I'll stick up for Ledezma, here. Monty Python is an acquired taste, and I can't blame Ledezma if he hasn't acquired it -- took me awhile and I'm still not fully onboard. Probably the most enduring Monty Python-ism most people encounter in day-to-day life is spam. If that were my first exposure to Monty Python, I wouldn't be asking for seconds. :)

I'm not saying he has to like him, as I think Monty Python is just okay, but I read Ledezma's post as he doesn't even know who he is.

There is no excuse for that.

I'm not saying he has to like him, as I think Monty Python is just okay, but I read Ledezma's post as he doesn't even know who he is.

There is no excuse for that.


I've heard him referenced in Family Guy before, but other than that, I would be willing to bet most people my age and younger have no clue who he is/was.

Just like Horseshack...

It's your nostalgia which makes this hard to believe, not my ignorance.

It's your nostalgia which makes this hard to believe, not my ignorance.
Yet you know who buddy nerdo Holly is? Meh.

Wil, I'm only a few years older than you. Monty Python was before my time. But you have to live under a rock to not see a commercial for his "best of videos" or clips of the stupid shit he came up with. I think they even play that shit at Pistons games.

And LOL @ nostalgia. Do you think everyone that has a birthdate before you does the Charleston and remembers the roaring 20s as the "good 'ol days?"

PS the Charleston rocks. I do it when I'm Ghost Riding the Whip.

I moonwalk when I ghost ride the whip, so yea i'm too nostalgic.

I do the Pee Wee Herman dance when I ghost ride the whip.

This might be a flaw of my generation, but I have no fucking clue what/who Monty Python is/was...

We'll remember that.

I've heard him referenced in Family Guy before, but other than that, I would be willing to bet most people my age and younger have no clue who he is/was.

Just like Horseshack...

It's your nostalgia which makes this hard to believe, not my ignorance.

It's not a "he". Now you're just doing this to piss people off. One switch over to Google and you've got their history in a second....

Ooohh. Waitaminute. I get it. This is a Sarah Palin moment, ain't it. You adore somebody so much, you actually become just like them. Shit! What's the name of the psychological ailment for that?????

Cancer.

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/03/nailin-palin/

"Nailin' Paylin"

Posted Oct 3rd 2008 10:30AM by TMZ Staff

Sarah Palin is officially a legend! Hustler Video is shooting a porn with a look-alike titled "Nailin' Paylin." The spelling is sic and so is Hustler. You betcha!
The faux Sarah is Lisa Ann, who "will be nailing the Russians who come knocking on her back-door." In another scene -- a flashback -- "young Paylin's creationist college professor will explain a 'big bang' theory even she can't deny!"

There's also a threeway with Hillary and Condoleezza look-alikes.

The video is in pre-production, but is being fast tracked for release before the election.

http://blog.oregonlive.com/elections/2008/03/large_palin_sarah.jpghttp://www.hungdevils.com/uploads/monthly_06_2008/post-1217-1213295658.jpg

behind the scenes no pun intended
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=44588258&searchid=eb1eb0b0-bff2-4fc8-8432-a04b9c3479f2

That's America.

http://www.palinaspresident.com/

Best site ever (besides this one)

Rake or Track, which name do you like better?

Do you think everyone that has a birthdate before you does the Charleston and remembers the roaring 20s as the "good 'ol days?"

Well forgive me for not knowing the "Hannah Montana" of the '70's.

I give up.

I give up.


Through being facetious and playing dumb i've won another debate wearing my opponent out with my higher intellect of idiocy. Tahoe was right, this shit works like a charm.

lol @ "A Proven Maverick" banner ad at the bottom of this page.

now click it, click it you sumbitches, we need the $$$$$

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone with a brain can equate Monty Python to Hannah Montana.

You'll have to give me a while to ponder this one...

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone with a brain can equate Monty Python to Hannah Montana.

You'll have to give me a while to ponder this one...

I agree. Monty Python had more of niche followers. I can't really think of their equal today.

Adult Swim perhaps. Or maybe ATHF specifically.

513

513
Risky move.

Mxy is secure.

I almost put it white.

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Gotta love the reaction of a New Hampshire crowd as Palin talks about them being part of the great northwest.

Haha. Whoever typed up those talking points is fired.

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone with a brain can equate Monty Python to Hannah Montana.

You'll have to give me a while to ponder this one...


In the sense that both are/were a blown-out-of-proportion, trendy phenomenon.

I should've explianed further.

In the sense that both are/were a blown-out-of-proportion, trendy phenomenon.

I should've explianed further.

I'm hoping you stop explaining now :)

Monty Python blown out of proportion? Well if so many college geeks wouldn't have quoted them all the time in that horrible, whiny fake British accent, things would have been all right. But trendy? They have a body of work (some things better than others) and Life of Brian should be required viewing for anyone when it comes to talking about religion.

But any comparisons to Hannah Montana...yikes.

Well whoever he is, his opinions of Sarah Palin show how uneducated he is on general politics (a la Matt Damon).

I'm still trying to figure out how anyone with a brain can equate Monty Python to Hannah Montana.
You might not have as big of a dilemma as you think.

www.palinaspresident.com


LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NOQ sent me the link.

Zach Miner sent me the link.

lol

Cha-ching!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27228287/


Sarah Palin's office has discovered a renewable resource to bring millions of dollars into Alaska's economy: the governor's e-mails.

The office of the Republican vice-presidential nominee has quoted prices as high as $15 million for copies of state e-mails requested by news organizations and citizens.

Palin undermines the ticket:
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/10/17/politics/fromtheroad/entry4529978.shtml

“I know Obama loves America,” Palin said on the short flight from Cincinnati to Indianapolis when asked by CBS News whether she thinks the Democratic nominee loves his country as much as she does.

How is that undermining the ticket?

Goes against her talking points.

How is that undermining the ticket?

Watch it...you're going to get thrown under the bus. :)

“Well, I think that American voters are understanding that association—that it’s OK to talk about fact,” she said. “Of course, Barack Obama had been bringing it up, even in challenging John McCain on that, saying if you want to talk about it, talk about it, too, so McCain did that, and the association is out there. It’s up now to the people of America to decide whether that association is important enough to them to research and find out more about a person’s judgment and truthfulness.”

I think it's about Congressional seats, now.

^ yep.

Do you live in a very pro-American area?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/17/campaign.wrap/index.html

We believe that the best of America is in the small towns that we get to visit, and in the wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard-working, very patriotic, very pro-America areas of this great nation

^^ from Mxy's link...


Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor responded in a statement Friday, saying: "We have not worked with ACORN at all in the general election.

So giving them $800,000 to register people multiple times to vote for Obama was just "goodwill" right? His campaign was just looking for something to write-off for tax season. Yeah...

1) "in the general election" is the key phrase. Obama hired the CSI folks during the primaries. They "subcontracted" ACORN for some of their work. ACORN does more things than just election stuff, and has incubated a lot of related (but separate) organizations for specific purposes.

2) There's been no evidence of false registrations leading to false people showing up and having any impact on primary results. We've already had votes based off their work and nothing bad was reported, at the time or subsequently.

But back to Palin... if getting trashed mercilessly by Alec Baldwin is her idea of funny, she delivered:

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/gov-palin-cold-open/773761/

If white girl moves and having your hopes dashed that she'd imitate Tina Fey on the news are your thing, she delivered -- you betcha!

http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/clips/update-palin-rap/773781/

07kO9TtHYzQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07kO9TtHYzQ)

awMMJuLwMA8

SNL fallout:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27278571/

http://www.tmz.com/2008/10/20/sarah-palins-alias-tina/

I also thought her parts were pretty weak. I thought the rap was funny, but she didn't do it. I didn't really expect her to be funny anyway though. It wouldn't change my opinion if I were undecided for what it's worth.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z48QhMZ85k&eurl=http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/

So Palin wants Alaska to get rich off oil and gas while Americans buy our oil and gas from overseas at a higher price:


On the campaign trail, Sarah Palin says repeatedly that America must tap its own natural gas and oil reserves to become energy-independent.
But the Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate has pushed the federal government to allow a liquefied natural gas plant to continue exporting to Asia _ the only such plant in the United States that sends the product overseas.

(cont)

"In these times of economic uncertainty, this is great news for the state and its residents," Palin said when the license was approved in June.
During negotiations, which began last year, Palin had pressed for enough natural gas to serve Alaska to remain in-state. She added, however, that the rest should be shipped primarily to Japan.

