Stylish. I like the fact you pop your collars diddy...I do too.

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Damn, I thought so highly of you guys, only to find out you're douchebags

^ You need to be more concerned with what Jesus thinks of YOU.

Remember what I told you in that PM.

Actually, the pendulum is swinging the other way now, and it does look as if TP will become a Buckeye.
Next update on TP should be in about a half hour.

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Damn, I thought so highly of you guys, only to find out you're douchebags

maybe we can get back to football talk in this thread, seeing how tomorrow is signing day and all.

I hope I don't have to say "Damn, i thought so higly of Pryor, only to find out he's a douchebag"

Word has snuck out that TJ Lawrence is having a change of heart, and is making his decision tonight...UM not out of it.
diddy, nice hair gel application

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TJ Lawrence:http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=60283&sport=1

maybe we can get back to football talk in this thread, seeing how tomorrow is signing day and all.

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ESPN will be covering Signing Day right?

Nvm, ESPNU? pwnt

Next update on TP should be in about a half hour.

TAHOE!!

Perry eliminates lil bro

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Dantonio upon hearing the news:

"Pride Before The Fall"

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same fucking story for the basketball team. cant finish the deal ever. i sure hope terrelle pryor wasnt going t olet this game decide his school.

The basketball team sucks, and Belein AIN'T the guy to revive it. He's gonna run out of steam before he gets close. He needs a Fab Five, and he isn't that kind of recrooter.
Give up on the basketball team, dude. They've been left for dead by UM for ten years now.

nah, i disagree. the system works. we get it to work with the talent we have. we dont need the pick of the litter, we just need a few more able bodies.

Here's a lil sumpin sumpin Tahoe found on the Florida Scout board and he just wanted to share.
It's an interesting read, and a clear indication of why UM needed to go out and get RichGod and Barwis, and stay away from guys like Ferentz and Schiano. UM needs to be aggressive, and getting RichGod and Barwis will put UM up there with the rest of the pack. UM isn;t really lagging, as Lloyd has been a solid recruiter, but RichGod and Barwis are totally "down" with today's young afleet, and their new "Hip" approach, coupled with gallons of chocolate milk are going to shock the world.

The Rich Get Richer:

With National Signing Day less than 48 hours away I thought it would be a good idea to take a look at where all the top players were going to see if I could pick up on any sort of trend and I did, once again the Rich Get Richer.

Every recruiting season it seems as if every member of the Scout.Com top 100 ends up going to a select few teams, the reason it seems that way is because for the most part it’s true. Take this years group of prospects for example, out of the top 100, 90 of them have gone public. The remaining 10 are, Terrelle Pryor, Julio Jones, Jamie Harper, Josh Jenkins, Brandon Harris, Nicolas Perry, TJ Bryant, Jerrell Harris, Marcel Dareus and Corey Liuget. Liuget is a soft verbal to Ron Zook and Illinois but since returning from South Florida admits that he is a bit confused. Two other top 100 members Joe Adams and Ramon Buchanan have been thinking about other schools as well in Arkansas for Adams and Miami for Buchanan.

To date, 10 schools have commitments from 57 of the Scout.Com top 100 or a whopping 57%. Bob Stoops and the Oklahoma Sooners are atop the list with eight as is Ohio State . Southern Cal and Notre Dame are tied for the second spot with seven apiece. That’s four teams that have 30% of the Nations elite players. Urban Meyer and the Florida Gators are tied with Miami and Texas with five top 100 players each. After that, we find Georgia , UCLA and Michigan with four each that makes up 57% of the Scout.Com top 100 for this year. Alabama , Florida State and Pittsburgh all have three while Colorado , Penn State , North Carolina State, Virginia Tech, Clemson , Arizona State, Washington and LSU have two apiece. After that, only eight other teams in the Nation have a Scout.Com Top 100 player at this time. Southern Miss, BYU, Maryland , Stanford , Arizona , Ole Miss, Nebraska and Illinois each have on member of the top 100. All in all, only 29 teams in the Nation have verbal commitments from the top 100 players in the Nation.

Tahoe Note: Choklahoma is not to be worried about, as Stoops isn't getting it done.

Whats the lastest on the Pryor to PSU rumors? Sounds like PSU has gotten in good with his Dad and have convinced him that his son needs to stay home and tomorrow's signing is completely off at least until next week.

FREAKIN AWESOME!!!

Whats the lastest on the Pryor to PSU rumors? Sounds like PSU has gotten in good with his Dad and have convinced him that his son needs to stay home and tomorrow's signing is completely off at least until next week.

FREAKIN AWESOME!!!

from Mike Farrell on the Rivals.com national board:

"Terrelle Pryor just called me a few minutes ago and said he's now not signing tomorrow. He said he's 100-percent sure he's not signing. He said he's going to take an official visit to Penn State for sure, hopefully a weekend visit, and might visit Oregon. He said he is just not sure of his choice as of right now.

"He has had numerous discussions with his father who really likes the way Penn State has recruited Terrelle. Penn State has been to Terrelle's father's house numerous times and had done a good job making him feel comfortable that PSU is the right place for his son.

"So as of now it's OSU, Michigan, PSU and Oregon for his services with no signing date set. He could change his mind again when he wakes up, so I am simply reporting what he's telling me.

"Trust me, he is not doing this for the attention, this kid sounds as torn up about a decision as any I've covered. And he is aware of the reputation that some folks are pinning on him and to that he told me he has to do what is right for him and can't worry about public opinion. He and his family come first and this is an important decision that he's not going to rush for anyone.

"Good news for PSU fans here no doubt."

I guess he's not the Buckeye lock that everyone thought he was. Or he's an attention whore.

Filly: Sorry, but Pryor to either PSU or OSU ain't good for Michigan. Right now, Ohio State is putting together a class that is frightening. They appear to have walked into the sights of Brandon Harris, a five star CB that is still uncommitted. Even if the Buckeyes don;t get Pryor, they will be in just as good a position to land a good QB next year as UM will. UM needs to turn it up more than a couple of notches here. They have a good start with this class, which just got a little better, for sure:

Per Scout

After weeks of deliberation Princeton Junction, NJ LB J.B. Fitzgerald ended any remaining questions about his recruitment Tuesday night. The Rutgers Scarlet Knights were able to persuade him to take another look in the aftermath of the coaching change in Ann Arbor, but in the end the Maize & Blue was strong to overcome.

“I definitely saw some new things,” Fitzgerald said referring to his in-state school. “I grew closer with the staff and the official visit they blew me out of the water. But after a lot of thinking and just weighing it out, I figured Michigan was the best place for me. I thought it out in my mind, my heart, and my gut… and they were all telling me that Michigan is where I need to be right now. I’m going to sign with Michigan tomorrow.”

Glad to see you here in Tahoe's UM thread Moodini. This is where all the action is. This is gonna be a recrootathon. Mailman is committed to it. I am. Tahoe is.

This guy just heard the latest news on the recruiting front:

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It's blowing up guys. It is getting immense. Some "premium" site is relaying info to Tahoe faster than Tahoe can translate it into Latin, then French, then back to English and send it to me:

Ricky Barnum and Onterrio McCalebb are believed to be in the fold. As in Blue fold. As in Blue Man Group. This recruiting class.

BTW: Michigan HAS offered Roy Roundtree. No word yet on what he'll do.

We're here!!

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Pkshhhh! <--beer opening

It looks like I opened a beer and Zip left....AND Zeke left too!

Get to work Tahoe! Show me how you do it. :)

got Zip's #?

Zeke is back!

Star of the Class: Boubacar Cissoko and Sam McGuffie
Sleeper of the Class: Taylor Hill
A roller coaster ride for the Wolverines that has coincided with the coaching change. Through it all though, the maize and blue held onto Boubacar Cissoko and Sam McGuffie, who are the headliners of the class. Throw in a couple more speedy skill guys in Daryl Stonum and Terrence Robinson and a late commit from athletic QB Justin Feagin and the pieces are coming together for Rich Rodriguez and company to install the spread offense. Also, the Wolverines did well instate this year reeling in top linemen like Dann O’Neill and Mike Martin. The Wolverines did an outstanding job landing several hard nosed, athletic prospects on the defensive side of the ball including Taylor Hill, J.B. Fitzgerald and Marcus Witherspoon. With guys like these three you should see the Wolverines switch to a more aggressive and attacking defensive philosophy.
Awaiting a decision from: Terrelle Pryor and Christian Wilson
One that got away: Shayne Hale, Jonathan Baldwin and Cameron Saddler

Keep it coming.

WHERE IS ZIP GALOSHBOOTS?

Ah, the master at work.

Lets go raid the NE Patriot board and say what a douche Bill Beli is

awwwwwwwwwww shizzle

feagin/shaw/barnum all set to announce at 9 AM...looks promsing for all 3.

What the fuck???I was up til 1:00 EST, and none a yalll muthafuckas was here????

Tune in to WTKA. I'm listening via the "intranet", and just heard the JB Fitzgerald interview. Great interview, GREAT kid.

The ball is rolling big time.......

Roundtree says "FUCK U" to Purdue and will be blue.
Barnum says "FUCK U" to Urban Meyer and will be blue.

roundtree to UM...big surprise

shit right on my bitch

4* SHAW TO MICHIGAN

Decommits from Penn State

shaw to UM as well

JickBoy..............do you have any thunder or is everyone stealing it?

Dominick Britt to Jackson St. so it looks like our pipeline to Trotwood-Madison is only a threesome. Sounds like he never had the offer so hopefully he does good things down there.

NO THUNDER AT ALL.

Justin Feagan's LOI has officially been received at Schembechler Hall and he is in the fold. Looks like we're only waiting on a few guys........

Perry -- 11am
Maceleb -- not sure?? (sounds like Auburn)
Pryor -- who the fuck knows when he will tell his dad to fuck off

this is all very exciting.

at the risk of getting yelled at by zip, can you guys give me a clue of who these guys are?

outside of perry and pryor, i dont have a fucking clue.

Oh...my...God. This is better than porn, my Michigan Brothers. I'm glad to see my Michigan Brothers helping Tahoe out with this thing.

Filly: On Scout, last night, Beaver was saying McCalebb looks Blue, actually. Have you heard something different? Beaver was extremely confident about it.

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this is all very exciting.

at the risk of getting yelled at by zip, can you guys give me a clue of who these guys are?

outside of perry and pryor, i dont have a fucking clue.

Pretty much all of them are the caliber of the chick I posted in my last post.

