I've been pretty lucky lately to come across some nice inside information. I've got more today and it involves Elite 11 Quarterback Keith Nichol of Lowell, Michigan.

As many of you know, Nichol is one of the nation's finest quarterbacks. He committed early to Michigan State. After a poor MSU season, USC and Oklahoma came a calling. Nichol decided to decommit and go with Oklahoma. Nichol's insider reasoning was MSU's poor season and the ability to start from Day 1 at OU.

Well, Nichol seriously injured his arm/elbow on his throwing arm just recently. He is trying to keep the injury a secret. His classmates and some of his closest friends do not even know about the injury. He wears it in a sling when he is not around others and he's trying to keep the injury a secret from OU.

Nichol is very worried about the injury and the seriousness of the situation. He doesn't know whether or not he'll be ready at the start of next year. He currently is working with a baseball pitching coach after school trying to gain his arm strength back and regain the motion in his arm. This could effect his stance with OU especially with Mustain rumors flying around.

Just thought this would interest some here.

Sounds to me like Dantonio is floating this one. He's hoping Bob Stoops calls Nichol up and says something about it, calls him a liar, a sneak, and the next thing you know:
BAM! Nichol is a Sparty.
I definitely smell a rat.

Just curious.............but why would USC be recruiting Nichol? They received two early committments from top California QB's (One 4* and one 3*). They missed out on Forcier and Claussen and both Kiffin and Sarkisian seemed to be okay with it as they both teamed up to recruit a kid named Corp.

Sounds to me like Dantonio is floating this one. He's hoping Bob Stoops calls Nichol up and says something about it, calls him a liar, a sneak, and the next thing you know:
BAM! Nichol is a Sparty.
I definitely smell a rat.

You need help, seriously. And no he isn't floating it. This is 100% true. Once again, I'm not giving up my source, but let's just say I had near Keith Nichol contact yesterday.

Just curious.............but why would USC be recruiting Nichol? They received two early committments from top California QB's (One 4* and one 3*). They missed out on Forcier and Claussen and both Kiffin and Sarkisian seemed to be okay with it as they both teamed up to recruit a kid named Corp.

The USC thing is out of Nichol's mouth. But, you know high school kids. Sometimes a phone call here and there gets them telling everybody "So and so is recruiting me."

Let's just say it's a chance for Nichol to change his mind again, and give him a "soft landing" in East Lansing. I know that if I'm Dantonio, I know the kid has a heart for Sparty. He's been wanting to lead them into 5th or 6th place in the Big 10 for his entire life.
Hell, he'd LOVE to live up to Stanton's standard of pushing Michigan to overtime not once, but twice in his career.

Let's just say it's a chance for Nichol to change his mind again, and give him a "soft landing" in East Lansing. I know that if I'm Dantonio, I know the kid has a heart for Sparty. He's been wanting to lead them into 5th or 6th place in the Big 10 for his entire life.
Hell, he'd LOVE to live up to Stanton's standard of pushing Michigan to overtime not once, but twice in his career.

One thing I'm starting to realize in life is that when you run your mouth, it ends up screwing you over in the long run. Crack jokes, all I know is that things have changed more with this MSU program in the last 2 wks than they have in 6 years.

Dr Tre:
Technically, I am agreeing with you.
Theoretically, we've seen this broken record out of Camp Sparty since 1968.
We jaded Wolverine fans will poke fun, and if Dantonio can reverse the culture of shooting yourself in the foot, then we'll be the first to cheer.
Because, that's the Michigan way: Class, dignity, and congratulating the other guy when he does well. We'd like to see the Sparties do well, and actually hope they DO perform well. But, as UM'ers, we are intelligent, intuitive, and above all, realistic.
When the Sparties show us something worth noting, we'll note it.
Until then, we'll have to assume that you guys are going to run into an iceberg.

I know that if I'm Dantonio, I know the kid has a heart for Sparty. He's been wanting to lead them into 5th or 6th place in the Big 10 for his entire life.
Hell, he'd LOVE to live up to Stanton's standard of pushing Michigan to overtime not once, but twice in his career.

Even though I'm more of a Spartan fan, I actually found this quite funny.

One thing I'm starting to realize in life is that when you run your mouth, it ends up screwing you over in the long run. Crack jokes, all I know is that things have changed more with this MSU program in the last 2 wks than they have in 6 years.

What you just said could bite you in the ass as well. You do realize that he hasn't coached 1 game yet at MSU and you are making it sound like he's the next coming of Bo. I think a giant heaping of simma don nah is in order.

I've been pretty lucky lately to come across some nice inside information. I've got more today and it involves Elite 11 Quarterback Keith Nichol of Lowell, Michigan.

As many of you know, Nichol is one of the nation's finest quarterbacks. He committed early to Michigan State. After a poor MSU season, USC and Oklahoma came a calling. Nichol decided to decommit and go with Oklahoma. Nichol's insider reasoning was MSU's poor season and the ability to start from Day 1 at OU.

Well, Nichol seriously injured his arm/elbow on his throwing arm just recently. He is trying to keep the injury a secret. His classmates and some of his closest friends do not even know about the injury. He wears it in a sling when he is not around others and he's trying to keep the injury a secret from OU.

Nichol is very worried about the injury and the seriousness of the situation. He doesn't know whether or not he'll be ready at the start of next year. He currently is working with a baseball pitching coach after school trying to gain his arm strength back and regain the motion in his arm. This could effect his stance with OU especially with Mustain rumors flying around.

Just thought this would interest some here.
Bullshit...This is total bullshit.

What you just said could bite you in the ass as well. You do realize that he hasn't coached 1 game yet at MSU and you are making it sound like he's the next coming of Bo. I think a giant heaping of simma don nah is in order.

Here is one of my quotes in the recruiting thread:


DrTre11 wrote:You don't have to tame my excitement, I understand the situation. We are long away from even Dantonio's first game. I'm not flying off the handle, but I'll take the excitement when I can get it.

I've repeatedly stated that we are so far from even MD's first game, but I am excited about what he's doing. I don't think simma is in order.

I'm absolutley, positively SURE that Nichol will be able to hide this injury from Bob Stoops for the next four years.

Dr Tre:
Why did your cousin give you the details "quietly"?
Was he afraid that Bob Stoops may have been listening?
Why am I whispering?

Dr. Tre wrote: "They also spoke about keeping it quiet"

I have to ask since you're a highly respected high school coach why you would post this? I think its cool when you get invited down to East Lansing and report back because its great to read, but I honestly think this is a no-no in the world of coaching ethics. I understand that you want to share the info, but put yourself in Keith's shoes and tell me what you'd do. Also, put yourself in your dad's shoes or Tom Izzo's shoes..........not lecturing you Tre, but I think if you could do it over you wouldn't post it in a public forum, but instead save it for the boys next week.

Dr. Tre wrote: "They also spoke about keeping it quiet"

I have to ask since you're a highly respected high school coach why you would post this? I think its cool when you get invited down to East Lansing and report back because its great to read, but I honestly think this is a no-no in the world of coaching ethics. I understand that you want to share the info, but put yourself in Keith's shoes and tell me what you'd do. Also, put yourself in your dad's shoes or Tom Izzo's shoes..........not lecturing you Tre, but I think if you could do it over you wouldn't post it in a public forum, but instead save it for the boys next week.

I am not a football coach. I didn't get this information through coaching. I have nothing to do with HS football, coaching football, Nichol, Lowell, etc. I don't see your connection.