(cont)

So while the United States imported 771 billion cubic feet of natural gas last year from Trinidad and Tobago, Algeria, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Nigeria and Qatar, Alaska is expected to export 100 billion cubic feet to Asia over the next two years.

Not sure if the whole pro-america areas thing was posted or not. Considering how they went after Michelle for her proud statements, I think this thing should be getting more play:


The McCain campaign is seeking to clarify a remark reported from a Sarah Palin fundraiser (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/to_avoid_being_depressed_palin.html?hpid=topnews) in North Carolina yesterday in which the Alaska Governor declared that she loved to visit the "pro-America" areas of the country -- implying, implicitly, that there were some parts of the United States she viewed as not pro-America.
The reporter who broke the story, the Washington Post's Juliet Eilperin, sends over the following, extended quote from a more detailed version of the pool report.

"We believe that the best of America is not all in Washington, D.C. We believe" -- here the audience interrupted Palin with applause and cheers -- "We believe that the best of America is in these small towns that we get to visit, and in these wonderful little pockets of what I call the real America, being here with all of you hard working very patriotic, um, very, um, pro-America areas of this great nation. This is where we find the kindness and the goodness and the courage of everyday Americans. Those who are running our factories and teaching our kids and growing our food and are fighting our wars for us. Those who are protecting us in uniform. Those who are protecting the virtues of freedom." Not sure how much this helps Palin out. Is the VP candidate saying that small towns are more authentically American than, say, suburbia or cities?
As Eilperin writes (http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/17/palin_clarifies_her_pro-americ.html): "The upshot? Washington D.C. is neither 'real America' or 'pro-America.' Other parts of the nation? It's unclear, but if you live in a small town, you're probably patriotic from Palin's point of view."

Let me just say this to Sarah Palin: Fuck you.

^^ from Mxy's link...



So giving them $800,000 to register people multiple times to vote for Obama was just "goodwill" right? His campaign was just looking for something to write-off for tax season. Yeah...

It's funny how 'voter fraud" is happening all over again, but this time in the Dem's favor.

How quickly yee forget Floriduh.

So Palin wants Alaska to get rich off oil and gas while Americans buy our oil and gas from overseas at a higher price:
Let's not forget the natural gas pipeline they want to build to Canada (who in turn re-sell to the lower 48 states). It doesn't have to be overseas. :)

Someone forgot to tell Sarah that "President of the Senate" is largely ceremonial in nature (absent a tie vote):

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l40nrw3V3GA

At least she knows theres 50 states.

At least she knows theres 50 states.
She also knows how many of them are pro-America.

She also knows how many of them are pro-America.

Whatever that means...

Guys, I'm not sure Michigan qualifies as pro-America. This is keeping me up at night.

Palin's doctoring her Alaskan expense forms after the fact to cover up trips for her kids on the government dime:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

But she didn't watch FDR on TV in 1929.

But she didn't watch FDR on TV in 1929.

why not put 57 states and the fdr on tv info in your sig. then we wouldn't need separate posts every time you have nothing to say.

why not put 57 states and the fdr on tv info in your sig. then we wouldn't need separate posts every time you have nothing to say.

LOL. Sorry, but y'all post all these posts day after day after day of some insignificant things someone said or did. I'm too lazy to go find something Biden said every day. I'll just use the same material over and over.

Country First (http://www.breitbart.com/print.php?id=D93UO5580&show_article=1&catnum=3)


On the campaign trail, Sarah Palin says repeatedly that America must tap its own natural gas and oil reserves to become energy-independent.

But the Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate has pushed the federal government to allow a liquefied natural gas plant to continue exporting to Asia—the only such plant in the United States that sends the product overseas.


"In these times of economic uncertainty, this is great news for the state and its residents," Palin said when the license was approved in June.

During negotiations, which began last year, Palin had pressed for enough natural gas to serve Alaska to remain in-state. She added, however, that the rest should be shipped primarily to Japan.



Volatile oil and gas prices and limited energy supplies have prompted a steady increase in U.S. use of liquefied natural gas.

But aside from Alaska, there is no domestic production.

So while the United States imported 771 billion cubic feet of natural gas last year from Trinidad and Tobago, Algeria, Egypt, Equatorial Guinea, Nigeria and Qatar, Alaska is expected to export 100 billion cubic feet to Asia over the next two years.

LOL. Sorry, but y'all post all these posts day after day after day of some insignificant things someone said or did. I'm too lazy to go find something Biden said every day. I'll just use the same material over and over.

So you don't expect a vp candidate to understand what a vp does after 2 months of campaigning and after having been asked the same question at least 4 times. Isn't that a minimum requirement for a vp candidate.

I can understand when obama thinks 50-3=47, but then accidentally says 57 instead. Biden obviously didn't see roosevelt on tv after the stock market crash, but there is video footage of fdr talking about the economy. Why doesn't understand what job she is running for? It is not as if biden and obama incorrectly answer fundamental questions of govt. over and over again.

How much does it cost to dress up Caribou Barbie?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

But she didn't watch FDR on TV in 1929.
It would have interfered with her Russia-watching anyway.

My dog's name is Sarah. Every time I call her Sarah Palin, she starts crying.

Guess she supports Obama. But she's a black lab, so that's expected...right Wil?

^ LOL

I'm just waiting for Palin's clothes to be bought up on eBay by Republican men.

It would have interfered with her Russia-watching anyway.

Oh snap that is some funny shit C.

How much does it cost to dress up Caribou Barbie?

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

I heard this morning that they really aren't allowed to spend that money on her at all. I don't really know about that, but I'm pretty sure they shouldn't be buying strollers and stuff for the family with that money.

It is all ok, because the clothes will be donated to those who absolutely need to spend $10,000 or so per outfit, but just can't afford it in today's economy.

Honestly, I'd rather they buy clothes then more campaign ads.

Glenn will be steaming mad when he watchers this one:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/22/palin-pronounces-name-of_n_136832.html

Speaking of expensive tastes, check out her makeup costs:


The Sleuth has learned that Palin's high-paid traveling make-up artist is Amy Strozzi, who was nominated for an Emmy Award for her work as head of makeup on "So You Think You Can Dance." Strozzi was paid $13,200 by the McCain-Palin campaign last month alone, according to the campaign's latest financial disclosure report filed this week.

$150K on clothes? That's what, 4 times Joe the Plumber's annual salary?

Y'all are to the political forums and to the Democrats, what Wil Ledezma is to UofM football. lol

No offense Wil.

Y'all are to the political forums and to the Democrats, what Wil Ledezma is to UofM football. lol

Please explain.

Sarah and her Democratic scarf:
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7592/originalhw8.jpg

Awww... how cute!
Alaskan tax dollars paying to take Palin's kids friends on guv'mint planes:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

Griffin also said Palin reimbursed the state for the cost of two friends who accompanied Bristol and Willow on a flight on a state airplane in May 2007.

John Glass, the deputy public safety commissioner, said he was not aware of the friends' flight until The Associated Press brought it to his attention, but the governor has the right to bring others on the plane.

"She has the ability to authorize people to travel with her," Glass said. "That's the end of the story."

Didn't the Obama camp pay for that stupid Greek Temple he had at the DNC?

Seems both parties have splurged a little bit.

Can't kill Palin for getting some nice clothes. I doubt there's a Burberry in Wasilla.

As goofy as I think Palin is, I don't think ripping on her clothes is all that important. In fact, it's a little sexist to worry about how much Sarah Palin is spending her money on clothes. I'm sure the men do it as well, but it's not an issue.

I agree.... that's pretty tenuous. I am more worried about her spending money to transport her kids when it's not authorized etc. but that's also not terrible to me and a somewhat little understandable.

Didn't the Obama camp pay for that stupid Greek Temple he had at the DNC?

Seems both parties have splurged a little bit.
Actually, that'd be the DNC paying for such things, not Obama (much as the RNC paid for Palin's clothes, not the McCain campaign). The background actually played fairly well on TV for his speech, as you can see:
http://www.whiterabbitcult.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/obama-chill-i-got-this.jpg


Can't kill Palin for getting some nice clothes. I doubt there's a Burberry in Wasilla.
$2500/day of nice clothes? Yeah, I'm sure that will play well with all the blue collar crowd.

