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tommyz 01-25-2008, 06:40 AM thetwins may be onto something.
Tonight, TJB axed "How come no one's axing me about how optimistic I is about TP?"
Usually, if you ax him about TP, he say: "I dont know, do I look like Nostradamus mothufuckAAAA?"
Then, here's a lil Nick Perry info: Nick is coming to Ann Arbors FRIDAY night, gon' have a lil fun up in that mug, then he goin' back to take his ACT on Saturday morning, then he headed back to The A2 to have him some more fun up in that mug!
Shoot, peoples be wonderin' if they's some sort of silent committment and shit.
I knowed that SoCal muthafuckin shit would wear off once Perry got back to Michigan and started freezing his balls of! It's a special feelin you just cain't git in SoCal with all them fags runnin around, actin in soap operas and shit. Makin movies bout two cowboys makin luv and shit.
Nick prolly say: "Hells yes. I feel the M right now. I need to get back to Michigan and HIT somebody"
This is probably the most ignorant way of typing or talking that I have ever seen....Dude needs to go back to the third grade...
Zip Goshboots 01-25-2008, 08:37 AM Wow, tommy, you came back to WTF Detroit just for THAT?
Timone 01-25-2008, 08:47 AM You heard the man.
http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/070320/billy_l.jpg
Zip Goshboots 01-25-2008, 08:56 AM *Pwned
Timone 01-25-2008, 09:01 AM T-T-today junior!
Zip Goshboots 01-25-2008, 09:04 AM Later, Mailman. I'm off to school, main. You know, be hittin' doze books 'n shit.
Timone 01-25-2008, 09:04 AM word
dats gud man u kno ur pops told ya if u pass tha test u get to party wit all dem fine bytches
Zip Goshboots 01-25-2008, 12:47 PM Some good words from JT Floyd, a possible UM recroot:
Floyd, who is committed to Tennessee, said the visit gave him a lot to think about.
"I would definitely say Michigan fans will be happy, but I'm going to leave it at that," Floyd said after returning home. "I want to talk it over with my parents first, take this last visit (to Tennessee) and get everything squared away."
Floyd committed to the Volunteers early in his junior year. To swing the three-star prospect in its direction, Michigan needed to get him excited about the future of its program. Looks like it was mission accomplished.
"Just the vibe of the football players, I think they're excited about the new change," said Floyd. "Everybody's real anxious to get to work, and that strength and conditioning coach — he's one of the best in the nation. The players gravitate to him. I think the Michigan football program is definitely moving in a positive direction."
Moore, like Cissoko and Martin, has already committed to the Wolverines. He said he came away very excited about his future in Ann Arbor.
"They told me about how they use the tight end," he explained. "They told me he'll be flexed out sometimes, he'll be like the H-back position sometimes. They said that's how they're going to use me, in a position like that. It's kind of like the thing that I was doing at my high school."
Etc.— Michigan State played host to Tampa (Fla.) Plant sleeper offensive lineman Rhonne Sanderson last weekend. The 6-foot-4, 280-pound two-star prospect said he liked what he saw.
"The players, coaches and people were all real nice," Sanderson said. "Overall, it was a good place. I got a chance to see snow for the first time, too."
Sanderson said he plans on making his decision after he returns from his visit to Florida State this weekend. The Seminoles have not offered him a scholarship, but they could offer him while on his official visit
Zip Goshboots 01-25-2008, 12:51 PM In Terrelle Pryor's own words:
Terrelle Pryor's Recruiting Diary: Despite what you might hear, no decision on college
Friday, January 25, 2008
Jeannette High School quarterback/defensive back Terrelle Pryor is ranked the No. 1 player in the country by several scouting services and is being recruited by colleges nationwide. Pryor plans to announce his college decision Feb. 6, live on ESPN television. Until then, the Post-Gazette will periodically run a diary from Pryor, as told to staff writer Mike White.
I made my official visit to the University of Michigan last weekend, but I didn't meet with the basketball coaches at all. I didn't have time, but it's looking more doubtful that I'll play basketball in college.
Now that I'm starting to get more realistic about this whole thing, I just think there's no way I could play both football and basketball. Just with school alone, I think there's no way I can do both. Plus, I'm going to want at least a little bit of time to myself.
I'm going to be pounding away at football [in college]. If I want to win a national title, I'm going to have to work out and lift weights in the offseason. Maybe even go over films. Plus, I'll want to chill a little. I don't know if I can do all that and play basketball.
I probably won't know definitely until I step on [college] campus. This is just me talking now, but there's a lot more doubt now about me playing basketball.
I feel better about Michigan since I went there. I took [Steelers backup quarterback] Charlie Batch with me. He's helping me through this whole process. We got every single detail about what they're going to do with me in their offense. I got a good feel for things and a good look at Coach [Rich] Rodriguez.
Charlie hit him with the questions about how they're going use me. He asked if they were going to make me a quarterback or am I going to be running all the time? They'll probably use me like they used Pat White at West Virginia, but I would be throwing more. They said they'd teach me some techniques, and I'll be throwing that thing a lot. But they'll use my athleticism on some plays, too.
It's nice having Charlie there on visits. He asks a lot of the questions. He'll ask a question and I think, 'Oh, that's a good one.'I'd still say it's five schools -- Ohio State, Michigan, Oregon, LSU and Penn State. I've visited Ohio State and Michigan. I can't just take two visits. I have basketball games this weekend, so I might go to Oregon the middle of next week, come back and then go to LSU. I might miss a basketball game or two, but it might be against weaker teams.
I wouldn't leave out Oregon in this thing.
A few Pitt coaches were here [at Jeannette] again this week. They were trying to hit me hard. But they're just doing their jobs.
I'm not going there and I'm not going to visit there, but I'm thinking about maybe just going down there and talking to them. I'll do it just for my Dad because he loves Pitt. So maybe I'll sit and talk with Pitt, just for him.
The recruiting has gotten crazier in the past couple weeks. One reporter dude from Detroit called the school and flipped out on our principal, the secretary, everyone, just because I wouldn't talk to him. My dad told me people have called his house and offered him thousands of dollars if he'd tell them where I was going to college. It's crazy.
The hard part of this is the picking of the school.
Reporters call me and guys from rivals.com call. All of them are just trying to get the scoop. They say, 'You already know where you're going.' I just say, 'All right,' because I don't know.
I really don't know where I'm going. The night of Feb. 5, I'm just going to have to sit down, shut off my cell phone, relax and just think it all over.
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08025/852132-365.stm
Don't bother with the link, it's only there to show the source
WTFchris 01-25-2008, 01:07 PM Well, I think the no bball angle helps Michigan. Their program sucks right now and people complain about the facilities. Other schools (like OSU) might have an edge over Michigan if BBall was a big factor.
tommyz 01-26-2008, 07:06 AM Wow, tommy, you came back to WTF Detroit just for THAT?
I have been back and you have responded to me...What about my post did you not like? Sorry, I can hear jibber jab from my 1 year old and 3 month old grandsons....
Timone 01-26-2008, 07:17 AM You're 34 and have two grandsons?
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 07:41 AM You're 34 and have two grandsons?
aware it was probably a joke
A thirty four year old grandfather is calling ME stupid?
tommyz 01-26-2008, 08:32 AM Yes, im 34 and have 2 grandsons....Where did I call you stupid Zip? That word did not appear in my post........And what is with the backhanded calling me stupid because I have 2 grandbabies?
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 09:00 AM Yes, im 34 and have 2 grandsons....Where did I call you stupid Zip? That word did not appear in my post........And what is with the backhanded calling me stupid because I have 2 grandbabies?
http://trailertrashale.com/imagez/leader.jpg
tommyz 01-26-2008, 09:09 AM http://trailertrashale.com/imagez/leader.jpg
Its funny how you try and rip but have no clue as to why I have two grandsons......
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 09:10 AM Yes, im 34 and have 2 grandsons....Where did I call you stupid Zip? That word did not appear in my post........And what is with the backhanded calling me stupid because I have 2 grandbabies?
http://www.usaweddings.com/scans/novcpls/joke/images/Trailer%20Park%20Weddin.jpg
Timone 01-26-2008, 09:11 AM Moving this to the Terrordome...when Glenn comes on.
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 09:13 AM What's a 34 year old grandpa look like?
http://vmedia.rivals.com/UserMedia/FanPagesPhoto/Gallery/20/O84021.jpg
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 09:15 AM I KNOW tommy's just jealous because Tahoe invented this thread before he did.
tommyz 01-26-2008, 09:18 AM I KNOW tommy's just jealous because Tahoe invented this thread before he did.
lol
Timone 01-26-2008, 09:23 AM Well, this whole exchange lost steam.
Back to football.
Glenn 01-26-2008, 09:55 AM You guys are gonna scare tommy away again.
Zip Goshboots 01-26-2008, 11:56 AM Good reading today, and some BJ Daniels highlights to boot. Just under the BJ Daniles stuff is some good material on the Pryor Predicament that is now facing him and the school he chooses to attend.
http://www.mgoblog.com/
Zip Goshboots 01-27-2008, 04:02 PM Now Desmond Howard gets into the act.
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080127/SPORTS06/801270691/&imw=Y
Desmond: D'ya really think it would have been that easy to poach Miles from LSU in the middle of a national championship run?
The next time I hear the phrase "Michigan Man", it's barf city. That phrase is getting to be as tired and worn out as "toss someone under the bus", which, by the way, "Michigan Men" Chad Henne and Desmond Howard seem to be doing with UM football right about now.
I wonder if Bo Schembechler, the Ohio Man brought in in 1968 to coach Michigan, was faced with dolts who were acting like crying brats every time someone stuck a microphone up their ass.
Zip Goshboots 01-27-2008, 07:16 PM Michigan has at least one bit of good news from this past weekend, and it is GOOD
After returning earlier today from an official visit to Rutgers this weekend, Marcus Witherspoon has decided to stick with his first choice.
According to Holy Spirit High School football coach Bill Walsh, Witherspoon has decided to stay with the University of Michigan. The 6-2, 225-pound All-State linebacker and Courier-Post Defensive Player of the Year made a verbal commitment to the Big Ten school last summer but re-opened the recruiting process right after Michigan named Rich Rodriguez its new head coach.
``He felt the bottom line was that a degree from Michigan has some power,'' Walsh said. ``After meeting with the new defensive coordinator and linebackers coach, he felt comfortable.
``Marcus had a great visit with Rutgers. He liked (head coach) Greg Schiano, the coaching staff and the players.''
Witherspoon also made an official visit to Tennessee. Representatives from all three schools made visits to Holy Spirit in last two weeks as well.
Check back later for an update from Witherspoon and check out Monday's C-P for the complete story.
Zip Goshboots 01-28-2008, 01:21 PM For those of you who are following Tahoe's work here, there is some electricity in the air this fine morning about a possible committment that may happen today or tomorrow night when RichGod makes an in home visit with Terrence Robinson. This is looking good, a RR stamp on recruiting (besides holding this class together, which has been pretty fucking amazing).
Jethro34 01-28-2008, 03:38 PM I've heard rumblings about Perry's visit this weekend but no real data.
Supposedly his brother is saying it went well.
Of course Mallett's mom said Tahoe was NOT in her bed and Ryan hadn't made a decision, so you never really can trust family.
The 9 days between now and Signing Day are taking a terribly long time to get here.
Zip Goshboots 01-28-2008, 04:12 PM The Perry visit went extremely well. Perry's brother was extremely excited. They are LOVING Barwis, and the way the brother spoke indicated that Perry was very impressed, and the visit went a long way with him.