Barnum 6'3 280 FLORIDA decommitt OL--possibly center at UM
Shaw: From OHIO! Fast, 6' wide receiver?slot:DECOMMITT from Penn State, played at Trotwood with Moore and Roundtree

Roundtree: 6'3, 185, great hands, bit of a project??? So what! Should be good, Purdue DECOMMITT


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Shaw is a 4* RB/WR who decommitted from PSU.
Roundtree is a 4* WR who decommited from Purdue.
Barnum is a 4* Center who decommitted from UF.

Shaw is rated the #7 RB in the country, Barnum the #5 C in the nation, and Roundtree the #44 WR in the nation. All fit the spread/speed offense great.

FUCK, NO THUNDER FOR ME.

FUCK, NO THUNDER FOR ME.

Are you possibly the slowest typer in modern American history? You have such great info, but it's seriously like 20 seconds too late everytime..............but it's pretty frickin' funny.

no, its all a rich tapestry.

looks like there might be some fuss concerning Michael Shaw from T-M, does anyone know what is going on with him? I'm reading the headlines in the fort and it looks like something is definitely going down.

supposedly shaw is pissed that the commitment announced before he actually announced it himself. has postponed his announcment to 1:00 pm. who knows now?

yes...thunder.

McGuffie is apparently wavering between UM and Cal...hang on tight boys.

Is McGuffie pissed about Shaw or is it something else that has him freaking out? I know that Shaw is a RB, but I thought it was known that he was being offered as a slot WR because we had none before T-Rob committed last week.

McGuffie is wavering because he is white and a RB.

Right now this is all recruiting day meltdown and innuendo. Hold tight is right, Jick.
Too much rumor and shit out there now. I suggest tuning out for awhile. All these boards are infiltrated with flamers and posters from rival schools. Most of it will die down.
Hard to figure McGuffie wavering at this point so late, so take that shit FWIW.

Remember: Guys like Shaw are last minute steals. Perry would be great, andd you'd have to considder that a loss if he goes elsewhere, but the core of the class (with McGuffie of course) remains intact with a few add ons.

THAT is what's important here.

The McGuffie wavering comment came from a Rivals Mod. Take it for what it's worth.

I feel like a huge douche right now because I've been sitting inside the fort for about 20 minutes hitting 'F5' repeatedly waiting to hear Nick Perry kill my hopes and dreams.

Perry to USC

official?

confirmed by rivals mods.

Yup/ Time to move on for Perry and UM.

I hate that that Carroll can waltz into Michigan and just pluck who he wants. Even though he already goes SIX DEEP with frosh and sophs and juniors at DE, Perry still chose to be a Trojan.
I'd have thought he would have even picked MSU and a chance to build something with DingDongtonio over USC.
Welp, Campbell coming next year still (we hope)

It was over when Perry canceled his UM in home after Carroll had his. Same thing happened last year with ROJO.

His family is thinking of moving to LA. I hear the rent have already been paid in Bush's old house.

Moving on. Grabbed a few and lost a few. This is how the south does signing day. Our classes are usually set by December for the most part.

Things will change with RR and we will go for some 5* until the last possible second.

shaw officially back to UM...could be bad news for mcguff though cuz people believe he was waiting to see what shaw was gonna do.

why would we recruit shaw if it cost us mcguffie? it must be good for us, unless we thought mcguffie was gone anyway.

I'm wondering about RR going after so many "slot types". Does he not have all that much faith in McGuffie? Just a thought.

TRob+Shaw>>>>One Mcguffie

agreed.

Jickboy dont you work anywork?

Nobody works on NLOID!

came down with a sickness...lol

Yeah, Jick. A couple of my afternoon classes got canceled. WTF??? What a coincidence!

I think at this point we have to seriously consider that fact that McGuffie is gone. He has been super solid Blue all the way, even helping with recruiting. Now at the last minute he rolls into Cal???

WTF is Cal? Talk about a fuck who doesn't do shit, it's Tedford at Cal. HYPE HYPE HYPE, and not much to show for it. Shit, at least Perry goes to USC!

Perry's quote on why he picked USC:

“They seem to have a need for defensive ends and for me to come in and have an opportunity to play.”

HUH?

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McCalebb to Auburn.

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I'm checking up on this thread in class. I may not offer anything to it, but I'm here reading every post. Keep up the good work, guys.

Two Oclock and No one has any word from McGuffie. Wondering what's up with him? Think about this instead:

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Here Zekyl show this to your teacher:

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me likey

And this!

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Hope this helps you through clas Zekyl

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Here's a list of all the LOI's that are in as of 2:00

1. Brandon Moore
2. Roy Roundtree
3. JB Fitzgerald
4. Kurt Wermers
5. Elliott Mealer
6. Justin Feagin
7. Dann O'Neill
8. Kevin Koger
9. Ricky Barnum
10. Marcus Witherspoon
11. Michael Shaw
12. Mike Cox
13. Terrence Robinson
14. Omameh - HIS *IS* IN
15. Rocko Khoury
16. JT Floyd
17. Boubacar Cissoko
18. Brandon Smith
19. Mike Martin
20. Taylor Hill

not sent - just because of a funeral, there is no prob, it's coming: 21. Ken Demens

not sent: - McGuffie


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That;s it for now. Nothing left but the talking about it. If McGuffie comes, that gives Michgigan a class of 22. Of course, the Big One got away, Perry. Apparently on the table in front of him at the announcement were three hast: USC, Miami, and MSU. Interesting. But hey, that happens, and we here at the Tahoe Recriting Network Insider wish Nick well. Hard to pass on USC, man.

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stonum is already enrolled, thats why he's not on that list.

Thanks guys, I can now not look at this thread again. Way to be assholes.

what did i do? lol

Jick, i just noticed you Location did you 360 break again? I was thinking about getting one, i got a wii for my birthday but i dont care for it.

havent changed it since my experience about a year ago. i guess i could change that...

Thanks on the Stonum thing, Jick

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Here is what Dann O'Neil said about McGuffie in an ESPN chat earlier today...

While the attention over the past year has been fun, O'Neill is surprised and disappointed by the amount of banter created on various Internet sites such as Rivals.com and Scout.com. Rivals reported Tuesday that Michigan recruit Sam McGuffie, a star running back from Texas, may waver on his verbal commitment to Michigan.

"That's just talk," O'Neill said. "Those people on Rivals are just trying to get more subscriptions. The other recruits and I would know if someone was going to commit. The two kids who did de-commit let us know before they did it so we wouldn't have to find out on Rivals.

"There were rumors about J.B. Fitzgerald going to Rutgers. He and I talked probably more than any other recruit, and he was talking about (Rutgers) before the new coaches were announced, but once they announced Coach Rod, he was set on Michigan.

"McGuffie loves it in Ann Arbor. He doesn't want to go anywhere else."

I hope he's right, but I've got a feeling he's not. I think he was feeling the sun in Berkely, and got scared off by Shaw.

I commented on McGuffie in the recruiting thread. Hopefully if Sam waits, he'll wait until after the dead period (which ends Friday) and RR can call him up and explain that it's recruiting sites that call all these 4* RB's what they are, but RR has plans to use each guy differently.

Here's the deal - Pryor and McGuffie would make this team phenomenally exciting, but they are going to be a potent offense either way.

I'm actually startign to get excited about what a Threet offense could look like, with the occasional Feagin change-of-pace.

And as always, Michigan Men, we must keep our eyes to the future! I know I sound like a broken record, but RR's main focus here had to be keeping the already stellar class together, and for the most part he did. He even kept Fred Jackson, probably more than just for McGuffie, but certainly to help with McGuffie. We have seen him work hard, living out of a suitcase, leaving Rita's hair to run wild all over Michigan, and he has added some quality players to boot.

I agree on Threet, Jethro. Even if Mallett had stayed, he had not much more experience than Threet except for gme experience of course, but Threet was highly recruited, and went to Georgia Tech, and if I;m not mistaken, they run a spread option themselves.

We'll have an exciting, up and down year in 2008, but things are looking good.

OOPS!

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Who wouldn't love Ann Arbor more than Berkeley?

Current Weather:
Berkeley:
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54F

Ann Arbor:
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31F
4-6 inches of snow expected

By the way - I don't mean to intrude on recruiting but this IS my thread and it IS UM relevant -
There had been speculation for some time, but 4 players are off the team.
OL's Alex Mitchell (starter opposite Long for several games past two years) and Jeremy Ciulla. No idea why.
Antonio Bass has fought long and hard but it's over. He'll officially not play again because of his knee.
Finally, Chris McLaurin, TE, also has a career ending injury. Considering the role of the TE in this offense and the incoming talent in Moore and Koger, you had to wonder if McLaurin would play anyhow.

But wasn't McLaurin a possibility to help the basketball team? Maybe not. Maybe it was just Webb and Butler - also both are TE's. I know nothing about Steve Watson's ability.

This offense should move down the field very quickly. Two wide, slot, TE and burner back. If Threet can make quick reads (he's extremely smart) he'll pick the defense apart.

Actually, Berkley weather can be poo. They are on the East Bay, but it is cloudy and sort of clammy alot of the time.

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Bring it Jethro! You are right. You requested anything and everything pertaining to Michigan football, and Tahoe has delievered, and he welcomes any and all UM Football contributors, like this fine young UM fan:

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Been to the Frisco area before (I've been to San Fran, San Jose, Oakland, Berkeley) in April. Weather was nicer than Michigan but we're certainly not talking SoCal climate. I froze my balls off on the fairy ride to Alcatraz. Cal gets no love and he'll be just another player out there, always forgotten because the real football players in California are in LA.

Zip, you really make me want anal.

(no homo)

Jethro's UM Football and Champagne motivating step-away-from-the-computer for 5 and take a quick nap thread. Heavy emphasis on recruiting and female anatomical works of art.

Anyways, i don't really care if mcguffie goes somewhere else at this point. If u-m had someone like beanie wells, i would understand the hesitation, but decommitting because shaw and robinson would just imply weak-mindedness to me.

I've lived in Oakland (which borders Berkeley) and Ann Arbor and the weather is no comparison. SF is often cold and cloudy, but the Bay is some sort of weather buffer which makes Oakland about 10 degrees warmer than SF and blocks most of the clouds. The high temp is 60-80F year round. Scenically, the bay area has cliffs overlooking the ocean, nude beaches and swimming holes, big city type night life, promiscuous women etc. Basically, every quality of life factor favors Cal. However, Ann Arbor does have one huge advantage in that people actually care about the football team. college sports will always be an afterthought at cal no matter how well the team does because the school just doesn't draw students that care about sports and because the local population is more invested in the 49ers and raiders than college football.