John Edwards paid $400 for a hair cut.

John Edwards paid $400 for a hair cut.
IIRC, the haircut was only $100 and the barber waiting for three hours because Edwards was late was why it was $400. But, the fact that this anecdote about Edwards is played to this day gives insight into how big an LOL@Palin this is.

Is it any better to say that the guy paid $100 for a haircut?

Depends on what else he got with the haircut. And what hair he was cutting.

What kind of a lap dance would I get with a $100 haircut, I wonder?

I personally think the free money for the per diem and the kids travel is a bigger deal than the clothes. My father was a federal employee and he would have never gotten away with expensing a separate room for the kids or our meals on the couple times we traveled with him for business.

Also, the hypocrisy of the clothes vs. edwards haircut should be obvious. The repubs wouldn't shut up about the $400 haircut, but we're now supposed to assume that America's favorite hockey mom should be given a $150,000 blank check to go shopping?

Yes!

Anybody talking about Obama's custom suit, or Joe Biden's botox?

Nope...

Anybody talking about Obama's custom suit, or Joe Biden's botox?

Nope...
Wrong thread for that. :)

Obama pays for his own suits, which are largely off-the-rack attire he had before running for President, and owns a limited quantity of them which he reuses constantly. His one custom suit was $1500, not $150000, and he's worn it more than once. And just look at those custom worn-once shoes:

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/gen/44865/original.jpg

Joe Biden's botox belongs in the LOL@Biden thread, unless the botox was to cover up the impact of multiple brain aneurysms.

We probably should've had LOL@Obama and LOL@McCain threads a long time ago. :)

I'm sure that Biden's campaign donations are not paying for his botox either.

Anybody talking about Obama's custom suit, or Joe Biden's botox?

Nope...

When they're paid for with campaign contributions and reach six-figures we'll talk. Palin is going to have to open her own mooseburger franchise to cover the taxes on $150,000 of extra income.

I feel bad for the guy that puts $20 in the mail to help a cause that he strongly believes in only to have it represent 0.013% of Palin's wardrobe

As goofy as I think Palin is, I don't think ripping on her clothes is all that important. In fact, it's a little sexist to worry about how much Sarah Palin is spending her money on clothes. I'm sure the men do it as well, but it's not an issue.

Good post.

As goofy as I think Palin is, I don't think ripping on her clothes is all that important. In fact, it's a little sexist to worry about how much Sarah Palin is spending her money on clothes. I'm sure the men do it as well, but it's not an issue.

Good post.

And then there's McCain on the floor of the senate (http://dailykos.com/images/user/28416/McCain_on_Personal_Expenses_II.pdf) trying to get restrictions passed on exactly that kind of expenditure. Of course this was before he ever ran for president and changed his mind about everything he ever said he believed in.


Madam President, the amendment before the Senate is a very simple one. It restricts the use of campaign funds for inherently personal purposes. The amendment would restrict individuals from using campaign funds for such things as home mortgage payments, clothing purchases, noncampaign automobile expenses, country club memberships, and vacations or other trips that are noncampaign in nature.

The use of campaign funds for items which most Americans would consider to be strictly personal reasons, in my view, erodes public confidence and erodes it significantly.

If we in Congress learned one thing from President Clinton's $200 haircut last week, it should be that the public does not approve of its elected officials being treated as royalty. We should be no different.
[...]
I point out these abuses, in my view what are abuses, because they are certainly not what the average contributor intends for their funds to go to.

Good post.
I wouldn't care how much she spent, if it were her money. Wizzle has a far better point. How would you like to be the factory worker who donates 20 bucks to them and it pays for one thread on her outfit?

And I know this answer is going to get heat, but that's politics. We already know that all politicians do this, but we're singling her out because she's a woman. Is it right that we pay for clothing our politicians? No. Are politicians corrupt? Most of them. Is it hypocritacal for her to have such expensive clothes after what McCain said? Yes. Are McCain and Palin idiots? Yessir. Is palinaspresident.com hilarious? Fuck yes.

I just think that this issue wouldn't have come up if it was a man running for VP. I like to make fun of Palin just as much as you guys, but the media getting ahold of this and running with it seems a little stupid.

Really? Obama, Biden and McCain buy their own clothes:


ORMOND BEACH, Fla. — Presidential candidate John McCain isn't happy about having to explain why the Republican Party has had to buy running mate Sarah Palin $150,000 in clothes, hair styling and accessories.
McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree _ and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they'll be donated to charity.
"She needed clothes at the time. They'll be donated at end of this campaign. They'll be donated to charity," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies.
Asked for details on how they'll be donated, McCain said, "It works by her getting some clothes when she was made the nominee of the party and it will be donated back to charity."
Asked if he was surprised at the amount spent, McCain said, "It works that the clothes will be donated to charity. Nothing surprises me."
McCain offered no further comment, except to say that the doesn't Republican Party buy his clothes.


Asked Wednesday who had paid for the suit he was wearing, Joe Biden told WSLS-TV in Roanoke, Va.: "I pay for my suits. I pay for all of my own clothing."

Fair enough. I could be wrong. Maybe Palin is that stupid.

It just seems funny that the first time this is brought up (that I can remember) in an election is when there's a woman running.

This political forum is just amazing these days...all i have to do is post a 'good post' and I get quoted and refuted a couple of times.

The discussion is gone. No other viewpoints are accepted. LMAO

Just follow the talking points and don't step out of line and all will be ok.

It probably isn't normally brought up because most nominees are long time politicians that have probably made a healthy salary. The public probably doesn't really think to ask where their clothes came from. However, that doesn't mean it isn't an issue. I'd be pissed if Obama, Biden or McCain did the same thing. I think she brought this on herself with her small town regular person talk and the other looming scandles. If she was a qualified candidate there would be a lot more talk about her policies and a lot less talk about this other stuff.

What do you expect when you pick someone who isn't vetted and you hide her from the media?

This political forum is just amazing these days...all i have to do is post a 'good post' and I get quoted and refuted a couple of times.

The discussion is gone. No other viewpoints are accepted. LMAO

Just follow the talking points and don't step out of line and all will be ok.

Well, it kind of came across that it was only a "good post" because he agreed with you.

If you were posting "good post" even if you disagreed, then that might get a warmer reception.

But I'm not here to tell you what to post and what not to post, just sharing how it came across to me, personally, as an individual, not as a representative of any smaller or larger group or association.

^talking point!

The posts keep coming until one posts a "I am wrong and have learned nothing" around here.

This political forum is just amazing these days...all i have to do is post a 'good post' and I get quoted and refuted a couple of times.

The discussion is gone. No other viewpoints are accepted. LMAO

Just follow the talking points and don't step out of line and all will be ok.

I don't get this. People provided reasons for their disagreement. It is not like you made a post and everyone called you an idiot simply because you support McCain. Message boards are for disagreements and I think everyone was respectful of others' opinions. Admittedly, I step over the line from time to time here, but that is not what happened in this instance.

Edit: Glenn's post appeared after I started writing FWIW

^ my point. LMAO

Yeah, xanadu is an asshole.

Xanny is ok, in my book.

Fair enough. I could be wrong. Maybe Palin is that stupid.

It just seems funny that the first time this is brought up (that I can remember) in an election is when there's a woman running.

Like I said, people made a big deal out of Edwards $400 hair cut. I don't see this as special persecution of a woman. In fact, a number of rightwing columnists spent all kinds of time exclaiming that John Kerry was just a gigolo. I am surprised they didn't get david lee roth to sing it at their convention. This type of stuff wasn't just invented for Sarah Palin.

As goofy as I think Palin is, I don't think ripping on her clothes is all that important. In fact, it's a little sexist to worry about how much Sarah Palin is spending her money on clothes. I'm sure the men do it as well, but it's not an issue.

I'd rather rip off her clothes....

She donates them to charity after she's done wearing them...

FYI

Fair enough. I could be wrong. Maybe Palin is that stupid.

It just seems funny that the first time this is brought up (that I can remember) in an election is when there's a woman running.
In this case I don't see the narrative as being "Palin is stupid" but rather "Palin is a little bit of a hypocrite." She styles herself as the populist Mrs. Joe Sixpack Hockey Mom anti-elitist common folksy candidate and then she styles herself in a $150,000 wardrobe with campaign money.