There could be a signing day surprise, but there is strong feeling on Scout that Perry will end up at Michigan.
Glenn 01-28-2008, 04:14 PM It might be time for a BARWIS appreciation thread, or maybe this is already it?
http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/0306/nfl_barwis_275.jpg
Next up: a BARWIS emoticon
Glenn 01-28-2008, 04:23 PM :BARWIS:
Jethro34 01-28-2008, 04:55 PM How long do people think we'll be able to keep Barwis here? The more people know about him, it would seem the more offers will come. Who knows, maybe he considers strength and conditioning coordinator at the most storied university in history to be the pinnacle. That would be outstanding.
Jethro34 01-28-2008, 04:58 PM Avatar changed
Zip Goshboots 01-28-2008, 05:04 PM This is a Barwis Appreciation world.
Zip Goshboots 01-28-2008, 05:07 PM How long do people think we'll be able to keep Barwis here? The more people know about him, it would seem the more offers will come. Who knows, maybe he considers strength and conditioning coordinator at the most storied university in history to be the pinnacle. That would be outstanding.
He's an S&C guy, and loves football. Most S&C type trainers are affiliated with Colleges or pro teams. He'll be involved with all UM sports, and from what I understand, his wife will be involved training The Ladies.
He can still work privately, train guys for camps, and generally be the Most Powerful Man in the Universe without any trouble.
Uh, you didn;t just question Barwis, did you?
Jethro34 01-28-2008, 09:27 PM Absolutely not. I heard the last guy to question Barwis was forced into an eating contest with him. Results, Barwis downed 12 lbs of nails in 45 seconds. The competitor choked on the first nail and died from internal bleeding. Barwis, clearly not impressed, crapped a Tonka Truck made from the same nails he had just eaten.
Jethro34 01-28-2008, 09:45 PM Anyone prepared to speculate how Perry's career could potentially compare with Woodley's when all is said and done?
They have a lot of size similarities.
Woodley, coming out of HS, measured 6'3", 245 with a 315 max bench.
Perry measures 6'4", 240, also with a 315 max bench.
I see the big difference in speed.
Woodley's listed time (according to Rivals) was 4.72 while Perry lists 4.51.
Woodley bulked up at UM and it probably slowed him down a tad.
Nails Barwis will make sure Perry still has the burst, while also being able to punish the guys he hits.
Woodley had an incredible career - but it's certainly possible that Perry could be a legend.
Now, if Perry chooses not to go to UM - and therefore not be paired with Barwis - he'll be a bouncer at a bar in Flint within 6 years.
FillyCheezeSteak 01-28-2008, 10:00 PM Good news for us concerning Perry is that ESPN reported that "Pete" talked with Dan Synder for 9 hours concerning the Washington Redskins job and it sounds like things are moving very quickly for the West Coast Legend.
Zip Goshboots 01-28-2008, 10:59 PM I see Carroll going to the Skins, and USC hiring Tom Izzo AND DingDongtonio, and 43 of USC's best players transferring to Michigan.
Timone 01-28-2008, 11:03 PM Jim Tressel too, as the waterboy.
Glenn 01-29-2008, 05:22 AM Let's just hope that USC doesn't go after :BARWIS:
Jethro34 01-29-2008, 06:44 AM Nostradamus predicted Carroll to the Redskins and Lane Kiffin to USC.
Timone 01-29-2008, 08:06 AM Nostradamus = bullshit.
That is a pretty good prediction though.
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 08:35 AM Here's an interesting read about the coaching hires made this season in the NCAA. Nothing too deep, just rating them. I can't figure out what the writer means by the Jeff Casteel thing; as we all know, Casteel stayed in West Virginny to work with Opie.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/sportsline/main10604892.shtml
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 02:25 PM UM appears poised to land Terrence Robinson of Houston later this week. Just looking at what seems to be an interesting development, and one that RichGod needs to keep going:
If they land Robinson, that would be three top afleets from Houston. Also, UM has scored committments from three of the top four out of Jersey (right?). Lastly, if UM nabs Perry, that would be three or four (I'm too lazy to look it up) of the top five in Michigan.
The Michigan stuff isn't much of a surprise, but those Texas recroots and the Jersey kids could be paving the way for some interesting "pipelines" opening up.
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 02:36 PM Here's the way recruiting could shape up for UM leading up to signing day. They stand at 17 recroots (Wilson gone), and are very likely to land two more this week: Robinson and JT Floyd. That leaves Nick Perry as the last guy Tahoe really believes you could say is "in the fold" as much as you can be at this point.
There could be a committment from Patrick Omameh as well (another Cincy committ who UM and, then, of course, DingDongtonio went after) as a somewhat likely committ.
The rest is gonna be filler, unless UM can talk BJ Daniels and Justin Feagin to come (at which point you can say goodbye to Steven Threet and Cone, probably).
Tahoe don't see them getting to 25. Tahoe see 22, maybe 23 coming in, but a very solid class. And with a little Barwis here and there, and a dash of new energized, passionate coaching, this may prove out to be the best class in the country three to four years down the road.
This thread is kicking DSC's thread's ass. Great work, Tahoe and Jethro!
Glenn 01-29-2008, 02:38 PM The Michigan stuff isn't much of a surprise, but those Texas recroots and the Jersey kids could be paving the way for some interesting "pipelines" opening up.
Did somebody say "pipes"?
:BARWIS:
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 02:43 PM Barwis took a look at Schwarzenneggar in his heyday and asked why Arnold was so fucking fat.
Timone 01-29-2008, 03:20 PM See, it's funny when Zip does it, but not when Glenn does.
Glenn 01-29-2008, 03:21 PM See, it's funny when Zip does it, but not when Glenn does.
So that's how it's gonna be?
Timone 01-29-2008, 03:22 PM Yeah. Don't worry though Glenn, not everything you touch turns to shit.
detroitsportscity 01-29-2008, 03:50 PM Here's the way recruiting could shape up for UM leading up to signing day. They stand at 17 recroots (Wilson gone), and are very likely to land two more this week: Robinson and JT Floyd. That leaves Nick Perry as the last guy Tahoe really believes you could say is "in the fold" as much as you can be at this point.
There could be a committment from Patrick Omameh as well (another Cincy committ who UM and, then, of course, DingDongtonio went after) as a somewhat likely committ.
The rest is gonna be filler, unless UM can talk BJ Daniels and Justin Feagin to come (at which point you can say goodbye to Steven Threet and Cone, probably).
Tahoe don't see them getting to 25. Tahoe see 22, maybe 23 coming in, but a very solid class. And with a little Barwis here and there, and a dash of new energized, passionate coaching, this may prove out to be the best class in the country three to four years down the road.
This thread is kicking DSC's thread's ass. Great work, Tahoe and Jethro!
Yeah 1 MSU fan vs. 20 UM fans and yours gets more pub. SHOCKING.
MoTown 01-29-2008, 03:52 PM Tahoe is an MSU fan during basketball season.
tommyz 01-29-2008, 05:15 PM at which point you can say goodbye to Steven Threet and Cone, probably).
Threet is not going anywhere..He would have to transfer down to D2 if he were to transfer again
Jethro34 01-29-2008, 05:39 PM Plus Threet is really into getting the UM education, so unless his scholarship was somehow yanked, he wants to be there.
thetwins81 01-29-2008, 09:46 PM So I just noticed scout is reporting 9 visitors and I am trying to figure out who they may be...
Bj Daniels
Justin Feagen
Charles Mitchell
Martavious Odoms
Patrick Ohmameh
Thats all I can think of off the top of my head
Any ideas?:BARWIS:
Jethro34 01-29-2008, 10:22 PM I think JB Fitzgerald is heading back to AA this weekend, IIRC.
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 10:24 PM Here's the list from Scout:
Weekend of Feb. 1st
-- 1. *Visit SET* Slot WR Martavious Odoms (5-8, 170) from Pahokee in SE Fla.. Visits: Aub in Nov., and the competition: South Florida Jan. 11, Miami Jan. 25. Thurs., Jan. 31 Coach Rod in-home?
-- 2. *Visit SET* Fla. OL Ricky Barnum (6-3, 280) from Lakeland Lake Gibson High. He just committed to Fla 2 weeks ago. He played in the ESPN/Underarmour game. Thurs., Jan. 31 Coach Rod in-home?
-- 3. *Visit SET* Run-pass QB Justin Feagin (6-0, 195, 4.6) from Delray Beach Fla., American Heritage, in SE Fla. Visits already taken: Louisiana (Dec.) and 'the competition': Syracuse (Ja. 11), BC (Jan. 25). Thurs., Jan. 31 Coach Rod in-home?
-- 4. *Visit SET* OT commit Dann O'Neill
-- 5. *Visit SET* OG commit Kurt Wermers
-- 6. *Visit SET* LB commit Ken Demens
-- 7. *Visit SET* OL commit Elliott Mealer
-- 8. *Visit SET* OL commit Rocko Khoury
-- 9. *confirmed now, ticket arranged* Fla. QB B.J. Daniels (6-1, 190) from Tallahassee Lincoln. Tentative Thu., Jan. 31 Coach Rod in-home. The competition is: South Florida (Jan. 18), Memphis (Jan. 25)
**NEW** -- 10. *confirmed now* Fla. Ath Onterio McCalebb from Lake Mead in the Tampa area. The competition is: Aub. (Sept visit) and Rutgers (Jan. 25). He is coming in *without a U-M offer however*. Signing Day announcement.
-- *possible unofficial visit*: U-M LB commit J.B. Fitzgerald
-- **NEW Nope**: Ohio RB Isaiah Pead (5-11, 190, 4.45) from Columbus Eastmoor. He's visited Pitt Kan 11 and Cincy Jan. 18. He has qualified now.
-- *possible, not likely*: Fla. DB Leonard Johnson (5-10, 175) from Largo. He's an IAST soft commit, but visited S-Fla Jan. 11, Ole Miss Jan. 18, and is visiting WVA the Feb. 1 weekend unless U-M offers.
-- *cancelled* Fla OL Rhonne Sanderson (6-3, 280) from Tampa H.H. Plant
-- *cancelled* Miss. CB Charles Mitchell (5-11, 185, 4.5) from Clarksdale. [END]
Also, I have heard from my "Inside Guy" that Nick Perry is coming back for an unnofficial this weekend. Right now, my "Inside Guy" thinks that USC may have a bit of an edge. Believe it or not, Pete Carroll told Price that he would come in and play right away, because USC is thin at Def End. Fucking liar. USC has about 30 defensive ends. Anyway, my guy thinks Perry coming back is a good sign, and that there is NO FUCKING way Perry ends up at MSU (I'm NOT so sure). I do think MSU has a chance for a signing day surprise, probably about as much of a chance that UM has with Pryor, but still it could happen. If not, I predict Perry will end up in Ann Arbor. USC doesn;t have Barwis; they probably have Richard Simmons.
Zip Goshboots 01-29-2008, 10:27 PM Yeah 1 MSU fan vs. 20 UM fans and yours gets more pub. SHOCKING.
Do I need to Barwis your ass? Is it my fault there ain't no goddamm Michigan State fans in this goddamm world?
thetwins81 01-29-2008, 10:38 PM Thanks For the update Zip and just so you know im sticking by my pryor to Michigan hunch. GO BLUE!!!!!
