I wonder if they'll even use the MLE if they get too far over. $5m = $10m

Good question. They have to add somebody up front. TD and Bonner isn't enough. They don't really have any wiggle room either. They could move Mason and Bonner, but they only make between 3-4 mil each. You might be able to shave a mil or two with cheaper backups but that is it.

That's why I think Bowen might end up back there. He'll probably take the vet's minimum.

They may need 3 more players to do that, too.

they need a couple bigs to do that. Time to call up EC and CWebb!

That will really help the youth movement, too.

Unless they've decided to trade Manu, which I can't see right now because of his injuries, they'd be selling low.

It has been speculated, though, he's got a new contract coming soon, I think.

After next year his contract is up. I would assume they'd just sign him for a couple years (probably cheaper if he continues to decline) and go into all out rebuilding mode in a few years.

Basically they'd have TP past his prime, TD and Manu possibly retired, and RJ moved on (unless he took a pay cut). They will be drastically thin on talent unless they find steals like TP. They could have a lot of cap space if they time it all right, but no real draw (an aging TP isn't that big of a draw).

And they'll have a new coach, too. (Probably Avery)

They could probably sign a couple players cashing in on big pay days, but that's probably it.

I don't think San Antonio fans are freaking out about the rebuilding years.

Their front office has proven to be pretty good over the last 5 years.

Building around Parker will be difficult, but it's not impossible. Wouldn't he be the "new" Steve Nash in 2 or 3 years?

One stud big man and that team could rebuild pretty quickly IMO

One stud big man and anyone can rebuild pretty quickly.

Except the Raptors, they're shit.

The Spurs are in luxury tax territory now. I'm wondering if they know something we don't about luxury tax holidays, like the sweepstakes a few years ago that led to Mike Finley being a Spur.

The Spurs are in luxury tax territory now. I'm wondering if they know something we don't about luxury tax holidays, like the sweepstakes a few years ago that led to Mike Finley being a Spur.


One reason teams such as the San Antonio Spurs are willing to move into luxury-tax range is the reward for staying below the tax won't be as large in the upcoming season. Last year teams that stayed below the luxury tax received $3 million each from their cut of the money put into the pot by the tax-paying teams. Next season, according to one team executive, the payout for the non-tax teams will be about $1.4 million. One reason for the decrease is that two of the top-paying tax teams from last season, the New York Knicks and Dallas Mavericks, will have much smaller payrolls this year. The Knicks' tax bill, for example, could drop by about $20 million.

motherfuck

blair...blair..in the 2nd round...

Signed Marcus Haislip today from Europe.

I'd say that solidifies they are FAR from 'DONE'.

LMAO - as if he's gonna make a difference.

Technically GD was right.

The core of Duncan, Parker and Manu are DONE.

The core of Duncan, Jefferson, Parker and Manu aren't done yet.

It's only just begun. Right GD?

LMAO - as if he's gonna make a difference.

Technically GD was right.

The core of Duncan, Parker and Manu are DONE.

The core of Duncan, Jefferson, Parker and Manu aren't done yet.

It's only just begun. Right GD?

Um, no. That's not how it works. They still have the core.

Fool's right.

If RJ had normal-size ears, he'd be "core".

Tony Parker, Injured

by Marcel Mutoni

It is times like these when one begins to understand the reasons behind Gregg Popovich occasionally sporting a beard befitting a man quietly assembling bombs in a log cabin somewhere.

The stress involved with having to watch two of his three stars partake in international hoops annually - where they at times suffer catastrophic injuries - would be enough to drive anyone a little batty.

The good news for Popovich and the rest of the San Antonio Spurs organization, is that Tony Parker’s injury, according to TP, is considered to be relatively minor. The Express-News reports:


According to French sports newspaper L’Equipe, Parker left the game on a crutch after 12 minutes with a sharp pain in his right thigh after colliding with Austria’s Stjepan Stazic. Though that injury soon subsided, Parker’s right ankle became swollen. By Saturday morning, it was clear the ankle was the greater issue.

In a statement released by the French Basketball Federation, Parker said that the collision caused “a blow to my thigh, and my ankle also turned.” Parker described the MRI of his ankle as “reassuring,” calling the injury “a minor sprain, without any ligament damage.”

Parker is expected to be ready when France’s Eurobasket 2009 qualification effort gets back under way on Aug. 5 against Italy in Cagliari.
Here’s to hoping that Popovich is somewhere, with absolutely no access to the news.

http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/07/tony-parker-injured/

Luckily, Litte Tony seems to have esaped, uninjured.

:little tony:

Who cares?

Fuck the Spurs.

Buecher and Stein both picked the Spurs to win the title on Simmons (who also picked them) podcast.

I love it.

Feeding the beast, baby.

The beast = ...? you? this thread? WTF in general?

All of it. The World.