Had I come acrossed this info through another coach or as a result of coaching connections, I wouldn't have posted it. Posting information that I gained while sitting at a Christmas party talking to relatives has nothing to do with my career.

I don't see your connection at all.

Imagine this:
Dr Tre is winding up his towel, and
SNAP!
He whaps some other guy in the ass, and then says:
"Keith Nichol has his arm in a sling. He tore his rotator cuff flinging pizza's at Little Caesar! He's DONE! He can't even throw a fit, let alone a pass!"
"YYEEEEEOOOOWWW! What the FUCK did you do that for? Are you some kind of asshole?"
"No man, I just had a big secret! SANNNNNAAAP!"
"YEEEEOOOOWW! GODDDAMMIT! Stop snapping me with your towel! Who the fuck is Keith Nichol??!"
"He's the big quarterback who is going to Oklahoma! BUT, if you tell anybody that his arm fell off and his veterninarian, Dr Vinny Boom Bots sewed it back on, and he's hiding it from the Oklahoma coaches, I'll SNNNNAAAAAP you with this towel again!"
"YEEEEEOOOOOWWWW! Goddammit! I may not be able to have children now you F***&&#&^# GOd &#&^#*&%!!!"

just wanted some more proof...that is all I needed homie...I am sure you understand where I am coming from. I know if I just said "i dont believe you" I wouldnt get anything

http://www.footballhaven.org/testforum/showthread.php?p=7471#post7471

Isn't your cousin going to be pretty pissed when every oklahoma message board is talking about this in about 3 weeks? Why would you turn around and post this on here after being specifically asked to keep it quiet?

Im not going to doubt your story,......He either must be hiding this real well or its the same ol internet "rumor".....Since im new,ill give you the benifit of the doubt,unlike you did to me in another thread

I know that if I'm Dantonio, I know the kid has a heart for Sparty. He's been wanting to lead them into 5th or 6th place in the Big 10 for his entire life.

You might not be able to discuss anything in a serious manner whatsoever, (hey, message boards need all kinds) but oh my god that's funny.

Sounds to me like Dantonio is floating this one. He's hoping Bob Stoops calls Nichol up and says something about it, calls him a liar, a sneak, and the next thing you know:
BAM! Nichol is a Sparty.
I definitely smell a rat.
[smilie=reporter.gi:
Au Contraire Goshbootz. Dantonio has taken the tack of "I'm concentrating on peeps that want to be Spartans." When Nichol canceled his official visit to East Lansing the weekend after getting back from "Hooterville, Ok" Dantonio thanked him for calling and congratulated Nichol for picking up the phone himself to say "thanks but no thanks". Dantonio has moved on as evidenced by the shoe leather worn out the last two weeks in his home state O-HI-O.
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Of course there are diehards on the Rivals board that are all, "Well Keith's lil' bro' is gonna' be the QB next fall in Lowell. The family is close. How will the parents see both play?"......Hell are you kidding me? Stoops will have "Oilguy's" Lear all gassed up and ready to swoop down on that cornfield near the Nichol house for the "door to door". No tip neccessary..........Then this is my favorite....."But Keith has had a longtime relationship with his local squeeze???". .....Really? Haven't we seen that movie before? Each and every one of us with the "love of my life AT FIFTEEN" happy horseschmitt. I'm thinking hey, "there's girls in Oklahoma too!!!" Who knew?
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Dantonio has moved on. Time for Spartanfan to do the same.

Hip dig it!:
Are you doubting that Keith has found TRUE LOVE in the cornfields of Lowell?
She just may be "The One"! Wouldn't that be romantic? AND, what if, in the end, Nichol just can't pull himself away from the homecoming queen and play in Oklahoma?
On another note, Dantonio has moved on. He knows this scene, has probably seen it played out a million times. Hell, in today's day and age, dantonio is recruiting kids who are well on their way to making their own rendition of "Eight is Enough".

As long as they don't out like that little shit with the bangs Dantonio will be allright.

Isn't your cousin going to be pretty pissed when every oklahoma message board is talking about this in about 3 weeks? Why would you turn around and post this on here after being specifically asked to keep it quiet?

My cous didn't tell me to keep it quiet, he said Nichol is trying to keep it quiet. He didn't care if we discussed it figuring it will all come out in time.

I'm going to take Vinny's side on this and say that, at the very least, the IMPLICATION of silence was clear.
Nichol could have gone to Oklahoma, and when he got to the field for the first day of practice, slipped on something and pretended to hurt his arm then and there.
Butnow, the cat is out of the bag, and Stoops is probably sending a private jet to Fayetteville, Arkansas loaded with cash and jewlery as we speak.

I'm going to take Vinny's side on this and say that, at the very least, the IMPLICATION of silence was clear.
Nichol could have gone to Oklahoma, and when he got to the field for the first day of practice, slipped on something and pretended to hurt his arm then and there.
Butnow, the cat is out of the bag, and Stoops is probably sending a private jet to Fayetteville, Arkansas loaded with cash and jewlery as we speak.

I could care less if Nichol wants his injury quiet. My cous had no problem telling me about it and didn't care who I told.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.

You were the one who hurt him weren't you Tre? You've already shown us you have a connection to the kid through your cousin. You were pissed about his decision to go to OU. You wanted to help your new coach look good and you wanted another scoop.

Means, motive, opportunity brother. Where were you Sept. 4th? [smilie=reporter.gi:

Well, seriously now: This is one of the most important decisions a kid can make, and we're all up in arms because he had a little confusion over it, and is making a choice that he feels best about.
We think nothing of a coach who leaves school A in the middle of a friggin' contract to take another job, so why should Nichol be held to a higher standard, especially at his age?

You were the one who hurt him weren't you Tre? You've already shown us you have a connection to the kid through your cousin. You were pissed about his decision to go to OU. You wanted to help your new coach look good and you wanted another scoop.

Means, motive, opportunity brother. Where were you Sept. 4th? [smilie=reporter.gi:

haha, you got me!!

Well, seriously now: This is one of the most important decisions a kid can make, and we're all up in arms because he had a little confusion over it, and is making a choice that he feels best about.
We think nothing of a coach who leaves school A in the middle of a friggin' contract to take another job, so why should Nichol be held to a higher standard, especially at his age?

I don't disagree at all. Considering how MSU's program looked prior to the Dantonio hire, I understand why he might change his mind. However, there are several recruits that committed to Boston College that are thinking about decommitting, but they stated that they will wait to do so until they talk to the new coach. They feel that they committed to the school and they feel it is the right thing to do, at least give the coach the chance.

I might have done the same thing as Nichol. I have no problem with it or him at all. But, don't tell me I should keep his injury a secret for him and claim that I'm doing something wrong. I'm just talking sports and sharing info that I came acrossed.

I don't have a problem with you discussing Nichol's alleged injury, by the way.
I'm poking fun because that's what I do. The TALK about sports has become as big as sports itself. And most of the time, the TALK seems to be bullshit. Now, I'm not implying that your source is full of crap or that you are, it's just out there, and it's a target.
I mean, seriously, you are talking to a cousin who know's Nichol's aunt who met Nichol's paperboy, and on and on. And then you talk about "credibility".

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You think maybe someone from Oklahoma was poking around here this morning?

Maybe we should change the NCAA forum to "Dr.Tre's Smoking Gun".

Damn, as the other mod for this forum I feel a huge sense of guilt now. I'm failing to meet my "breaking news" quota. I need to call up some of my theater contacts and find out if any top recruits are gay or something.