Michigans starting QB for 2008-2011 Terrelle Pryor mark it down
However I have heard the Perry could end up at Mich but I still think state has a shot as does USC? And I hear RS from Miami was in BMOOREs living room tonight but it sounds like it was all for not.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 07:15 AM Last night you had Randy Shannon sitting on Brandon Moore's couch, and Pete Carroll siting on Nick Perry's couch.
They had coffee, some cake, and of course Pete Carroll threatened to have his "West Coast" posse kill Perry's family unless he signs with USC (that's how Pete Carroll recroots). In fact, right before Carroll left, his parting words to Perry were, "I'm gon' kill all yall mothafuckas up in dis Detroit mug. Yall thank yall can git away wit all dis goin' to Michigan and shit? Dat's fine. But yall muthafuckas need to do sompin about dis Michigan Sate and shit. Day is an embaraasmum to the whole college football mug. You see my gat? (Waves gat in Nick Perry's face) Yall gon' git to know my gat real goood. I'll be back, and when I am back, they betta be no Michigan State and shit up in this mug"
How's THAT for a cool, street cred, "Snoop Doggy Dogg is my homey" kind of approach? That Pete Carroll, he sure is "with it" in terms of being able to talk to today's players, isn't he?
We want to thank Nick Perry's neighbor, Murray Foogthung, for supplying that tape recording of Pete Carroll's threats to Nick Perry and his family.
Tahoe 01-30-2008, 07:42 AM BTW Zip, hold the last info I sent you...don't post it yet...if thats ok. I wanna double check that. Something doesn't seem right with that story. I think you'd agree.
Artermis 01-30-2008, 07:49 AM I dont believe that Perry is going to go so far from home.
Plus the Barwis factor.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 08:25 AM BTW Zip, hold the last info I sent you...don't post it yet...if thats ok. I wanna double check that. Something doesn't seem right with that story. I think you'd agree.
Got it Tahoe, thank Gourd you got to me in time. We may have just saved the lives of over 475,000 people.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 08:30 AM Anybody bother reading Drew Sharp anumore?
A couple weeks ago he said that RichGod MUST get Pryor. Anything less would be failure, and that RichGod might want to consider doing the right thing and committ Harikari if he didn;t sign Pryor.
A couple days ago he said getting Pryor would be an "over rated victory".
This requires no further comment.
MoTown 01-30-2008, 08:34 AM What? That doesn't sound like Drew Sharp at all. What kind of writer plays contrarian in every one of his columns?
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 08:39 AM I know, the consistency and objectivity that Sharp is known for probably took a hit with that juxtaposition. I fear that many of his tens of fans may have been somewhat surprised by this latest column.
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 08:58 AM lol, i caught the second one, didnt see the first. good catch.
DREW SHARP: Michigan coach must beat Ohio State to nation's No. 1 recruit Terrelle Pryor
January 12, 2008
BY DREW SHARP
FREE PRESS COLUMNIST
It looked a little Larry Brown-ish, the new outsider facing the cameras and microphones wearing a Michigan hockey sweater.
Rich Rodriguez showed up in the sweater to prove he's comfortably fitting into the greater Maize and Blue family while still adjusting to his unfamiliar surroundings.
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"Do you know anything about hockey?" a reporter asked Rodriguez.
"I'm about to," he answered.
He has studied the lyrics to "The Victors," although he wouldn't share a quick chorus during Friday's introduction of his football staff. But there's no research required to understand Rodriguez's most important challenge.
He must beat Ohio State -- every day, in every way.
Rodriguez didn't officially take over Michigan until Jan. 2, but already he faces his first win-or-else test against the Buckeyes. And the prize is Terrelle Pryor, a 6-foot-6, 240-pound high school quarterback from western Pennsylvania who's arguably the No. 1 recruiting prospect in the country.
The odds are that Pryor, a Vince Young-wannabe, will never match the enormous hype attached to his potential, but Rodriguez nonetheless must bring him to Ann Arbor.
He must keep Pryor away from Jim Tressel.
He must do whatever it takes.
Failure is not an option. Rodriguez came here with a decisive mandate of implementing change, lifting the successful yet institutionally archaic Michigan football program into the 21st Century. He's creating a strength and conditioning program long overdue at Michigan that he says will "enhance speed." He maintains that he's targeting "fast guys who play fast."
But it's essential that he get Pryor, even if Rodriguez must guarantee him the starting job this fall, no matter the problems of playing a true freshman.
Pryor is a YouTube star. Videos of his high school exploits have made the Internet rounds, fluttering the hearts and accelerating the breathing patterns of recruiting geeks who believe national championships are won on the first Wednesday of February, the official signing day.
Common sense suggests Rodriguez wouldn't have so casually dismissed freshman Ryan Mallett's reticence about returning unless he was certain Pryor would join him in Ann Arbor. Rodriguez told Pryor of his intention to leave for Michigan before he told his West Virginia players.
Rodriguez was evasive when asked Friday if the odds were strong that a true freshman would take the snaps for the Wolverines next season. Mallett's departure leaves Rodriguez with two scholarship quarterbacks. He said he would prefer to have as many as five.
The talent cupboard isn't bare, but it isn't as deep as you might expect from a program that consistently recruits among the top 20 players ranked in the nation. Michigan is thin not only at quarterback, but also at wide receiver and in the secondary.
Among the offensive players Michigan is losing are Jake Long, Chad Henne, Mike Hart, Mario Manningham, Adrian Arrington and Adam Kraus.
"If there's one thing that concerns me," Rodriguez said, it's "that our numbers at certain positions may be a little more difficult to work with. It may require a little more time. But I'm not using the word 'rebuilding.' There are certain national programs that don't take that route, and Michigan is certainly one of them. But there's going to be some growing pains."
It may sound contradictory, but change demands patience.
There is no snap of the finger and -- voila! -- an immediate invitation to the BCS championship game emerges. There will be steps backward before any leaps forward.
Is the Michigan family prepared for that culture shock? Are fans prepared that the Wolverines' 34-year bowl streak could end? A true freshman quarterback leading an offense that's already confused learning a new philosophy is a tough combination.
But give Rodriguez credit for not backing down to the immense challenges awaiting him.
"I've got to be my own guy," he said. "I can't coach or do something that I don't know. If we have success on and off the field, everybody will be happy."
Not exactly, Coach. If you have success against the Buckeyes, everybody will be happy.
He's still learning. It takes time.
DREW SHARP: Michigan landing super recruit Terrelle Pryor would be an overrated victory
January 27, 2008
Remember when the Lions "won" the 2004 NFL draft?
That was when they traded down early in the first round to get Roy Williams and then traded up late in the first round to get Kevin Jones.
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What brilliance!
But who were the arbiters of this alleged championship?
It was about a half dozen national NFL writers and college draft experts entrusted with instantly grading the value of potential because of a hungry public's insatiable need for immediate gratification.
It doesn't matter that time often proves that spot analysis dead wrong. That small pocket of opinion makers accomplishes the NFL's primary objective with the draft of maintaining high interest in the off-season.
And we all know how much that Lions' "victory" that day four years ago has helped them.
It's the same with college recruiting signing day.
It's insane how people react to this most inexact science of talent evaluation. But it's primarily based on a handful of people controlling the grading. The fanatical obsess on their assessments for months, certain that a victory on signing day ensures equal success on the playing field for years.
College football naturally loves the obsession, because it holds tremendous interest in the sport a month after the last game was played. A highly rated recruiting class sells tickets. It builds coaches' reputations. But it has unfortunately given 18-year-olds an inflated sense of self-importance.
Quarterback Jimmy Clausen was last year's No. 1-ranked recruit. He called a national news conference to make his announcement that he would attend Notre Dame, taking a limousine to the news conference. Charlie Weis quickly threw him into the starting lineup, and let's just say Clausen's freshman season could be charitably considered a disaster.
Take note, Michigan fans.
There will be unbridled exhilaration within Michigan Message Board Nation should Rich Rodriguez secure premier quarterbacking prospect Terrelle Pryor on Feb. 6. Pryor likely will start from Day 1, but it's unrealistic to expect anything but a struggle as he adapts to the college game while the Wolverines collectively adapt to a new offensive philosophy.
But landing Pryor would give the Wolverines a big "win" in February.
Hasn't everyone learned how truly overrated these "victories" are, especially when you consider Ohio State has consistently had lower-ranked recruiting classes than Michigan the past five years, but the Buckeyes have accomplished much more during that time.
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 09:05 AM I know, the consistency and objectivity that Sharp is known for probably took a hit with that juxtaposition. I fear that many of his tens of fans may have been somewhat surprised by this latest column.
i think he wrote an honest article and a few weeks later he found the "holier than thou" take that he loves.
Jethro34 01-30-2008, 10:08 AM USC's S&C coach is Will Ferrell, aka Chuck Berry. There's a YouTube video. Still don't know how to embed those in my post.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHkAdusbwuA
Glenn 01-30-2008, 10:09 AM http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GGLF_enUS213&q=Jethro%27s+UM+Football+Thread+
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Jethro34 01-30-2008, 10:16 AM Even if your search is only Jethro UM (synonymous terms, really) it's still #1.
fwiw, we're also #1 if you search Jethro Barwis. Fantastic.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 12:18 PM Great read here. Wonder why RichGod bolted from WVU for Michigan after turning down the Alabama job???
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/football/ncaa/08/02/rivals.recruiting/index.html
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 12:24 PM Google "UM Football threads" and THIS comes up #2 on PAGE 2 Motherfuckers!
Jethro's UM Football Thread - WTFDetroit.comI don't like the name change of this thread. I am protesting. Call it the Jethro UM Football Thread or soemthing. I'm really ticked off this time. ...
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Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 04:38 PM Look at what Tahoe done dug up!
http://fandome.com/watch.php?spid=2&tmid=66&num=1&vid=97276
Jethro34 01-30-2008, 04:54 PM I hope they're right. I heard today that Pryor may actually wait now to decide until he has time to take all the visits he wants to take, meaning we WON"T know his decision one week from now.
Come on.
The things they said in that clip are true. NOWHERE else can he get the immediate starting job, the best offensive scheme for his talents, and a prominent school. Seriously, nowhere else. Every other school after him can only give him 2 out of 3 at best.
But now I guess I just have to trust that RR will find someone that can make his offense work. If not Pryor, then someone. However, Pryor would come with expectations of National Championships. Another QB and we'll have to see the development.
I seriously, seriously think Pryor could win a championship THIS upcoming season at UM - even if Herbstreet thinks UM will only win 6 games this year.
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 05:17 PM when asked how many football championships michigan would win in pryor's 4 years if he enrolled, barwis set the over / under at 4.5, and then took the over.
Wilfredo Ledezma 01-30-2008, 05:23 PM when asked how many football championships michigan would win in pryor's 4 years if he enrolled, barwis set the over / under at 4.5, and then took the over.
I would take the over as well.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 05:28 PM Knowing Barwis, UM will win have the national championship sewn up by July, when all the other teams quit once they smell the PAIN coming from Ann Arbor.
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 05:32 PM Jethro: Allow me a little "poetic License" with regard to Pryor.
He's probably going to end up at Oregon. I think that if even an INKLING of all this shit is true, OSU is going to be deluged with reporters and detective types who are going to spend the next four years prying under every rock, turd, and corvette in the entire state. It could possibly be that even for Jim "Al Capone" Tressel, that would be too much. If Pryor goes to Michigan, he bring some baggage.