Also, I am quite worried about the qb situation if pryor goes elsewhere. Nothing can sink a team faster than a below average qb. A lot of the big upsets from last year occurred when the starting qb went out. I don't know much about threet, but I worry about a guy that couldn't make it at georgia tech because it seems like their qbs have sucked lately.

Nonetheless, I have to give rodriguez credit for a very good class in spite of his late start and all the bs with wvu. The future should be bright once the qb spot is reinforced.

Stop worrying about IF Pryor goes elsewhere, and start worrying about WHEN he goes elsewhere.

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oh my rawd

bust

Actually, Berkley weather can be poo. They are on the East Bay, but it is cloudy and sort of clammy alot of the time.


Actually, the school is inland enough that it thins out the majority of the rain and clouds. By only being a few miles inland the rainfall numbers drop 50%+, so there will be clouds in the sky, but generally you are still in the sun, and the clouds are only off in the distance a bit.

Stanford(Palo Alto) emphasizes this effect even more, only being a few miles from the coast(I think about 15 from the actual coast, and 5 from the bay) and it is very dry.

Admittedly, this is based on my uncle who lives there, and my brief week in the area. So not entirely first hand.

I didn't know so many peeps knew so much about the Bay Area. :)

5:43 p.m.: The Sam McGuffie situation is getting stranger.
"I talked to him," Cy-Fair offensive lineman Chris Lathrop, who signed with Texas A&M this morning, told the Houston Chronicle. "It's like a wedding almost. He got cold feet and didn't come to school. He told me that doesn't know where he wants to go." McGuffie is reportedly now choosing between Texas A&M, Cal and Michigan.

I know that I did live there from 1987-1991. I would say that in general, you really can't complain about the weather in Berkeley when you stack it up against Michigan weather.

Note: I did not live IN Berkeley, but in the East Bay area. Yowsa! Hot babes everywhere.

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Tahoe:
You are so right about this one. Even Lemming is scratching his head. Supposedly he recently chatted with McGuffie and McGuffie was raving about Rich Rod and the new system. And to think about Cal instead of even Texas AM, with a new coach and all is weird. Just weird.

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mcguffie has sent in his LOI Its official he is blue all is well in AA

TP TO AA 4 ZIP

Its true mcguffie is in, now i hope twins is also correct on Pryor
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That'd be funny if RR faxed him back, thanked him and told him he was going to use him as an outside linebacker or something.

mcguffie has seemed like a strange bird since day one, but glad to have him aboard.

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^ Um...wtf?

So...at this point I would have to say the most obvious weaknesses in this class are the two that (likely) got away. QB and DE are the glaring holes, with CB following close behind. Those will be the massive needs for next years class. We have very little depth at those three positions already, PLUS we lose much of the talent there at the end of the upcoming season.

Anyone hearing early thoughts on position changes? That's probably one of the things I'm looking forward to spring practice for, since that's usually when we hear about it.

only a rumor, but it sounds like one of the LB's (Fitz, Spoon or Demens) will be asked to move to DE or that Kevin Koger could be moved to DE if its decided that we don't need 3,849 TE's to run the spread.

On a side note............it's kind of ironic we have one of our best "groups of TE's" and then move to a more spread system.

Koger will play DE I have said this since day one he is nasty mean and will be an absolute moster of the corner GO BLUEEE!!! sorry been drinking and thinking

YoUR MY BOY BLUE

Well, the dust has settled on the recruiting battlefield for this year for the most part. UM still has a scholly or two to give out, and some names do remain out there, but I think it's pretty much over. Here are some notes gleened from other sources mixed in with a few of my own thoughts.

First, obviously RR has some Ohio ties, with WV being a border state of the Nation's Asshole. Was that a factor in pulling Omameh, Shaw, and Roundtree? Probably. Lloyd did have some Ohio recruits locked up, but who knows what would have happened to them all if UM had hired a Tedford, Shciano, or Ferentz? I do think RR was the reason those guys came over (duh), and this class features SEVEN kids ffrom the Buckeye state. Under Carr, UM had enjoyed less and less success there, and many have made light of the seeming closing off of Ohio (for the most part) to Michigan with Carr there. I just think another thing is it's the difference between being 62 and 44. RR will bring much more energy to the process.
Scout touched on UM going after kids who had verballed to other schools, and some questions beign raised by the Michigan media about that, almost contentiously. RR say: You just know who you have to compete against when a kid verbals. Welcome to the New World. Obviously, Carr seems to have had a general policy against that. Fine, it's honorable, and if a kid seems like he's made up his mind, Carr was happy with that. Add to that that with Carr, this class would have topped out at 18, the list completed WAY before the process was over. RR will continue to recruit until March 31. Big difference. Again, one guy was in his 60's, the other guy in his 40's. But recruiting until the end landed UM seven more recruits, most of them four stars, and at least five of them committed elsewhere. Welcome to the New World.
This has to go down as a stunner. Much will be made of the defections, especially Mallett. I have it on good, good info that Mallett was gone no matter who took over (unless it would have been his father). Word is that Mallett was kind of a head case, kind of full of himself, didn;t like going to class, yada yada. But he IS a talent and I hope he cultivates that talent. Best of luck to him. I do see how he could have flourished under RR, who probably would have run the Cap 1 offense with him. Would have been interesting.
But the real stunner is that this class could have (maybe even should have) fallen apart. It's pretty obvious that most of the recruits had a personal relationship with the last staff and enjoyed it. RR came in and did an OUTSTANDING job of forging relationships of his own. Maybe even spent some time reminding the kids of what UM football is and what UM is in terms of a great institution. And again, not only did the class stay pretty intact, it grew by leaps and bounds. Not just talent wise, but in national prominence. Two kids out of Florida is big. The Beaver says "Old UM" had given up on Florida. RR will probably buy a time share down there to set up a recruiting base. Three huge committs out of Texas. Obviously, Old UM got two of them, but nevertheless, look for UM to stake some ground there as well.
On the home front, of course UM (and MSU) lost out on Perry. But hey, guess what? Michigan high school talent attracts national recruiters too. Pannell was a big loss as well in my opinion. I believe it all starts up front. But these kids might just feel that escaping Michigan is best for them, and more power to them. Ricky Barnum actually liked the snow and cold when he visited. Maybe he's crazy, but you can see that for national recruits Michigan looks pretty good, so there will be trade offs. Best of luck to Ingram and Perry, both made good choices (I guess).
It's hard to address how this class fills needs, as we don;t know who will be unable to fit in with both RR and Barwis. My bud in AA tells me that for the most part the players are buying in in a big way so far, though some fat is being trimmed.
The Beaver says UM fans have got to be "great fans" next year, and no be pissed at 6-6, 7-5, or even 5-7. I don;t buy into the gloom and doom there. I'm not predicting a BCS game next year, but I think Threet will show up solid if it's him, and who knows who else might be wearing the Corn 'n Blue in the next few weeks? However, If UM lands no other QB's in this class, then you are set back another year. But if Threet pans out, who knows?
There will be great gains made by the Barwis Program. Again, I think that'll take a year to kick in. The dividends will really start to pay off with RR's recruits down the road, and the younger guys LLoyd left him.
UM football is in solid hands. A transition is always tough, but a transition has to happen sometime. I hope the self righteous cocksuckers in the Detroit media can get over themselves and work with Rodriguez. I know it's got to make alot of people sick and tired reading their "Well, Michigan is one of those hallowed institutions that would dare not do this...or that. And now we've got the "new" type of coach who would leave another job to come here" bullshit. Fuck that being a "Michigan Man" crud. It's led to a decade of just better than mediocre, and much embarrassment suffered at the hands of OSU and in bowl games. One friggin' win over Florida in the Cap 1 bowl doesn't mean that UM just got "unlucky" this year and a "do we really want such a major change seeing how the old system worked so well?"
It's a new era here, and I am going to kick back and enjoy the hell out of it. Seeing West Virginai tear up not just their conference but bowl opponest over the last three years, and seeing how RR made this recruiting season a resounding success, it is gonna be a hell of alot of fun if you axe me.

Good job Zip and thanks.

RR kind of comes across as an SOB...winning is everything. But he's with us, so its ok. UofM can handle a lil 'win first' attitude for a couple decades.

"If we had an early signing date, you wouldn't have another outfit with a guy in a wizard hat selling snake oil get a guy at the last minute, but that's what happened,"

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i41/JRoc20/SO.jpg

Suck it, Tiller

Good job Zip and thanks.

RR kind of comes across as an SOB...winning is everything. But he's with us, so its ok. UofM can handle a lil 'win first' attitude for a couple decades.

Can't see how you come to the conclusion that he's an SOB. That's awfully judgmental. You play to win? You get paid 2 Mill a year to Win? This ain;t "Diddlywinks at the office" where most people bury their head in a cubicle and hope nobody notices them for thirty years.

Just the verbal commit thing where, if I read correctly, lots of coaches let that guy go. RR still goes after him. I may have read that wrong.

...and some of the dealings WVU...and I said 'kind of' damn it.

You may be right, but that didn;t stop Notre Dame from recruiting Mike Martin, or Dantonio from hosting visits by UM recruits, or Rutgers or Miami from doing the same.
And it didn't stop Tressel from offering Omameh a scholly Monday night after he had committed to Michigan earlier in the day. Or Phat Phil from trying to snag Witherspoon.
It's a vicious game out there, and they all play the same way.

You may be right, but that didn;t stop Notre Dame from recruiting Mike Martin, or Dantonio from hosting visits by UM recruits, or Rutgers or Miami from doing the same.
And it didn't stop Tressel from offering Omameh a scholly Monday night after he had committed to Michigan earlier in the day. Or Phat Phil from trying to snag Witherspoon.
It's a vicious game out there, and they all play the same way.

Thats where I was wr...wrrrrr....wrrrrron....err...misinformed.

Maybe a better way to say it is that it is hardball out there and RR plays with the best of them..instead of the sob thing.

But from what I gather, our recruiting game has been stepped up. It couldn't have been easy coming in trying to keep everyone from bolting. He almost did it. What grade... B+??? with Pryor still a possibility.

Glad to see you coming around Tahoe. I'm just making sure Barwis doesn't get hold of you.
I give RR and A. He came in too late to get the QB he needed, I think there were some shady dealing with Daniel$, and he at least turned Pryor's head for a minute. He may have thought some spread QB would just materialize, but UM will be fine in the long run. Maybe he likes Threet also.