It also paints McCain as something of a hypocrite as well, having come out in the past as opposed to such uses of campaign money well before there was a female candidate for president.

I just don't see where any of that is a gender issue.

In the grand scheme, I do agree with you that it's not a terribly important issue one way or the other. Certainly fair game for a LOL@... thread though.

re: #616

I'm sure she does...now.

re: #616

I'm sure she does...now.


MSLSD left that part out on purpose...

In this case I don't see the narrative as being "Palin is stupid" but rather "Palin is a little bit of a hypocrite." She styles herself as the populist Mrs. Joe Sixpack Hockey Mom anti-elitist common folksy candidate and then she styles herself in a $150,000 wardrobe with campaign money.

It also paints McCain as something of a hypocrite as well, having come out in the past as opposed to such uses of campaign money well before there was a female candidate for president.

I just don't see where any of that is a gender issue.

In the grand scheme, I do agree with you that it's not a terribly important issue one way or the other. Certainly fair game for a LOL@... thread though.

I guess you're right. Perfectly fine for a LOL thread.

And I was referring to Palin being hypocritical and therefore, stupid.

What's funny is how idiots like Olberman, Butch Maddow and Screwball Matthews spend more time talking about this instead of Joe Biden's "generated crisis" comments.

Heaven forbid Palin had said what Biden said. This is why nobody takes the mainstream media seriously.

LOL... (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/22/AR2008102201645.html)



Palin said if she and husband Todd had had a sixth child, they had already picked a name for a boy joining siblings Track, Bristol, Willow, Piper and Trig.

"I always wanted a son named Zamboni," she said.

They are re-writing the Daily Show as we speak.

Okay, I hate kids, but even I don't wish shit like that on them.

She donates them to charity after she's done wearing them...

FYI

Even if she does, she's still forcing everyone who donated to her campaign to basically donate to charities. While I don't mind republicans being forced to donate to charities...I'd still be pissed if that was my money.

Hopefully this hasn't been posted yet:

http://break.com/index/crazy-protester-interrupts-palin-interview.html

(Just click the link, Chris)

Just give up Wil.

LOL, I thought for sure that was a screamer. Happy to see it wasn't.

LOL, I thought for sure that was a screamer. Happy to see it wasn't.

me too. I turned my speakers down in anticipation near the end. Good link.

Just yesterday, I started a charity that collects outrageously expensive clothing for distribution to the needy. I'll have to see if I can work something out with the campaign.

Vinny would like to donate his shoes to your charity.

xanadu,
If I donate to your charity my outrageously expensive outfits someone else bought for me, is it OK if I go back and buy those shits back (at not so outrageously high prices)? I do consider myself 'needy', FWIW.

xanadu,
If I donate to your charity my outrageously expensive outfits someone else bought for me, is it OK if I go back and buy those shits back (at not so outrageously high prices)? I do consider myself 'needy', FWIW.

The charity does not accept payment for the clothes. Ideally, we would like to find middle managers who are having trouble securing promotions because of clothing related discrimination. Feel free to donate the clothes with an essay on company letterhead that explains how you have been have been victimized by unfair clothing related standards.

Thanks in advance.

LOL, I thought for sure that was a screamer. Happy to see it wasn't.

I can promise you will never EVER see a link from me that's a screamer. I think those things are unbelievably stupid.

Even if she does, she's still forcing everyone who donated to her campaign to basically donate to charities. While I don't mind republicans being forced to donate to charities...I'd still be pissed if that was my money.

Well your not so why the fuck worry about it?

I'd still be pissed if that was my money.


Shut up...

Obama's doing the same thing.

Double standard.

Shut up...

Obama's doing the same thing.

Double standard.

OK Bill.

Well your not so why the fuck worry about it?

Actually, since McCain opted for public financing, we are all paying for these expenses. So stop telling me not to worry.

Shut up...

Obama's doing the same thing.

Double standard.

So Obama spent public money on $150,000 in clothes? Wow, breaking news I guess since NOBODY has reported he spent a cent of our money.

On second thought, I think that the campaign could actually bring in a ton of money if they auctioned off the clothes. The sad aspect is that they would probably fetch more if not dry cleaned (I doubt the clothes are machine washable). There seem to be a lot pervy conservatives that like her a little too much.



Projecting through the Screen [Rich Lowry]

A very wise TV executive once told me that the key to TV is projecting through the screen. It's one of the keys to the success of, say, a Bill O'Reilly, who comes through the screen and grabs you by the throat. Palin too projects through the screen like crazy. I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.

Actually, since McCain opted for public financing, we are all paying for these expenses. So stop telling me not to worry.
No, we're not.

It is illegal, per McCain-Feingold, for the McCain campaign to expense personal clothes. It is NOT illegal for the RNC to do so. It's the RNC who dolled up Palin.

With the exception of a particularly nice tailored suit for the DNC convention, Obama's been wearing the same clothes he wore as a Senator. He didn't do some dramatic "fashionista blitz" with campaign dollars.

On another note, it looks like Palin is really energizing her base with her hot talk on immigration!

http://crooksandliars.com/cernig/palin-betrays-base-immigration-amnesty

So there isn't any money changing hands between the RNC and the McCain camp funds from tax payers?

There are restrictions on how the RNC can direct resources to McCain, but apparently Project Beltway is ok:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189136&title=project-beltway

Wicked Sarah Palin + Blowjob Mouth =
http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/5580bbef82

And I'm sure L.A. hockey fans are just loving this... too bad for her that it's not a swing state.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/hockey/nhl/10/24/blues.palin.ap/index.html

ST. LOUIS (AP) -- Blues goalie Manny Legace left after one period Friday night with a hip injury that occurred when he slipped on the carpet placed on the ice for Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin.

Palin fucks up in her "special needs" advocacy speech.

She pokes fun of research done with fruit flies, when the most significant breakthrough in autism research utilizies...fruit flies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=183gePCTy7w

It's not just autism, but tons of other avenues for biological research. Some of the critical work on Down's Syndrome comes from fruit fly-based research (which is getting lost in the pander to autism). It's clear Palin didn't get the memo on how chromosome separation research is typically done.

This fucking "war on science" idiocy MUST END! Science is not just another opinion! People who pervert science, turning it into "just another opinion" or belief system, need to be reeducated or put down. That goes double for the scientists themselves and research firms who create and perpetuate distrust in science to fortify their incomes and egos.

FWIW, here's something I Google'd up explaining what the particular fruit fly research is all about, and why we're sending money to <gasp> France:

http://www.anevolvingcreation.net/standup/2008/10/republican-vice-presidential-nominee.html

The baby isn't hers anyway, right? And if it is, its just a prop, right?

"Thank God she's not going to have to be president from Day One."
-Joe "I'm dumber, not a plumber" Lieberman

The baby isn't hers anyway, right? And if it is, its just a prop, right?


I don't doubt that it is hers, but I do think they used the baby at the convention to tug at heartstrings.

And that BO has tons of experience.

And that BO has tons of experience.

I don't know if that is directed to me or not, but if it is, I don't know what you are implying.

Please be direct.

It was Mxy's 'prez day one' sentence.

Whew, thanks.

I know it's taken out of context somewhat (but only somewhat).
It's funny Palin stuff, which is why I posted it.

I deleted a longer "war on science" rant and wanted to lighten things up a bit.

Laying pipe for Palin:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27374946/

http://i250.photobucket.com/albums/gg278/Nsaney/sarah_palin_pvt_pyle.jpg
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03fcGelz8Hw

That.was.awesome.

Palin would work with Israel's `Jewish agency'
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h21ZbzgPbTVRftcJPT5vkHkonY5QD942UJNG0
(Yeah, it's taken somewhat out of context for LOL, but the context isn't much better. The Jewish Agency's primary mission is to relocate Jews to Israel. I'm sure Sarah would want to get rid of a bunch of Jews in Florida right now.)