I think he WANTS badly to go to UM. I really do. However, if even an INKLING of this shit is true, he is beholden to OSU. Oregon makes sense. UM then takes the kid who is committed to Oregon now (Harper) and BJ Daniels, and Pryor goes on to become a Duck.
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 05:37 PM logical, assuming OSU is / was cheating.
so is it safe to assume that if pryor goes anywhere but michigan that extraordinarilly foul play was involved? i think so.
thetwins81 01-30-2008, 05:43 PM PRYOR TO MICHIGAN IM TELLING YOU TRUST ME ITS ALL BUT A DONE DEAL
Timone 01-30-2008, 05:44 PM I seriously don't want Pryor to come, just so I can laugh at you.
jk
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 05:51 PM I seriously don't want Pryor to come, just so I can laugh at you.
jk
a couple more posts like this and im gonna wake bukdow up and getting him posting on here again
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 05:54 PM I'll admit something, diddy: That last post of yours took me a couple of seconds to figure out. ^^^
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 05:55 PM logical, assuming OSU is / was cheating.
so is it safe to assume that if pryor goes anywhere but michigan that extraordinarilly foul play was involved? i think so.
No shit. Some of this Pryor-Booster-Brew Crew stuff is so blatant it's almost as if it's just a smoke screen or something.
Timone 01-30-2008, 06:04 PM PWNT
b-diddy 01-30-2008, 06:11 PM lol, someone changed the pic, i swear!!. have i been bukdowed???? oh boy. originally, it was a pic of an obese, almost naked, passed out drunk santa in a sewer.
uhhh, the new picture is much worse.
Jethro34 01-30-2008, 06:19 PM Is that Neitzel?
That...whatever...would be hot if it weren't for the junk.
JickBoy34 01-30-2008, 06:25 PM ? so wrong
Zip Goshboots 01-30-2008, 07:06 PM Here's the word on Pryor's latest drama:
Pryor may push back college choice
Wednesday, January 30, 2008
By Mike White, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
High school football players can sign a binding letter of intent with a college, starting next Wednesday. But Jeannette quarterback Terrelle Pryor might not sign with anyone that day.
Pryor had planned to announce his college decision live on ESPN next Wednesday. But he said today he might wait at least a few days to make his choice.
"I'd say it's about 50-50 that I'll push things back," Pryor said.
One of the main reasons Pryor might not sign next Wednesday is because he is thinking about making an official visit to the University of Oregon some time next week.
Earlier this week, it seemed the race was down to Ohio State and Michigan because Pryor wasn't going to visit Oregon. If Pryor visits Oregon, the Ducks will still have a chance at landing him.
Pryor also said yesterday Penn State is not out of the running. Penn State coach Joe Paterno visited with Pryor at Jeannette yesterday. Paterno's son, Jay, Penn State's quarterbacks coach, and PSU defensive coordinator Tom Bradley also were there. They also visited with Pryor's father at his home.
Steelers quarterback Charlie Batch and Pryor's mother were in on the meeting with the Penn State coaches at Jeannette. Batch is helping Pryor in the recruiting process as a mentor.
"It went OK," Pryor said of the meeting. "I just don't know about the area up there. I don't know if I'd like being in that kind of area."
Ohio State coach Jim Tressel and Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez plan to attend Pryor's basketball game Saturday night and meet with him afterward. Jeannette football coach Ray Reitz said Rodriguez is planning to bring seven assistant coaches with him.
Jethro34 01-31-2008, 07:07 AM Did we stop recruiting Vaughn Carraway? It seemed like he was a huge UM lean for a while and the new staff was interested, I thought they even helped our chances with him.
Then I see today that he picked Temple. Temple? I didn't even know they had a football program.
In other WR news, I see that TJ Lawrence apparently made a decision but I have no idea where. I really love articles like that. Biggest story on rivals page but no indication of the choice. You go to the player's page and it isn't updated yet. Thanks for dragging it out one more day because I'm not a subscriber.
tommyz 01-31-2008, 09:02 AM Well, If Pryor wants to drag this on AFTER feb 6, I say screw him...Get after BJ Daniels...Im really getting sick and tired of the perceived Prima Donna show
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:23 AM Jethro:
TJ Lawrence has pretty much been conceded to Florida by Scout. The best hopefuls for UM right now appear to be JT Floyd and Terrence Robinson. Beyond those two, even Perry seems to be causing some concern for Scout at least.
I have a sneaky suspicion that Perry is going to go Green. Part of the problem seems to be that UM has thrown a monkey wrench into alot of the recruiting with the new hire. By that I mean that RR has gone out and talked to alot of kids that weren't targets before, and some other schools are of course going after UM recroots (like Brandon Moore, who seems to be up in the air right now between Michigan and Miami).
Of course, the recruiting services need to keep the people on pins and neeldes with teasers, so they are adding fuel to the fire.
Tahoe is doing all he can to gather the info as it comes in for you guys, but somehow, even TAHOE can't seem to get any answers these days! It's a circus!
It appears that UM has somehow arranged a visit with Harper (though that is not confirmed yet, but Tahoe is on it), the Oregon committ at QB, and BJ Daniels and Justin Feagin are coming in this weekend.
thetwins81 01-31-2008, 09:24 AM JT FLOYD commits to the BIG BLUE MACHINE gotta love it GO BLUE JT is a big score for Rich. Now if we can only steal a few more we will be looking at a superb recruiting class
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:27 AM THIS JUST IN
It seems pretty apparent now that JT FLOYD has indeed committed to Michigan
EDIT
Just confirming what thetwins has already reported.
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:33 AM In case you don't know Floyd, here's his profile. This could get the old snowball rolling. It is RichGod's second recruit (Hill), and he stole this one from Phat Phil Phulmer of Tennessee.
http://scoutcombines.scout.com/a.z?s=450&p=8&c=1&nid=2434182
tommyz 01-31-2008, 09:43 AM A question..Someone mentioned above that this was a big score for RR....A 3 star safety a big score? Can someone give me an example of why I should be excited?
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:48 AM Here's another article about the Ryan Mallett situation, this time from Sports Illustrated.
Let Tahoe know what you guys think. The next couple days aren't going to be too eventful on the recruiting trail, so it's time for some Michigan Football talk to fill in the down time.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/writers/phil_taylor/01/30/ryan.mallett/index.html
The ugly parting of the ways between West Virginia and former coach Rich Rodriguez continues, longer and more drawn out than even the college bowl season.
It has been a bitter battle, with each side hurling recriminations at the other and haggling over money, as in any nasty divorce. The latest development is the offer from Rodriguez, who broke his contract with the Mountaineers to take the Michigan job, to pay West Virginia $1.5 million to leave him alone.
Seems like a reasonable attempt to settle things, except for the fact that his contract with the university called for a $4 million buyout.
But the two parties will eventually come to some sort of agreement, and frankly, we couldn't care less what that compromise is, since both sides have become equally tiresome.
Rodriguez is just another ambitious coach, a native son of West Virginia who swore his love for his state and his school before abruptly bolting for a higher-profile program and a bigger paycheck.
West Virginia is a big-time football program that ought to realize disloyal coaches are part of the business, instead of embarrassing itself by acting like a jilted girlfriend who keeps bugging her ex to get every last CD back. May they come to a meeting of the minds soon, because they're boring the rest of us to tears.
The only people to root for in this whole flame war are the players caught in the crossfire, the collateral damage -- most notably quarterback Ryan Mallett.
Mallett, a freshman, was supposed to be Michigan's next great quarterback, until the Wolverines hired Rodriguez to replace Lloyd Carr. Rodriguez's spread-option offense requires a quick, nimble quarterback who is as dangerous with his feet as with his arm -- not a classic dropback passer like Mallett.
It was telling that one of Rodriguez's first calls upon taking the Michigan job was to high school stud Terrelle Pryor, a QB who seems to fit his offense perfectly. Mallett didn't need it to be spelled out for him: his services at Michigan were no longer required.
He had essentially two choices -- stay at Michigan and quite possibly sit on the bench the rest of his career, or transfer to another Division I school and sit out a season. He chose the latter, transferring to Arkansas two weeks ago.
So next fall, while Rodriguez is coaching the Wolverines, and while West Virginia is battling to make it back to another BCS bowl, Ryan Mallett won't be able to do anything on Saturdays except sit and watch and wait.
It is grossly unfair that Rodriguez can jump from one school to another without missing so much as a snap, that West Virginia will get a few million dollars in return for his departure, while Mallett gets nothing but a year of inactivity. Forget the money that will change hands between the coach and the university, the one who is paying most dearly in this scenario is a player who had nothing to do with it all. But that's the way it is in Division I college sports -- teenage players are held to a higher standard of commitment than the adults who coach their teams.
Mallett, by the way, might not have made the wisest choice in heading for Arkansas, where his new coach is Bobby Petrino, who abandoned the Atlanta Falcons with three games left in the season when the Razorbacks came calling. Given Petrino's lack of regard for a little thing like a contract, it won't be a shocker if Mallett has another coach leave him high and dry before his eligibility expires.
In a perfect world, athletes wouldn't base their college selection so heavily on a coach or a system, but in the real world, that's often how it's done. When a player has the circumstances change as drastically as they did for Mallett at Michigan, he shouldn't be penalized by having to sit out a year in order to find a better situation, any more than Rodriguez should have to wait a year because he wanted a better job.
This isn't to say that athletes should be able to jump from school to school with complete freedom, but in the case of a coaching change like the one at Michigan, the NCAA ought to have the flexibility to allow a transfer without the requisite one-year waiting period. Let Rich Rodriguez pay for his decision to switch schools. Ryan Mallett shouldn't have to.
Of course, the reason for the one-year waiting period for transfers is to discourage players from abandoning a school before they have fulfilled their commitment to it. Gee, where on earth would they get the idea to do that?
[END]
Now this Mallett situation goes deeper than either A)him being a big crybaby, and B)him transfering because UM has gone to the spread.
As we all saw, UM ran a sort of "spread" at the Cap One bowl that seemed like something Mallett could walk into and flourish, possibly winning ten Heisman's and 18 National Championships in three years. No doubt that would be an unprecedented run of success.
But again, the other side of the coin is that Mallett, according to more than a few people Tahoe has stashed away in Ft Schembechler, has been a problem since Day One.
Here is some evidence as to why Mallett may be at fault, and Arkysaw is the best place for him:
A) Professors on campus were known to be very interested in milk cartons, in an attempt to see if Mallett was on any of them, since he was never seen in class.
B) The "on air" blow ups between Manningham and Mallett at the Wisconsin game may not have been Manningham bitching about not getting passes. Mallett was not well liked by the team, and there have been rumors of Mallett being generally regarded as a "Dick head".
C) Mallett, to me, seems not to have had an open ear for what RichGod had to say. It also seems Mallett's mommy and daddy were doing all of his talking. I wonder what would have happened had Mallett stuck around, worked hard, and learned the offense????
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:49 AM A question..Someone mentioned above that this was a big score for RR....A 3 star safety a big score? Can someone give me an example of why I should be excited?
Here's one reason: Maybe you suffer some latent homosexual tendencies and you think he's really handsome? I'm NOT saying that is the case, but you did ask for ONE reason to get "excited".
tommyz 01-31-2008, 09:51 AM Here's one reason: Maybe you suffer some latent homosexual tendencies and you think he's really handsome? I'm NOT saying that is the case, but you did ask for ONE reason to get "excited".
lol....How about a real answer...thanks....
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 09:58 AM LOL!!!
Well, this appears to be a case of a RR type of athlete that Barwis can turn into a monster.
