cccsdad:
I repeat: Every Oklahoma coach who has won a national title has seen it followed up with PROBATION for violating rules and/or canning players who did something illegal.
Using your school as an example of "Tradition" is akin to using Al Capone as an example of an "Entrepreneur".

Just got off the phone with Keiths father, he said Keith is very excited and ready to get to OU and compete. Also, I asked him about rumors that Keith has some type of injury. He said quote "I've been ask that a bunch because of all this internet junk, and I can tell you right now, KEITH is NOT injured and ANYONE that posts otherwise is flat out lying"

Take it for what it's worth.

Just got off the phone with Keiths father, he said Keith is very excited and ready to get to OU and compete. Also, I asked him about rumors that Keith has some type of injury. He said quote "I've been ask that a bunch because of all this internet junk, and I can tell you right now, KEITH is NOT injured and ANYONE that says otherwise is flat out lying"

Take it for what it's worth.

Just got off the phone with Keiths father, he said Keith is very excited and ready to get to OU and compete. Also, I asked him about rumors that Keith has some type of injury. He said quote "I've been ask that a bunch because of all this internet junk, and I can tell you right now, KEITH is NOT injured and ANYONE that posts otherwise is flat out lying"

Take it for what it's worth.

It will be interesting to see if not taking people for their word here is a two way street or not.

Of course, it's up to everyone here to believe you or not (Tre at least has a track record here), but thanks for the info in any case.

I make a post regarding the Keith Nichol injury rumor, and it gets moved to a thread that is locked and that no one can respond to, yet I noticed the original post from Dr Tre, is still on the main subject page. Can somebody please explain this to me.

Is it because my post isn't a negative post. I'm sure had I posted something to the effect of, "I've confirmed that Keith Nichol was injured" My post would be left up. Is this N. Korea?

I don't know who would have locked the thread, we really don't do that here.

I'll move this there and unlock the thread.

Sorry.

Can one of you admins please PM me and let me know why you are removing my posts? Am I breaking some sort of board policy? All I did was relay the information I had received. I thought the posters would appreciate hearing an update on Keith, and would be happy to hear that he is not injured, apparently the admins are affraid Tre will look bad, so they are removing my posts becasue it directly contradicts his information. Please let my post stand and let the readers decide what they choose to believe, or not.

Again, is the America, or N. Korea? Are we only allowed to get one side of the story...Come on guys, I know you are better than this.

I would if I knew who was doing it. Mods can delete your posts too if they are the mod on that forum.

what posts are being removed? I see 4 posts by you, were more removed? if so, what were the contents?

Can one of you admins please PM me and let me know why you are removing my posts? Am I breaking some sort of board policy? All I did was relay the information I had received. I thought the posters would appreciate hearing an update on Keith, and would be happy to hear that he is not injured, apparently the admins are affraid Tre will look bad, so they are removing my posts becasue it directly contradicts his information. Please let my post stand and let the readers decide what they choose to believe, or not.

Again, is the America, or N. Korea? Are we only allowed to get one side of the story...Come on guys, I know you are better than this.

You got that right brother, don't you dare disagree with Tre, or call him out.

Tre has stated that the Nichol story he posted is 100% true, your information (if ture) debunks that, so that my friend is why Tre is pulling your posts. This confirms my belief that he fabricated that whole story, why else would he be removing your posts. He's trying to save face, and he doesn't wan to allow anyone to respond to you, so he's moving your posts to a locked thread. That way he can claim he didn't delete them, But he can keep anyone from responding and calling him out on them.

I would if I knew who was doing it. Mods can delete your posts too if they are the mod on that forum.

what posts are being removed? I see 4 posts by you, were more removed? if so, what were the contents?



Just got off the phone with Keiths father, he said Keith is very excited and ready to get to OU and compete. Also, I asked him about rumors that Keith has some type of injury. He said quote "I've been ask that a bunch because of all this internet junk, and I can tell you right now, KEITH is NOT injured and ANYONE that posts otherwise is flat out lying"

Take it for what it's worth

I believe this was his original post, which has now been moved to a locked thread.

Yes, I saw that, and Glen fixed that. That may have been Tre, I don't know. His post was at 3:14 and Tre's last activity on here was at 3:17. If anything has happened since, it definately wasn't Tre. But he may have moved that. Perhaps he thought Pinetar was making it up, but that's no reason to move the post. He should have called Pinetar out. That's assuming Tre had anything to do with this.