I want everyone thinking that they are going to win it all this year.

It only makes it more painful for Spurs fans, like you guys.

Dice & Theo are collateral damage.

Trouble in paradise.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/52233317.html

SAN ANTONIO (AP)—Tony Parker(notes) will miss the next game for the French national team after the Spurs confirmed a mild right ankle sprain in their star point guard.

The Spurs brought Parker back to San Antonio for tests after their leading scorer injured his ankle and thigh in a collision with an Austrian player last week. Parker is not expected to play when France plays Italy on Wednesday in a European championship qualifier.

The Spurs said Parker will rejoin the French team this week, and that his return will depend on how his ankle responds to treatment.

Parker has said earlier tests showed no signs of ligament tears or serious complications.

Buecher and Stein both picked the Spurs to win the title on Simmons (who also picked them) podcast.
The caveat was that Odom was going to Miami though...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Av2xpgzO6_HA4ZCsv2STjx68vLYF?slug=jy-spurs080809&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

good read, to long to post.

spurs will be legit imo. ranked 2 behind the Lakers.

That team is deep, experienced...maybe a little too experienced, but they will be good.

Blair is just gonna pound on everyone.

David (Waterford, Mich.): Who do you think will win the Larry O’Brien Trophy this year? Is there a way the Pistons can trade Rip, Maxiell and Kwame Brown for Tracy McGrady and his expiring contract?

Langlois: I think you can make a case for any of five teams, David – the Lakers, San Antonio, Orlando, Cleveland and Boston. If San Antonio can stay healthy – and, really, there are legitimate health concerns with all five teams – I’d put my faith in Gregg Popovich and Tim Duncan to find a way to win one last title to put the exclamation point on a terrific run. Houston has a real chip in McGrady’s expiring contract. The Rockets can let him walk and have enough cap space to sign a maximum free agent if the salary cap doesn’t fall to the low end of NBA projections. So any trade package that would tempt Houston to give up McGrady before the trade deadline would have to provide the Rockets with a package they like enough to move them out of next summer’s free-agent market. His status will be monitored as vigilantly as anyone’s this season.

Playing against Olympiakos tonight

Lost to the Clippers

LOLZ

Lost to the Clippers

LOLZ

The Clippers without Camby, Gordon, Kaman or Telfair.

The Clippers without Camby, Gordon, Kaman or Telfair.
Clippers had an unfair advantage being without Telfair.

Didn't they beat the Cavs? Oh yeah... LeBron had the flu and only played 20-odd minutes. :)

Jordan had the flu

Manu had to get rabies shots, lol

Manu had to get rabies shots, lol
He must have had a really bad case of the flops.

Currently 2-3

They're fortunate that their division looks to be bad outside of Dallas (the Rockets will fade).

Parker is really fucking struggling right now.

I think as he returns to form the Spurs will start clicking. They're playing George Hill a lot. That kind of tells you how fucked up things are in SA.

Jefferson and Dice seem to have fit right in, too.

I'm not saying they're not DONE but with Duncan, Parker, Manu, Dice, Ears and some role players you can't just shit on 'em.

OKC walks into san antonio and walks out a winner....

The Spurs drop out of the top 8 out west.

Excellent!

If I only I could remeber how to post pics

[Insert Mr. Burns here]

<img>url</img>

only "[]" instead of "<>"

There is also a button just above the text box where you enter your post that has a picture of a mountain on it. You have click that and just enter the URL there and it will post the pic for you.

Not a mountain, a volcano.

cool - thanks boys.

Not gonna post Burns though - the moment has passed.

Under .500

Fucking Parker missed the game.

I wish I got some news about that B4 the game started, I could have subbed him out and played CDR!

Dallas had 3 starters out (Marion, Howard, Dampier). It will be interesting to see how good they are at full strength, especially if Cuban decides to add a piece or 2 at the deadline.

well the Spurs were pretty much without manu and parker though

Injuries are a significant part of what makes them DONE.

Indeed, and that's completely fair.

No green text.

:stein: (Spurs apologist)


San Antonio is 2-7 against teams over .500

The Spurs invested heavily in Richard Jefferson and Antonio McDyess over the offseason, somersaulting past the luxury-tax line to make the two former Olympians the centerpiece of an extensive roster renovation. So far, the contributions from the team’s two most costly offseason additions have sprung from a decidedly mixed bag. The 34-year-old McDyess, signed as a free agent to a three-year deal worth as much as $14.5 million, is averaging 5.5 points and shooting 46.8 percent, career-lows should they last. He is also averaging 5.7 rebounds. A scoring star with Milwaukee and New Jersey, the 29-year-old Jefferson — obtained in a June trade with the Bucks and due to earn $29.2 million between this season and next — is averaging 13.4 points per game, his lowest output since his rookie season with the Nets. Still, Spurs coach Gregg Popovich remains bullish on the team’s offseason investments. He continues to urge patience with his newcomers as they adjust to their new team, and their new team adjusts to them. “What I’m learning is we lost more corporate knowledge than I thought,” said Popovich, whose team is 13-10 after a 2-1 Western road trip. “It’s taken a little bit more time than I thought to get everybody on the same page.”
— San Antonio Express-News

Now they're 23-13, after a 20-point win against the Lakers. TD is averaging 20 and 10. Yup, definitely done.