Here's his Scout evaluation:
Floyd has a knack for always being around the ball and making big plays. He shows good instincts and great anticipation. Floyd has good cover skills and is fearless in the middle. He's strong in run support and can cover a lot of ground because of his great speed and reaction time. Offensively he shows excellent hands, body control and concentration. He can make the defender miss or run right by him. Floyd also has good vision and a burst.
Now, first, he is from Souf Carolina, and area RichGod might want to open up for Michigan. Could be partly a legacy recruit.
Secondly, if TWO schools in the SEC go after a guy (probably more, but his final top three were UM, Tenn, and SCar I beleive), he's GOTTA be good, right? LOL
I think it shows that UM is going to be a heavy playa in the souf. But your right, though, a three star may not be all that exciting.
Now tommy, that is your "I Question RichGod and Barwis" mulligan.
Next time you question RichGod, be sure you have a bag to put your teeth in.
tommyz 01-31-2008, 10:05 AM LOL!!!
Well, this appears to be a case of a RR type of athlete that Barwis can turn into a monster.
Here's his Scout evaluation:
Floyd has a knack for always being around the ball and making big plays. He shows good instincts and great anticipation. Floyd has good cover skills and is fearless in the middle. He's strong in run support and can cover a lot of ground because of his great speed and reaction time. Offensively he shows excellent hands, body control and concentration. He can make the defender miss or run right by him. Floyd also has good vision and a burst.
Now, first, he is from Souf Carolina, and area RichGod might want to open up for Michigan. Could be partly a legacy recruit.
Secondly, if TWO schools in the SEC go after a guy (probably more, but his final top three were UM, Tenn, and SCar I beleive), he's GOTTA be good, right? LOL
I think it shows that UM is going to be a heavy playa in the souf. But your right, though, a three star may not be all that exciting.
Now tommy, that is your "I Question RichGod and Barwis" mulligan.
Next time you question RichGod, be sure you have a bag to put your teeth in.
TY......
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 10:24 AM I was in error when I said which teams besides Michigan went after JT Floyd. The other teams he had to choose from were NC State, Georgia Tech, and Tennessee.
Glenn 01-31-2008, 10:34 AM Tahoe was in error when he said which teams besides Michigan went after JT Floyd. The other teams he had to choose from were NC State, Georgia Tech, and Tennessee.
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 10:43 AM Glenn:
Thanks, but the agreement is:
When the info is good, Tahoe gets the credit. However, when I misinterpret what he sends me, it's all Dr Tre's fault.
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 02:15 PM According to Scout, it's OVER between BJ Daniels and Michigan. The feeling seems to be that there were "reasons" that his final two are Memphis and Southern Florida.
So now what? RichGod is turning his efforts toward the Oregon committ, Harper
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=8&c=1&cfg=null&nid=3089447
Well, well. It's looking more and more like it's gonna be Steven Threet at the helm next year!!!
Sorry twins, Pryor is NOT coming to Ann Arbor.
Zekyl 01-31-2008, 05:53 PM Fuck it, we recruited Threet at some point thinking there was talent there. Lets see what Rich and He-Who-Is-Called-Barwis can do with him.
Jethro34 01-31-2008, 09:24 PM In a way I'm excited about seeing Threet there. Why? Because I want him to put up big numbers in the modified spread, bigger numbers than Mallett ever puts up.
Kind of an "F You Ryan".
FillyCheezeSteak 01-31-2008, 10:12 PM Just throwing this out there and feel free to answer or not........
If we go into next year with Threet at QB and no "Black Ass Dual Threat" QB to speak of does this hurt us or help us in our '09 recruiting of QB's???
I'm thinking its a good thing that there will be less competition, but I wonder if a QB sees our offense (I'm thinking Henne in the bowl game) and wonders why we aren't the same 'read option' offense they saw at WVU?
Zip Goshboots 01-31-2008, 10:18 PM Filly: You are beginning to sound a bit neurotic here, worrying about something that hasn't happened, and speculating on what some unknown or un named recroot might possibly be thinking one year from now based on something that Steven Threet might accomplish IF he is the quarterback next year.
I'd say it's time for a warm glass of milk, and a good Winnie the Pooh story, and then nighty night time.
FillyCheezeSteak 01-31-2008, 10:42 PM Thanks Zip. I'll stop posting.
Jethro34 02-01-2008, 07:25 AM Let me get this straight - we're pursuing Chris Harper now, who is committed to Oregon, according to scout, as a RB. But we're pursuing him to play QB. Meanwhile, Oregon also has a commitment from Darron Thomas, who scout lists as a 4 star dual threat QB.
So two dual threat QB's committed to this class for Oregon, and THAT's the school Pryor might delay his decision for? Come on.
MoTown 02-01-2008, 07:53 AM To be honest with you, Pryor sounds like a drama queen. The dude is basking in the media spotlight.
Choosing a college is not as difficult as he wants it to be.
Zip Goshboots 02-01-2008, 08:57 AM Well I think that crap popped up because of the delay and then rumors about Pryor taking a visit to Oregon.
But he's headed for Columbus, we all know that. I'm sure RichGod knows it and is planning accordingly.
There'll be another Pryor or three out there next year anyway.
b-diddy 02-01-2008, 09:12 AM i dont know why you would write him off when nothing is decided. and i dont get why we would get pissed at him for just taking his time and enjoying the recruiting process.
who gives a shit? its this KID's life. i mean, dont you all feel a little dirty obsessing over 17 year old boy's decisions?
whatever. michigan will be fine either way. sharp was right the second time. i had never heard of terrelle pryor a month ago, and its not gonna break me if he chooses osu over michigan.
MoTown 02-01-2008, 09:30 AM I can understand having fun with the recruiting process, but this guy is taking it to an extreme. I could care less about this "17 year old kids life." But I was recruited to play basketball in college. Granted it was Division II & III schools, but I never felt the need to prolong it just for shits and giggles. Even if I was the #1 recruit in the nation, I never would have thought to throw myself a party on national TV as to what school I'm going to.
Talk about delusions of grandeur.
Jethro34 02-01-2008, 09:44 AM Seriously, he's going to play in either Columbus or Ann Arbor. Be honest if you're struggling to decide between the two. Tell everyone else it's not going to happen - because it really isn't going to happen.
Either way you're in the biggest rivalry in college football, either way you're in a northern climate, either way you're going to be drafted in 3-4 years if you don't get injured.
Either way you're going to have people all over your jock. One has guys you hadn't met before this year who seem friendly to you. One has a cousin of yours that you know fairly well. Either way you'll get probably more attention than you want. One you can start this year, the other probably not - but maybe some PT. One there are special deals that could get you paid, the other hopefully not. But come on, Charlie Batch, a millionaire, is banging your mom. You won't be hurting for cash. One has a top offensive innovator and the other has had good offensive teams and good defensive teams, but has never been called an offensive innovator. Either way you play in front of 100,000 fans. Either way you'll be surrounded by top talent - consistent top 15 recruiting classes.
There should be enough intangibles to sway it in Michigan's way. What could I be missing that gives OSU the edge? Tressel's winning streak? That was over a different team and a different coaching staff. Every coach but one is gone, Henne, Hart, Long, Manningham, Arrington, Crable, Adams - all gone. A completely new regime that's going to transform the Big Ten in exactly the way you, as a player, want. Make it happen. Tell your HS coach to STFU and pack your bags with maize and blue gear.
thetwins81 02-01-2008, 10:06 AM Dont Fret I am still telling you we have a shot my conection said Tressel has been beating the door down but he still believes he is Michigans to lose. What it will come down to is weather or not he truley believes he is ready to start in the big ten or not. If it was me though I would be dreaming of throwing TDs to my cousin. Oh and by the way charlie batch is banging his aunt.
Jethro34 02-01-2008, 11:05 AM aunt, mom, whatever. Our new coach is from freakin West Virginia, where it's all the same.
Zip Goshboots 02-01-2008, 12:38 PM Dont Fret I am still telling you we have a shot my conection said Tressel has been beating the door down but he still believes he is Michigans to lose. What it will come down to is weather or not he truley believes he is ready to start in the big ten or not. If it was me though I would be dreaming of throwing TDs to my cousin. Oh and by the way charlie batch is banging his aunt.
On the Batch angle, I wouldn;t be surprised. As for the rest, you are full of shit.
NO WAY is Pryor coming to Michigan. NO WAY.
The benefit to UM will be being in an ersatz "race" for the #1 committ in the country and the free pub RichGod and Barwis will get from it.
thetwins81 02-01-2008, 12:45 PM I can not wait to see how zip eats crow I hear it is tasty...
Dont make me sick :BARWIS: on you
Timone 02-01-2008, 12:47 PM I don't think crow is very tasty at all.
b-diddy 02-01-2008, 12:59 PM zip, do you have inside info or is this something else?
thetwins81 02-01-2008, 03:10 PM Jaron Brown to clemson no real suprise there. Anybody hear anything about T robinson
Zip Goshboots 02-01-2008, 04:09 PM zip, do you have inside info or is this something else?
I guess if you are a UM fan, you can hang your hat on the fact that he hasn't at least committed to OSU yet, when you'd think he would by now if it were a done deal.
On the other hand, you'd have to figure that if he was going to UM, he'd want to committ sooner to help the team possibly land some other recroots for RR's offense.
But it'll be all for naught for UM with this one. TP will be a Buckeye. And UM will just have to Barwis his ass on the field.
Jethro34 02-02-2008, 12:30 PM Looks like UM might try to get commits from 4 players from Trotwood Madison HS in Ohio.
Brandon Moore was already a commit, but apparently he was supposed to be in town with HS teammates Michael Shaw (4 star RB and Penn State commit), Roy Roundtree (3 star WR and Purdue commit), and Domonick Britt (2 star dual threat QB - uncommited).
Not sure how many of them will get offers, but if the staff is desperate enough they may offer all of them and hope they can get them all as a package. Certainly we could use all four in this class.
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 12:48 PM I wouldn't call it desperation, though Britt seems a bit of a reach. He reminds me of the Cosby character Old Weird Harold, who was 6'9 and weighed 50 lbs.
detroitsportscity 02-02-2008, 06:24 PM Let me get this straight - we're pursuing Chris Harper now, who is committed to Oregon, according to scout, as a RB. But we're pursuing him to play QB. Meanwhile, Oregon also has a commitment from Darron Thomas, who scout lists as a 4 star dual threat QB.
So two dual threat QB's committed to this class for Oregon, and THAT's the school Pryor might delay his decision for? Come on.
Yeah, he wouldn't start over those guys. Ok.
It would suck for those kids, but wouldn't really effect him.
detroitsportscity 02-02-2008, 06:27 PM To be honest with you, Pryor sounds like a drama queen. The dude is basking in the media spotlight.
Choosing a college is not as difficult as he wants it to be.
Umm, yeah it can be. Sorry that it was easy for you, maybe it isn't for him.
Add in that he was playing football into December, and is on a BBall team that is using weekends to cross the nation for bigtime games, yeah I can see why he is having a hard time deciding in time.
Hermy 02-02-2008, 06:37 PM DSC coming strong.
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 07:33 PM DSC coming strong.
Yeah, like a typical Spartina. Coming on strong and turning LEFT where the sarcasm meant that he should turn RIGHT. No shocker that a Sparty (and his cabin boy) miss out on humor. I guess that's what happens when no one really notices that you have a football team, and when they do, it's because you blow a 900-3 lead to Notre Dame at home, and the national face of your program becomes Mike Valenti and HR Puffenstuff.