For the record, I read your post and did nothing. Personally, i don't believe you. That is only because I have no idea who you are and there is no way to prove you aren't lying (there is no way to prove Tre isn't either really). I have no advance knowledge about the situation so I chose to let someone else question your authority if they want to. You may be a liar, you may be correct. I don't know.

For the record, I read your post and did nothing. Personally, i don't believe you. That is only because I have no idea who you are and there is no way to prove you aren't lying (there is no way to prove Tre isn't either really). I have no advance knowledge about the situation so I chose to let someone else question your authority if they want to. You may be a liar, you may be correct. I don't know.


Believe me or not, why would someone move the post? Is someone trying to protect somebody or their rep?

Believe me or not, why would someone move the post? Is someone trying to protect somebody or their rep?
Just venturing a guess, but it would either be that or they thought you were a spammer (which is a bad reason since you only posted it once). Can't say. They'll have to come forward to know.

No posts were deleted, all posts were moved to the original thread to keep this from spreading to a new thread.

I didn't noticed that the thread had been locked by Jethro last night (I can see that now in the logs) but Tre didn't do shit.

Relax guys, we're not going to alter your posts or stop the discussion, we don't do that here, just trying to keep things all in one thread.

Jethro can speak for himself on why he locked the thread, but I'm sure it had nothing to do with "protecting Tre".

You guys need to take the time to find out what happened before you go running your mouths or accusing me. If you could take 5 minutes, you'd see that the post was moved to the Keith Nichol thread. Why would it be moved there? hmmm...let me see, maybe because it was about KEITH NICHOL?

Usually when you have information about a topic already posted, you post that info there. Damn these stories haven't brought in the best that's for sure.

Again, is the America, or N. Korea? Are we only allowed to get one side of the story...Come on guys, I know you are better than this.

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/ASIANOW/east/06/09/putin.nkorea.01/link.kim.jong.il.jpg

"Fuck you and your freedom of speech! WTF rulez!!"

I have an idea who locks threads...MOD POWER!

Damn. I had locked the Nichol thread hoping certain people would go away. Was it a communist move? Sure, why not. Desperate times call for desperate measures. I think it's interesting that everyone assumes this whole board is designed to protect Tre from looking bad.

Are you out of your mind? Before you got here we were all too busy bashing each other to care about much that happened south of the Ohio River. I could care less if Tre looks bad. He's a big boy and can handle himself. But so far all I've seen is one guy post some info and give his source while several others found it through a search engine, joined up and flew off the handle. Now they've become trolling morons and they infect the forum I love. Do I care how Tre looks? Nope. Do I wish I could set new rules for the forum and throw out the trash? Hell yes.

I locked the thread days ago because I wanted to encourage one hefty idiot to leave for good, but no, he just infected several other threads. So now you know who did it and why. Hold me responsible.

As for Nichol, I'm guessing we will never, ever know the truth. Why? Because he won't take any snaps next year and it won't matter if he was injured or not unless it was career threatening. It's all a pretty meaningless story anymore. It had no impact on recruiting either way and it's a kid I never cared about anyhow. He was the next 0-for Stanton if he stayed commited to State.

I guess I can assume that you wont be asking your source this question. I do find it odd, you went into tremendous detail regarding the Dar Tucker story, yet you are very, very, very vague when it comes to this Nichol story.

I would have been willing to give you the benefit of the dougbt, but your total unwillingness to provide any type of specific information, combined with the fact that it's been over a week since you broke this rumor, and nothing else has come out, plus the negatvie comments you have made about Keith being dishonest and not honoring his commitment to MSU, leads to no other conclusion. You concocted this story out of spite.

My apology stands to all on this board, but you.

If you truly believed I was lying, you would have let this go a long time ago. You can find morons on lots of mb's that make shit up all the time, therefore if you truly believed I made it up, I would assume you would have just let it go and took it as another made up story by some idiot.

Obviously there is a little something inside you that realizes I'm not one of those helpless freaks that has nothing better to do than make things up on mbs. And good for you because you do indeed have reason to believe this isn't made up.

I don't know how to say it any more clearer. Someone very close to Nichol shared this information with me. If you don't believe it, that's fine. I don't care if anyone believes it. I would never call up my source to ask more questions even if the story was extremely important to me. This is my source and I don't want them thinking I'm an obsessive freak.