A nice win, their 4th of those 23 wins that have come against teams with a winning record.

Lakers have lost 4 in a row on the road, and Kobe left in the 3rd quarter with a back injury.

But a nice win, indeed.


"They took our kids to school".

The Spurs finished a disappointing six-game homestand at 2-4. If there was a season the Spurs needed their annual Rodeo Road Trip to come together, this would be it.

Parker’s timetable for a return is unknown, but San Antonio will want him back for what comes next: An eight-game, 3 1/2 -week road trip that figures to weigh heavily for the underachieving Spurs. Once the Spurs get back, they’ll have just 12 home games the remainder of the season.

San Antonio went 8-8 in January and seemed to show that its problems run deeper than just breaking in a slew of new faces. Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has lately deplored the lapses in San Antonio’s usually trademark defense.

George Hill pulls a Sean Salisbury

http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/09/san-antonio-spurs-nude-pictures-george-hill-naked-photographs/

Great read!

Spurs' patience with Jefferson running low (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-jeffersonspurs020910&prov=yhoo&type=lgns)

I watched part of the game last night and he did look terrible. His shot was off and he didn't play any defense either.

His deal is the same length as Tay. Would you move RIP to get his shorter deal (ideally I would want an expiring)? For a pick? Maybe with Max in there too?

Isn't it funny that acquiring Dice and Jefferson was supposed to beef up their line-up?

They've been nothing but mediocre since Jefferson pulled on their uni.

Cause he's a fucking loser, that's why. Some guys just bring the team down. And he's one of them. The only reason he's ever been on a winning team is because he had some sick twisted fuck like Jason Kidd making him look like an All-Star.

Parker and Manu and TD are too busy doing their thing and can't be bothered trying to cater to this joker. Tayshaun would be a much better fit on that squad.

Tayshaun + Kwame for Blair + Jefferson lol (does it even work?)

What do we owe them to help them out of that huge mistake?

You guys are nuts.

The concept of this thread is pretty lolworthy by this point.

What do we owe them to help them out of that huge mistake?

You guys are nuts.

We don't owe them shit but:

I'd happily take Blair for Kwame

Jefferson's deal expires after next season (just like Tay's)

So, ummm:

We gain a young prospect in Blair
and a shitty SF with a soon to be expiring contract

by trading an expiring bum
and a shitty SF with a soon to be expiring contract.

What's not to like?

The tiny ears?

The tiny ears?

Umm, yes.

But I wouldn't care about his ears. I'd be too busy watching Blair show Maxiell how the fuck you're supposed to play as an undersized PF with heart (and shitty knees? they havent hurt him yet)

I'd help them out for the Knicks pick that is owed to them. Is there a deal in which we can get that? Manu is a FA, are they planning on keeping him? Maybe they'd want Gordon to replace him?

I'm hoping that was a joke. Gordon for the Knicks pick? They're one of the teams who's GM isn't completely retarded.

I'm hoping that was a joke. Gordon for the Knicks pick? They're one of the teams who's GM isn't completely retarded.

Didn't Chris say Manu and the Knicks pick the Spurs are owed for BG?


I'd help them out for the Knicks pick that is owed to them. Is there a deal in which we can get that? Manu is a FA, are they planning on keeping him? Maybe they'd want Gordon to replace him?

Yes, Chris did mention Gordon for Manu and the Knicks pick.

Are the San Antonio Spurs the next Detroit Pistons? (http://blog.mlive.com/fullcourtpress/2010/02/are_the_san_antonio_spurs_the.html)


The Pistons' decline has been obvious, but they are far from the only team that is going to go from a recent stretch of dominance to a big dropoff as they try and find a new identity. The Spurs are catching up with them, quicker than many expected.

LMAO

Didn't Chris say Manu and the Knicks pick the Spurs are owed for BG?



Yes, Chris did mention Gordon for Manu and the Knicks pick.
I know what he said. Yes, they'd be moving Manu as well, but if they're giving up the Knicks pick, they can get something more than Gordon.

The concept of this thread is pretty lolworthy by this point.

It's quite simply the finest messageboard thread in the history of messageboarding.

Spurs have life...lil bit they do.

Ginobli is in Rips head

Can't even beat the Pistons.

DONE.

Yeah, but they were without :little tony:

Can't even beat the Pistons.

DONE.

They've been nothing but mediocre since Jefferson pulled on their uni.