Jethro:
My sources tell me that Ryan Mallett sometimes daydreams during geometry class.
Put that out there, sit back, and let the fun begin!

Looks like this story is taking off too. All it would take would probably be a link on the OU rivals board and we'd be up to 10,000 or so.

One thing I did forget to mention when looking over my original post was the sling that Nichol was wearing last weekend. He was hanging out, couldn't move the arm, and had it in a sling. Pretty minor detail, but it would be interesting if anyone from Lowell got on here to verify the sling. From what I heard though, he only wears it when he can.

You know what blows my mind about Tres breaking news stories on here? (Tre no offense at all just making a point) In todays world we are freaking out about what 17 yr old kids do. 17!! (maybe 18) It really freaks me out to know that I too am sitting here debating whats going through a kids mind. The only thing going through my mind at that age were drugs and titties, and now Im caring about what someone at that same age is thinking. I wont even begin to talk about how different things were in my mind at that age compared to now, but its literally north and south. Its a crazy world we live in.

You know what blows my mind about Tres breaking news stories on here? (Tre no offense at all just making a point) In todays world we are freaking out about what 17 yr old kids do. 17!! (maybe 18) It really freaks me out to know that I too am sitting here debating whats going through a kids mind. The only thing going through my mind at that age were drugs and titties, and now Im caring about what someone at that same age is thinking. I wont even begin to talk about how different things were in my mind at that age compared to now, but its literally north and south. Its a crazy world we live in.

Totally agree. It's amazing how big sports are and how big they are getting at an early age. But, I understand it too. If you are a die hard fan, you want to know what is ahead. The best way to know what is ahead is following the recruiting trail. It's nuts though, but I love every second of it. haha

I just noticed that the post between #12 and #13 in this thread was self deleted by Tre.

There was some pretty juicy stuff in there Tre, so I understand if you had second thoughts, but is there any way that you can re-post or edit that thread with the stuff that you regret taken out?

Lots of solid info went "poof".

I think the insider info is ok for the first story about Dar Tucker but this is kind of taken it too far. Its almost as if you're snitching on a 17 year old.

I think the insider info is ok for the first story about Dar Tucker but this is kind of taken it too far. Its almost as if you're snitching on a 17 year old.

We all know what happens to snitches.

http://www.celebopedia.com/anthony/images/carmelo_anthony.jpg

Hmm, odd this kid gets hurt, and you, who has this great source, doesn't bother to ask him, how he hurt it. I think that would be the first thing you would ask. Also, if he really wants to stay home, wouldn't this injury be the perfect excuse? Why would he "hide" it from the OU coaches? That would also indicate a lack of character and class. I don't believe this kid is lacking in either one of those areas. Just accept the fact he's going to be a Sooner and stop fabricating this crap. Come on man, the best player in the state of Michigan gets hurt, and you don't even bother to ask him how??? Give me a break.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.


He made that commitment when he was 15 years old. And since that time MSU has stunk up the place, and fired there coach. Shit happens. He's got a tremendous chance to start at Oklahoma, a top 5 program. You my friend are an ass. Also, please tell us all how he hurt his arm? Or did you forget to ask that question? The question that everyone on Earth, with the exception of you apparently, would have asked.

I wouldn't care. I'd care if he was hurt. He fell off his bike. There.

I'll go with "he hurt his arm 'helping a sheep over the fence' in preparation for playing in Oklahoma".

It was an act of devotion towards OU.

I was reading, following discussion, then Glenn posted that pic of Carmelo, and the only thing I learned out of this thread is don't snitch.

I like that: Helping a sheep over the fence.
I'd make fun of the Sooners, saying they have another in a long line of sore armed quarterbacks who can't throw the ball downfield more than 7 yards.
But then again, they did pretty well with Josh Heupel and Jason White.
I think I'll just stick with the sheep idea that Glenn posted.

Yea, it's much better to have a guy like Smoker, who can throw the ball 90 yards, but couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if he was standing inside of it. I'll take our sorry old week arm QB's and drop off 11, 12 and 13 win seasons, you guys can keep your head cases like Smoker and Burris, and your 6 win seasons.

cccsdad, do you have a daughter who plays volleyball for MSU?

[Edit: I'm guessing no from that last comment[smilie=uneasy.gif]]

, but couldn't hit the broad side of a barn if he was standing inside of it.

I remember when I used to burn people with that in 5th grade.

As fans of your state's agriculural college, and connoisseurs of the ancient science of husbandry, you should know that it is the partisans of Oklahoma A&M who assist the sheep in my home state. The university I attended for about eight years or so, on the other hand, is no doubt considered the prissy tea-sip school where electric lights and indoor plumbing have weakened the pale, four-eyed geeks like me who no longer even know who the top rodeo cowboys are. We were either born wrong or somewhere lost the dreams proper to our state.

You also should realize that people who achieve oil wealth typically move to the palatial cities of the plain (Texas), depriving us of the resources that Boone Pickens has been pouring into the state school in Stillwater. (He made his fortune by hostile takeovers of corporations whose assets he would then sell off. I'm afraid for OSU's offensive line. I don't know where they'll be by next year.) Were we the corrupt institution you imply there would certainly be several dead Pac-10 officials today. We are not known for equanimity in the sufferance of insult or injury.

The proper items with which to reproach the state of Oklahoma are (1) our booming methamphetamine industry, (2) mobile home parks - but remember, in a tornado ALL homes are mobile homes, (3) our United States Senator who recently headed the science committee and characterized global warming as a massive hoax by self-serving scientists (or did he say sciencetits?) bent on world domination, and (4) the marvelous variety of evangelical religions which give the local culture that sense of an endless stream of clowns coming out of that little car.

I hope I have edified you. As for Keith Nichol, he really isn't counted on for another year at least. But there are still only three total QBs on campus and so many car dealerships anxious to hire them.

^See, there's a good sport.

Thanks for the post.

Hmm, odd this kid gets hurt, and you, who has this great source, doesn't bother to ask him, how he hurt it. I think that would be the first thing you would ask. Also, if he really wants to stay home, wouldn't this injury be the perfect excuse? Why would he "hide" it from the OU coaches? That would also indicate a lack of character and class. I don't believe this kid is lacking in either one of those areas. Just accept the fact he's going to be a Sooner and stop fabricating this crap. Come on man, the best player in the state of Michigan gets hurt, and you don't even bother to ask him how??? Give me a break.

You are obviously a Sooner fan that is pissed off by my story. First thing first, you are in Oklahoma dude! I actually live in Michigan. Don't tell me my story is fabricated. I didn't ask him how he hurt it because I didn't directly talk to him. I posted my entire source and how I came acrossed the information earlier for Muhme and then deleted it once he saw it.

BTW, if you are going to come here and talk garbage, come informed. Nichol is NOT the best player in the state. Joseph Barksdale and Ronald Johnson are both ranked ahead of him.

If you could read, you'd see that I never said he wanted to stay home. Where did you get that from? He's most likely hiding it because he wants to attend OU and he doesn't want to lose his scholarship. Take off your blinders and get informed before you come questioning me.

This story is 100% true, I'll guarantee that. I'd put my house on it because it came from Nichols mouth.

Glenn:
Man, it SUCKS when a guy beats you to the punch with every joke about himself.
BUT, he did forget tow:
The old "Oklahoma is full of steers and queers..."
AND:
Cow tipping
No wonder it took him eight years to get through college.