You have insulted me from the second you got on this site and called me a liar, so why would I do ANYTHING for you? It would be out of line for me to contact my source about something said at our Christmas party, and I sure as hell am not going to step over the line for you.

The fact that I've had varied vague-ness between my two stories gives credence to the fact that they are true. Every situation is different and if someone is telling the truth the amount of info they can give will vary. With that being said, I am done with you. And so is everyone else.

Props to Jethro for trying to get rid of this clown.

I don't doubt you are telling the truth about what you heard from your 'source', but Dr Tre on an internet MB will never in a million years convince me that Nichol does or does not have an injury, and like I said earlier, I could give a rats ass if he does.

Too add to your post, Chris, in terms of academics, here's a fun fact for you.

Top Universities in the country:

Michigan is ranked in the top 25.
Michigan State is ranked in the top 70.
...still searching for first ranked Oklahoma school....
oohh - there's one: University of Tulsa at 88...
...still looking...
THERE'S OKLAHOMA!
Just barely cracking the top 125 Division 1 schools at 119.

SOLID ACADEMICS.

Can I see this list?

Yes sir - from USNews.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/college/rankings/brief/t1natudoc_brief.php

Oregon sitting pretty at 120. (FYI I'm an Oregon fan so it pains me that they're rated below OK)

Pinetars thread is locked, so I want to put this here:
Paraphrased quote from Jethro:
"Do I want to make a set of rules and throw out the trash? Hell yes"
Jethro, quotes like that remind me of the old Twilight Zone episode where the guy devised a machine to make all the "evil" people in thw world really short. At the appropriate time, he, of course, was reduced to a "mini-me" sized person.
From what I've read, old boy, if you threw out all the "trash"--Your shit would be the first stuff to disappear.

For the sake of my sanity, please take Keith Nichol's mug off the front of the site...MOD POWER anyone?

I have no clue how to mess with that stuff, if I even can. I think that's Syndicate only.

Hope this will help clear up this whole injury rumor.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=625356

Checked it out, cleared up nothing. This is the second time you attempted to start a thread that should have been posted in the Keith Nichol thread. Therefore, you are swatted.

At least if you are going to post something to try and prove a point, make it something that we can actually view.

Can who ever DELETED my post regarding the Keith Nichol injury, please pm me and tell me why you took down my posts but left Tre's up?

I posted quotes from Keith's father regarding the rumor about him (Keith) having a serious injury to his throwing arm. My post was not moved, it was DELETED. I thought it was worth posting since the quotes came directly from Keith's Father.

Tre posted information about Keith being injured, and his post is still up, why are all the threads that debunk this rumor, being DELETED??????????

Actually, I see someone swatted it...I will look into it.

It's a legit site, it's the Oklahoma Rivals Site, although I think by mistake I said in my post it was from the Oklahoma Scout Site.

You people are killing me. At least leave a shadow or PM him after we went thru this already.

well, I just read the link and it doesn't address the injury at all. They swatted it to the stands because you gave a misleading link (never mentioned the injury at all).

well, I just read the link and it doesn't address the injury at all. They swatted it to the stands because you gave a misleading link (never mentioned the injury at all).


I think you might want to re- read, it specifcally address the alleged injury. Here is a direct quote from that story


That's right the ever popular rumor mill has been turning on the message boards around Michigan. The latest rumor has been that Nichol had suffered some sort of serious arm injury, and though the specifics of the injury were never give, the elder Nichol was quite precise in response to the talk.

"Keith is such an upfront and honest kid, he would never keep something like that from Josh (Heupel)," he explained. "In terms of our experience with him he is probably at his athletic peak. As far as I can remember, he is the healthiest he has been at this point in time. Usually he is healing some bumps and bruises but he is in great shape right now, injury free."

That's all restricted, pay stuff. You posted a link to a pay site that you're the only one who can read, genius.

This is what you link said:


A few weeks ago Keith Nichol simply had a decision. Now the reality of that decision is beginning to set in for his family, particularly his mother and father. For Gary Nichol the matter of him leaving has come and gone, and now it's simply a matter of letting his son become the man he hopes to have raised him to be. In fact, Nichol has plans of letting his son enjoy his first weekend on campus by himself. However, that's not to say that there aren't some plans to further ingratiate the Nichol family with Oklahoma's program, and Norman itself.

Show me where the injury stuff is mentioned. And not in some pay link either.