Cause he's a fucking loser, that's why. Some guys just bring the team down. And he's one of them. The only reason he's ever been on a winning team is because he had some sick twisted fuck like Jason Kidd making him look like an All-Star.
And this was stuff that any reasonable coach would've seen about RJ back at the 2004 Olympics. This is hardly a revelation.

I do believe there are certain players that actually do jave the potential to seriously fuck up a team.

Jefferson is just the one I can point at without thinking and say: "Every single team he's been on (except Jersey with Kidd) his team has sucked monkey spunk and although his individual stats look pretty damn good he's just shit"

I bet Pop thought that too, but likely thought with Duncan, Manu, Parker and Dice (the anti-Jefferson) the potential for fucking it all up would be non-existant.

Pop thought wrong and now the Spurs are wasting one of the last good years Duncan has got left.

Personally, I feel for them. I am so upset I'm willing to trade Richard Hamilton to the Spurs for Jefferson. This way they'll be OK.

And they can do a sign and trade with Manu and get a decent SF to team with Duncan, Parker and Rip for the next 3 years as they chase Championship Dreams....

Jefferson is just the one I can point at without thinking and say: "Every single team he's been on (except Jersey with Kidd) his team has sucked monkey spunk and although his individual stats look pretty damn good he's just shit"


lol@this.

Yes, Pop knew that RJ was terrible, but he wanted him anyways just to make things more challenging/fair.

Spurs are 3-14 when trailing at the half.

These cats are DONE, buyout please.

http://dimemag.com/2010/03/jerry-stackhouse-puts-richard-jefferson-on-blast/

“I just don’t think he’s as good as everybody talked him up to be, to me,” said Stackhouse. “I mean, I think he has some talent, he’s an athlete but a lot of the best basketball we’ve seen from Richard Jefferson came when he played with Jason Kidd, when he was just pretty much spoon-fed at the basket and was able to run out and just be an athlete. When it comes down to a half-court set and just being able to play half-court basketball I don’t think he’s that special of a player, in my opinion. It’s just one of those things where it’s just not a good fit. It wasn’t a great fit for him in Milwaukee when he was here. He had some big games but really nothing special. He wasn’t a guy that really helped them go to another level as far as wins and losses. And I think they’re finding out in San Antonio that he may not be the right fit for what they want to do. If I know Popovich like I know him I could very easily see him not in a San Antonio uniform next year.”

^that's good shit.

I like the thought of Stackhouse calling other players out for being flawed.

He's actually pretty accurate, but it is ironic, yes.

And y'all thought Stackhouse and I didn't know each other.

We're like peas and carrots, man

Done like Morrissey.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s49/alva1977/Morrissey/morrissey-dances.gif

Real Madrid offering Ginobili $13.5M deal - http://bit.ly/brAelQ

I'd take it. Dude won't get more than the MLE when his contract is done here. Spurs aren't winning a title anytime soon. Why stay?

I hate the guy, but I think he'd certainly get more than the MLE, especially with all of the cap room floating around there.

There are only 89 teams with 'significant' cap space this year

1. Nets
2. Knicks
3. Heat
4. Timberwolves
5. Bulls
6. Thunder
7. Clippers
8. Kings

Who will sign him on that list?

It would have to be a contender and they would have to have less than 9-10 mil that could otherwise be spent on a bigger name.

I don't think that you could really say that any of those teams WOULDN'T sign him. Some may be less likely than others, but if the NYK (or the Nets) strike out on LeBron, would they take a Bosh/Manu consolation prize?

I can see him on the Bulls, for sure.

Just saw this and thought it was interesting/relevant.


Dave Pierce (eSellOut.com)
I recently read that DeJuan Blair could be used in a sign and trade deal with Toronto for Chris Bosh in the offseason. Any validity to this?

David Thorpe (12:32 PM)
Sure, but he'd be just one piece. Raps would want Manu and more.

I don't think that you could really say that any of those teams WOULDN'T sign him. Some may be less likely than others, but if the NYK (or the Nets) strike out on LeBron, would they take a Bosh/Manu consolation prize?

I can see him on the Bulls, for sure.

Most of those teams only have room for one star. Teams like Chicago and Miami will try and add Boozer or Bosh or Amare.

I could see NY or NJ adding him if they got Lebron (or even ahead of him to entice Lebron), but not if they could get a better player instead and still have Lebron space.

The Bulls apparently think they have a shot at Wade. If they miss on wade, Manu is a decent fallback.

They don't want a big beside Noah at all?

I know they like Gibson, and if they get into the top 10, they get to keep their lottery pick (outside of 10 and the Bucks will swap places with them, Salmons deal).

And, of course, they can always trade for a big, with Hinrich being the most likely to go.

And they only have 6 guys under contract for next year ~$31m, lol.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/chicago.htm

I know they like Gibson, and if they get into the top 10, they get to keep their lottery pick (outside of 10 and the Bucks will swap places with them, Salmons deal).