Glenn 02-02-2008, 07:39 PM ahhh, this seems like old times again
Jethro34 02-02-2008, 07:44 PM So, back to UM football. Any news on recruits visiting this weekend? How did it go? We don't pay you for nothing. Bring us news!
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 07:50 PM There's a whole lotta visitors in this weekend. JB Fitzgerald paid his way to Ann Arbor to check it out again, and the Trotwood Gang came in. This could turn into a big package of Wood. HAHAHAHAHAH
Anyway, there's talk of a possible offer to their QB, Britt, and Roy Roundtree, a Purdue commit. All of this, too, may help in landing Michael Shaw, which would be quite a coup if it happened.
Nothing coming out though, just the usual neurotic nature of alot of rabid UM fans on Scout asking the moderators if Terrelle Pryor has picked his nose yet today, and if that means it is a 50.7% chance that he'll go to Michigan.
Just hold your horses Jethro, this thing could really heat up, and Feb 6 could turn into one VERY good day.
Anyone wonder why Pryor just doesn;t committ to the Fuckeyes already? I don;t think the kid's heart is in Columbus. His hemmorhoids, maybe. Not his heart.
Jethro34 02-02-2008, 07:52 PM 4 days away. I'm terribly impatient. If only there was a major pro football game to distract me between now and then with Wolverine alum playing prominent roles on each side. Oh well.
Glenn 02-02-2008, 07:53 PM And you've got Super Fat Tuesday, too.
Eat some paczki's and watch the election results pour in.
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 07:53 PM Yeah, I don't know what you're going to do between now and at least until Monday morning when you go back to trying to pick up the hot chicks at work without trying to get into a sexual harrassment lawsuit
Jethro34 02-02-2008, 07:56 PM Um, I'm a teacher and there's only one hot teacher at work. Anything else would be far more than sexual harassment, since it would have to be aimed at a student. Let's see.....job? prison? job? prison? I simply can't decide. At least I teach at a high school so it would only be jail, instead of jail and millions of people wanting to kill me.
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 08:00 PM Here's a little teaser for ya Jethro, and there isn;t anything more than this on the premium boards. And on the job thing, you got to broaden your horizons a bit. Start checking out the hot dudes just for fun. Give 'em a little "look over" while you're in the Boys Room. Hey, it's the weekedn, baby!
New Best Guess - Feb. 2 Best Guess List.)
With 18 commitments now (we took C-Wilson off the list ... just being honest .. nothing against Christian in fact I personally think he's a fantastic young man {met him both at Army Combine and U-M Camp week ...} and IMO he will be an excellent college player ... just not new-U-M) ...
k ... moving on ... getting to 25 looks like it could be fairly easy now IMO:
19. Terrence Robinson
20-22. Trotwood kids (if U-M decides to pull the trigger today) ... Britt, Roundtree, Shaw
23. Perry
24. Feagin
25 ... several possibilities ... Omameh, Odoma, McCalebb, Barnum, even Harper maybe, etc.
so it's easy ...
My point being -- adding Britt/Roundtree into the mix, if they get offered, makes 25 doable ... because one would assume it'd help a lot with Shaw as well.
also:
... hesitation on Roundtree could be if they think there's goon news coming on Odoms ... or if they decide to go with McCalebb.
... Ditto on hesitation with Britt as far as T-P/Feagin go.
-- Omameh sort is a wild-card factor in this, isn't he, but helps to get to the 25 ... and helps the assertion that getting to 25 shouldn't be hard. I just assume Barnum is a longieshot
Fuck Sparties, and fuck people that look like Sparties
detroitsportscity 02-02-2008, 08:42 PM Yeah, like a typical Spartina. Coming on strong and turning LEFT where the sarcasm meant that he should turn RIGHT. No shocker that a Sparty (and his cabin boy) miss out on humor. I guess that's what happens when no one really notices that you have a football team, and when they do, it's because you blow a 900-3 lead to Notre Dame at home, and the national face of your program becomes Mike Valenti and HR Puffenstuff.
That's why we hired MD, and fired JLS. We didn't blow a lead to ND, and I tihnk we remained legendary Valenti meltdown free this year.
Zip Goshboots 02-02-2008, 11:24 PM Mike, Mike...MIKE! Settle down man! Come on MIKE! Put the GAT DOWN OH GOODDD SOMEONEE HELP MEEEE! OHHHH NOO Mike! That's the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA! MIKE! That's NOT HR PUFFENSTUFF!! OOOOH GOD THE HUMANITY!
Artermis 02-03-2008, 12:24 AM BTW UM can actually probably go to 26 if need be since Stonum wont count against the 25 per year schollie rule.
Plus UM is allowed to oversign by 3. Minnesota BTW is leaving the conference to play in the SEC with their 30+ recruits this year.
I am laying low. The whole Pryor thing has gotten the boards about unbearable to read.
Jethro34 02-03-2008, 06:50 AM Let's hope Stonum's proper paperwork gets in so he doesn't end up like Artis Chambers.
Thanks for helping turn the ship back to UM, Art.
Also, good to know that we can put offers out there and not have to pull many back because of chips falling our way.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 01:42 PM Two days and a wake up til signing day, and here is what Scout thinks may be happening today:
Terrence Robinson expected to announce tonight, things are looking Blue (Rivals and Scout 4 Star)
Justin Feagin is in town with his Moms, and again, he could accept a UM offer as early as today (Scout 2 star, Rivals 3 star)
Martavious Odoms is expected to announce on signing day, and it looks like it's UM or South Florida for him. RichGod had been recrooting him for WVU. He has an offer from Miami, but it's a track scholly (Scout 4 star, Rivals 3 star)
Onterio McCalebb will announce on signing day. He's one to look out for, as he goes 5'11, 175, and runs a 4.35 40. If UM lands Robinson tonight, then RR and Co may have to choose who they offer between McCalebb and Odoms. Odoms is 5'8, 170, and runs a 4.4. (Scout 4 star, can;t find him on Rivals)
Ricky Barnum OL prospect, is in town. Committed to Florida on Jan 11 visit, according to Scout, in a "Here's an offer. Accept it now or fuck off" Urban Meyer kind of way. He's a growing boy, right now he's listed at 6'3, 280. Was at 260 last year at this time. (Scout 3 star, Rivals 4 star)
In our next post, we'll take a look at the Ohio Trotwood gang, and have some updates on others.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:09 PM As promised, here's a look at the Trotwood kids that UM has in this weekend. Note that Michael Shaw isn't in town, and apparently has shut himself off from recrootniks so he can make a decision. It seems that it's down to UM and Penn State. We'll talk about Shaw later in this post.
Roy Roundtree 6'1, 185; Currently a purdue committ, he is apparently here to get an offer, and it is believed he will accept on the SPOT. Rivals lists him as a 4 star, Scout a 3 star. Rivals say he run a 4.4, Scout say he run a 4.5. Either way, he's an Ohio kid who could help UM reestablish itself as a recrooting force in the Buckeye state, along with the other Trotwoodians (like Brandon Moore and Michael Shaw)
Domonick Britt 6'5, 190; the quarterback of Trotwood Madison. 4.6 40. Originally a Cincinnati committ, he opened things back up awhile ago, as word spread that he was actually pretty good. Was looking at Pitt, a few other schools, and WEST VIRGINIA. He'd be a project, probably redhsirt him, but with Barwis, the kid just may be a future combination of Tom Brady and Michael Vick. Scout says they'd be surprised if Britt got an offer today (he's in town with the TW Gang), and that he may not accept even if he did, but I think maybe he'll end up in Ann Arbor. It seems these Trotwood kis are all pretty smart, and they want to get the hell out of Ohio and move up to Michigan, and I can't blame them. Scout 2 star, but very raw.
Michael Shaw 6'0, 185, 4.4 40, and benches 265 (That's what Tyler Hoover benches. See? Even THINKING about working out with Barwis makes you stronger). Obviously, after (or maybe ahead of) Brandon Moore, this is the Trotwood guy you want. He is struggling with the PSU-UM decision, and if UM steals him consider it 11 big wins in a row over JoePa. No one can get hold of Shaw (and believe me, Tahoe is trying), and I think he's trying to shut out the noise of the Penn Staters. It looks pretty good right now, but I do think it will be a surprise, as he has been listed for a long time as a "solid verbal" to Penn State. Rivals and Scout 4 star.
It is believed all these Trotwood Madison kids would love to play together in college; it also appears that they are GOOD enough to accomplish that. While the Sparties are creaming in their panties because the genius Dantonio is recruiting speed (wow, glad HE thought of that), and grabbing some Ohio kids, UM is still going after the BETTER players in Ohio, and is snagging them, with the possibility of getting more.
I know Jethro was worried about UM handing out schollies like "candy", but taking a look at the players they are seriously pushing for (and we'll update on a couple others), you can see that not only is RichGod upgrading from his Morgantown recruiting trail, but he is going after talent. And he must have attended a Mark DingDongtonio seminar about recruiting SPEED also.
Boy, is the college football world lucky that Mark DingDongtonio invented speed.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:14 PM Tahoe is telling me that we have a committment announcement. Stay tuned.
What the fuck else you got to do today?
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:18 PM Justin Feagin has Committed to Michigan!!
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:21 PM Well, at least THESE guys took notice:
http://www.sciencenetlinks.com/images/interactive/meercat.jpg
detroitsportscity 02-03-2008, 02:27 PM McCaleb is a 4 star on Rivals
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:31 PM I'm listening to WTKA (Ann Arbor) on the "intranet", and just found out two interesting things:
Sometime within the next two weeks, RichGod is inviting members of Bo Schembechler's 1969 team to come in and speak to the current team about transitioning to a new coach. John Bacon, the author of a new book about Bo, said RichGod will be surprised how many guys from that team come in.
Also, UM is having some sort of "All Alum" reunion in February to get behind RichGod, the new coaches, and the new team, to mend all fences, and move Michigan football forward. I won;t be there. Remember, when I applied to UM after high school, they killed four of my cousins, three of my brothers, and my dog and then said they might get "angry" with me if I pursued my application any further.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:34 PM McCaleb is a 4 star on Rivals
Thanks DSC. What does Rivals rank Britt?
The neurotics on Scout are, of course, giddy over not offering Britt yet; they think it means Pryor is coming.[smilie=beat_deadho:
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:38 PM For those of you who may be thinking about going to bed early, keep in mind that Terrence Robinson is expected to announce his committment tonight at 11:30 EST (That's 8:30 for Denny McClain).
You may want to stay up so you can be a part of history.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:46 PM Word has reached us from Tahoe (who is live in Ann Arbor) that Michigan has offered a scholarship to Onterio McCalebb.
NO offer to anyone else at this point.
By the way, no one has heard from Patrick Omameh, whom UM began recruiting (and MSU then decided to go after, of course). He is supposed to be making his decision this weekend between Spartina, Cincinnati (he was a Bearcat commit earlier), and Michigan.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 02:50 PM I'm going to go on record right now as saying that Patrick Omameh is exactly the type of guy Jethro is worried about in terms of scholarships and candy. He is more of an MSU kind of guy. But, MSU doesn't have Barwis. They have this guy:
http://m.blog.hu/cr/crossfit/image/Fat%20aerobics%20instructor.jpg
Timone 02-03-2008, 02:58 PM Is that John Travolta?