Unless RR pulls something huge out of his hat, Pryor isn't coming here. He was set to sign with Ohio State and backed out because his dad wants it to be Penn State. Oregon and Michigan really aren't factors anymore barring something crazy.

Glad to see you coming around Tahoe. I'm just making sure Barwis doesn't get hold of you.
I give RR and A. He came in too late to get the QB he needed, I think there were some shady dealing with Daniel$, and he at least turned Pryor's head for a minute. He may have thought some spread QB would just materialize, but UM will be fine in the long run. Maybe he likes Threet also.

Zip, Barwis doesn't scare me...and a couple of my buddies.

Better check on your buddies. Barwis may have already destroyed them.

^ Smith & Wesson Zek. :)

Is that what Barwis named his fists? I hope you don't think a gun is slowing him down. Barwis is like the Hulk on PCP!

Barwis named his fists Law and Order.

As usual, Brian at MgoBlog gives the Sparties their due. You'll need a few minutes to read this, but DAYUM is it worth every minute:

http://mgoblog.blogspot.com/

Sorry Tahoe, but I have visions of you and your buddies drunk one night firing your gunzies off and killing each other.

That was a great write up.

re:S&W...hasn't happened yet zip. You should come out with us. :)

Yeah, Tahoe. I'll be right over for that party.

Me too. I'll bring the women!


http://www.gadgetspy.co.uk/wp-content/photos/booth_babes.JPG

What do you think about Michigan's wide receivers for the 2008 season?
— Jr. Hemingway in Conway, S.C.
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Frankly, I'm unsure what to expect. Greg Mathews (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=64282) is a big target who obviously proved himself with 39 catches and three touchdowns last year, but he figures to draw better coverage next season without Mario Manningham (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=59769) and Adrian Arrington (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=35988) out there.
Some guys step up and become stars in that situation. Others struggle.
Sophomore Junior Hemingway (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=84725), who had four catches last year, is a probable starter. Toney Clemons (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/cviewplayer.asp?Player=84724) could be, too. Don't be surprised to see a freshman get a lot of action, too. Darryl Stonum (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=49406), who has already enrolled, could be a prime candidate for immediate playing time.
Of course, it will be interesting to see how the receivers will be used in coach Rich Rodriguez (http://collegefootball.rivals.com/viewcoach.asp?Coach=584)'s offense. Last season only one West Virginia (http://westvirginia.rivals.com/) wide receiver had more than 25 catches and the Mountaineers ranked 114th in passing offense.

I think you take into account that he was playing a running back/safety at QB. And Pat White turned into a very serviceable passer. Didn't have the weapons at wideout either.
I'm thinking RR will figure out a way to get the ball to all his playmakers. By the looks of it, he'll have alot more of them than he did at WVU.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/image.php?u=843&dateline=1202272142

I don't know why, but this is how I have always imagined Zip looking, especially after 4-12 hours of late night recruiting posts.

Every time I see the name "Zip Goshboots" I imagine it being said with a British accent. lol

Not his fault though, Zip is worshipped by many.


And Glenn, that pic is of me this morning after getting no sleep. Except I don't have hair on my head.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/image.php?u=843&dateline=1202272142

I don't know why, but this is how I have always imagined Zip looking, especially after 4-12 hours of late night recruiting posts.

Well, that picture was taken after a fresh shower, shave, and a hair cut, as I was preparing to go out to dinner with my wife at a nice restaurant. I don;t ordinarily look that good.

Check this shit out: Some scrud from Madison, Wisconsin calls out RichGod for the same old shit.
Fucking Badgers: Michigan has taken the gloves off. Everyone else in the Big 10 has been praying that Michigan stay with its old stodgy self, the old Michigan Way with Michigan Men. Now, it's a New Day, and a new Michigan Way.
Check this article out, and the complete spanking this author receives from people, and M fans, thoughout the COUNTRY. This fucktard got Barwissed

http://www.madison.com/tct/blogs/insiders/271785

:barwissed:

COME ON WTF!!

at the risk of getting bukdowed, its officially over for us and pryor. correct?

Seems as though former UM receivers coach Erik Campbell has been hired for the same position at Iowa. This is a good move by Iowa, their passing game has been atrocious for a couple years now.

I see scout is playing their rhetorical question game about how solid (or not) Campbell will be with his commitment. Any insight from Tahoe?

Let me dig into this and either Zip or me will get back to you.

Good read on RichGod getting familiar with Michigan Football. Gorsh, I'm thinking this is going to be wonderful.


http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/02/14/sports/FBC-Michigan-Rodriguez.php?page=1

I see scout is playing their rhetorical question game about how solid (or not) Campbell will be with his commitment. Any insight from Tahoe?

They are nothing if not neurotic on Scout. The articles by the publishers are great, but the posters are some of the dumbest fucktards I have ever seen. I'm already banned from posting there. I wish the moderators would do a better job of cleaning up shit threads, which is at least half of the threads there.

At any rate, Campbell appears pretty solid:


After a strong camp performance last summer, Detroit Cass Tech jr. DT William Campbell was offered a scholarship by Michigan and quickly accepted. With a new staff now in Ann Arbor, recruiters from other programs are attempting to loosen the Wolverines’ grip. Is Michigan’s first 2009 commitment now looking to seriously explore other options?


When William Campbell traveled down to San Antonio for the Army All-American Combine last month, the youngster had something to prove. By the time he left Lone Star State, there was no doubt about his standing amongst the best prospects in the class of 2009.

"Campbell showed a quick burst off the ball that many had not seen before and surprisingly showed a few moves,” reported GoBlueWolverine correspondent Eugene Hankerson. “ ‘Big Will’ as friends call him won half, if not three of the four, battles versus Marcus Hall. Expect more schools to contact him despite the early verbal."

Hankerson wasn’t the only one to praise Campbell’s showing. The 6-5 320-pounder was officially recognized as one of the event’s top performers.

“I made the (All-combine) team,” said Campbell. “I talked to the director of the game and he said I might be back next year to play in the game.”

That type of showing on the national stage was bound to turn the heads of college coaches across the country. In recent weeks the Cass Tech star has noticed just that. The inquiries from new suitors are growing by the day. At the same time, he has also noticed the new Michigan staff’s efforts to make sure he knows he is a top priority.

“I talked to Coach Rodriguez and Coach Shafer,” said Campbell. “I’m getting a good vibe from them. Boubacar was telling me that they were going to run a 3-3-5, but I don’t think they are going to run that because the Big Ten is not a passing conference. I was told that it’s going to be up to me whether I play the outside or the inside.”

Much was made of Campbell’s recent visit to Michigan State for the annual grudge match with the Wolverines late last month. He traveled to Ann Arbor for a basketball game later that same week, but his presence in East Lansing made both Maize & Blue and Green & White fans question whether he was suddenly looking at the Spartans also. So is he?

“Yeah, but not like that,” he said. “I’m still committed to Michigan, but I’m going to go on some visits. Miami, USC, Georgia… I’m going to visit Michigan of course. I don’t know who else. I don’t think I’m going during the season. I think I’m going after the season.”

The next question is, when might he be ready to announce his final decision?

“Announce what?” Campbell asked. “I’m going to Michigan. I just want to travel.”



Look for Pete Carroll to move in, and of course once Dantonio reads this he'll invite Campbell over to fuck his wife.

I have but one word for those of you who doubt:

BARWIS

http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080217/SPORTS06/802170582/1054

Not that I assume anyone is shocked, but there is a Pryor story up on TheWolverine and he said that all 4 schools are still in the running, but he was all set to pick the Buckeyes on signing day until his dad fucked things up for him and made him visit Penn State.

BTW, in his basketball playoff game he had 24 pts, 24 rebs, 10 blocks and 7 dimes........maybe he should stick to playing for Thad Matta instead of the vest.

Hye! There may be some truth to Amani Toomer's claim that Lloyd Carr was a meanie! Check out his 1995 Michigan team photo: Where's Amani? Can you find him?

http://mvictors.com/images/2008/Q1/toomer.gif

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Jeezus H Christ. Now I know why I'm always amazed at the svelte, athletic bodies that most Michiganders sport whenever I visit!

Ive always thought that Michiganders are the least healthy looking people I have ever seen in my life.

Another Michigan Media hack "grades" RichGod after a month on the job. I'm amazed that these goofs in Michigan regard UM as "squeaky clean", and that they are still hung up on his departure from West Virginia. You guys in Michigan NEED to get out more. And I don't mean by going Up North, or to Windsor, or to Cedar Point.

http://media.www.michigandaily.com/media/storage/paper851/news/2008/02/18/Football/Sportsmonday.Column.Rodriguezs.First.Report.Card-3216249.shtml

Little bit of audio from RichGod's address to the UM basketball crowd.

http://www.thepalestra.com/player.php?id=10375

That's obviously a fake. I don't see the transfer papers.

Hye! There may be some truth to Amani Toomer's claim that Lloyd Carr was a meanie! Check out his 1995 Michigan team photo: Where's Amani? Can you find him?

http://mvictors.com/images/2008/Q1/toomer.gif

Huge Question for those with Michigan Insider status..............

What is going on with the possible "black eye" that is about to be unleashed on Michigan? There are a shitload of rumblings that something big is going down and the great reporter Jim Carty is going to break something that will be coined as a "black eye" for Michigan.

Huge Question for those with Michigan Insider status..............

What is going on with the possible "black eye" that is about to be unleashed on Michigan? There are a shitload of rumblings that something big is going down and the great reporter Jim Carty is going to break something that will be coined as a "black eye" for Michigan.

Well, that's exciting.

On the bright side, I was starting to miss bukdow and Tre anyways, so it will be good to have them back.

Huge Question for those with Michigan Insider status..............

What is going on with the possible "black eye" that is about to be unleashed on Michigan? There are a shitload of rumblings that something big is going down and the great reporter Jim Carty is going to break something that will be coined as a "black eye" for Michigan.

Scout's rumor mill has it that Carty is working on something about Michigan football players and inflated classroom grades; possibly even that UM football players have been getting by in the classroom without doing anything or going to class. A pal of mine told me that one of the problems with Mallett was that they couldn't get him to bother with going to class either.
The big question is which paper would Carty go to with the sory: would the Ann Arbor paper run with it? Would they risk their meal ticket (UM) with this story? Or would the Big City papers be more likely to go with it?