PS:
I will agree that the religious buffoons have given alot of us some great material for quite some time, but unfortunately they are giving more than a few young men a sore backside AND holding our government hostage (until recently! YAAAY!)

You are obviously a Sooner fan that is pissed off by my story. First thing first, you are in Oklahoma dude! I actually live in Michigan. Don't tell me my story is fabricated. I didn't ask him how he hurt it because I didn't directly talk to him. I posted my entire source and how I came acrossed the information earlier for Muhme and then deleted it once he saw it.

BTW, if you are going to come here and talk garbage, come informed. Nichol is NOT the best player in the state. Joseph Barksdale and Ronald Johnson are both ranked ahead of him.

If you could read, you'd see that I never said he wanted to stay home. Where did you get that from? He's most likely hiding it because he wants to attend OU and he doesn't want to lose his scholarship. Take off your blinders and get informed before you come questioning me.

This story is 100% true, I'll guarantee that. I'd put my house on it because it came from Nichols mouth.

I asked why you didn't bother to ask your SOURCE, how Nichol hurt his arm. That struck me as odd as it should anyone with any common sense. The natural question to ask after hearing "hey, I've heard Keith Nichol hurt his arm" is, "really, how did he hurt it?"

He's the top rated QB in Michigan, and I think the No. 5 player over all, so I stand corrected on that issue. You have a bone to pick with this kid because he turned his back on your pathetic Spartans and decided to go to a real football school.

Hell, he may be wearing a sling, he may have thrown his arm out tossing around the pigskin and is just giving it a little rest. That doesn't mean it's injured or that he's trying to "hide" it from Oklahoma. You said he "seriously injured his throwing arm". You are telling me your source told you that and you didin't bother to ask when, where or how? I'm not buying it. You're a bitter MSU fan that has decided to bash this kid and question his character now that he's no longer going to MSU. Let me get this straight, he's "seriously injured his throwing arm" and is attempting to keep this information from the Oklahoma coaches, right? So, he's going to enroll in Jan at OU and show up with his arm hanging down to the ground and unable to work out or throw with it? Yea, that's what I'd do, I'd lie to the OU coaching staff, and just show up and hope once I arrived they'd just say, "oh what the hell".

I would think the better route to take would be to call the OU coaches and say, "coach I've hurt my arm, I've ******* to it and it will take ******* to rehab it"
Then if they still want him great. Or he could "hide it" show up on campus enroll, then get told to take a hike since he kept this info from the OU coaches, thus losing a year of his eligibility, and then try to find another school that would take a chance on this lying con man. Yeah, right.

This story is 100% true, I'll guarantee that. I'd put my house on it because it came from Nichols mouth.


That's odd, you said, you did not talk directly to Nichol. I think what you meant to say was this came from my sources mouth, who claimed he heard it directly from Nichols mouth. Yea, that's it, Nichols in an effort to keep this hush, hush, has decided to shoot his mouth off about it, to your "source".

So you have NO first hand information, you have hearsay, right? Well, guess what, my source told me that Nichol told him, he's not injured, and too prove it Nichol threw 200 passes and did 50 pull ups, and 50 push ups.

So, the dilema now becomes, who's hearsay should everyone believe, your's or mine?

Word on the street is, also, that Stoops is a "druggie", and Nichol is just looking for a way out of his committment.

You are obviously a Sooner fan that is pissed off by my story. First thing first, you are in Oklahoma dude! I actually live in Michigan. Don't tell me my story is fabricated. I didn't ask him how he hurt it because I didn't directly talk to him. I posted my entire source and how I came acrossed the information earlier for Muhme and then deleted it once he saw it.

BTW, if you are going to come here and talk garbage, come informed. Nichol is NOT the best player in the state. Joseph Barksdale and Ronald Johnson are both ranked ahead of him.

If you could read, you'd see that I never said he wanted to stay home. Where did you get that from? He's most likely hiding it because he wants to attend OU and he doesn't want to lose his scholarship. Take off your blinders and get informed before you come questioning me.

This story is 100% true, I'll guarantee that. I'd put my house on it because it came from Nichols mouth.
Because you heard Nichol say it, right?[smilie=reporter.gi: Ohhh so you DIDN'T hear it come from the horses mouth....what exactly did you hear? Oops we can't count on it being legit because you've already proven that you make shit up to get a response. The fact that you think we're stupid enough to buy your story speaks volumes of your intellect. I apologize to everyone else for wasting their time ,as I did with this thread.

The handle "DrTreIsaLiar" gives credence to the old saying that "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
Now, back to Oklahoma with you, and try to clean up Stoops's drug problems, the dirty program, and figue out how to beat Texas!

The handle "DrTreIsaLiar" gives credence to the old saying that "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
Now, back to Oklahoma with you, and try to clean up Stoops's drug problems, the dirty program, and figue out how to beat Texas!


Drug problem? Not sure about that one, maybe you should do a littl back ground research on one of your former QB's. Figure out how to beat Texas? Hmmm, guess you've been in a coma the last 6 years. Hey If I was stuck in that toilet of a state, I'd opt for the coma option as well.

Did I miss something or has Texas NOT smoked your asses for the last two years?
Or, do you live in "Magic Sooner Fairy Land", where you still think you beat Oregon and have won the last 50 national championships?

lol...get em zip.

LOL wow, look where this thread has gone. cccsdad and DrTreIsaLiar sure got their panties in a bunch over this. This is way more entertaining than the Dar Tucker thread.

I love how these Sooners fans come along to defend the kid but can't offer anything tangible about his status.

Before you try to debunk a theory or rumour, have some evidence, or at least wear a clean wifebeater.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5976/trailer20trash20colognegm3.jpg

Did I miss something or has Texas NOT smoked your asses for the last two years?
Or, do you live in "Magic Sooner Fairy Land", where you still think you beat Oregon and have won the last 50 national championships?

Nope, just letting you know that we have whipped their ass 5 of the last 7 years.

No, we did not beat Oregon, we got screwed, but shit happens.

No, we've only won 7 in the last 50 years which is more than than all the D-1 schools in Michigan combined. Or any other D-1 school over the same time frame.



I love how these Sooners fans come along to defend the kid but can't offer anything tangible about his status.

Before you try to debunk a theory or rumour, have some evidence, or at least wear a clean wifebeater.

I'm sorry, but just when did heresay become "tangible"?


Okay moron, let's use your logic, prove to everyone on this board that you've never had sex with a dog. Go ahead, prove it, offer something "tangible" as proof. Go ahead, come on, well......................... The point is you cant.
No, I can not prove Nichol isn't hurt, anymore than you can prove you aren't humping K-9's in your spare time. So what's your point? Ass clown!!

Also, why should I have to "defend" him? Because I choose not to believe a rumor from a guy I don't know from Adam. A guy that claims he has this great source who told him that Nichol has "seriously" injured his throwing arm, and then doesn't even follow up with a "what happened?".
If he's injured, so what, I was wrong, but I think I'll wait on "tangible" proof, before I believe it.

If he's injured, so what, I was wrong, but I think I'll wait on "tangible" proof, before I believe it.
So because he is missing a piece of information, you are using that as the basis to completely debunk what he is saying?

Where is the logic in that?

Here you go.

I have never had sex with a dog. Now prove I am a liar.

See my point?

Your assertion that Tre is lying or has incorrect info cannot be countered by any better information on your part. Screaming "Liar Liar" doesn't accomplish much.