None of these comments are from the Dems, so hopefully Tahoe doesn't simply write them off:


(CNN) -- Some aides to Sen. John McCain say they weren't happy that running mate Sarah Palin went off script Sunday and turned attention back to the controversy over her wardrobe.
The Alaska governor on Sunday brought up the recent reports regarding the Republican National Committee's $150,000 spending spree on clothing and accessories for the Palin family.
Palin denounced talks of her wardrobe as "ridiculous" and declared emphatically: "Those clothes, they are not my property."
"Just like the lighting and the staging and everything else that the RNC purchased, I'm not taking them with me," she said at a rally in Tampa, Florida.
A senior McCain adviser told CNN that those comments "were not the remarks we sent to her plane." Palin did not discuss the wardrobe story at her rally in Kissimmee, Florida, later in the day.
A Palin (http://topics.cnn.com/topics/Sarah_Palin) aide, however, told CNN that the governor clearly felt like she had to say something to defend herself, because "that's really not who she is."
Over the weekend, sources told CNN that long-brewing tensions between Palin and key aides to McCain were on the rise.
Several McCain (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/john.mccain.html) advisers suggested that they have become increasingly frustrated with what one aide described as Palin "going rogue."
A Palin associate, however, said the candidate is simply trying to "bust free" of what she believes was a damaging and mismanaged roll-out.
McCain sources say Palin has gone off-message several times, and they privately wonder whether the incidents were deliberate. They cited an instance in which she labeled robocalls -- recorded messages often used to attack a candidate's opponent -- "irritating" even as the campaign defended their use. Also, they pointed to her telling reporters she disagreed with the campaign's decision to pull out of Michigan.
A second McCain source says she appears to be looking out for herself more than the McCain campaign.
"She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," this McCain adviser said. "She does not have any relationships of trust with any of us, her family or anyone else.
"Also, she is playing for her own future and sees herself as the next leader of the party. Remember: Divas trust only unto themselves, as they see themselves as the beginning and end of all wisdom."
A Palin associate defended her, saying that she is "not good at process questions" and that her comments on Michigan and the robocalls were answers to process questions.
But this Palin source acknowledged that Palin is trying to take more control of her message, pointing to an impromptu news conference on a Colorado tarmac last week.
CNN contributor and Republican strategist Ed Rollins said Palin was "mishandled" during the earlier part of the campaign, and as a result, "she's become a target of a lot of ridicule."
But, he said, "She definitely is going to be the most popular Republican in this country when this thing is over."
The Politico reported Saturday on Palin's frustration, specifically with McCain advisers Nicolle Wallace and Steve Schmidt. They helped decide to limit Palin's initial media contact to high-profile interviews with Charlie Gibson of ABC and Katie Couric of CBS, which all McCain sources admit were highly damaging.
In response, Wallace e-mailed CNN the same quote she gave the Politico: "If people want to throw me under the bus, my personal belief is that the most honorable thing to do is to lie there."
But two sources, one Palin associate and one McCain adviser, defended the decision to keep her media interaction limited after she was picked, both saying flatly that she was not ready and that the missteps could have been a lot worse.
They insisted that she needed time to be briefed on national and international issues and on McCain's record.
"Her lack of fundamental understanding of some key issues was dramatic," said another McCain source with direct knowledge of the process to prepare Palin after she was picked. The source said it was probably the "hardest" to get her "up to speed than any candidate in history."
Yet another senior McCain adviser lamented the public recriminations.

BTW, a commercial with some of these quotes could be devastating to their uphill battle.

I think this is a LOL@Todd:


"I am glad, though, that she brought up accessories also. Let me tell you a little bit about a couple of accessories, didn't think that we would be talking about it, but my earrings — I see a Native Americans for Palin poster," she said. "These are beaded earrings from Todd's mom who is a Yupik Eskimo up in Alaska, Native American, Native Alaskan.

"And my wedding ring, it's in Todd's pocket, 'cause it hurts sometimes when I shake hands and it gets squished," she continued. "A $35 wedding ring from Hawaii that I bought myself and 'cause I always thought with my ring it's not what it's made of, it's what it represents, and 20 years later, happy to wear it. And then finally the other accessory, you bet I'm a gold — I'm a blue star mom. I'm wearing this in honor of my son who is fighting over in Iraq right now defending all of you."


So she bought her own wedding ring for 35 bucks? Nice work Todd.

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/ooooooh-barracu.html

So consignment is like lay-away only you get the clothes before you pay them off? Maybe it's better described as rent-to-own?


BTW, that link sounds like someone who will end up in jail.

http://washingtonindependent.com/15633/palin-maverick-or-rogue
"If there is any one place she has gone rogue, it is against her teleprompter."

http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i91/nonnie9999/movies/thejob.jpg

Republican Senator John Ensign says "certainly Joe Biden is much more qualified than Sarah Palin is.":
http://www.lasvegassun.com/blogs/ralstons-flash/2008/oct/30/sen-john-ensign-says-palin-not-presidency-biden-mo/
And former Secretary of State Eagleburger concurs. "I don't think at the moment she is prepared to take over the reigns of the presidency."
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=73827&sectionid=3510203

http://images.huffingtonpost.com/2008-10-28-monster.jpg

It might be time for a Young Republican subforum.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c186/simonquilty/robert_bluey.jpg

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/Republican%20Cocksucker.bmp

Palin thinks the press are stepping on her First Amendment rights!
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html

Tabarnak!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbEwKcs-7Hc
et le transcript:
http://www.brandonsun.com/story.php?story_id=113060

What's that Beach Boys song McCain likes to sing??
Must be a favorite of Palin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D9LofMCa8A

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/426/palin2012.gif

Palin thinks the press are stepping on her First Amendment rights!
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/10/31/palin/index.html
Greenwald usually isn't that harsh. He's known for being obsessive about his research, and before he draws a conclusion he'll cite several examples, and in a lot of ways even his really critical articles are a bit dry. So that article was really brutal.

Wow, I just read Greenwald's blog for yesterday. Holy shit, I love this guy!


...The Washington Post's Ombudsman, Deborah Howell, today wrote a column claiming that one reason that The Post and other papers are losing money is because they are "too liberal"; have had "more favorable stories about Barack Obama than John McCain," and "conservatives are right that they often don't see their views reflected enough in the news pages." To mitigate newspapers' financial problems, Howell decrees: "the imbalance still needs to be corrected." She adds: "Neither the hard-core right nor left will ever be satisfied by Post coverage -- and that's as it should be."

What if the actual facts -- i.e., "reality" -- are consistent with the views of "the hard-core left" and contrary to the views of the "hard-core right"? What if, as has plainly been the case, the conservatives' views are wrong, false, inaccurate? What if the McCain campaign was failing and relying on pure falsehoods and sleazy attacks, and The Post's coverage simply reflected that reality? It doesn't matter. In order to sell more newspapers, according to Howell, The Post's news coverage must shape itself to the Right and ensure that "their views [are] reflected enough in the news pages" (I don't recall Howell complaining when her newspaper -- according to its own media critic -- systematically suppressed anti-war viewpoints in its news pages and loudly amplified pro-Bush and pro-war views).

In Howell's view, The Post shouldn't determine its news reporting based on what is factually true. Instead, it should shape its coverage to please this discredited, failed political movement -- in order to sell more papers. That corrupt formula is, of course, what is now meant by "journalistic balance" -- say what both sides believe and take no position about what is true -- and it is precisely that behavior which propped up this incomparably failed and deceitful presidency for so long. The establishment media bears much of the responsibility for what has happened during the last 8 years, and amazingly enough, the lesson many of them seemed to have learned is that they didn't go far enough ("we're too liberal; we need to accommodate the Right more"). If there is an Obama presidency, watch for them very quickly to re-discover the long-dormant concept of "adversarial behavior."

Palin gets pranked by the Canadians (http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2008/11/03/shock.jocks.prank.palin.cnn)

http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581


NEWSWEEK has also learned that Palin's shopping spree at high-end department stores was more extensive than previously reported. While publicly supporting Palin, McCain's top advisers privately fumed at what they regarded as her outrageous profligacy. One senior aide said that Nicolle Wallace had told Palin to buy three suits for the convention and hire a stylist. But instead, the vice presidential nominee began buying for herself and her family—clothes and accessories from top stores such as Saks Fifth Avenue and Neiman Marcus. According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.

A Palin aide said: "Governor Palin was not directing staffers to put anything on their personal credit cards, and anything that staffers put on their credit cards has been reimbursed, like an expense. Nasty and false accusations following a defeat say more about the person who made them than they do about Governor Palin."

McCain himself rarely spoke to Palin during the campaign, and aides kept him in the dark about the details of her spending on clothes because they were sure he would be offended. Palin asked to speak along with McCain at his Arizona concession speech Tuesday night, but campaign strategist Steve Schmidt vetoed the request.

