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Glenn
06-18-2007, 09:37 AM
I'm trying to come up with a three way deal that gets KG to LA, Kobe to a contender (in this scenario, Chicago) and young players and picks to Minnesota.

This is the best that I have been able to come up with so far:


OUTGOING

Minnesota
Kevin Garnett

Lakers
Kobe Bryant
Andrew Bynum
Future 1st rd pick

Bulls
Ben Wallace
Thabo Sefolosha
#9 pick
Future 1st rd pick


INCOMING

Minnesota
Andrew Bynum
Ben Wallace
Thabo Sefolosha
2 future 1sts (one from LAL and one from Chi)

Lakers
Kevin Garnett
#9 pick

Bulls
Kobe Bryant


Probably needs some tweaking, but I think these three teams could get something done.

WTFchris
06-18-2007, 10:01 AM
What about this one:

KG and Davis from Minny to LA

Kobe to Chicago, Odom to Minny

Deng, Sweetney and #9 to Minny, Duhon to LA


Minny:

Foye/Hudson
McCants/Hassel
Deng/Jaric
Odom/Howard/Sweetney
Noah or Hawes/Madsen/Blount

*use #9 on big man (Noah or Hawes)

LA:

Duhon/Farmar/Vujacic
Davis/Cook or Rush/Evans
Walton/Radmon/Evans
KG/Radmon/Cook
Bynum/Brown/Cook

*use first rounder on Cook or Rush

Chicago:

Hinrich/Gordon
Kobe/Gordon
Nocioni/Sefolosha
Thomas/PJ
Wallace/PJ

*have to resign PJ or bring in a vet like DD

Glenn
06-19-2007, 11:16 AM
Chris,

If those salaries work, I like this one.

Maybe a bit rich for the Bulls (Deng, 9 and Duhon, specifically). Sweetney is just filler.

No comments on my deal?

Cross
06-19-2007, 11:24 AM
Chicago is giving up too little imo. Thabo and a future is nothing proven. Insert deng or gordon and duhon, then I think its fair but if that deal goes down, Paxson is god

Glenn
06-19-2007, 11:30 AM
Cross, just to be clear, you are saying that this is not enough to give up for Kobe?


Bulls
Ben Wallace
Thabo Sefolosha
#9 pick
Future 1st rd pick

You might be right, but I just want to make sure I'm understanding what you are saying.

Cross
06-19-2007, 11:40 AM
Yeah that is not enough imo. Other teams could offer a much more better package. For example, Marion, Diaw, Barbosa for Kobe. Rip+Sheed.

Glenn
06-19-2007, 12:00 PM
I agree that those are better players, but acquiring Marion and/or Diaw and their BIG contracts leaves you with a lot less flexibility than younger players with small contracts.

I see your point, however.

WTFchris
06-19-2007, 12:15 PM
Ben is a waste for LA if you are trading Kobe. They wouldn't want Ben's contract if they move Kobe because they won't win right away anyhow.

Glenn
06-19-2007, 12:15 PM
What keeps the season ticket holders happy?

Ben is going to Minny in my deal, btw, not LA.

He'd sell some tickets, some jerseys/other merchandise and more importantly, tutor Bynum.

Cross
06-19-2007, 12:19 PM
There is no way to really trade for Kobe without doing a sign and trade, and that again will take some time. Ben would be the only way for a trade before the season begins.

WTFchris
06-19-2007, 12:22 PM
What keeps the season ticket holders happy?

Ben is going to Minny in my deal, btw, not LA.

He'd sell some tickets, some jerseys/other merchandise and more importantly, tutor Bynum.

Oops. It's the same story though. ben needs to be on a contender IMO. Otherwise you are basically getting two years of hustle for nothing (because you won't be ready to win until he's WAY past his prime). He'll just be an anchor (salary wise) on your team in a couple years. The only exceptions are teams willing to pay taxes where Ben's contract won't really matter (Dallas and NY). I think if they move KG they definately want a couple young players and the pick. Would you rather build with Ben, or build with Deng?

Glenn
06-19-2007, 12:26 PM
Minnesota is going to get stuck with at least one big salary in any KG deal, IMO. They almost have to.

That said, they would also clean up with picks and young talent too (offset to the big salary).

So if you need to take on one big salary, why not make it a guy that is marketable, and whose work ethic can rub off on the entire team?

WTFchris
06-19-2007, 12:27 PM
I wonder if he'd be happy there being more of the man (which he was not here in the last year), or if he'd complain not being on a contender.

Zekyl
06-19-2007, 01:04 PM
Probably a bit of both. He'd be the main marketable asset there after the trade. He'd probably be the face of the franchise for a year or so. But he'd be on a perennial loser, and guys that have been on winners for years get used to being on winners, they don't usually do so well moving to a loser to finish their career.