And, of course, they can always trade for a big, with Hinrich being the most likely to go.

Anyone outside the top 10 (probably top 5-6) won't be much of a scorer up front. They could get Aldridge maybe at 10, but he won't fit with Noah great.

If you can get Wade you do it and worry about a big later. I think if you can't get Wade you go for Amare/Bosh/Boozer so you have an inside scorer. I wouldn't touch Manu unless I had a low post player already. Besides, you have a much better chance of finding a Manu like player with their/Bucks pick than a decent big.

Just another victim...of the New Jersey Nets.

No Ginobili, no Parker, no winning.

Not having those guys on a regular basis is all part of being DONE.

They've actually been playing better without Parker than they were with him.

Barkley used a nice chunk of time last night basically calling the Spurs frauds.

Said thet they are loading up on wins vs. the terrible bottom half of the league, and when the games start to matter (playoffs) that they won't be able to beat Lakers, Mavs, Thunder, et al.

It's only Barkley, but hey.

and of course, it's timed for when :littletony: is out for a couple weeks nursing that bruised knee he got from HumPilates

Spurs are 6-1 against those 3 teams (only loss to Mavs) so far.

It's about time for things to start falling apart here, per the script.

I had to click on this to see how many pages...61. Remarkable.

Hey G-Dan, did you see how my Blazers beat 'em? That was sweet.

They're all sweet.

How would you rate Splitter vs. Monroe?

How would you rate Splitter vs. Monroe?

Monroe. All day long.

Also, It's Happening.

Also, unless they end up drawing the David West-less Hornets, I actually think there's a good chance that the Spurs could get taken out by the #8.

Donecan, Manu, Little Tony and Dice all injured.

LOLZ.

I did lol when I saw how Ginobili got hurt the other night.

Nice 9 pt 3rd quarter for YOUR Blazers, TBro!

Sounds like our offense was hot in that quarter.

In fairness, I think Ginobli's the only one really hurt...

There are reports that the Hornets and Grizzlies are both tanking to get to the Spurs (and to avoid the Lakers).

With the Spurs luck, they'll get the broken Hornets.

Bynum hurt again. Lol, fag.

"No I in team, but..." lol

Mangoo hurt again.

LOL @ Jerkovich. Lauded as a genius and showered with praise for always knowing the right time to rest his guys ... whoops!

?

?
Ginobli got hurt in the last game.

Glan, come on, you can want/think the Spurs are done all you want but how can you hate on Popovich? I think we'd all kill for him to coach the Pistons.

He's a good coach, but I hate the guy.

I would not kill to have a coach that I hate with the Pistons.

Always been a Pop fan.

Thanks Vin.

Is this on?

check

check

check... 1... 2...

It's too bad you don't have someone to disagree with you in this thread, like you do in the Rondo thread (P).

Oh, where oh where have my detractors gone?


Perhaps I have run them all off.

I'm firmly of the opinion that the Spurs ain't over until they're over.
Being down 2-1 in a series doesn't make them "done".

Glan's been calling them done for 3 years now.

And hasn't been proved wrong yet.

By that standard, the Pistons have been done since 2004.

Technically, yes, but it's quite a bit easier to project with the gift of hindsight.

"DONE" lost meaning as a bold prediction when we discovered it just meant "won't win another championship." And we pointed out how screwed up the belief was that the Pistons were "less DONE" than the Spurs back in .. '08 I think.

It's just a bit now. Has been for a long time.

So you're saying "done" is DONE? Sounds about right.

I don't remember saying (or thinking) that it was all that "bold". It was/is entertaining having fun with those that still thought/think that this core actually had another title in them, especially when it was pretty clear that they were built to fail over a 100 games-ish season.

I gotsta have that "The Last Roundup" graphic they just showed.

I don't remember saying (or thinking) that it was all that "bold". It was/is entertaining having fun with those that still thought/think that this core actually had another title in them, especially when it was pretty clear that they were built to fail over a 100 games-ish season.

Such a lame bit.

Such a lame bit.

Says the SPURS fan.

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7127/donejz.jpg

Yes. Yes they are.

Bye now!

miss u

The Spurs are done, you guys.

Start the Lakers and/or Celtics thread, please.

NO U

How is convincing Jefferson to opt out so they could re-sign him (and save some short-term cash) working out?

DaJuan Blair M.I.A.?

Height challenged, so Splitter got his minutes (to no avail).