This is what you link said:



Show me where the injury stuff is mentioned. And not in some pay link either.

again, here is a DIRECT QUOTE from the article.
That's right the ever popular rumor mill has been turning on the message boards around Michigan. The latest rumor has been that Nichol had suffered some sort of serious arm injury, and though the specifics of the injury were never give, the elder Nichol was quite precise in response to the talk.

"Keith is such an upfront and honest kid, he would never keep something like that from Josh (Heupel)," he explained. "In terms of our experience with him he is probably at his athletic peak. As far as I can remember, he is the healthiest he has been at this point in time. Usually he is healing some bumps and bruises but he is in great shape right now, injury free."

If you believe that article, then it sounds like he's not hurt.

Doesn't mean that Tre fabricated his story, maybe Nichol was playing a joke on Tre's cousin and didn't realize that it would blow up in his face?

In any case, as much as I disagree with Tre on almost a daily basis, I still don't think he just made this up. I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Gotta love the fact that "the man he hopes to have raised him to be" gets to spend the WHOLE FIRST WEEKEND on campus BY HIMSELF!!!
What then? Does Daddy Nichol become the RA in Keith's dorm? Do they move a trailer next to Owen Field and the whole family moves in?
Does Daddy Nichol sit in on team meetings? Maybe he's designing "Secret Plays" for his son and will give some of them to Stoops.
Can Keith Nichol even wash his own balls when he takes a shower yet?

sound like your offering to help with that "ball washing"

Gotta love the fact that "the man he hopes to have raised him to be" gets to spend the WHOLE FIRST WEEKEND on campus BY HIMSELF!!!
What then? Does Daddy Nichol become the RA in Keith's dorm? Do they move a trailer next to Owen Field and the whole family moves in?
Does Daddy Nichol sit in on team meetings? Maybe he's designing "Secret Plays" for his son and will give some of them to Stoops.
Can Keith Nichol even wash his own balls when he takes a shower yet?


I'm sure it would be much easier for Keith to wash his balls, if you would remove them from your mouth first.

The second one is better, go with that one.

ha ha

Is this mic on?

Beat out-

Redshirt freshman Sam Bradford was named Oklahoma's starting quarterback Tuesday, ending a three-way competition.


Bradford emerged as the clear winner Saturday when he completed 12 of 17 passes for 130 yards and four touchdowns in a scrimmage, distancing himself from junior Joey Halzle and freshman Keith Nichol.

Woulda. coulda, shoulda: MSU be lookin' pretty tight right about now, in retrospect, of course.

I was under the impression (mistakenly, it seems) that they basically "promised" him the job.

I'm sure that there aren't any Sparties out there taking any pleasure in this at all.

I was under the impression (mistakenly, it seems) that they basically "promised" him the job.

I'm sure that there aren't any Sparties out there taking any pleasure in this at all.
LOL...the kid wanted to win, not rebuild. He made the right choice. Just like Jonas Gray made the right decision.

I don't take any satisfaction at all and I don't wish for him to have a bad career either. That's the part about the Nichol thing that nobody seemed to believe way back. Everybody thought I was mad about Nichol not coming to State, so I spread a rumor. Not the case at all.

If I was an Elite 11 qb in his situation, with MSU not having a coach at the time and the program looking shaky, NO WAY IN HELL DO I STAY COMMITTED THERE. That is your future you are messing with.

Now that Dantonio has cleared some of the shit out of the program and is laying the foundation for a more tough and respectable program, I bet Nichol would've flourished there. He would've had a great opportunity and been the future face of the program. Oh well, I wish him well.

MSU gets Nick Foles from Drew Brees H.S. in Austin, in the wake of all this bullshit. Bummer!! Have fun in the Big 12 Keith. No problemo here.

LOL...the kid wanted to win, not rebuild. He made the right choice. Just like Jonas Gray made the right decision.

Would you ever claim that the right decision would be to go to State in any sort of scenario? I doubt it.

LOL...the kid wanted to win, not rebuild. He made the right choice. Just like Jonas Gray made the right decision.

He wanted to play. Preferably for the best team he could, but PT was #1.

Kieth Nichol is transfering from Oklahoma has not announced where I would not be suprised to see him back in the state somewhere

GRAND RAPIDS, Mich. (WOOD) - 24 Hour News 8 Sports Director Jack Doles confirmed that former Lowell High School all-state quarterback Keith Nichol is leaving Oklahoma University, and will transfer to another school.