Again, to me, it fits this mood that sems to have come over the Michigan media since Lloyd retired. The gloves are off, the once Sacred Cow is now fair game. The michigan media seem pissed that UM fans couldn't give two shits about Lloyd and are glad he's gone; Michigan has gone out and played the "modern game" of hiring a coach away from another school (and he comes with perceived "baggage"); and also, too, maybe, that now that Lloyd is gone the veil of secrecy that was over Fort Schembechler has now been lifted and these guys can get in and dig up a little dirt to make themselves a name and gain some notoriety.

Carty is a douche if I ever meet him in a public place I would have to go up to em poor my beer on his head and tell him he is a piece of shit he is hopefully he would hit me so I could kick her ass all the way back to East Lansing or maybe evan Columbus but since it does smell like Fromunda in Columbus I would pry just beat his ass all the way to EL

Scout's rumor mill has it that Carty is working on something about Michigan football players and inflated classroom grades; possibly even that UM football players have been getting by in the classroom without doing anything or going to class. A pal of mine told me that one of the problems with Mallett was that they couldn't get him to bother with going to class either.
The big question is which paper would Carty go to with the sory: would the Ann Arbor paper run with it? Would they risk their meal ticket (UM) with this story? Or would the Big City papers be more likely to go with it?

Again, to me, it fits this mood that sems to have come over the Michigan media since Lloyd retired. The gloves are off, the once Sacred Cow is now fair game. The michigan media seem pissed that UM fans couldn't give two shits about Lloyd and are glad he's gone; Michigan has gone out and played the "modern game" of hiring a coach away from another school (and he comes with perceived "baggage"); and also, too, maybe, that now that Lloyd is gone the veil of secrecy that was over Fort Schembechler has now been lifted and these guys can get in and dig up a little dirt to make themselves a name and gain some notoriety.

Your logic seems a bit flawed since Lloyd would have been in charge when the grade inflation took place. Hence, they would be ruining rather than enhancing his legacy. If they are in fact cheating than u-m football should get what is coming to it. However, I would hope that all other programs would be scrutinized to the same degree. On the other hand, if this is more of the "athletes take easier classes" bullshit, than I don't think anyone should really care. I passed through some classes with close to zero work or attendance. I took others that required about 30 hrs/wk for 3 credits.

LMAO....Athletes in college not going to class!??? Call CNN!

Seriously, it would only be a huge story if they found a top 25 program that did have all it's athletes going to class. What a joke.

Prediction: If/when this article is published, bukdow makes a return.

Over/under # of posts during his return: 8.5

Carty is a douche if I ever meet him in a public place I would have to go up to em poor my beer on his head and tell him he is a piece of shit he is hopefully he would hit me so I could kick her ass all the way back to East Lansing or maybe evan Columbus but since it does smell like Fromunda in Columbus I would pry just beat his ass all the way to EL

Looks like someone else doesn't, or hasn't, spent much time in class.

What the fuck is "fromunda"?

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Viscous liquid or paste which can be scraped from under the forskin or applebag and emits an ordor similar to that of the asshole of a rotting carcas. The substance is good for wiping on fellow varsity football players and lubricating door hinges.

Last years Two-a-days were so hot it allowed us to produce and package over 62 gallons of fromunda cheese.

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The residue and/or mud-like substance found in, under, and around the male genetalia as a result from neglect and uncleanliness.

Prediction: If/when this article is published, bukdow makes a return.

Over/under # of posts during his return: 8.5


Well, that's exciting.

On the bright side, I was starting to miss bukdow and Tre anyways, so it will be good to have them back.

Great minds.

Does anyone have a scouting report for threet from when he was recruited and/or know why he decided to transfer from GT?

Does anyone have a scouting report for threet from when he was recruited and/or know why he decided to transfer from GT?

http://georgiatech.scout.com/a.z?s=140&p=8&c=1&nid=2518084


QB Steven Threet Comes Home to Michigan

By The GoBlueWolverine Staff
GoBlueWolverine.com
Posted Jul 12, 2007


Freshman quarterback Steven Threet just told GoBlueWolverine -- he has made his way all the way back to his home state of Michigan today, transferring from Georgia Tech to U-M.

Quarterback Steven Threet made his way back to Michigan today, transferring from Georgia Tech to U-M.

The big 6-5, 230 pounder was the #3 prospect in the state of Michigan, and a 4-star prospect, for this incoming freshman class (the '07 class, click HERE).

Threet was an early enrollee at Georgia Tech this winter, where the strong-armed signalcaller went through spring ball and quickly moved into the #2 QB spot (click HERE).

However, Threet decided he wanted to return home.

Threet told GoBlueWolverine Wednesday night, "I got my release from Georgia Tech and am visiting Michigan tomorrow (today, Thursday). I'll let you know what happens."

And - now - he just told GoBlueWolverine -- "I did it! I'm transferring to Michigan!" Threet wowed observers at the spring high school combines and the Michigan Camp a year ago with his arm as well as his accuracy, and he is "high 4-star" quality ... in this year's class he'd be a Top Ten prospect, and Mark Dantonio would try to blow him.

sounds good. the way people talk about UM's hole at QB you'd have thought this guy was bukdow. sounds like we should be ok at qb this year.

can you imagine the pain barwis would inflict on bukdow's body? im not sure its describable with the english language.

Let's leave bukdow out of this. Just mentioning him tarnishes this thread.

We should only bash bukdow in the MSU threads.

Thanks Zip. So he is "athletic and mobile" but has a "-" for speed. I am not sure what that means, but hopefully he can run about as well as chris leak did at florida. I didn't realize that threet transferred BEFORE his first season of eligibility. He must have been pretty homesick. Anyways, if you come across a more in-depth report on his skills, keep us posted.

Rivals also had him as a four star, when he signed with Georgia Tech they called him a "great steal" out of Michigan.
The thing with him now is that he will have had THREE spring and two full seasons of practice. I believe Georgia Tech has run some sort of spread for the last few years, so that may be the system he practiced with while there. He was a December HS grad, so he enrolled at Georgia tech early to begin practicing right away. I don;t know the rule with transfers, so I don;t know if he just sat all last season or got in some practice reps.
I don't see any problems going with him, and a few guys I know around AA think he'll be pretty good actually. It's better than starting a true freshman, that's for sure.

The Scout info says he was class of 2007 (same as Mallett) so he would only have 1 full season and 2 spring seasons. I was thinking that he was class of 2006, but it looks like he decided to transfer in the summer after he enrolled early for 1 semester.

Michigan Used threet in capitol one bowl preperations to simulate tebow. Also from what I have heard the kid is gonna be the deal and Mallet knew so thats why he jetted elswhere

http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=2518084

http://www.michigan.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=44954

There are his profiles on Scout and Rivals. Neither lists a 40 time.

Notice he was recruited by Zook who clearly runs a spread.

Sorry if this is an obvious question but is he eligible right away for 2008?

Yeah.

Vinny:
He is eligible, he sat out last season. He is golden.

Michigan Used threet in capitol one bowl preperations to simulate tebow. Also from what I have heard the kid is gonna be the deal and Mallet knew so thats why he jetted elswhere

twins: You continue to emit BULLSHIT. Mallet was a pain in the arse, and was gone no matter what.
You lack "cred" with all your Pryor Bullshit. Stop before you wander into Dr Tre territory.

Twins, how do you like your crow?

:BARWIS: Has he signed yet? oh yeah not yet

Here's a QB option for next year. I like this kid.

http://recruiting.scout.com/2/730512.html

http://ucla.scout.com/a.z?s=12&p=8&c=1&nid=2549737



Don't be fooled by the One Star in this profile, he has offers from alot of schools, as you can see if you scroll to the bottom.

Here's a kid who is now apparently of great interest to UM

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2970315

Here's a QB option for next year. I like this kid.

http://recruiting.scout.com/2/730512.html

http://ucla.scout.com/a.z?s=12&p=8&c=1&nid=2549737


Don't be fooled by the One Star in this profile, he has offers from alot of schools, as you can see if you scroll to the bottom.

Just wanted you to know Zip that "Michigan Fans" know who this kid is and have known for at least a couple of years. His brother obviously went to Michigan and then decided to leave which was okay, but the dad apparently loves Michigan and then grew even more in love when he found out RR would be taking over. Tate is definitely in the top 5 of wanted QB's for the '09 class.

For those who don't know.............Tate Forcier = Jake Locker, but smaller.

Arrington question: I haven't seen him in the top 4 rounds for any type of Mock Draft. Is he even going to be drafted? And what am I missing about him that scouts are so turned off by?

On Arrington, word spreaded around Scout that he was rated in the TWENTIES on receiver charts, with Mario being #1. Then a rumor popped up that he tore a hammy.
Suffice it to say that it seems like AA has joined the KGB and disappeared. Probably a mistake for him to come out in terms of money, but I still think he'll be playing in the NFL next year.

Filly: I'm looking at tate Forcier and I see a bigger Chase Daniel. There are rumors about his character on Scout, though. But he do have alot of offers from big name schools.

Right now UM seems to be lagging in offeering juniors. They did just offer an OL from Pennsylvania named Eric Shrive:
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=9&c=2&cid=728447&nid=3032443&fhn=1

he ugly, but he big and strong

Just wanted you to know Zip that "Michigan Fans" know who this kid is and have known for at least a couple of years. His brother obviously went to Michigan and then decided to leave which was okay, but the dad apparently loves Michigan and then grew even more in love when he found out RR would be taking over. Tate is definitely in the top 5 of wanted QB's for the '09 class.

For those who don't know.............Tate Forcier = Jake Locker, but smaller.

Are you...mocking me? I don't appreciate your tone. A little Barwis upside your grille might be in order, no?

And if everyone "knew" about Forcier, hows come he weren't on this thread then?

Here's a look at the QB's UM has offered for the class of 'ought nine:

Tajh Boyd:
http://maryland.scout.com/a.z?s=174&p=8&c=1&nid=3449374

Tom Savage:
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3002059

That's it! And no one will make a move until this fucking Pryor Saga concludes, which is pissing Tahoe and I off. RR needs to tell Pryor "Decide now, Terrelle, because we are sick and tired of your waiting and manipulating us all. What is it, do you want a Corvette? What the fuck is your problem?"

It's pissing me off too!

I just broke my neighbor's nose!