Parker says that age has finally caught up with the Spurs. "At the start of the season I said this was our last chance," he said. "Tim and Gino (Manu Ginobili) are getting old. It's going to be tough to regenerate ourselves. (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/inte/p/newsid/46841/arti.html) "We will always have a good team but we can no longer say that we're playing for a championship." FIBA.com (http://www.fiba.com/pages/eng/fc/news/inte/p/newsid/46841/arti.html)

Associated Press headline:

"Parker backs off comments that Spurs are done"

Spurs coach Gregg Popovich has some interesting comments about Tony Parker’s recent criticism to the French media about the team’s chances of winning a championship with its current roster. Popovich told KMOL-TV sports director Don Harris that he doesn’t think much about Parker’s thoughts about his team’s composition. “You think I care what Tony Parker says?” Popovich told Harris in the snippet from the interview, which is available here. “You think Tony Parker is gonna coach when he quits? Why would I listen to Tony Parker?” (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/09/pop-says-he-doesnt-care-what-tp-says-about-spurs/) San Antonio Express-News (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/09/pop-says-he-doesnt-care-what-tp-says-about-spurs/)

When reminded by Harris that Parker already owns a team in France, Popovich went further. “He can own but he can’t coach,” Popovich said. “Get your –– out there and play, Tony. Tie the score. But talk about basketball, I don’t need Tony for that.” (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/09/pop-says-he-doesnt-care-what-tp-says-about-spurs/) San Antonio Express-News (http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/06/09/pop-says-he-doesnt-care-what-tp-says-about-spurs/)

Adrian Woj reporting that Spurs are talking to Raptors (#5) and Kings (#7) about Tony Parker, lol.

Was Brent Barry still a Spur when TP and Mrs. Barry started doing their hot talk thing?

Spurs’ Attempt to Trade Tony Parker, Richard Jefferson Futile (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/735157-nba-rumors-which-free-agents-will-attract-the-most-interest-in-offseason/entry/100848-nba-trade-rumors-spurs-attempt-to-trade-tony-parker-richard-jefferson-futile)

So they went through all of the trouble of getting RJ to opt out last year so they could lock him up long-term (and save some immediate short-term cash) and this week they tried to slip him in as a poison pill in Parker trades to no avail.

I would be critical of this, but the vaunted Spurs front office is beyond reproach.

I would be critical of this, but the vaunted Spurs front office is beyond reproach.[/SIZE][/FONT]

Yeah... since the birth of this thread, the initial concept has made it about the most irrelevant thread here. That's saying a lot.

I don't know about "rebuilding their forward position in one night". That's some big talk for a couple guys in a poor draft class. Not to mention the fact that what the Spurs need is some low post power now that Duncan is dying. Not more wings to make up for signing Jefferson.

Who's gonna take TWO big contracts before the CBA?

DUNcan realizes it.

http://i.imgur.com/x3aDM.gif

Dirk Nowitzki thinks Mavs look old and slow. Read http://shar.es/W2CR7

SPURS'D.

They held on too long, just like we did.

Most contenders do.

I realise that it's hard to break up a winning core but in the best interests of the Franchise it must be done at some point.

Better to do it when you can get the most value for your stars rather than do it when it's too late.

How much value does Manu have around the league now? How much value does Jefferson have?

Duncan has earned the right to retire a Spur if he chooses... but he also deserves the right to challenge for another title before he retires. Do the Spurs trade Parker in an effort to improve? Do they trade Blair or Splitter?

I think they've reached the point that it doesn't matter what they do.... they will not be contenders while they have Duncan. He had a great run

RJ was their greatest mistake. Every year that RJ is on their team is an opportunity for RJ to suck in the playoffs.

At the moment, the Spurs are 33-14, first in their division, and just won a game where Tim Duncan literally got a "DNP-Old".

DONE.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/545633/TIM-DUNCAN-OLD.jpg

Gla now gets DNW - Olds

Did Not Watch

DNW - BW3

Yeah. That makes a lot of sense.

I am pretty impressed how good this old Spurs team really is, they now won like 20 in a row, they are hot at the right time, not even the new shiny stars from OKC can stop them. Spurs management proved once again they are fricking great, obviously they need their old stars healthy and ready to go, but Spurs got a good supporting cast around them, and they delivered so far in the playoffs. It would be too sweet if another old ass veteran team would bet BronBron & the Heat in the finals, again.

@PriscoCBS
So the Spurs are beatable. Looked slow tonight.


And old.

@stephenasmith
It is bananas down here in OKC -- my first time in this place. And SA's suddenly looking old isn't gonna quiet these folks down one bit.

And slow.

@RealSkipBayless
Tim Duncan looked so revitalized this season - till last 2 games. Looks slow, tentative, awkward, trying dumb shots, wimping out at rim.

@stephenasmith
Gotta watch the rest of this game and see if San Antonio has just hit a wall! They suddenly look old, tired and immobile. Let's see.

We're witnessing a changing of the guard, right before our eyes.

WTF TRANSLATOR...

DONE.

Spurs are done!

It's in - > http://www.plasticpledge.org/assets/uploads/PaperBag.jpg

Hornets up 42-35 on the Spurs in the second quarter.