Nichol played one season with the Sooners, but decided to transfer. He said he has not yet decided which school to attend. He was expected to play for Michigan State University, but ended up picking Oklahoma.

24 Hour News 8 will continue to follow this story.

Stoops probably didn't want him because of his injury.

If he went someplace like GVSU would he have to sit out a year, or not?

Stoops probably didn't want him because of his injury.

Okay, that's good.

If he went someplace like GVSU would he have to sit out a year, or not?


90% sure he wouldn't have to sit out. You can go D1--->D2 or backwards without penalty.

I think Hermy is correct. If it's outside the division I think you can play immediately.

I just love it when this thread gets resurrected.

I just love it when this thread gets resurrected.

I agree, but it's not really as much fun without him around to really make it painful. Although with his normal out clause he has this one could definitely be chalked up to "it was someone else that told me" so I can't take any blame.

Where's Keith Nichols' gay lover when we need him most?


And as a result has decided to spread this rumor in an attempt to make it appear as if Keith is some sort of shady character that's trying to pull a fast one. This crap that Keith isn't being honest is just an attempt to make the kid look bad.

He has no proof and has offered NONE. First he said this came straight from the kids mouth, then he said, he heard it from his (Dr. Tres) cousin. To date he still has not addressed the issue, why he didn't bother to ask when, where, and how, Keith received this injury.

Again, there is no reason for Keith, his parents, his coaches and all his inner circle to lie. It will be found out the day he reports to school and is required to take a physical as all scholarship athletes are required to do. If this was true, he would have no chance, ever of playing at OU, because he will have destroyed the trust of this coaching staff. I call total BS on this story and defy anyone to provide any tangible proof, out side of hearsay.

Tre can't because he has none.

Bkelly and him are down.......

Rumor has he has already verbaled to UM I was in lowell this afternoon and its supposibly the worst kept secret in the country. Personally I dont think we need him but gotta have faith in RR

So wait, by the time he was able to play, that would potentially put him, Newsome, Beaver, and allegedly Forcier still as an option - all able to get their first PT at the same time?

My faith in RR is faith that he would NOT do that.

Rumor has he has already oraled UM I was under lowell this afternoon and its supposedly the worst kept secret in the country. Personally I dont think we need him but gotta have faith in RR

Cincy would be fine with me, that would probably get to Pastor Mark almost as much as if he went to UM.

UM would simply be a horrible fit for him. He may be good, but if he can't handle competition he wouldn't have left Oklahoma, right? So why would he compete with 3 other 4 star QB's with as much, if not more, eligibility than he has?

MSU would be a better fit for competition sake, but would he want to subject himself to that? Anytime he did even the smallest thing wrong the fans would be all over him.

Cincy might just be a nice home for him. They signed 3 QB's in 07 and have Brendan Kay in the 08 class, but none of them have the potential Nichol has. Kelly would take him in a heartbeats and would love to stick it to Dantonio.

Rumor has he has already verbaled to UM I was in lowell this afternoon and its supposibly the worst kept secret in the country. Personally I dont think we need him but gotta have faith in RR
Woow

this thread is a trip. I never thought to read it b4.

Title fixed.

Rumor has he has already verbaled to UM I was in lowell this afternoon and its supposibly the worst kept secret in the country. Personally I dont think we need him but gotta have faith in RR

Has there ever, in the history of the world, been a guy who has been not just wrong, but stupefyingly dumbfuckery wrong beyond all the wrongness that has ever occured, even on the planet Wrongetron?

He's on Scout, too, with the same dumbfuckery and wrongness. And yet, he keeps coming back.

This person has GOT to be a joke.

Well, he was right about Pryor going to UM wasn't he?

Oh yeah, I forgot that one.

"Supposibly"?! Are you fucking kidding me? How the hell can you spell s-u-p-p-o-s-i-b-l-y and not step back for a minute and say,"Hey, that is incredibly, retardedly, wrong".

Nichol listed as a starting WR in the spring depth chart.

:kennythejet:

REDSKINS!!

#Cousins2Nichol4SB

Dantonio will replace Shanahan in a year.

Mark it down. Not even kidding.

ZBeau Insider!

Dantonio will replace Shanahan in a year.

Mark it down. Not even kidding.

Can you refer me to some sort of countdown clock for this?

Guess who is the sideline reporter for Spartan football?

I think I'm going to read this whole thread again, WHEN I HAVE TIME