Well, so I'm at work, my job, part time gig at the UPS Store in Omaha. And this dude walks in and needs me to fax some documents for him. I'm all, "OK, that's a dollar a page" He's all, "OK, does that include the cover page?" I'm like, "Yeah".
So the cover page says Pittsburgh Pirates, Pittsburgh, C/O Human Relations. And it's an MLB Drug Policy Agreement thingy ma-bobber.
I'm all, "Hey, you work for the Pittsburgh Pirates?"
"Yes. Yes I do"
"What do you do for them? Batboy?" (polite giggle, he looks like he's 35)
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA No fuckhead. I'm the strength and conditioning coach"

Please sit down as the next part of this conversation is not for the faint of heart:

"How'd you get your start?"
"I went to West Virginia and after graduation I began to work in the Athletic Department there"
"What the fuck did you just say?"
"I went to
"I HEARD YA, YA bald prick!" (He was bald) "I'm from Michigan. I'm a huge Michigan fan. I was voted the #1 Michigan Fan in my family by my wife and children"
"Oh yeah? That's pretty cool"

Again, I hope you, dear readers, are sitting down, for now we come to the "meat" of this enrapturing tale.

"Did...DO...you...know...BARWIS?"
"Oh yeah. Everyone out there knows Barwis. He went over to Michigan with Rich Rodriguez, who I also know. Michigan is my new favorite team."
"Yeah, we're pretty excited about that. We were maybe as excited to get BARWIS as we were Rodriguez"
"I can see why. I worked with one of his interns this summer here in Omaha. Those guys are going to tear the Big Ten up. You should see what they did with West Virginia talent, and Michigan gets way better athletes than that"
"Tell me more. Tell me more or I'll kill you and your family"
"Barwis is the most intense person I've ever met. I was talking to him on the phone one time, and someone pissed him off and he...just...snapped, and went OFF. Nobody fucks with him"
"Well, Michigan used that old HIT system..."
"Yeah, reps to failure, and Nautilus machines. You guys and Penn State are the only"
"I KNOW YA BALD HEADED PRICK!. But Michigan got rid of that shit and just spent $600,000.00 on a new weight room"
His eyes got big. Real big. He shook his head and said, "Wow. He and Rodriguez are animals. They're gonna make Michigan real good real soon. You'll see a difference, if you know what to look for, almost immediately. Are we done?"
"Yes. Thank you for choosing the UPS Store! Good luck with the Pirates!"

I am now separated by less than six degrees from BARWIS, and so are all of you.

Boner!

Interesting development here...

http://www.wvmetronews.com/index.cfm?func=displayfullstory&storyid=23594

Here is a pretty cool article about one of my other homeboys Sam Mcguffie

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/andy_staples/02/22/mcguffie.youtube/

Why would TP not wanna play with him

Seriously remember :BARWIS: is my homeboy

What's Barwis' middle name then? Hmm?

Michigan has extended an offer to Tate Forcier.
Let the Pryor issue go now. It's done.

I'm about to cancel my scout subscription...it was worth it for the coaching search & signing day, but it's a rip off for times like right now, when there is no new news to be read...

I'm about to cancel my scout subscription...it was worth it for the coaching search & signing day, but it's a rip off for times like right now, when there is no new news to be read...

Couldn't agree more. That, and there are way too many fucking idiots there and bullshit threads. Not worth it in the long run. Most of the premium shit ends up on free boards within minutes, and the free boards actually have far fewer douchebags.
You pay 9.99 per month, and there are like four threads on the premium board about jerseys. JERSEYS???

Couldn't agree more. That, and there are way too many fucking idiots there and bullshit threads. Not worth it in the long run. Most of the premium shit ends up on free boards within minutes, and the free boards actually have far fewer douchebags.
You pay 9.99 per month, and there are like four threads on the premium board about jerseys. JERSEYS???


yup, spot on zippy...

once december comes around and recruiting picks up, I'll consider renewing for a couple months...

What is Champions Day? I see that's when UM will host their Junior day. What is the date and the significance of Champions Day?

A little help please.

Is it true that Hart ran a 4.67 and 4.69 at the combine? It will be interesting to see where he ends up, maybe he should try fullback, ha.

we'll see, every knew he was slow, just kind of a sticker shock when your drafting a guy who is also slow and has injury issues.

i still think hes a 2nd rounder, but he's never going to be a feature back in this league.

i still think top speed is fairly overrated for a rb. accelaration, quickness, and vision is what you need.

Is it true that Hart ran a 4.67 and 4.69 at the combine? It will be interesting to see where he ends up, maybe he should try fullback, ha.

Another Michigan obsessed Sparty. What a surprise! LOL Just kidding. NOT! Yes I am.
Nobody expects Hart to be a high draft pick or a feature back, or personally bitch slap teams like he did to Spartina for four years. At best, he has utility man written all over his pro career. He might surprise alot of people, too, like he did for the last four years.

Ha i just thought Hart was better than that speed wise. He could sure break away from the Spartan secondary and beat them. I projected him at like a 4.5.

The bigger story is Super Mario measuring in at under six feet and a frail 180. He also ran a 4.51 and a 4.59 at the combine like the Slow Ten player that he is. I'm sure he'll fix that 40 time on his pro day.

That's 4.61, not 4.51.

And those were the unofficial numbers, which are usually .05-.1 fast, explaining Devin Thomas' 4.32 and 4.34 being officially 4.40.

They said 4.51 on Sportscenter.

Both Mario and Arrington dropping in stock, it appears. Hmmmm. A mistake to come out?
And then Arrington has to open up his yap about leaving early because of the coaching change and the Mallet situation. Arrington caused plenty of trouble while at UM, and Mallet wasn't well liked by his team mates. Mario had a rep for liking the ganja. Maybe it's true, that Country Club Carr is a thing of the past. Addition by subtraction, as they say!

They said 4.51 on Sportscenter.

They said 4.61 or 4.62 on NFL Network.

Whether it's 4.51 or 4.62 (which is what I heard), it doesn't bode well for a guy who is under six feet tall and weighs about 180, and has alligator arms.
He may have looked pretty fast against Sparty and Wisconsin, but I have a hunch the NFL has bigger, better, faster, stronger dbacks than that.

Whether it's 4.51 or 4.62 (which is what I heard), it doesn't bode well for a guy who is under six feet tall and weighs about 180, and has alligator arms.
He may have looked pretty fast against Sparty and Wisconsin, but I have a hunch the NFL has bigger, better, faster, stronger dbacks than that.

Yeah, I believe it was a 4.59 and a 4.62.

But I'm shocked him and Arrington have sucked it up so much. They were sick this year, at least vs. MSU and UF, the two games I watched closest.

Well, maybe they didn't take this thing seriously, and sat around getting hihg, eating hot dogs, and wrestling chicks for car keys. Who knows? Obviously, with some of the comments we've heard out of Adrian, and with the way Manningham wouldn't call or return RR's calls, Mario thought he was the MAN after beating up on second rate competition for three years while getting his ass kicked by Ohio State and in most of his bowl games and then FINALLY having a good game against stout competition and helping beat Florida. And Arrington just got a case of the "Big Haids". Being pissed off at Michigan for LLoyd finally retiring and then UM hiring RR is a bit of a head scratcher for me.
As for Arrington, he never has been the fastest guy, but has great concentration on the ball and makes tough catches; great hands.
I think AA makes it, and Mario breaks a pussy bone early on and ends up in the Arena league.

What is Champions Day? I see that's when UM will host their Junior day. What is the date and the significance of Champions Day?

A little help please.

I'm going to bump this until someone attempts to answer the question. Especially now that UM has some instate catching up to do, I'm more curious than ever about when this Junior Day is going to happen.

I don't think there is a date set yet.

I wouldn't worry about "catching up". THIS is the "bump" year for Dantonio. He's settled in, had a year to evaluate his team, take a look at needs, and build relationships. Also, under John L, I don't think MSU had a good rep with in state players, coaches and schools. Word is that if John L knew UM was after a Michigan kid, he'd just beg off.

I don't know where this is going yet, but I think that UM now has some work to do. I don't know that Lloyd was exactly a loved guy by MHSAA, and probly tommy z can answer that one. It seems to me that UM isn't that big a playah, and hasn't been for quite some time for Michigan kids unless they were studz. Trouble is, for the last couple years Michigan has been on the uprise in talent. When studz come along, what do they look at: UM with its four or five Michigan players, or MSU with its 20?

MSU seems to be capitalizing early, but if you look at it more closely, one of the kids is Chris Norman a linebacker. UM just recruited four linebackers this year and has more on the roster; a receiver (Michigan just recruited 87 receivers/slots this year), a running back (see the receivers), and the Maxwell kid at QB. Michigan, by the way, has a committ from Campbell, the #1 playah in the state.

This year may not be a recruiting bonanza: Who does he target? What do they do to establish relationships? Where do they establish relationships? I think they are in good shape. They have the "grace year" where nothing is expected, so a 7-5 or 8-4 will be just fine, and they have the year to get themselves out there and make some headway.

I'd stay away from all the recruiting bullshit and the water cooler talk for the next year and just let it play out. The typical UM fan (especially on Scout) is presently checking around the house to find his gun and some fresh bullets. Don't go there.

EDIT:
Don't forget that MSU IS probably going to get better under Dantonio and be more competititve for in state studz.

Just had to share this I saw Daryl Stonum over the weekend and he is serioulsy looking like a beast he has probobly put on 15 lbs muscle since he showed up on campus. As long as he doesnt lose his speed he should be a stud for the blue this year. He has amazing hands to go with unreal speed and quickness. Look for him to be a hot topic during spring practice.

It's all well and good as long as Threet can get him the ball.

That would be thuper Threet!

I bet he drives a Thirocco.

(must read that post with a lisp)

For Jethro.......

Michigan's 1st Junior Day is next Thursday and will include the "Team Olympics" and the "Night of Champions." I have no clue what those are, but I'm guessing the Team Olympics will be triple threat cage match that pits Barwis against a rapid-blood thirsty wolf and a 900 pound Korean Grizzly Bear..........winner take all of course!!!

What did the wolf and bear do to deserve this cruel punishement?

DION SIMS UPDATE

Orchard Lake St. Mary’s two-sport standout Dion Sims now has his Michigan offer in hand. Have the Wolverines now improved their standing? GoBlueWolverine gets the latest on where Michigan now stands, when Sims will be on campus, the pressing question he has for Rich Rodriguez, and more.


The wait finally came to an end earlier this week for Orchard Lake St. Mary’s dual sport star Dion Sims. After weeks of looking for an offer from the University of Michigan, it at long last came. When he finally put his hands on it, his visible response was more than many around him expected.