Palin...DONE.

And I still contend that it's likely that McCain and Palin will never speak to each other again.

Like I said about an earlier article on her prospects for 2012. She might be elected to something important in the future but she'll be in jail not too long after that. She's looking to cash in anywhere she can and isn't really concerned about how she does it.

I bet she still runs in 2012, but get's about as far as Rudi did.

I don't think she will wait for 2012 to capitalize on this new fame.

The recriminations begin. From the McCain campaign:

- Palin thought africa was a country.
- Palin didn't know what countries are in nafta
- Palin refused preparation for the Couric interview and the campaign thought the questions were both predictable and not out of bounds.

...with lots more promised in the coming days.

MWZHTJsR4Bc

Thank you Sarah for being our lulzcow.

FoxNews? Wassup? You watching Fox these days?

I get it...just when it works for you.

FoxNews? Wassup? You watching Fox these days?

I get it...just when it works for you.
I just can't tear myself away from the circular firing squad [smilie=stirthepot.:

Normally thats a term for the Dems. But you posting things from FoxNews deserves a lol, imo.

I guess it's kinda lolworthy. Not the first time I've posted a fox news clip though. When I come across them on the internet in some context that seems interesting I'll have a look.

When it comes to sitting down in front of the TV, I tend to steer clear of all the 24-hour news channels--fox, msnbc, cnn.

Anyway, back to the Palin unity lolz... (http://www.newsweek.com/id/167581/)


According to two knowledgeable sources, a vast majority of the clothes were bought by a wealthy donor, who was shocked when he got the bill. Palin also used low-level staffers to buy some of the clothes on their credit cards. The McCain campaign found out last week when the aides sought reimbursement. One aide estimated that she spent "tens of thousands" more than the reported $150,000, and that $20,000 to $40,000 went to buy clothes for her husband. Some articles of clothing have apparently been lost. An angry aide characterized the shopping spree as "Wasilla hillbillies looting Neiman Marcus from coast to coast," and said the truth will eventually come out when the Republican Party audits its books.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/blog/2008/nov/05/john-mccain-sarah-palin


An exasperated McCain has been telling friends in recent weeks that Palin is even more trouble than a pitbull.

In one joke doing the rounds, the Republican presidential candidate has been asking friends: what is the difference between Sarah Palin and a pitbull? The friendly canine eventually lets go, is the McCain punchline.

This thread could be it's own friggin subforum.

And there is no end in sight for the material that is yet to come.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z17cZv-hmFQ

I can't wait for the 'God told me he wants me to be president' campaign:


Palin said she is leaning on her faith and looking for any future opportunities.
"I'm like, OK, God, if there is an open door for me somewhere, this is what I always pray, I'm like, don't let me miss the open door," she said in an interview that aired Monday on Fox News.
"And if there is an open door in '12 or four years later, and if it is something that is going to be good for my family, for my state, for my nation, an opportunity for me, then I'll plow through that door."

It's a little late now, but I had a chuckle when William Baldwin referred to the GOP nominees as "McBush and Bible Spice."

This thanksgiving I'm thankful for Sarah Palin. So funny. I hope she never shuts up.

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LOL @ MSNBC's propaganda there:

"Turkeys die as Governor Palin takes questions from media."

I was just coming here to post this.

TURKEY HOLOCAUST

I'm tired of Laughing at Palin. Seriously can she just vanish for at least 4 years. Mocking the dunce ditzy MILF whore of the class gets boring after awhile.

NOT WHEN TURKEYS DIE

I was just coming here to post this.

TURKEY HOLOCAUST

Twas a Russian turkey.

Twas a Russian turkey.

If true, she probably had been observing them for quite sometime from home.

holy fuckingcreepy!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5bju8ybvSs

This thanksgiving I'm thankful for Sarah Palin. So funny. I hope she never shuts up.

k8DTSPzU0RI


She has a Burberry Nova Scarve on in this video. That's high-roller stuff right there, just check eBay.

I can't wait for the 'God told me he wants me to be president' campaign:

We already have your messiah in office.

She has a Burberry Nova Scarve on in this video. That's high-roller stuff right there, just check eBay.

Scarf?

lol. scurvey matey.

This thanksgiving I'm thankful for Sarah Palin. So funny. I hope she never shuts up.

k8DTSPzU0RI

This is so good that it has to be fake. How is she this unintenionally stupid?

Maybe "the rich" refer to a "scarf" as a "scarve"?

Karma got Manny (the bolded part not the concussion):


ST. LOUIS -- St. Louis Blues (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/clubhouse?team=stl) goaltender Manny Legace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=531) has been placed on injured reserve with a mild concussion.
Legace, who took a knee to the head from Anaheim's Ryan Carter (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=3441) in Wednesday night's 4-2 loss, was placed on the injured list Thursday night because of a concussion.
Chris Mason (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/players/profile?playerId=581) made his 10th start and stopped 24 shots in a 6-2 loss to the Los Angeles Kings (http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/clubhouse?team=los) on Thursday night. Ben Bishop, recalled from Peoria of the AHL to back up Mason, played the third period and gave up two goals 37 seconds apart. This is Legace's second injury of the season. In October, he strained his left hip flexor and missed several games when he slipped on carpet placed on the ice for then-vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin, who dropped the ceremonial first puck.

So the Guv and the First Dude are grandparents now.

While I find the lady repulsive, young neocons everywhere are probably now referring to her as a GILF.

So the Guv and the First Dude are grandparents now.

While I find the lady repulsive, young neocons everywhere are probably now referring to her as a GILF.
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I heard the name was Trip.

I don't think she's hot either. She has scary eyes and a man jaw line. I suppose with a bag over her head...

Awkward Palin interview (http://www.yahoo.com/s/1085245)
(Yahoo's headline, not mine)

Of all peeps that I ever thought would ground that dirty old racist white mean, Letterman, Sarah frickin Palin! LMAO

Fuckin old pervert, losing to Palin.

Take it however you want to take it.

Well, to be fair, that's what she is doing with his comments so she's at least allowing others to play her game too.

Amazing how some peeps want to put this on her. Its HER fault.

Jeezahs

Dirty old perverted white dude says this shit, but its Palins fault. It must be nice to have the media on your side.

She's at the game with her 14 year old daughter and Pervert says "BTW, Palin's daughter was knocked up by Alex Rodriguez after the 7th" or something and how are y'all spinning this?

Letterman is no longer funny. That ended years ago. We all know that. Now he is just a grumpy old fucktard with contempt for conservatives. Thats all he can be cuz he isn't funny anymore.

So now the fuck face goes after the underaged children of conservatives. He's pathetic.

But spin it how y'a'll want.

The joke's in bad taste whether it's about Palin's 14 year old daughter Willow, Palin's 18 year old daughter Briston, or the fucking Octomom.

But having said that, I really don't think Letterman (or, more likely, his gang of writers) knew or cared who was actually in the stands with Sarah Palin, and that the "knocked up" was indeed a tip of the hat to Bristol Palin. Trying to position Letterman as a "dirty old man" is delusional. Had she simply said "hey, my 14 year old daughter was the one at the game" and not tried to play it for more than it was or credit him for "slutty flight attendant" jokes, Letterman's ratings wouldn't have increased and there'd simply be a gaffe and a contrite apology. So, LOL at Palin for misplaying the media yet again.

Hell, if we wanted to be serious about rape, Letterman's donating hundreds of thousands to shelters for abused kids while Palin was pushing rape victims to pay for their own rape kits, and is the governor of a state who has the highest per-capita incidence of rape. She could've invited him as a gubernatorial way to donate to an Alaskan rape shelter as a penance. That would've been the sort of gamesmanship that gets one looked at as something other than a fucking joke for a 2012 presidential candidate.

"The joke is in bad taste" is an understatement. He crossed the line and should be fired like Don Imus. 2 dirty old, prolly somewhat racist white dudes, who's time has passed. They've become grumpy and spiteful. At least Imus helps kids with cancer. Letterman should fired.

But go ahead, circle the wagons for one of your libs.

You spend more time telling me what Palin did wrong than what Letterman did wrong. I just wish y'all could see the forest from the trees sometimes.

And, btw, if she runs in 12, I'm voting some other shit that Hermy types like.