UPSET ALERT

Gla still gets DNW - Olds

Lost to the Clippers at home last night. Pop's head almost exploded while calling his team out afterwards.

Great stuff.

Hey, guess who feels like showing off how smart he is (again)?


No Duncan, Parker, Ginobili or Green for Spurs tonight against Miami.
http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2012/11/29/spurs-will-face-heat-without-big-three-green/


LOL @ TNT

They're 9-1 on the road

Right, so here's a crazy concept, since they're blowing everybody away, stagger their rest.

I would lol if the league fined them for tanking.

Can't wait to see BONNER score 30+ and lead the Spurs to a W.

I would lol if the league fined them for tanking.

Sounds like it might be a reality!

I LOVE THIS GAME!!

MIAMI -- San Antonio Spurs coach Gregg Popovich sent stars Tim Duncan, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili, plus key role player Danny Green, home for Thursday night's game against the Miami Heat, choosing rest instead of playing them in an early-season showdown.

NBA commissioner David Stern promised repercussions for the move, saying the Spurs will face "substantial sanctions" for their approach to the game.

"I apologize to all NBA fans," Stern said in a statement. "This was an unacceptable decision by the San Antonio Spurs and substantial sanctions will be forthcoming."



http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=8692304

We've done this before in hopes we're making a wiser decision and not a macho decision.

WTF TRANSLATOR

"See how smart I am?"

Who the fuck does David Stern think he is?

Pop and San Antonio make choices to benefit their franchise and their players - the Spurs' owner pays their salaries! The NBA has no right to tell a franchise who it can and can't play on any given day!

All the Spurs had to do it show up with the right amount of players and play the game... they did that and lost!

Why are they going to face sanctions? Because they didn't try hard enough to win the game?

Maybe the Bobcats should be fined after losing to OKC by 45 points! Is that better or worse than what the Spurs did?

If they claim the Spurs deliberately rested players to "ensure" they would lose can't the Spurs claim the Bobcats deliberately field a sub par team in order to get ping pong balls?

Can of worms, pandora's box... this is bullshit... and I don't even care who gets fined for what!

I wonder what the ratings for the game were, relative to a typical TNT Thursday.

The NBA... we know drama!

Who the fuck does David Stern think he is?

Pop and San Antonio make choices to benefit their franchise and their players - the Spurs' owner pays their salaries! The NBA has no right to tell a franchise who it can and can't play on any given day!

All the Spurs had to do it show up with the right amount of players and play the game... they did that and lost!

Why are they going to face sanctions? Because they didn't try hard enough to win the game?

Maybe the Bobcats should be fined after losing to OKC by 45 points! Is that better or worse than what the Spurs did?

If they claim the Spurs deliberately rested players to "ensure" they would lose can't the Spurs claim the Bobcats deliberately field a sub par team in order to get ping pong balls?

Can of worms, pandora's box... this is bullshit... and I don't even care who gets fined for what!

I think it's just as much about the fans that bought tickets and the tv network partners.

I'm with P on this one... every year teams rest their players at the end of the season so they can have fresh legs for the playoffs... and what about the tanking teams... now they have to get league approval?... Indeed a slippery slope.

Just a reminder that Adrian Wojnarowski does some bang-up work with his NBA articles:

David Stern stumbles again in his failed culture war against the Spurs, fines franchise $250K (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--david-stern-stumbles-again-in-his-failed-culture-war-against-the-spurs-194828970.html;_ylt=A2KLP4UWSLlQLFMAHgILcykA;_ylu= X3oDMTFoZnA0Y2I3BG1pdANCbG9nIEluZGV4IGJ5IEF1dGhvcg Rwb3MDMQRzZWMDTWVkaWFCbG9nSW5kZXg-;_ylg=X3oDMTFrODdzYXZuBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRw c3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANhdXRob3IEcHQDc2VjdGlvbnM-;_ylv=3)


Stern could've waited until Friday, delivered his substantial sanctions – a naval blockade on the Riverwalk, a ban on Napa Valley imports for Popovich, whatever – but he couldn't help himself. He wanted to embarrass Popovich throughout that national TV game, and wouldn't you know it: Popovich embarrassed Stern because the Spurs coach has a complete understanding of his realm, his team, his players, in a way that Stern has lost touch with that with which he lords over.

GD - I understand that fans paid money to see the Spurs... not some weaker JV team

And I understand the game was on TV

But it was an away game - surely Miami doesn't have trouble drawing a crowd at home? And surely more people don't turn up because they're playing the Spurs? Maybe the Spurs are big draws...I doubt it though, because everyone - even hardcore fans - refer to them as boring!

As far as the TV is concerned - why the fuck does the NBA care? The networks pay what they pay regardless of the ratings for this single game. And if memory serves the league has a locked in agreement worth billions for years to come... by the time the next agreement needs to be signed this single game will be a distant memory

I understand all the BS Stern and his cronies are saying - what I'm saying is this opens up all kinds of questions.