“He knew it was coming because we had talked to him right when he got out of school around 3:00pm that day,” Dion’s father, Don Sims recalled. “I called him and told him that I had the letter in hand and that I would be bringing it to him after his game. After the game, which they’d won, he was in a good mood. Everybody was greeting him and I finally went up to him and I said, ‘good game.’ Then when we were walking out I said ‘I’ve got something else for you.’ He said, ‘oh yeah!’ When I handed it to him he just had a grin from ear to ear, man. He was actually grinning from ear to ear. He said, ‘yeah, 'yeah I know what this is.' He took the letter, and he and his mom and his girlfriend walked away together and he was pretty excited about it. I think it was just a relief that he had gotten the offer from Michigan because it’s something that we had been hearing was coming for a while. Just to know that, ‘hey, they really are interested in me’ was a relief to him.”

“His mom was smiling and laughing about it too,” Mr. Sims continued. “I said to her, ‘hey, this envelope is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars because that’s what a scholarship amounts to nowadays. So what I’m handing you is worth a lot.’ She laughed and said, ‘that’s right.’ She’s starting to pick up on that too... that every kid can’t get a scholarship, let alone to major universities like Dion is getting. So she was very excited about the letter.”

Dion, who was a frequent visitor at Michigan games last year, had seen his feelings about the Wolverines level off considerably after the dismissal of former basketball headman Tommy Amaker (with whom he had formed a strong bond). Both the football and basketball programs maintained their interest in the subsequent months, as demonstrated by their visits to his school. However, it wasn’t until recently that he began to feel like major steps toward rebuilding the bridge to Ann Arbor were taking place. En lieu of John Beilein making it by one of his games last week and Rich Rodriguez making clear his desire to see Sims in a winged helmet, things are once again looking up for the Maize & Blue.

“When you talk about Michigan…all of his friends are big Michigan fans and they all covet an offer from Michigan,” Mr. Sims said. “To a man a lot of those kids say, ‘well hey, if I’ve got an opportunity to go there and they want me, I’m going.’ Dion has got a powerhouse school right in his backyard. I’m not saying that Michigan is his final call… that he is going to attend there. We don’t know that. It’s just a great honor for him to be considered that caliber of player to be recruited by a school like a Michigan. And he understands that. He grew up seeing Michigan, seeing the players that came out of the city, and seeing the players from all over the country that have gone there and done big things. He understands the power that the school has.”

While it’s clear that Rodriguez’s offer letter afforded him more traction in his pursuit of Sims, there is still a big battle ahead. There are other suitors receiving strong consideration as well. That makes the one-on-one time Michigan’s new headman spends with Sims in the coming days…(first at Sunday’s basketball game against Purdue and then at Thursday’s junior day)… all the more important.

“(The personal interaction) is something that will come,” Sims said referring to the upcoming meetings between his son and Rodriguez. “Dion just hasn’t had the opportunity to talk to Coach Rodriguez. He saw him at one of the practices. Rodriguez came up to watch Dion practice basketball. Dion knew he was there, he knew when he left…he knows he was the West Virginia guy. Kids in this era know about that spread… they know about Pat White…and there’s a kid named Noel Devine that is very popular among their crew. So they know what Rodriguez has put out. Dion will have the opportunity to sit with him and see what he has to say about him having the opportunity to do the dual-sport thing at Michigan. That’s really something that he is coveting right now. He is doing so well at basketball… he had 30 points (Wednesday night) in the regional championship (the Eaglets defeated Brighton 87-56). They will play in the quarters on Tuesday. At the stage that Dion is at, he still has a whole year and some change to really decide what he wants but he is intrigued by the opportunity

Does RR even use the TE as key piece in his offense?

What kind of production has the TE position produced at WV the past couple of years? Anyone know?

Does RR even use the TE as key piece in his offense?

What kind of production has the TE position produced at WV the past couple of years? Anyone know?

There are several answers to that question.

#1 - Not a single TE caught a pass for West Virginia last season. Furthermore, WVU carried 21 WR and 11 RB, but only 5 TE.

#2 - This is a huge difference between Pat White and Steven Threet, just as there will be a substantial difference between the offenses they will run.

#3 - I am hearing more and more that Sims would potentially play DE at UM. That is a HUGE need at UM and he would be able to get PT right away. His pro prospects might even be better there. Also keep in mind that if he's training with Barwis, he might just be a huge WR and not a TE.

If he stays a TE there are certainly times and places a spread offense can be adapted to use a TE. Kevin Koger and Brandon Moore are apparently convinced of that. Moore was so convinced that he even helped steal a couple teammates from other Big Ten schools. I'm guessing if Moore had told Roundtree and Shaw that RR was crap, he would have headed to one of their committed schools, not the other way around.
But actually the Koger and Moore thing means there might be a depth chart issue. That further tells me that Sims may be recruited as either a very big WR or a DE.

Just in case you didnt notice it looks like RR has pulled out the wizard hat and lil snake oil to get TP to come back to Michigan!!! Like I said before TP IS GONNA BE BLUE

:BARWIS: Is my homeboy

Apparently you don't believe in stories with links, etc.

lol

Twins, it's not going to work. We KNOW you've been sent by the Tress. Getting us happy and setting us up for disappoinment WILL NOT WORK

Just in case you didnt notice it looks like RR has pulled out the wizard hat and lil snake oil to get TP to come back to Michigan!!! Like I said before TP IS GONNA BE BLUE

:BARWIS: Is my homeboy

Not to burst the TP Bubble, but he also said he would visit tO$U again and would take an official 2-day visit to Penn State and he wanted his mom to go with him to check things out. BTW, his dad was or is in the hospital with heart trouble apparently so I wonder if that hurts PSU's chances or helps him to want to stay home with Daddy.

The parental angle is being overplayed here. TP was not raised by his birth parents, IIRC. He lives in Jeanette with a godfather or Uncle or something like that.
One thing worth mentioning, though, is that Terrelle's Moms wants him to go to UM and has ever since he was just a wee 6'3 4th grader.

My moles and CWPFs are telling me that Pryor is going to make his announcement on 4/1/08.

April Fool's Day, perfect.

Also, I don't have moles or CWPFs that know anything about this situation.

I'm guessing August 29th.

The only way this guy is still relevant though is because Twins pops up out of nowhere and mentions him.

I believe April 1st is actually the last day he can sign a letter of intent. Otherwise he doesn't get a scholarship from anyone and ends up playing somewhere as basically a walk-on.

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Could I get a PM re: UM's Junior Day/Night of Champions aftermath?

With all the excietment surrounding UM football, Rodriguez, and BARWIS, there are a couple things to think about. Right now I am combing through my more than 11,000 pages of notes, and we'll get caught up in the next week due to it being spring break, and I'm not heading to South Padre Island to get sloshed and bang co eds this year.

First caveat: We really don't know what kind of recruiter RR is just yet. He recruited middling, Sparty like classes to WVU, the highest rated being somewhere around 25. What they DID do was coach them up. Way up.

But it was in the Big East, and, as my buddy HipDigIt says, things really got good for WVU after Miami, BC, and VaTech left the conference for the ACC. So we have to see what happens here. My belief is that competition is relative. If you are the best in one conference, if you've built your team into a power, that should translate to another school, especially one with built in advantages like Michigan. That's what coaches do, isn't it? Work their way up the food chain by proving themselves at earlier stops.

We also have to take a look at Carr's recruiting. Some always walk around saying things like "Hey, Michigan alwasy has Top 5 talent, and they just underachieve all the time. Well, if you look at UM's recruiting, it usually is "Top 10-20" when the analyses finally are made. I'm no mathemetician, but top 20 recruiting classes don't equal top 5 talent. Big difference, and it's time that myth went away.

Now, you have to axe yourself if you consider RR an upgrade over Carr. If you take an objective look at Michigan talent, you should come to the conclusion that Carr never really put a product out there that talent wise, would annually challenge for national championships. And it looks like he couldn't quite "coach 'em up" in the way Rodriguez appears to have done at WVU. Even consistent top 10-20 recruiting talent should add up to a better product than it appeared to me that Carr was putting out there. To me, RR appears to be able to max out his talent over a longer period, while Carr did do some underachieving.

Another thing: in two of the last three years, UM was SLAMMED by the injury bug, and there didn't appear to be depth to back it up. 7-5 in 2005, and a battered team that limped into the Wisconsin and OSU games this year and got pummelled. Whose fault is that? By all accounts, UM's S&C program lagged behind most everyone else in the country (except PENN STATE), and the results, over the last seven years bear that out. Injuries, and late game collapses, and quite often being manhandle by equal or better competition.

My biggest complaint against Lloyd is that you never really expected anything special out of him. You knew, with the exception of this year's bowl game, pretty much who he'd beat and who would hand him his ass. And he shot his wad with that NC in '97. His time came and went about 4 years ago. Oddly enough, the last shining moment for UM was also a loss: The Texas Rose Bowl.

Pivotal game this year is Notre Dame early on. Go into South Bend and hand the Irish a loss and you might be on your way. Notre Dame will suck this year. They lost alot of, er, talent from last year's team also, and they recruited great THIS year, so they will not be much improved. UM needs that game. Then of course, big games early that Tahoe has yet to give serious thought to at this point.

Stay tuned, we'll be burning the midnight oil at WTF Detroit UM Football Central, and as we pour over more of our 16,000 pages of notes, we will add more insight into the RR era.

Interview with our new great coach, Rich Rodriguez

http://www.zshare.net/audio/89328488bc8b54/

Story about RR, the big house and of course BARWIS:

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?id=3293269

Here's a kid UM offered at Junior Day. He has apparently been REAL interested in Michigan, and reportedly has been ticked off at not hearing from RR and staff. So he walks into Junior Day and leaves with an offer. From the sound of it, he is a serious UM lean. This might be a good year for UM to load up on OL. OSU is stacked there for years to come, and UM is a bit thin.

http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&nid=3426347

Michigan fans, today was the first day of Spring Practice. Jethro was on the sidelines and can report on what went down.

One thing to take note of: Under Carr, there was a "heirarchical" nature. Once you were a starter, you had to REALLY fuck up to lose that position. The thing with a new guy is that not only are all positions (theoretically) up fro grabs, but with RR if you don't perform at all times, you get BARWISSED, and you get to hold clipboards.

This should be a REAL fun spring, as guys are coming in in better shape than they've probably ever been, and they ALL have something to prove. The competition amongst the team itself is going to make these guys pretty good.

RichRod's hearing with WVA over the contract dispute is set for April 3.