Look, we're all well aware that bestiality is part of the Oklahoma culture. But it has no plce in the discussion of the damaged goods Stoops has been cleverly duped into signing.
And congratulations on all that history, but too bad it is usually followed by three years of probation.
Oh, you silly Sooners! Just can't get over reliving the good old days of paying players, drugs, rapes, machine guns at frat houses, and Switzer in the hot tub with a couple of lesbos.

I don't care what anyone says...I LOVE ZIP GOSHBOOTS...

I love you too, Jickboy!
I think my Christmas Night Singathon is gaining steam!!!

Zip Goshboots is the new TK

Is that a good thing?
Or are they still searching for the body?

Were we the corrupt institution you imply there would certainly be several dead Pac-10 officials today.

Are they STILL bitching about that? Jesus Christ.

Cullison:
FACT: The guy who made the call will, in the proverbial sense, "Never work in this town again. He has "retired".
FACT: Oklahoma "won" the Big 12 championship, beating Nebraska with PAUL THOMPSON at quarterback.
FACT: Despite T Boone Pickens deep pockets, Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State this year.
FACT: We don't KNOW if those other three officials or their families are still alive.
FACT: Despite the MOUNTAIN of evidence that suggested they existed, we have NEVER found "WMD's" in Iraq. Some of the soldiers over there are from OKLAHOMA.
FACT: John F Kennedy was killed in DALLAS, which is near OKLAHOMA.
FACT: On December 7, 1941, the Japanes bombed Pearl Harbor. One of the ships lost was the "OKLAHOMA".
I could go on and on, but your state is dirty, and it doesn;t take a genius to figure out that maybe, just maybe, we need to put a fence around Oklahoma instead of a wall between the USA and Mexico.

So because he is missing a piece of information, you are using that as the basis to completely debunk what he is saying?

Where is the logic in that?

Here you go.

I have never had sex with a dog. Now prove I am a liar.

See my point?

Your assertion that Tre is lying or has incorrect info cannot be countered by any better information on your part. Screaming "Liar Liar" doesn't accomplish much.

So, your logic is we should believe anything we here until someone proves it otherwise? That was my whole point with the dog thing. Anyone can come on here and say anything they want, that doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make it false. But I think the logical thing to do is to wait for some type of "tangible" proof before we all just assume it's the truth. As I said, I can't prove it's not true and this guy can't prove it is true.

But for some odd reason, the majority of you in here seem to want to believe something bad about a kid, just becuase he is no longer going to MSU.

You have to admit it is odd, that this guy gets this info from this great source regarding a "serious" injury, and he never bothers to ask, how it happened etc.

He's had plenty of time to call his source back and get additional info, and has chosen not to. I find that odd, especially when his credibility is being challenged.

Look, we're all well aware that bestiality is part of the Oklahoma culture. But it has no plce in the discussion of the damaged goods Stoops has been cleverly duped into signing.
And congratulations on all that history, but too bad it is usually followed by three years of probation.
Oh, you silly Sooners! Just can't get over reliving the good old days of paying players, drugs, rapes, machine guns at frat houses, and Switzer in the hot tub with a couple of lesbos.

Check your facts dip shit, OU was NEVER put on probation for paying anyone, that was an alligation by a player (Hartlee Dykes), who also claimed that ILL, Michigan, Texas and Ok.State offered him money as well. But OU was not placed on probation for paying anyone and if you want to read the NCAA report, you want find anything about payment to recruites. Now Switzer did get in trouble for buying an airline ticket for a player so he could fly home to his mothers funeral....Bastard.

I love idiots like you that have none of the facts, outside of what they listen to on CNN or ESPN etc, yet think they are so educated and well enformed.

The problem with these internet rumors is that no one is held accountable. One of two things will happen, if this is true, the guy that started all this will say "I told you so". If it's not true, he will say "errrr, well,,, I was just telling you what I was told".

The problem with these internet rumors is that no one is held accountable. One of two things will happen, if this is true, the guy that started all this will say "I told you so". If it's not true, he will say "errrr, well,,, I was just telling you what I was told".


Sounds like the print media.....or ESPN Insider.

Sounds like the print media.....or ESPN Insider.

LOL...Your giving ESPN too much credit

The Oklahoma Way:
Bud Wilkinson: Probation
Chuck Fairbanks: Probation
Barry Switzer: Probation (and hot tub with lesbos)
Bob Stoops: Has to step in when players are paid for jobs that don't exist (and a "druggie")
Bob Stoops: Mysterious committment from an MSU lifer right after MSU hires a solid coach with national championship experience.
Referees: Disappearing and "retiring" after controversial calls against Oklahoma
Frank Boggs: Promising journalist, busts story of Oklahoma cheating, ends up writing for small paper in Colorado after receiving death threats.
Need I say more?
Maybe I shouldn't, I might be KILLED!

So, your logic is we should believe anything we here until someone proves it otherwise? That was my whole point with the dog thing. Anyone can come on here and say anything they want, that doesn't make it true, and it doesn't make it false. But I think the logical thing to do is to wait for some type of "tangible" proof before we all just assume it's the truth. As I said, I can't prove it's not true and this guy can't prove it is true.

But for some odd reason, the majority of you in here seem to want to believe something bad about a kid, just becuase he is no longer going to MSU.

You have to admit it is odd, that this guy gets this info from this great source regarding a "serious" injury, and he never bothers to ask, how it happened etc.

He's had plenty of time to call his source back and get additional info, and has chosen not to. I find that odd, especially when his credibility is being challenged.

If you don't believe what Tre has to say, fine. But fuck you for having a problem when other people who "know" him take him for his word. He's got 4 or 5 of his real life best friends that post here regularly, and while I don't "know" Tre, I'm 100% confident that he wouldn't pull stuff out of his ass and ruin any kind of "internet rep" that he has here with our site/community.

We can't vouch for the quality of Tre's sources, we can't say for sure that the info he personally heard or that was relayed to him is 100% the way things went down (sometimes things get lost in translation), but I think you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE that is a regular here that thinks he's just making this stuff up.

So there's a little more background for you.

Welcome to WTFDetroit.com, enjoy your stay.

But fuck you for having a problem when other people who "know" him take him for his word.

I have no problem with other people taking him at his word, I have a problem when he assaults the kids character because he chanded his mind. I also find it odd, upon hearing this news, he didn't ask any questions. When? Where? How?

You all can choose to believe what you want, I have no problem with that. I choose to ask for something more concrete than, "my cousin told me that he was told by Nichol". In closing let me say this, if he is "seriously" injured, as reported by Dr. Tre. I will bow down and offer my apology. However, if this turns out to be false, I doubt if Dr. Tre will "man up" and apologize to me for calling me out, and I know, none of you will.

Keith is comming to Oklahoma, and all your sour grapes wont change that. I do find it a bit ironic, that most of the replys have been dedecated to insluting Oklahoma and it's people, yet a Michigan kid, who grew up there, and was a life long MSU fan, took one trip to Oklahoma and decided to go to school there.

"if you want to see the ugliest 105K people in the world gathered in one spot, go to a Michigan home football game"

From a friend of mine that is a Michigan grad. I laugh everytime he tells me that.

Well, the "fuck you" might have been a bit strong, so sorry about that. Something about your condescending tone must have made me reach for that.

We make jokes here while we discuss sports topics, that's what we do. I don't think anyone here has a problem with Oklahoma.

Now Indiana...