Palin responded to an attack on her daughter by complimenting the attacker on likening her to a slutty flight attendant. How savvy! She managed to turn something offensive into dumbassery. LOL!

"The joke is in bad taste" is an understatement. He crossed the line and should be fired like Don Imus. 2 dirty old, prolly somewhat racist white dudes, who's time has passed. They've become grumpy and spiteful. At least Imus helps kids with cancer. Letterman should fired.

But go ahead, circle the wagons for one of your libs.

You spend more time telling me what Palin did wrong than what Letterman did wrong. I just wish y'all could see the forest from the trees sometimes.
And, btw, if she runs in 12, I'm voting some other shit that Hermy types like.

In my forest, a governor of the state of Alaska, and someone who might very well be the shining star in the Repulsican party, and who might actually someday be a, or The leader of this country poses far more to worry about (due to the fact that so many dumbasses would probably vote for her just because of the R next to her name and because those (you) guys are cornered rats who will do anything to get out of the corner)--well, this person DOES give one more cause to pause than a fricking comedian.

We simply must stop Palin before the Repulsicans find any more use for her other than putting her picture in the "After" half of a poster about the dangers of being a political party supported mostly by extremist christian idiots and old farts who have lost every bit of zest for life they've ever had and are now taking out their anger at spending their most productive years being married to a complete fucktard they hate on America.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/13/leno-told-similar-joke-ab_n_215261.html

Nice catch, Vinny.

There is no way Letterman meant the joke to be about her 14 year old. Anyone that thinks that is an idiot. He just didn't do his homework. Yes, he should be blamed for it. No, he shouldn't be considered ok with sex with minors. I have no problem blaiming him for the joke though.

The problem I have with Palin is that part she talked about Letterman's excuse being lame. Why not attack Letterman for not doing his homework before making the joke? Why does she throw it out there that Letterman might actually have been talking about her 14 year old? Why say the "take it however you want to take it" BS? Just say what you feel instead of being devisive.

By stirring the pot with both of those comments she only keeps the fire hot on this issue. She went off track and talked about how Obama said the families should be off limits (and had to jab in there that the other side did not respect that, as if that had anything to do with this issue with Letterman), then she continues to stoke the fire on this.

She should have just said the joke was in bad taste, regardless of who it was targeted at. That she wants a formal apology, and that her family is putting it behind her. But no, she wants to keep in the spotlight rather than protecting her daughters.

If you saw the "pass the baby routine" at the RNC convention, "protecting her kids" certainly didn't seem like one of her priorities.

Yeah I saw that. That's up to her, she can put whatever image she wants out there. It's her call (she's the parent). But don't be hypocritical and play both sides of the coin. She wants them off limits when it's bad PR, but in the spotlight when it's good.

She brings up Obama, but they declined their daughters to have interviews in the Brian Williams special, even after he won. He's been consistent. he wants this about politics and fixing the country, not about exploiting his daughters.

Palin would probably farm her kids out to make snuff films if it got her some more "Oh, poor lil girl" publicity. She's nothing but a rakish whoreface.

There is no way Letterman meant the joke to be about her 14 year old. Anyone that thinks that is an idiot. He just didn't do his homework. Yes, he should be blamed for it. No, he shouldn't be considered ok with sex with minors. I have no problem blaiming him for the joke though.

The problem I have with Palin is that part she talked about Letterman's excuse being lame. Why not attack Letterman for not doing his homework before making the joke? Why does she throw it out there that Letterman might actually have been talking about her 14 year old? Why say the "take it however you want to take it" BS? Just say what you feel instead of being devisive.

By stirring the pot with both of those comments she only keeps the fire hot on this issue. She went off track and talked about how Obama said the families should be off limits (and had to jab in there that the other side did not respect that, as if that had anything to do with this issue with Letterman), then she continues to stoke the fire on this.

She should have just said the joke was in bad taste, regardless of who it was targeted at. That she wants a formal apology, and that her family is putting it behind her. But no, she wants to keep in the spotlight rather than protecting her daughters.

This is where you lose all credibility. She is AT THE FUCKING GAME WITH HER !$ YEAR OLD. HE SAID WHAT HE SAID!

But if you took it the way he said it, you are an idiot.

LMMFAO!

Seriously, Y'all need to get a grip.

Yeah I saw that. That's up to her, she can put whatever image she wants out there. It's her call (she's the parent). But don't be hypocritical and play both sides of the coin. She wants them off limits when it's bad PR, but in the spotlight when it's good.

She brings up Obama, but they declined their daughters to have interviews in the Brian Williams special, even after he won. He's been consistent. he wants this about politics and fixing the country, not about exploiting his daughters.

"SHE" "SHE" "SHE" "SHE" etc, etc etc...

Some perverted white dude says something about here daughter and its "SHE"z fault, "SHE"z should have blah blah blah...

Circle the fuckin wagons...LMMFAO

"The joke is in bad taste" is an understatement. He crossed the line and should be fired like Don Imus. 2 dirty old, prolly somewhat racist white dudes, who's time has passed. They've become grumpy and spiteful. At least Imus helps kids with cancer. Letterman should fired.

But go ahead, circle the wagons for one of your libs.

You spend more time telling me what Palin did wrong than what Letterman did wrong. I just wish y'all could see the forest from the trees sometimes.

And, btw, if she runs in 12, I'm voting some other shit that Hermy types like.

NO. Letterman and Palin should square off on CNN. I never believed in this "fire them" bullshit. Letterman is NOT going to get fired, and Imus shouldn't have been fired. What SHOULD have happened to Imus is him getting humiliated by the entire Rutgers basketball team by confronting them face-to-face. Humility sticks with you. Getting fired simply means early retirement on your multi-million dollar ranch in Montana until a cable network calls and says "We'll pay you $$$$ to return to TV".

Once again, spoken like a true Fascist. Thanks, Tahoe.

NO. Letterman and Palin should square off on CNN. I never believed in this "fire them" bullshit. Letterman is NOT going to get fired, and Imus shouldn't have been fired. What SHOULD have happened to Imus is him getting humiliated by the entire Rutgers basketball team by confronting them face-to-face. Humility sticks with you. Getting fired simply means early retirement on your multi-million dollar ranch in Montana until a cable network calls and says "We'll pay you $$$$ to return to TV".

Once again, spoken like a true Fascist. Thanks, Tahoe.

OHFG...LMFAO

Cuz I said the same thing that happened to Imus should happen to Letterman, I'm a facist.

Keep posting, man. Funny shit.

OHFG...LMFAO

Cuz I said the same thing that happened to Imus should happen to Letterman, I'm a facist.

Keep posting, man. Funny shit.

No, asshat. I said calling for someones termination because you don't like what they said is fascist.

Are you still online? Don't you have a pile of books to burn?

Faranfuckinheit 454 bitch nose.

I'm just looking for some consistency out these friggin libs. They make the rules up as they go.

Faranfuckinheit 454 bitch nose.

I'm just looking for some consistency out these friggin libs. They make the rules up as they go.

Adolf fucking Hitler, you shitlicking assclown (bitch nose????)

Tahoe's got a valid point to some degree. I think he's derailing it by going off the deep end a little, much as Palin has derailed her righteous indignation by going overboard and having an undignified demeanor. But, I agree that it's bullshit to dig on the politicians kids if they stay out of the spotlight (e.g. aren't making stump speeches in campaigns). Of course, we live in a culture where bad taste is allowed as long as it's amusing to some segment of people. Hell, Jerry Springer and Family Guy run during hours in most media markets.

Letterman apologized. I've never been a fan, but I do have to agree that I don't think he knew the 14 yr old was at the game when he made the joke. On the most conservative network of them all, he can't make that joke knowing what he knows now. Sorry Tahoe... yeah he fucked up bad, but I don't think he fucked up knowing that.

Tahoe's got a valid point to some degree. I think he's derailing it by going off the deep end a little, much as Palin has derailed her righteous indignation by going overboard and having an undignified demeanor. But, I agree that it's bullshit to dig on the politicians kids if they stay out of the spotlight (e.g. aren't making stump speeches in campaigns). Of course, we live in a culture where bad taste is allowed as long as it's amusing to some segment of people. Hell, Jerry Springer and Family Guy run during hours in most media markets.

I could only imagine if Rush said something about the Obama daughters getting knocked up by a sports figure.

Y'alls panties would be soooooooooooooooooooo in a bunch.