JickBoy34 02-03-2008, 03:15 PM zip...i truly appreciate relaying the info you receive, and putting your zippy spin to it. good reading for sure.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 04:25 PM zip...i truly appreciate relaying the info you receive, and putting your zippy spin to it. good reading for sure.
Jick, anytime, man. I'll realy that to tahoe.
detroitsportscity 02-03-2008, 05:01 PM Thanks DSC. What does Rivals rank Britt?
The neurotics on Scout are, of course, giddy over not offering Britt yet; they think it means Pryor is coming.[smilie=beat_deadho:
3 star.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 05:22 PM Thanks again, DSC. Dammit, you should be a Michigan Man. What is it with you and the Sparties?
Anyway, I hope the far more intelligent readers of THIS board aren't the neurotic, panic stricken, non reading FUCKTARDS that fill the premium boards like Scout.
These guys haven't been paying attention: RichGod is recruiting GOOD PLAYERS. There are LOTS OF STARS next to most of their names! And the myth that UM recrooting is always "Top 5" is such fucking bullshit that I wonder if these guys ever do anything but sit in their rooms jerking off to Rick Leach posters.
For one, Rich Rod is late in the game. Recroots have been working with their perspective teams for YEARS. Tressel has been massaging Terrell Pryor's feet and giving him Corvett's since Pryor was in fourth grade. That's just one example. Even Josh Jenkins was considering WVU, and was PISSED at RR for leaving that school. When you have six weeks, things ain't gonna be very easy.
As I've said, RR's best job has been holding this class together, and if he had a place for Christian Wilson, it appears that UM would not have lost ONE recruit that Lloyd left him with. That's amazing. Nebraska lost TEN when they canned Callahan, and only have one back: Will Compton.
It will be interesting to see what RR does as he goes deeper into his Michigan career.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 06:40 PM Well, 0 for 1 so far:
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=725962
Zekyl 02-03-2008, 07:04 PM Zip, you'd have to think it would only improve as the years pass, as he cements himself here and has a full season to do his recruiting.
Tahoe 02-03-2008, 07:12 PM Well, 0 for 1 so far:
http://michigan.scout.com/a.z?s=162&p=2&c=725962
He's a fucking traitor.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 07:13 PM Zip, you'd have to think it would only improve as the years pass, as he cements himself here and has a full season to do his recruiting.
Exactly. But it would be nice to see him steal some of these late recruits as well.
Zekyl, we know as Michigan Men that there is nothing to worry about.
Now if RR lands Perry and Pryor, holy shit, all the sudden this class is one of the best ever for Michigan.
thetwins81 02-03-2008, 09:33 PM zip I have been telling you TP IS A MICHIGAN LOCK FOR REAL HE WILL COMMIT ON SINGING DAY.. If not then he just wants to take a couple free trips AA will be the home for Terrelle Pryor mark my words by the time it is said and done best recruiting class EVER PERIOD......BRADY NEEDS TO KEEP IT UP GO BLUE>> FORLIFE DRINKIN AND THINKIN
Jethro34 02-03-2008, 09:39 PM I will be sad to miss twins, because he has had quality posts. IF TP ends up in AA he'll stick around. Anything else and I'm guessing we never hear from him again.
By the way, never knew TP played football, basketball AND he was a singer. Why else would he announce on Singing day?
thetwins81 02-03-2008, 10:44 PM you will here from me; if im wrong im wrong and I move it on it wouldnt be the first time glad to hear that you care though. But honestly im telling you I have heard from two different good sources he is going to UM honestly the biggest indicator from what I hear from a person inside the um football family is that if Mich offers britt then they dont expect tp but if no offer goes out to britt the majority feeling is TP is coming also a coach I know in PA tells me it will be mich just because of the pt available.......
:BARWIS: is my homeboy
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 10:53 PM That is some kind of "connected" you claim to have there, son. The ONLY thing I can see in your favor is that I'm curious why he hasn't gone Buckeye yet.
What do people tell you about Perry?
Jmich24 02-03-2008, 11:28 PM Terrence Robinson picks Meeeeeechigan
http://michigan.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=769716
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 11:39 PM As Jmich reports:
Terrence Robinson is Blue!!
http://michigan.scout.com/2/726007.html
Ty this for the video link to his announcement:
http://www.click2houston.com/video/15207716/index.html
thetwins81 02-03-2008, 11:47 PM My connection inside is a player on the team I also know some influential boosters and son like I said before dont worry about it he will be in AA TROB though gotta love that also I would believe that is why odoms is so sold on Miami now. And as far as perry goes I cant say where for sure but he wont be leaving the state from what I hear. Michigan has the whole tradition and actually a chance to play in a bcs bowl thing but his friends are at MSU so it depends if he chooses Winning or friends. My pick though is he will also end up in AA but not as confident about that as pryor.
Zip Goshboots 02-03-2008, 11:58 PM My connection inside is a player on the team I also know some influential boosters and son like I said before dont worry about it he will be in AA TROB though gotta love that also I would believe that is why odoms is so sold on Miami now. And as far as perry goes I cant say where for sure but he wont be leaving the state from what I hear. Michigan has the whole tradition and actually a chance to play in a bcs bowl thing but his friends are at MSU so it depends if he chooses Winning or friends. My pick though is he will also end up in AA but not as confident about that as pryor.
http://web.syr.edu/~rtharper/bullshit.jpg
Timone 02-04-2008, 12:00 AM Twins, you're a nice guy and all but...
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:13 AM Twins, you're a nice guy and all but...
http://www.thechiefsource.com/uploaded_images/bullshit-799209.jpg
Timone 02-04-2008, 12:21 AM http://www.star.niu.edu/images/photos/full_1193628293_1090.jpg
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:24 AM http://alltalksports.files.wordpress.com/2007/08/john-stockton-keeping-it-real.jpg
Timone 02-04-2008, 12:27 AM Twins, I do not doubt that Terrelle can make it far on American Idol next season.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:33 AM Since RichGod and Barwis came to town, UM has landed these recruits:
Brandon Smith 4* New Jersey DB
Taylor Hill 4* OHIO LB
JT Floyd 3* DB/ATH Souf Carolina
Justin Feagin 3* FLORIDA QB
Terrence Robinson 4* TEXAS RB/Slot
and lost 4* Christian Wilson (still looks like the only loss, though some worry about JB Fitzgerald and Rutgers)
Still more to come???
Possible Onterio McCalebb yet; and still now word on the Trotwood gang. Patrick Omameh will announce on signing day (things seem awful quiet with this guy, and with the sites about him. I'm thinking Cincy or MSU for him)
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:34 AM Twins, I do not doubt that Terrelle can make it far on American Idol next season.
http://www.angryconservative.com/home/Portals/0/Blog/Sanjaya_Malakar_Wins_Votes.jpg
Timone 02-04-2008, 12:38 AM Singing day will be interesting.
I think Pryor should take a visit to the "Zip Goshboots Soul Thread" for ideas on what to sing for his audition.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:42 AM Here is my prediction for the song he'll have to learn:
kubb6o9szZY
Timone 02-04-2008, 12:46 AM Wonder what Simon has to say about Terrelle's attempt to sing "Hang On Sloopy"??
Dreadful. Just absolutely terrible. You sound like a whiny little Buckeye.
http://flowtv.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/simon-cowell.jpg
b-diddy 02-04-2008, 01:15 AM http://web.syr.edu/~rtharper/bullshit.jpg
hold on a second. you've been even more adament that pryor isnt coming to michigan, but in the same vain as the "jim tressel is a badass" theme (how much of a badass is he now, btw?)
i dont get it. the most likely scenario is that TP really hasnt made up his mind yet and is gonna take these final few days to decide. i dont get all the conspiracy theoring, the "no chance in hell" he comes to michigan attitude, when obviously there is an excellent chance he comes to michigan.
quite frankly, its a little spartina for my liking.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 08:41 AM I know nothing about the kid, and suspect nothing in terms of OSU and boosters and all that other garbage.
I'm applying a little common sense here. Michigan wasn't even on his radar until RR got hired, and then we don;t know how much, actually. He's from Pennsylvania. Sometimes, these kids are actually FANS of the team they go and committ to.
Yo're thinking for a 17 year old. I'm thinking that he's from Pennsylvania, and from the sounds of it, Ohio State was the first team to jump on him, and he seems to have been a fan of the Buckeyes on top of it.
Sometimes thses kids aren't mercenaries. Sometimes they ARE just kids who want to play football.
RR has had an uphill battle with Pryor and just because Michigan fans are impressed with The Helmet and The Fight Song doesn't mean some kid in Pennsylvania is.
Pryor wants to play in the NFL someday. How many quarterbacks has RR put into the NFL?
MoTown 02-04-2008, 08:55 AM How many QBs has Tressel put in the NFL? I know Mr. Smith is there, but a 6th round Heisman winner? Not sure about that one.
I'm not saying anything about where Pryor will go, because I don't know and don't care. I was just refuting your point.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 09:02 AM Therefore, there is no argument to be made then, about which school will equip him better for the NFL.
I'd love for him to go to Michigan. I think RR will know exactly what to to with him, and how to recruit around him. If he goes to PSU, it'll be a waste of talent, and if he goes to Ohio State, it'll be three years of Tressel destroying the Big Ten again.
MoTown 02-04-2008, 09:19 AM However, MICHIGAN as a school has put many QBs in the pros, regardless of who the coach is. Rich could change that around, but that has yet to be determined.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 12:43 PM I would like to see RR recruit a QB and then mold the offense around that kid, as he claims he can do.
In other words, if a Chad Henne or Tom Brady wants to go to Michigan, I wouldn;t want to see RR not go after him because he doesn't fit the spread.
From what we saw in the Cap 1 bowl, I DO think RR can accommodate any type of QB that is out there, so I'm optimistic for the future of QB's at Michigan. Right now though, there sems to be a perception that you're gonna have to run the ball more to be a RR QB. Pryor would be a great way to change that perception.
In the end, though, if UM wins a national championship or three under RR in the next decade running the Wing T or the fucking Wishbone, I'd be just as happy as if he won it passing 900 times a game.
thetwins81 02-04-2008, 04:14 PM So part one of my prediction will come true as TP will announce on Wednesday. Also notice how no offer for Britt
Wednesday zip get your crow ready
I told you :BARWIS: is my homeboy and with all due respect please take that bull shit call of yours and stick where the sun don't shine; son!
Oh and by the way I have heard Moma will be visting AA Today or Tommarow another good GREAT SIGN
MoTown 02-04-2008, 04:17 PM I think no matter what happens, the confrontation between Twins and Zip will be funny on Wednesday.
Glenn 02-04-2008, 04:17 PM Might as well start the Terrordome thread in advance.
Timone 02-04-2008, 04:17 PM LOL I can't wait.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 04:19 PM Here's an interesting article, there twinns:
By Jack McCallum, SI.com
One of the most eagerly-anticipated high-school football recruiting battles in years will likely end on Wednesday at noon in the Jeannette (Pa.) High gymnasium. That's where Terrelle Pryor, an all-purpose, all-state quarterback is "80-90 percent sure" he will announce his college decision at a nationally televised news conference. Pryor had considered delaying his decision until after Signing Day, but has apparently changed his mind.
Sources believe that Pryor is leaning toward Ohio State, which had been the early favorite of the western Pennsylvania star with 4.4 speed. But there has also been much speculation that Pryor, whose 8,499 career yards were almost equally divided between passing and running, would choose Michigan and the spread-offense philosophy of new coach Rich Rodriguez.