In fairness to you, there were more details that Tre originally posted that he has since removed (post between #12 and #13) that may have made you come around to believing him a bit more.

"if you want to see the ugliest 105K people in the world gathered in one spot, go to a Michigan home football game"

From a friend of mine that is a Michigan grad. I laugh everytime he tells me that.

When did Michigan come into the picture? Now starting to slam on Michigan?

The whole thing makes no sense. As I said, Keith is to enroll at OU in Jan. If he's "seriously" injured his arm, it's not going to be better by that time. So let's say for agruments sake, he is really injured, and as suggested, he's hiding it from the OU coaches.

So what happens next? He shows up in Norman, he enrolls in class, the coaches find out that his arm is injured and he's kept it from them. So,now they have a injured, QB, that has lyied to them. So basically the guy never gets a chance to prove himself because the coaches have no faith in a guy that is willing to lie to them.

The problem I have is with all this "he's tyring to hide it from the OU coaches" crap. It is of no advantage to him to do this.

If he is up front with OU, they can elect to have him come in, rehab, and compete for a starting job, or they can say, "no thanks" in which case he can go to MSU if they will still take him.

No matter how you slice it, lying and trying to hide this does not benefit this kid, and that's the problem I have with this RUMOR.

Anyway, let's just agree to leave the insults on the bench and stick to the subject at hand.

Yeah, I can't understand a guy with a college scholarship on the line being worried that an injury might effect his opportunities and hiding it from the people who value his playing ability.

Yeah, I can't understand a guy with a college scholarship on the line being worried that an injury might effect his opportunities and hiding it from the people who value his playing ability.

Yes, you're right it makes much more sense to lie about it, show up on campus in the next 3 weeks, and just hope to hell the coaches and staff are too stupid to realize you are injured. Because as a true freshman QB trying to earn a starting QB job for one of the top football programs in the country, the first thing you want to do is ruin your credibility with the coaches and players on your team, by trying to deceive them. That's the way you make them all trust in your ability to be the teams leader at QB.

Or you could just be honest, and hope for the best. That way you have shown that you have character, and the ability to lead by example.

Yes, you're right it makes much more sense to lie about it, show up on campus in the next 3 weeks, and just hope to hell the coaches and staff are too stupid to realize you are injured. Because as a true freshman QB trying to earn a starting QB job for one of the top football programs in the country, the first thing you want to do is ruin your credibility with the coaches and players on your team, by trying to deceive them. That's the way you make them all trust in your ability to be the teams leader at QB.

Or you could just be honest, and hope for the best. That way you have shown that you have character, and the ability to lead by example.

This is why 17 year olds never lie to cops. Always thinking about shit way down the line.

This is why 17 year olds never lie to cops. Always thinking about shit way down the line.

Not even going to justify that stupid comment with a response.

Not even going to justify that stupid comment with a response.


You did.

I love how these Sooners fans come along to defend the kid but can't offer anything tangible about his status.

Before you try to debunk a theory or rumour, have some evidence, or at least wear a clean wifebeater.

http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/5976/trailer20trash20colognegm3.jpg
Just like the bumbfock that made the post without any sign of truth? Riiight. Go build a ford, buy a 12'er and go kick the dog.

You did.

Nope, I didn't respond to what he said, just stated I was going to justify the comment by responding to it. But what the hell, here goes.

Apples to Oranges, you don't lie to the cops and then turn yourslef in. You don't lie to OU about an injury and then enorll there 3 weeks later and hope to hell they wont find out. You usually lie if you think it will benefit you. Lying to OU does not benefit him, if he's "seriouisly" injured, they will find out as soon as he arrives on campus. He will be given a physical since he will be on a athletic scholarship.

So even if he's brain dead he would realize he cant hide this and get away with it. So his options would be to lie and to involve his entire family and highschool coaching staff in this lie, in hopes that he can get to OU, pass the physical and keep it under wraps.

Or he can just say "hey, shit happens, I injured myself and am going to rehab and be ready to compete in the spring". If OU still wants him, fine, if not, fine.

The handle "DrTreIsaLiar" gives credence to the old saying that "Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery".
Now, back to Oklahoma with you, and try to clean up Stoops's drug problems, the dirty program, and figue out how to beat Texas!
Says the msu fan? How was Smokers rehab? Stoops' dirty program? I'm sorry, but did I miss something? When did Stoops get in trouble for a dirty program? From a fan of a team that isn't even bowl eligible, talking smack about winning games is pretty damn weak. Hows this? Back to that cold shithole known as michigan, try and achieve a winning record, then we can discuss bowls. Learn to beat texas, what a smacktard.

LOL at calling Zip an MSU fan.

Nope, I didn't respond to what he said, just stated I was going to justify the comment by responding to it. But what the hell, here goes.

Oh I see, so responding doesn't count as responding if you only respond with a comment.

Nope, I didn't respond to what he said, just stated I was going to justify the comment by responding to it. But what the hell, here goes.


So even if he's brain dead he would realize he cant hide this and get away with it. So his options would be to lie and to involve his entire family and highschool coaching staff in this lie, in hopes that he can get to OU, pass the physical and keep it under wraps.

.

*true story alert*
Highschool kids are braindead. Last week I had kid steal from me (I am a lunch lady) and he got sent to the principal. He had the food in his pocket. The principal asked him if he stole, he said no. He had the kid empty his pockets, asked him where he got the chips and drink. Kid said they were his. Principal showed him that they were marked for sale in our cafeteria. Kid insists that he bought them last week, took them home, now brought them back. Kid gets rest of the day in house detention.

Principal leaves to tell me. Returns to his office to supervise student. Can't find his cell phone. Frustrated, he calls it. THE KID'S POCKET RINGS! Kid insists it's not the teachers phone. Teacher takes it from him, finds it's his, kid says "you don't have any cameras here, you can't prove I took it!"

Now Keith isn't a deliquent. I am a coworker with his mom's best friend, I met him at a summer party, real down to earth kid given all the hype. Couldn't believe I knew who he was. Pilliar of the community type. Very happy to be going to OK, been a dream of his...rah rah. But he's a kid. And kids still believe in magic. He believes, in his heart, that if he doesn't say anything, maybe this will pass (and maybe it will). But if he does say something it surely won't. Kids lie because they've been conditioned by the few times its gotten them out of trouble, and rarely does it lead to more in their world. This situation may be different and grander than most, but to apply your adult logic to today's youth is misguided.

All these OU fans crack me up. All of you Sooners are so worked up over something you know NOTHING about. Most of you probably didn't even know who Keith Nichol was prior to him committing.

My story is the truth and I provided proof earlier. I don't like giving away sources therefore I deleted it once the people I care about here on the site were able to read.

Notice how none of the regulars are questioning the validity? For you OU doubters, let's just say it was as close as from the horses mouth as you can get. No, it wasn't a he said, she said, passed on rumor.

If you don't believe what Tre has to say, fine. But fuck you for having a problem when other people who "know" him take him for his word. He's got 4 or 5 of his real life best friends that post here regularly, and while I don't "know" Tre, I'm 100% confident that he wouldn't pull stuff out of his ass and ruin any kind of "internet rep" that he has here with our site/community.

We can't vouch for the quality of Tre's sources, we can't say for sure that the info he personally heard or that was relayed to him is 100% the way things went down (sometimes things get lost in translation), but I think you'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE that is a regular here that thinks he's just making this stuff up.

So there's a little more background for you.

Welcome to WTFDetroit.com, enjoy your stay.