But instead, some of y'all just let it ride.

If either daughter had previously gotten themselves knocked up, I'm sure the tasteless joke parade would come. Leno told the same kind of joke last year and no stink was raised.

No one ever said a word about Chelsea.

I could only imagine if Rush said something about the Obama daughters getting knocked up by a sports figure.

Y'alls panties would be soooooooooooooooooooo in a bunch.

But instead, some of y'all just let it ride.

That's a huge stretch. Palin's daughter did get knocked up at an age that is underage for a lot of the country, and she is legal everywhere now. Either way, my man briefs would be fine, and I could care less what some over the hill network comedian says. I really didn't care in the first place, and wouldn't have cared either way. I just think the SHIT STORM has been funny since day one. Big deal, some dumbass said some dumbass shit. Dumbasses do it every day, and I don't care because I also don't read People. Oh no some guy said something!! Fuck it.

"SHE" "SHE" "SHE" "SHE" etc, etc etc...

Some perverted white dude says something about here daughter and its "SHE"z fault, "SHE"z should have blah blah blah...

Circle the fuckin wagons...LMMFAO

I believe you called someone out on "credibility"

You call Letterman "perverted"--yet you are all over the Champaing Room and gourd knows where else for your intranets porn.

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I believe you called someone out on "credibility"

You call Letterman "perverted"--yet you are all over the Champaing Room and gourd knows where else for your intranets PRON.


Fixed

This is where you lose all credibility. She is AT THE FUCKING GAME WITH HER !$ YEAR OLD. HE SAID WHAT HE SAID!

But if you took it the way he said it, you are an idiot.

LMMFAO!

Seriously, Y'all need to get a grip.

So you honestly think he intentionally made the joke about the 14 year old?

If so, I'm not bothering with this discussion again because there is no hope for any logic out of you (not that I'm surprised in a political thread).

How could a fucking joke gone bad have turned into a freaking partisan political issue? Man, Tahoe, this one is a reach even for a zealot like you. I'm thinking there may be an abortion clinic bombing in your future.

Here are some things I know:

* The joke was pretty bad.

* Most of Letterman's jokes are pretty bad.

* The joke's premise relies on a total disregard for Sarah Palin as an individual.

* The guy tells sarcastic jokes for a living.

* Letterman has always been funny (more so in the past than he is now), but he's never been "nice." He's difficult, prickly, and moody, and he takes a great deal of pleasure in making his guests uncomfortable. Remember when he interviewed Paris Hilton?


DL: So I wanna know more about what it was like when you went to jail -

PH: Yeah, I kinda don't wanna focus so much on my jail experience as much, I'm more into what happens now, and the projects I've started up since then.

DL: Well, honey, this is where you and I are going to have to agree to disagree.
* He has to disregard the dignity of public figures, if he wants to keep making sarcastic jokes. If he starts apologizing for this, it doesn't stop.

* Sarah Palin is probably not thinking that her political career ends as Former Governor of Alaska.

* Sarah Palin has fans and people who want her to be on a much bigger stage. Some of those people are working right now to make this happen.

* Before this Letterman thing went down, there wasn't much in the news about Sarah Palin.

Conclusion: Letterman is kind of a jerk, that's always been true. But it has always been accepted because he uses his jerky attitude to make things funny. He has been way meaner to other celebrities over the years - Oprah, Cher, Madonna, Marv Albert, Phil Collins, and Regis Philbin - right to his face. If he starts apologizing for his jokes now, he might as well call it quits.

In addition to that, no one is talking about Sarah Palin right now except the Sarah Palin People. This whole Letterman thing is obviously a big opportunity for her. You can tell that this is true because every time he apologizes, she seems more offended than before. If he keeps talking about her, including these apologies, he feeds the Sarah Palin media noise machine.

If Letterman had adopted the "yeah, I smell like the titty bar, so the fuck what?" attitude that he usually has, this whole thing would have died a long time ago.

Swami is :cogent:

That's a huge stretch. Palin's daughter did get knocked up at an age that is underage for a lot of the country, and she is legal everywhere now. Either way, my man briefs would be fine, and I could care less what some over the hill network comedian says. I really didn't care in the first place, and wouldn't have cared either way. I just think the SHIT STORM has been funny since day one. Big deal, some dumbass said some dumbass shit. Dumbasses do it every day, and I don't care because I also don't read People. Oh no some guy said something!! Fuck it.

Old white man talking about a 14 year old girl...not cool.

I believe you called someone out on "credibility"

You call Letterman "perverted"--yet you are all over the Champaing Room and gourd knows where else for your intranets porn.

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Typical liberal response...attack me, cuz you can't stay on topic.

So you honestly think he intentionally made the joke about the 14 year old?

If so, I'm not bothering with this discussion again because there is no hope for any logic out of you (not that I'm surprised in a political thread).

^ Amazing?

So her 14 year old daughter is at the game with her, but you're drinking his koolaid that he didn't mean that "Rodriguez knocked up her daughter that was at the game where ARod is, he meant the daughter up in Alaska"

LMAO

Keep circling them wagons of that perverted old white dude of yours.

Here are some things I know:

* Letterman is fucking douche for attacking someones family. He crossed the line. It isn't about a joke (so disregard all the other bullet points I've made) just get this creepy old white fuck off the air.


* The joke was pretty bad.

* Most of Letterman's jokes are pretty bad.

* The joke's premise relies on a total disregard for Sarah Palin as an individual.

* The guy tells sarcastic jokes for a living.

* Letterman has always been funny (more so in the past than he is now), but he's never been "nice." He's difficult, prickly, and moody, and he takes a great deal of pleasure in making his guests uncomfortable. Remember when he interviewed Paris Hilton?


* He has to disregard the dignity of public figures, if he wants to keep making sarcastic jokes. If he starts apologizing for this, it doesn't stop.

* Sarah Palin is probably not thinking that her political career ends as Former Governor of Alaska.

* Sarah Palin has fans and people who want her to be on a much bigger stage. Some of those people are working right now to make this happen.

* Before this Letterman thing went down, there wasn't much in the news about Sarah Palin.

Conclusion: Letterman is kind of a jerk, that's always been true. But it has always been accepted because he uses his jerky attitude to make things funny. He has been way meaner to other celebrities over the years - Oprah, Cher, Madonna, Marv Albert, Phil Collins, and Regis Philbin - right to his face. If he starts apologizing for his jokes now, he might as well call it quits.

In addition to that, no one is talking about Sarah Palin right now except the Sarah Palin People. This whole Letterman thing is obviously a big opportunity for her. You can tell that this is true because every time he apologizes, she seems more offended than before. If he keeps talking about her, including these apologies, he feeds the Sarah Palin media noise machine.

If Letterman had adopted the "yeah, I smell like the titty bar, so the fuck what?" attitude that he usually has, this whole thing would have died a long time ago.

While Letterman 'knocks up' more nutjobs and has more bastard children. Now I don't care how many children he has out of wedlock, till he attacks under age family members of politicians with differing views than his...then his children are brougt in the mix. See how you like it you cocksucking whore of a person.

Kettle calling whatever the fuck...

just get this creepy old white fuck off the air.
It's ON, motherfucker!
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Tahoe... you really just can't get past the fact that he wasn't making the joke about the 14 yr old?

Tahoe... you really just can't get past the fact that he wasn't making the joke about the 14 yr old?

Are you kidding me? Tahoe still can't get past the fact that Franklin Pierce isn't on Mt Rushmore.

Tahoe... you really just can't get past the fact that he wasn't making the joke about the 14 yr old?

Why should I? Cuz he saw a shit storm coming and back tracked?

Seriously, why do you believe he wasn't talking about the 14 yo?

Everyone does realize that Letterman was probably only reading that list for a third time or so when they taped, right? His writers wrote it, his producers approved it, they give it to him in the afternoon to run through a few times and then they tape the show. Dave probably had no idea who was at the game, when the game was, etc, he just gets handed some material with a brief explanation of context and he delivers the bit.

Now maybe the producer who approved the joke should get fired, maybe the guy who wrote it should, but getting mad at Letterman over all this is like getting mad at Anthony Hopkins because Hannibla Lecter killed a bunch of people.

Now certainly none of this excuses the fact that the joke was in poor taste or that it probably shouldn't have been given, but come on, Dave's just playing a role and this all has gotten blown way out of proportion.