I'm not sure if anyone will ask those questions - but the fact remains the league should not have the authority to dictate which players can get rested and which ones can't. The Spurs pay their salaries and if the Spurs choose to give their employees a day off then so be it.

Would the league step in if Charlotte rested Kemba Walker? Woudl the league step in if we rested Monroe? If the league wouldn't step in for ALL cases then it shouldn't step in at all

I must say Wojo is fucking awesome! He's probably the only guy I read regularly

Cuban says fine was "absolutely ok".


Cuban called the national television contracts "the money train" for the NBA, pointing out that those contracts are the difference in the league being profitable or not "by a long shot."

"We're still a business," said Cuban, whose fine totals from his 13-year ownership tenure are well into seven figures. "Resting the stars for the long haul one game earlier, one game later, sure. Resting when you've got our biggest customer at stake, that's a whole different animal.

DONEcan, lol!

Were the national TV ratings actually hurt by the Spurs big names not showing up??

^ I said the same thing. I tuned in to watch.

@spurs
Injury report: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker (right knee contusion) and Stephen Jackson (personal business) out tonight @ Bulls.

Stern fines $1 million because Pops.

Looks like they'll be done with us soon.
30 points down and no Little Tony.

:little tony:

Spurs continue to be the luckiest franchise ever (Kobe injury, and maybe, eventually, Westbrook injury).

Nash out for Game 3. The Lakers' starters are Darius Morris and Andrew Goudelock. http://cbsprt.co/12wcXCe This is what it has come to.

Sorry to hear about Tim's marriage being DONE and all.

wow, that Tony Parker is a real slimeball.

Little Tony's attorney is representing TD's wife.

Is Brent Barry involved in some way?

They had stood in that losing locker room in Oklahoma City a year ago, and Tony Parker made Tim Duncan a promise that would carry these San Antonio Spurs all the way to Monday night. I'll get you back to the NBA Finals, Parker vowed. We aren't done. You aren't done.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--tony-parker-makes-good-on-vow-to-send-tim-duncan-and-spurs-back-to-nba-finals-070320545.html



BASTARDS!!

*shakes fist at sky*

ESPN tiptoes into exposing what kind of asshole Popovich is.

http://m.espn.go.com/nba/story?storyId=9341250&src=desktop

Done in one more game.

Done in one more game.

Thanks Magic.

Yes.

I win!

Clearly, LeBron is done too:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/lebron-james-announces-retirement,32900/?ref=auto

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@Monroe_SA
.@JMcDonald_SAEN explains why Spurs are likely done free agent shopping http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Pendergraph-is-latest-and-maybe-last-Spurs-4650675.php

How Fox News of you, Glan

Lolled the first time and just lolled again

TMac and the Spurs, both DONE.


#twobirds

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-43974-tim-duncan-spurs-white-walkers-lwaF.gif

I was wrong. Really stupid.

I'm such an asshole. The Spurs are really great.

I was wrong. Really stupid.

I'm such an asshole. The Spurs are really great.

So sick of the hackers messing with this site.

I'm so good in this thread. Gla is so blarg.

Does the "Dump it to Timmy, LOL" gif still work?

Perfect opportunity to change your name to Glan Antonio, G.

Just as I predicted. I knew CGG wouldn't DARE show his face around here. What a schmuck!

Manu and Paddy Mills are hurt!

Can this be the beginning... of the end?!?!

My Spurs continue to amaze me.

So proud to be a fan of this organization.

My Spurs continue to amaze me.

So proud to be a fan of this organization.

Hiring a Russian assistant coach seems so un-American and so typical of the international Spurs. :)

So, so, DONE.

http://deadspin.com/alba-berlin-beats-spurs-on-buzzer-beater-1644012476

^ TROLL

Spurs are done being boring.

http://deadspin.com/maybe-tony-parker-and-the-spurs-arent-dead-yet-1690344746

Forgot to post this last night:

LOL.

After they beat the Bucks?

Now they're going to sign Marc Gasol after Manu and Timmy retire.

The Spurs don't rebuild, they reload.

Forgot to post this last night:

LOL.

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400579293

Just lolled again, thanks!

Are you thanking yourself?

No, you, for being wrong, causing me to pull that link and read about it again.

It looks like you are thanking yourself.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-last-ride-of-the-spurs-dynasty/

One of the reasons they need to be DONE is so hacks stop writing those kind of columns every year.

All this hype about a 6th seed? What gives?

http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2015/story/_/id/12798266/nba-san-antonio-spurs-brink-perhaps-more-elimination

D
O
N
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Ginobili needs to show up. He's getting outflopped by Chris Paul, which is unacceptable.

7 years later and they are finally done