Thanks bro, I appreciate the backing. And you are right, I have more important things to do than just make up random stories.

I gotta admit, I'm loving the name though "Treisaliar" haha good stuff

I don't care what anyone says...I LOVE ZIP GOSHBOOTS...

I hate to admit it, but Zip is winning me over a little too with his performance here.

Welcome to the dark side. That guy has cracked me up since day one.

Thanks for the "props" guys, but remember: It's amarathon, not a sprint. Stck around, I'm sure I'll piss everyone off again.
I wonder why these Oklahomans are not answering my very serious charges of a Sooner football program RIFE with scandal?
EVERY coach who has won down there is tarnished by probation (Stoops will get his day in the sun, don't worry).
AND, imagine being poor Frank Boggs. He goes from being an up and coming journalist who has a conscience, and exposes all the cheating going on in Norman to being banished to the foothills of Colorado.
He's writing about one of the nations premier football programs one day, and the next day he's writing for the Blustering Belch Gazette about frog jumping championships and cucumber growing contests!
AND, then there are referee's who are disappearing and "retiring" after the Sooners blow a big lead to Oregon.
Who's your athletic director down there? Sammy "The Bull" Gravano?
And don't even TRY calling me a Michigan State fan, pal, or the gloves are REALLY gonna come off.

All these OU fans crack me up. All of you Sooners are so worked up over something you know NOTHING about. Most of you probably didn't even know who Keith Nichol was prior to him committing.

My story is the truth and I provided proof earlier. I don't like giving away sources therefore I deleted it once the people I care about here on the site were able to read.

Notice how none of the regulars are questioning the validity? For you OU doubters, let's just say it was as close as from the horses mouth as you can get. No, it wasn't a he said, she said, passed on rumor.


The only thing we know for sure is you've posted something you've heard from a source of yours. You've offered no proof and the one shred of proof you claimed you offered, you quickly deleted.
As I've said, I question this whole thing because no one, including you, have offered one logical explaination as to why, Keith, his family, and everyone else in his inner circle would risk everything he's worked for in an effort to cover up a serious injury, that as soon as he arrives on campus in Norman, will be found out via a physical which all scholarship athletes must undergo.

Again, if you are correct I offer my apology, if not, will you offer yours?

Who the hell needs to apologize to you?
This isn;t the "Sissy Forum". Grow a set of balls.

no one "needs" to apologize to me. Can you show me where I said someone "needs" to apologize to me? Death to the Queen.

First, you guys criticize Michigan, and now you are advocating the violent disposal of the Queen? I think they have suffered enough already with the untimely death of Freddie Mercury.
Speaking of Michigan, the coach of the Wolverines has a stalker. There is a man out there in love with him.
I'll bet Stoops can't make that claim.

Just who is your cousin? I'm assuming that since you seem to have no problem publicly throwing out Keith's name associated with this misinformation, you won't mind owning up to your source. The reason I ask is that if this is something he's hiding from his classmates and close friends then how did your cousin come across such a highly secretive bit of dirt. I am a resident of Lowell and have close ties to the football program. I also have a child at the high school and as far as I could find out, there's NO TRUTH to this rumor. Whatever your motivation, I feel that it is nothing short of slander to be running down one of Lowell's finest young men without proof of some sort, and I find it extremely offensive. THE truth will be revealed soon enough and if my guess is right, you'll have accomplished nothing more than getting a few new people to register for this forum. WTF Dr Tre?

Just who is your cousin? I'm assuming that since you seem to have no problem publicly throwing out Keith's name associated with this misinformation, you won't mind owning up to your source. The reason I ask is that if this is something he's hiding from his classmates and close friends then how did your cousin come across such a highly secretive bit of dirt. I am a resident of Lowell and have close ties to the football program. I also have a child at the high school and as far as I could find out, there's NO TRUTH to this rumor. Whatever your motivation, I feel that it is nothing short of slander to be running down one of Lowell's finest young men without proof of some sort, and I find it extremely offensive. THE truth will be revealed soon enough and if my guess is right, you'll have accomplished nothing more than getting a few new people to register for this forum. WTF Dr Tre?

Amen, it is obvious by commetns made by Dr. Tre, he is not happy that Keith switched is committment from MSU ot OU. See below


I could care less if Nichol wants his injury quiet. My cous had no problem telling me about it and didn't care who I told.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.


And as a result has decided to spread this rumor in an attempt to make it appear as if Keith is some sort of shady character that's trying to pull a fast one. This crap that Keith isn't being honest is just an attempt to make the kid look bad.

He has no proof and has offered NONE. First he said this came straight from the kids mouth, then he said, he heard it from his (Dr. Tres) cousin. To date he still has not addressed the issue, why he didn't bother to ask when, where, and how, Keith received this injury.

Again, there is no reason for Keith, his parents, his coaches and all his inner circle to lie. It will be found out the day he reports to school and is required to take a physical as all scholarship athletes are required to do. If this was true, he would have no chance, ever of playing at OU, because he will have destroyed the trust of this coaching staff. I call total BS on this story and defy anyone to provide any tangible proof, out side of hearsay.

Tre can't because he has none.

Yes Tre, we have someone else here who has unnamed connections and sources and this person says your stuff is BS. Now while this person hasn't seen fit to inform us of who he/she is or how he/she knows whatever it is they know (or don't know, as they are claiming), they've asked you to let them know who it is told you your stuff on the grounds that "not telling isn't fair".

After all, its very unfair to talk publically about someone who's made a public declaration about their actions. It's even more unfair to keep private where you got your information from someone who's kept their identity a secret and claims not to be getting the same information from their own secrect sources of information.

BTW you overreacting freaks, who exactly is Tre supposedly making "Lowell's finest young man" look bad too? He's talking about it to people he talks to over the internet. He's not (to my knowledge) publishing papers or producing local news segments about it.

Yes Tre, we have someone else here who has unnamed connections and sources and this person says your stuff is BS. Now while this person hasn't seen fit to inform us of who he/she is or how he/she knows whatever it is they know (or don't know, as they are claiming), they've asked you to let them know who it is told you your stuff on the grounds that "not telling isn't fair".

After all, its very unfair to talk publically about someone who's made a public declaration about their actions. It's even more unfair to keep private where you got your information from someone who's kept their identity a secret and claims not to be getting the same information from their own secrect sources of information.

BTW you overreacting freaks, who exactly is Tre supposedly making "Lowell's finest young man" look bad too? He's talking about it to people he talks to over the internet. He's not (to my knowledge) publishing papers or producing local news segments about it.




You mean besides comming on to this site and telling everyone "this is 100% true" and that the kid is "not honest", ?

After all, its very unfair to talk publically about someone who's made a public declaration about their actions. It's even more unfair to keep private where you got your information from someone who's kept their identity a secret and claims not to be getting the same information from their own secrect sources of information.

I've gone cross-eyed

Yes, besides comming on to a site he frequents and talking about it to people he always talks to about sports. This isn't an SI article he's published. Its not even an official team website. Hell this is generally a Detroit Piston fan board. Its not like the guy is organizing marches with pickett signs disrupting Lowell football games to inform the public in general what he thinks about this kid. He's explained where he's gotten this info from as far as he's decided to explain it. You don't have to believe him but don't act like the guy is issuing press releases and has created a campaign to get no one to like this highschool kid who may or may not be OMG!!1 "not honest".