Oregon was also attractive to Pryor, but he never made an official visit there, partly because he was so busy with basketball. (He's an all-state forward, a 6-foot-6 forward with supreme athleticism.) Pryor told the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Monday that he was going to call Oregon and tell coaches that the Ducks were out of the picture.
Penn State was also a serious suitor, but in the end the decision came down to Ohio State or Michigan. The battle for Pryor has been the story this recruiting season and the way he keeps changing his mind, it may not be over. But right now, the best guess is that the Buckeyes have won.
Sorry twins.
http://www.megagadgets.nl/images/bullshit2.jpg
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 04:21 PM I don't think a terrordome will work here.
For if twins is right, I will be the happiest person in the whole wide world! YAAAY!
Look at it: If he's right, UM wins the next 36 NC's. I ain't gonna be no H8TER here!
Timone 02-04-2008, 04:22 PM Twins, IF you are wrong...would you be willing to change your name to Dildo for me?
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 04:25 PM If he's right, I'll change MY name to Dildo for one week.
thetwins81 02-04-2008, 04:26 PM No I wont but it would be like losing to ohio state twice in four months. But I am telling you that wont be the case
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 04:29 PM twins, I think you just may be a Buckeye playing around here. That won't work, homey.
UM doesn't need Pryor. He'll be there in next years class, and every year from here to eternity.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 04:43 PM We do have an interesting development regarding Ricky Barnum, the four star who is a "soft verbal" to Florida. He was apparently pretty taken by his visit to UM, and there is growing optimism that he is now leaning toward the Blue.
This would be a good steal from Urban Cryer.
thetwins81 02-04-2008, 05:12 PM wow you called me a buckeye that really hurt you just play downright dirty dont you know a buckeye is nothing more than a hairless nut....
CindyKate 02-04-2008, 05:54 PM Twins, IF you are wrong...would you be willing to change your name to Dildo for me?
If he's right, I'll change MY name to Dildo for one week.
So there will be a dildo either way? Yaay!
b-diddy 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM im no recruiting expert, but i think its an exageration to call pryor an "available every year" type player. i looks damn exceptional to me.
i love it. michigan vs osu for the top recruit in the country. what drama! wednesday is going to crawl by at work, does he announce at 12 pm eastern?
b-diddy 02-04-2008, 05:57 PM ive always said the more dildos the merrier.
Tahoe 02-04-2008, 06:42 PM Jesus Christ this board is going to turn into a bunch of dildos.
Timone 02-04-2008, 06:48 PM ive always said the more dildos the merrier.
What does your wife/gf/mistress say about that?
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 09:06 PM http://www.intimleksaker.se/images/Liquorice_Dip_Butt_Plugs-4.jpg
JickBoy34 02-04-2008, 09:21 PM ill put a dildo on if zip does...i think every Um fan should have to sport dildo's if pryor picks UM. have a pryor/dildo parade.
Jethro34 02-04-2008, 09:32 PM I'll have wood like 41 - won't need a dildo
Zekyl 02-04-2008, 09:58 PM This got gay fast.
Zip Goshboots 02-04-2008, 10:50 PM http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/austin7777/boner.jpg
Timone 02-04-2008, 10:56 PM I have a boner right now. In fact, I have a boner every day.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 09:31 AM Good read on the recruiting process for some Michigan high school talent:
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080205/SPORTS05/802050361/1004/SPORTS
thetwins81 02-05-2008, 10:48 AM zip whats the deal with mcguffie Is there any truth to the rumors I have not heard anything personally but it looks like scout is saying something about cal maybe??.. Is this kid nuts he would be so stupid not to come to the U he will fit perfectly in our O
tommyz 02-05-2008, 10:51 AM zip whats the deal with mcguffie Is there any truth to the rumors I have not heard anything personally but it looks like scout is saying something about cal maybe??.. Is this kid nuts he would be so stupid not to come to the U he will fit perfectly in our O
Ah, rumors...He is 100% Maize and Blue
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 11:10 AM twins, for a guy who seems to be so "connected", you sure don't seem to get it with McGuffie. He's been solid BLUE since Day One. The Cal visit seems to have happened, but what the fuck? If someone wants to pay for me to visit them, I'm there!
McGuffie is the LEAST of the worries. Right now, there is great concern over JB Fitzgerald and Rutgers. Other than that, the class seems SOLID, and probably will grow to about 23 or 24 by the time it's over.
It looks as if it's not going to happen between UM and Roundtree. He didn;t get the "on the spot" offer he may have thought, and he's probably going to end up a Boilermaker. As for Britt, I dunno. Seems to hinge on Pryor, and who knows with him. First, Pryor is interested in Oregon. Then he rules them out. Latest is that maybe he WILL visit Oregon.
It's time to send the Maize Mojo to Jeanette, PA, and somehow, by mental telepathy (we UMers have alot of mental energy to send. The Sparties brains are fully maxed out with that breathing in and out thing) convince Pryor to come to Michigan. There is room for hope here.
If not, then Threet will just have to settle for the next three Heisman trophies.
MoTown 02-05-2008, 11:21 AM I don't think he claims to be connected, only connected to Pryor.
Glenn 02-05-2008, 11:39 AM If not, then Threet will just have to settle for the next three Heisman trophies.
Our grandchildren will refer to them as "Threets", in fact.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 12:14 PM Looks like Nick Perry and Mark Ingram are going to announce their choices...today? I'm hearing they'll announce at 3:30 for Perry and 3:00 for Ingram.
Ingram seems to have narrowed his choices to Alabama and...IOWA???
As for Perry, since he is announcing today (as yet unconfirmed by Tahoe), I'm thinking he's Blue.
Get on board, JB and Terrelle, the Barwis Express is set to roll.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 12:16 PM As for Twins, a very reputable poster on Scout is relaying some very good info about Pryor as we speak.
I may be changing my name to Dildo for a week after all.
b-diddy 02-05-2008, 12:19 PM i love having things to look forwardto all day.
fuck yea perry, come to me!
is it down to msu / usc /um?
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 12:23 PM diddy: I have had the gnawing in my gut that Perry was Green, but I seem to be the only person on the planet to feel that way. Of course, our UM h8ting buddy, HipDigIt, thinks Perry is a lock to USC, then MSU.
There is NO ONE I have talked to, who is rational, that thinks Perry will end up wasting away under DingDongtonio, but I just have a feeeelling...
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 12:27 PM Tell me if any of you are going to be able to sleep tonight.
The tension is so thick you could cut it with a knife.
Timone 02-05-2008, 12:27 PM I actually just woke up from my nap, so I'll be good to go all night.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 02:23 PM Per Scout, Nick Perry will NOT be announcing today, instead TOMORROW at 11:00 EST. Bad info from another site.
Dammit, Tahoe, get it straight!
In home with RR and Perry was cancelled by Nick. Instead, the Family held a private meeting. The feeling there is his Family WANTS him to stay home, but hell, Nick is thinkin' beachez and bitchez, baby! Who can blame him?
b-diddy 02-05-2008, 02:26 PM damnit, and uh oh are my two responses to that post.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 02:40 PM Here's more: There are questions about "academics" with Perry surfacing. Though they are probably the product of a Sparty Flamer, no one on Scout is disputing them. I thought the kid WAS qualified. I also can;t think there's a difference between MSU, UM, and USC for getting qualified and in.
McCalebb is headed for Auburn apparently. That one IS a legitimate "Academic Casualty". He couldn't qualify for UM or his other choice, Rutgers.
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 02:45 PM Looks like UM has secured a committment from either Omameh or Barnum. Scout won;t release the name yet, the kid wants to announce tomorrow and has to make calls to those he turned down.
Most on Scout think its Omameh. Project, but could be worth it. At least DingDongtonio didn;t snake him (if true).
Ohhh MY! It's OMAMEH!!
Sorry, DingDongtonio
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 02:51 PM Mailman, we gonna stay up all night and have a recrootathon? It'll be historic!
Glenn 02-05-2008, 02:53 PM Looks like UM has secured a committment from either Omameh or Barnum. Scout won;t release the name yet, the kid wants to announce tomorrow and has to make calls to those he turned down.
Most on Scout think its Omameh. Project, but could be worth it. At least DingDongtonio didn;t snake him (if true).
Did they issue an "alert"?
That always cracks me up.
Timone 02-05-2008, 02:56 PM Mailman, we gonna stay up all night and have a recrootathon? It'll be historic!
Count me in!
http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/lang_whitaker/04/11/golf.tips/p1_tiger3.jpg
What could be better than waiting for recruiting updates?
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 03:35 PM You never know who's going to committ at three A.M!
http://www.dogwoodridgeoutdoors.com/shared/Editor/assets/GreatHornedOwl.jpg
MoTown 02-05-2008, 03:35 PM What could be better than waiting for recruiting updates?
Visiting Cleveland?
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 03:41 PM That ain't even funny Motown.
Timone 02-05-2008, 03:51 PM You never know who's going to committ at three A.M!
You're telling me!
http://images.jupiterimages.com/common/detail/55/38/22183855.jpg
Timone 02-05-2008, 03:52 PM Visiting Cleveland?
Why in the heck, ahem, why in the FUCK would you say something like that?
MoTown 02-05-2008, 04:16 PM Mistake?
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:17 PM I forgive you.
You're still my boy.
http://www.fatheringforums.com/images/FatherAndSonFishingCleaned.jpg
MoTown 02-05-2008, 04:28 PM Like Shaq and Kobe!
http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-blog/IMG/cache-150x150/arton25317-150x150.jpg
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:31 PM <---- Kobe.
I do average 30+ posts per day.
sometimes I think I'm ruining the board
Tahoe 02-05-2008, 04:31 PM Like Phil and Kobe...
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/4195/pkys1.jpg
Zip Goshboots 02-05-2008, 04:33 PM More like this
http://www.metroactive.com/papers/metro/01.16.97/gifs/stooges3-9703.jpg
Tahoe 02-05-2008, 04:34 PM I think I need to have a talk with myself. About tolerance.
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:35 PM I fail to see how humor hurts the board when nothing's going on.
Tahoe 02-05-2008, 04:37 PM I fail to see how humor hurts the board when nothing's going on.
NOTHING GOING ON??? WE ARE ALL RACKING OUR COLLECTIVE BRAINS FOR A NEW NAME FOR YOU!
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:40 PM It's not about me. It's about you and everything you've contributed to Michigan football fans.
http://www.mikebogo.com/images/jesus.jpg
Tahoe 02-05-2008, 04:51 PM It's not about me. It's about you and everything you've contributed to Michigan football fans.
Thanks but...
Per Scout, Nick Perry will NOT be announcing today, instead TOMORROW at 11:00 EST. Bad info from another site.
Dammit, Tahoe, get it straight!
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:53 PM We all screw up every now and then.
like MoTown...http://web.mit.edu/cchuu/www/images/angry.jpg
Zekyl 02-05-2008, 04:54 PM I forgive you.
You're still my boy.
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/5/3/5/5356f61f3e09d8cae6d95090c9ee7a4d.jpg
http://tinypic.com/jj1vnd.jpg
Timone 02-05-2008, 04:58 PM THERE'S NO ICE IN MY LEMONADE.
SO, ZEKYL, WHILE YOU'RE AT IT...DROP AND GIVE ME 10.
b-diddy 02-05-2008, 05:10 PM hopefully terrell pryor is as good at committing to michigan as he is at toying with my emotions. i just cant tear myself away from the updates
http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/3082803/2/istockphoto_3082803_worried_student.jpg
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