the lane squarely on their wallet.

Fucking Cleveland. They're such fucking idiots they can't even get a clock to work.

jkko

re: Nazr I thought Nazr's fouls could have been used last game with dice being ejected. Put Nazr in the middle and put anyone who comes down the lane squarely on their wallet.
He would just get ejected

Fucking Cleveland. They're such fucking idiots they can't even get a clock to work.

jkko

all problems at this bullshit arena...go pistons!

Hi, I'm Craig Sager, and your father hired me to be a clown for your birthday party this evening. OOPS! I'm at a fucking NBA game! SHHHEEEEIIT, I'm gonna fire that goddamm secretary...

Hi Craig. Fuck you!

Ref: Is everything working aside from the horn?
Scoreboard guy: Yes .... I think

now im just getting mad...lets goo. i hope messes up lebrons rhythm..oh wait he hasnt taken a signle shot and we are still losing

What time in Kor?

Hey refs, 3 steps is a travel.

for crying out loud call the travel.......................

i woke up at 9;30 for this bullshit.... on sunday right now it is 10:37

who saw varejeos behind the back? fuck the nba!

10:37AM?

If we lose this game, I hope we go down in on fire. CWEBB, Sheed, Rip and the boys all have a meltdown.

yes sir

we jsut got robbed 3 points a clear charge and kerr knows it

They could at least try and fucking hide the shithouse ref bias... this is fucking HORRIBLE

If we have that meltdown, I hope they use it to prove a point to the refs by knocking them out

I usually do not blame the refs but this game might be a change...we are gettign robbed starting from lebrons travels to tayshaun not getting any calls

That was definately a charge by Gibson on Dice. They showed the frigging replay and Dice was ouside the lines.

we are attacking the rim more and less jumpshots AND starting to get our free throws.

just so you don't feel left out, what time is it in Melbourne? Or should I say day?

That was definately a charge by Gibson on Dice. They showed the frigging replay and Dice was ouside the lines.
And then straight down the other end theres a no call with Tay running over someone

I'm with you on this one Cross

we are attacking the rim more and less jumpshots AND starting to get our free throws.

Exactly. If you don't drive you aren't going to get foul calls.

11.50am on Sunday in Melbourne

I just saw a stat that Sheed was 9/19 from the line in game 5... I hadn't noticed that before...
*just check box scores and the stat was wrong... He was 9/10*

Nice block out boys. 3 guys standing there while Iggy gets a put back.

we need to hit our free throws though...

yeah I saw that stat too...we really need to work on our free throws.

I want some of Sheeds anger to come into play as well as rips and webbers.

Too bad richard doesnt have that killer instinct.

Anyone else feel LeBrons going to take every single one of the Cavs shots in the 2nd half?

I thought there was a double T...don't we get the free throw too?

fuck a varajeo
Webber + Hamilton got T'd, must cancel each other out on the double T

Billups need to step up imo. Richards playing so well right now attacking and shooting the lights out.

FUCK THE OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS BUT THERES A GOALTEND!

anyone up for a game chat?

I love it when I can get the play by play from WTF Detroit!