Rodriguez says first spring practice at Michigan was typical
Associated Press

Updated: March 15, 2008, 7:24 PM ET

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- The coach walked onto the field wearing the familiar navy cap with a maize 'M' on the front, but that was about all that looked the same Saturday at Michigan Wolverines's first spring practice.

Rich Rodriguez began introducing his spread-option system. The coach hired away from West Virginia has fans hoping he can breathe life into an offense many found stale and predictable. He sees plenty of work ahead.

"It was ugly at times and I was encouraged at times," Rodriguez said after the session. "Typical first practice."

The Wolverines ended last season 9-4 and ranked No. 18 after defeating Florida in the Capital One Bowl. Lloyd Carr said before the game he was retiring after 13 seasons.

Rodriguez accepted the job shortly after West Virginia lost its regular-season finale to Pittsburgh and cost itself a shot at a BCS championship game berth.

The coach didn't just have football on his mind Saturday. Attorneys for the coach and his former employer learned Friday they're expected in a West Virginia court April 3 concerning a lawsuit WVU filed in December.

The university wants Rodriguez to pay a $4 million buyout of his old contract. Rodriguez contends he signed that agreement under false pretenses.

Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press

Offseason program has Wolverines looking, feeling different
By Ivan Maisel
ESPN.com

Updated: March 15, 2008, 7:28 PM ET

ANN ARBOR, Mich. -- It is the day before the opening of Michigan's first spring practice under coach Rich Rodriguez, and a coach who knows Rodriguez's career better than anyone predicts that the Wolverines will not merely struggle to learn the new schemes. This coach uses terms like "ugly" and "miserable" to describe the adjustment.

"I'm anticipating the worst," this coach said.

This expert's name? Rich Rodriguez.

The Big House has building cranes peeking over its walls. A new indoor facility is being constructed. Rodriguez stood on the balcony of his office in Schembechler Hall on Tuesday afternoon, looking down at a construction site where his new FieldTurf practice area will be.

"Y'all are doing a great job!" he yells to a couple of guys in hard hats.

Insert metaphor here.

A whole lot of renovation has begun on the south end of campus. Buildings and bodies alike are being broken down and rebuilt, brick by brick, muscle by muscle. While construction crews labor on Michigan's $300 million football plant , the new Wolverines coaching staff is giving the football players an extreme makeover in mind and body.

"It's like we're all freshmen again, coming into something new," senior corner Morgan Trent said. The mental redo begins in earnest Saturday. To this point, Rodriguez and his staff, with six of the nine assistants coming with him from West Virginia, have offered only the basics in the meeting room. One of the tenets of Rodriguez's no-huddle spread offense is to play fast. That begins on Page 1 of the playbook.

"Normally when you're new, you take your time, try to teach it slowly," Rodriguez said. "That goes against some of the principles we believe in. So we're throwing it all in quickly. That probably adds to the confusion a little bit. Put on top of it that you've got inexperienced skill-position players offensively, which we do."

Michigan is the fifth school at which Rodriguez has installed his offense. Every installation began with problems.

"I have learned not to panic," Rodriguez said.

In the spring of 1997 at Tulane, Rodriguez's first shot at Division I-A -- as the Green Wave's offensive coordinator -- after seven seasons as head coach of NAIA Glenville (W.Va.) State, he thought his career had ended.

"If they had ever set a stat for spring practice sacks allowed, we would have broken it, and it would never be broken again," Rodriguez said. "I mean, I can remember our first spring game at Tulane. We had a little intrasquad scrimmage. It was so bad offensively that the defensive coaches let one of the female student trainers call defenses. And I still didn't get a first down."

The postscript is that in the second season, 1998, Tulane and that once-bruised quarterback, Shaun King, went 12-0.

The players can't wait for Saturday.

"We've learned the coaches a little bit, gotten to know them as they've gotten to know us," Trent said. "They don't know how we act when it gets tight. We don't know how they act. So we're going to learn each other. We're going to have a good time."

The players know they will be overwhelmed by the information. But they already have been overwhelmed once by the new staff and lived to tell about it, which brings us to the physical renovation that began in January. That is another reason Rodriguez waited to dump his playbook into his players' laps. He knew the discomfort they would feel at the hands of their new director of strength and conditioning, Mike Barwis, and the staff he brought with him from West Virginia.

"Total exhaustion," Trent said, recalling the first two weeks under Barwis. "There was a Tuesday. We do our speed and agility [work]. We weren't too focused and we had to run afterward. Not too much, three or four gassers across the field. We were just hurting. Mike was screaming, 'This is a warm-up! Y'all are hurting on this? Just wait.' We all just got this shock, like 'Uh-oh. If this is a warm-up, I can't imagine.'"

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Mike Barwis brought a whole new style to Michigan's strength and conditioning program.

"After every workout, we would just come into the locker room and sit like that," junior wide receiver Greg Mathews said, putting his head in his hands. "I can't believe we just ran 12 100s and 10 40s and two 120s and we're still alive. Man, I can't believe we just did that."

They did that running after they lifted and went through a progression of plyometric exercises. If you talk to Barwis, you will hear the word "progression" a lot. And you will hear a lot of words you've never heard before. Barwis talks fast, he works fast, and his players work fast so that they can play fast.

"The question is can they go long, be strong, be mobile, be explosive, change direction well, have great body control and be an effective athlete for four quarters? Or longer if necessary?"

Barwis rat-a-tatted. "With the way we play the game of football, you better be able to move to play football for Coach Rodriguez."

Ask Barwis what time it is, and he tells you how to body-build a watch. When asked to explain his conditioning philosophy "in a nutshell," Barwis spoke for nearly nine minutes. (Full disclosure: I did squeeze in one request for a clarification in that span.) There is an emphasis on flexibility and core strength, and on speed and explosion. Still, that nutshell holds one large nut.

"He'll use more medical terms for a crazy strength coach than anybody in the country," Rodriguez said. "He has enough education to get accepted into med school but instead became an ultimate fighter. That tells you how he's wired."

Staff and players at Michigan are careful not to step on the reputation of Mike Gittleson, who had been the Wolverines' strength coach dating to the Bo Schembechler days. And it is true that strength coaches, like chefs, all have their own methods of making omelettes.

Barwis is equal parts old- and new-school. The old part: He believes in "Olympic movements," so his players perform a lot of power cleans and squats. Another old part: Don't tell the energy drink industry, but when his players finish their workout, he has them drink -- I kid you not -- chocolate milk.

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Rich Rodriguez made sure the Michigan weight room received an extreme makeover.

Barwis is happy to explain how milk is the best delivery system for casein and whey, the proteins your body needs after a workout. The chocolate syrup replenishes glucose. But he also can explain it in a way that any former kindergartener can understand.

"It's pretty simple," Barwis said. "What did you drink when you were a baby? When did you grow faster than that? Never did. Evidently, Mom and Dad knew right in the first place."

The new part: When Barwis arrived, he took one lap around the weight room, looked at Rodriguez and said, "I think we're going to need a whole new room."

"Over a million. Over a million dollars," Rodriguez said. "To [athletic director] Bill Martin's credit, he teases me about it. I had gone to the weight room after I got hired, and I said, 'There's probably going to be a few changes, a few new pieces of equipment.' He was probably expecting a hundred, hundred fifty thousand dollars worth. A million dollars later," Rodriguez said, laughing, "thankfully, we have the Big House."

The players who work out under Barwis come back to him. That's how former Mountaineer tailback Avon Cobourne, most recently with the Montreal Alouettes of the CFL, and former Wolverine linebacker Victor Hobson, a free agent after five seasons with the New York Jets, came to be working out together in the Wolverines' indoor facility this week. Cobourne, the leading rusher in Mountaineer history (5,164 yards from 1999-2002), ran several 40s in a row, each of them nine seconds.

Maybe this is a good place to point out that Cobourne ran those 40s wearing a harness that dragged a wooden sled with a 45-pound plate on it.

After two months under Barwis, here's what's going on: The Michigan players look and feel different. Mathews went from being able to touch his toes to putting his palms on the ground. He had to buy size 36 jeans to accommodate his thighs. His waist remains a 34.

"I need a new belt, too," he said. "…We could see our bodies adjusting. Everybody is taking their shirts off, wearing tight-sleeved shirts."

The difference puts a smile on Rodriguez's face.

"They'll want to take their shirts off this summer," Rodriguez said. "The linemen even, which is kind of rare. They usually like to cover up. So that part is working well. I didn't want to break it to them, but it's going to get harder before it gets easier. It was pretty tough on some of them this spring, but it will get a little harder on them this summer."

But first, the ugly part. Spring training begins Saturday.

i just came on here to post that. i got 17 and 1/2 boners reading that article. football season cannot come soon enough.

i just hope threet doesnt fuck the dog this season.

Terrelle Pryor it seems his two are Michigan and OSU http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=786954

Also I have heard a lil rumor that he wants to play hoops in college and coach up until last week mich psu and osu only wanted him for football and there is a little rumor that coach rod told him he could play hoops after football there are some rumblings this is the reason he is dont visiting and now ready to make a quick decision. I STILL BELIEVE!!!

Anyways I know zip is gonna hava hissy fit since this isnt under the jethro thread but I guess thats just my bad

Thanks for the update, twins.


"To me, I'd be stunned if he picked anyplace but Ohio State," Farrell stated.

;)

Bullshit twins...

But according to bukdow, Pryor and U of M are a match made in heaven!

What the hell am I supposed to think if bukdow is wrong?!?!?

You should be thinking :motown owns:.

Terrelle Pryor it seems his two are Michigan and OSU http://florida.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=786954

Also I have heard a lil rumor that he wants to play hoops in college and coach up until last week mich psu and osu only wanted him for football and there is a little rumor that coach rod told him he could play hoops after football there are some rumblings this is the reason he is dont visiting and now ready to make a quick decision. I STILL BELIEVE!!!

Anyways I know zip is gonna hava hissy fit since this isnt under the jethro thread but I guess thats just my bad

Twins: If you are correct, and since you have shown the faith since day one, I will admit my douchbaggery to the world, and I've said that before. Keep hoping, this would be TREMENDOUS. Not just that Pryor is great, but that WE pried him from the cold, undead fingers of Jim Tressel.
But I DO recall him saying he was only going to play football in college.

BY THE WAY: Here is the correct and complete denunciation of the Jim Carty bullshit. Pull up a chair, pop some, uh, popcorn, and read the part under "Destroy Harbaugh". And isn;t it about time Harbuagh shuts the fuck up?

http://www.mgoblog.com/