Look, I'm not the one coming on here spreading unsubstantiated rumors and naming names. I am however, calling out the good Dr Tre since it's his word and he's putting it out for the world to see and accusing Keith of lying and hiding something relatively serious. Fair or unfair, them's the facts.

There are many angles from which to examine the claim of an arm injury to Nichol and assign plausability to it.
First, that he HAS sustained an injury, but it is not terribly severe, and he hopes with therapy and time the injur can heal.
Now, you may ask: "Why, WHY is he hiding it?" The answer to that is simple: His future is at stake. He's a young man on the verge of realizing a lifelong dream of playing college football and then going on to the NFL and making MILLIONS of dollars. He has a family behind him who are supportive, and seeing his dreams about to be realized (and may have some ulterior motives of helping Keith to spend some of the money).
So the story is credible on a cursory level at first examination.
Secondly, and this is where the "Grassy Knoll" comes into play, is that possibly he was either coerced into or made a "knee jerk" decision himself to de committ to MSU and decide to go to Oklahoma, and is now having some form of "buyer's remorse". The "injury", real, or, let's just say, exagerrated, is not exactly revealed, but talked about, floated as a rumor, and then Stoops of Oklahoma will hear about it, call the kid and say, "Gee, no thanks. We've got Sam Bradford anyway".
Then, said athlete can enroll at Michigan State, fulfilling a lifelong dream, and everybody is happy.
I've got to go now, I think I hear Rod Serling calling me...

Here are a few links that reference Dr Tre's handiwork.

http://www.mlive.com/forums/hsfootballwest/index.ssf?artid=252365

http://www.soonerfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=85833

Yes Tre, we have someone else here who has unnamed connections and sources and this person says your stuff is BS. Now while this person hasn't seen fit to inform us of who he/she is or how he/she knows whatever it is they know (or don't know, as they are claiming), they've asked you to let them know who it is told you your stuff on the grounds that "not telling isn't fair".

After all, its very unfair to talk publically about someone who's made a public declaration about their actions. It's even more unfair to keep private where you got your information from someone who's kept their identity a secret and claims not to be getting the same information from their own secrect sources of information.

BTW you overreacting freaks, who exactly is Tre supposedly making "Lowell's finest young man" look bad too? He's talking about it to people he talks to over the internet. He's not (to my knowledge) publishing papers or producing local news segments about it.

Exactly! This is WTFDetroit.com, while I love this site, it is not a newspaper. I am not a journalist either. Unnamed person from Lowell, I don't know anything about your connections with the program. Maybe you know more than I. Unlike those from Oklahoma, I don't claim to know more than people closer to the source.

I am not attempting to make Keith look bad or anything like that. I excitedly followed Nichol since he was a sophmore, I've got nothing against him. I also stated earlier in this thread that I would have switched from MSU too. I didn't say he was a bad person or anything like that. I said that he had an injury and was keeping it quiet. You'd think I accused him of some major crime. Geez, get a grip.

I don't feel the need to share my source because you've given me no reason to. You came here and criticized me, claimed that I lied, and posted ignorant garbage. Had you come acrossed in a slightly different manner, I might have private messaged you something with insight.

I'll say this, my info came directly from someone close to Nichol. Someone who has seen with his own eyes Nichol in a sling. Someone who has spoke with him about the pitching coach he's working with for rehab. If you know otherwise, go ahead and post it. I'm not claiming to be some message board know all. I posted information that I received.

Keep one thing in mind, the kid is an Elite 11 quarterback. Even with a serious injury, his career is most likely fine with todays medicine. I'm not trying to bring down anyone, just talking sports. Relax.

I never accused you of lying or posting ignorant garbage. What I did was call you out and criticise you for slandering a fine young man and accuse him of lying and hiding this "secret" from OU. Any objective reader would instinctively know that you beat the kid over the head with a sledgehammer with your unsubstantiated accusations and that is what I take offense to. We'll soon see if there's any truth to your cousin's story but if it turns out to be false, a public apology is in order and your cousin needs his ass kicked.

I am not attempting to make Keith look bad or anything like that. I excitedly followed Nichol since he was a sophmore, I've got nothing against him. I also stated earlier in this thread that I would have switched from MSU too. I didn't say he was a bad person or anything like that. I said that he had an injury and was keeping it quiet. You'd think I accused him of some major crime. Geez, get a grip.

This is a joke, right?

Who was it that said this???


I could care less if Nichol wants his injury quiet. My cous had no problem telling me about it and didn't care who I told.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.


The part about decommiting, sums up this whole thing. You're pissed he decommited, otherwise you would have never brought that up. You've been exposed.

Zip is good people. The DetNews forums used to have a lot of talent in all it's boards until the newspaper IT staff instituted a slash and burn policy to moderating.

There are many angles from which to examine the claim of an arm injury to Nichol and assign plausability to it.
First, that he HAS sustained an injury, but it is not terribly severe, and he hopes with therapy and time the injur can heal.
Now, you may ask: "Why, WHY is he hiding it?" The answer to that is simple: His future is at stake. He's a young man on the verge of realizing a lifelong dream of playing college football and then going on to the NFL and making MILLIONS of dollars. He has a family behind him who are supportive, and seeing his dreams about to be realized (and may have some ulterior motives of helping Keith to spend some of the money).
So the story is credible on a cursory level at first examination.
Secondly, and this is where the "Grassy Knoll" comes into play, is that possibly he was either coerced into or made a "knee jerk" decision himself to de committ to MSU and decide to go to Oklahoma, and is now having some form of "buyer's remorse". The "injury", real, or, let's just say, exagerrated, is not exactly revealed, but talked about, floated as a rumor, and then Stoops of Oklahoma will hear about it, call the kid and say, "Gee, no thanks. We've got Sam Bradford anyway".
Then, said athlete can enroll at Michigan State, fulfilling a lifelong dream, and everybody is happy.
I've got to go now, I think I hear Rod Serling calling me...

Hmmm, or he could just say, ya know, I think, I'll go to MSU. Also, it was also reported that this is a "serious injury to his throwing arm". So which is it, do you belive Tre or not? If you do, your theroy is out the window. If you do not, then why the hell are you arguing with me?

So which is it, do you belive Tre or not? If you do, your theroy is out the window. If you do not, then why the hell are you arguing with me?

If he does disagree with Tre it doesnt mean he agrees with you. To say it is not raining doesnt exactly mean its sunny, it could be snowing or hailing or cloudy. A lot of your posts have serious flaws in their logic and I finally had to put a couple cents in.

cccsdad,

The motives of Dr Tre may or may not be suspect, I'm not going to get into that, but you obviously want this to be just a rumor that some kid made up to get back at somebody. It's not. I have known Tre since we were kids and he is not just going to make stuff up for fun or out of spite. The topic is simple, this is a piece of news that he heard and he is relaying that news to people he talks sports with all the time. The power of these message boards is something that we don't even realize. Although this and the Dar Tucker thread are good lessons. My message to you is this, you came on here to check the story and you got it....you can question it or not believe it but don't come in here and call Tre a liar cuz it's something you don't want to hear.

and oh yeah.....Hook 'Em!

cccsdad,

The motives of Dr Tre may or may not be suspect, I'm not going to get into that, but you obviously want this to be just a rumor that some kid made up to get back at somebody. It's not. I have known Tre since we were kids and he is not just going to make stuff up for fun or out of spite. The topic is simple, this is a piece of news that he heard and he is relaying that news to people he talks sports with all the time. The power of these message boards is something that we don't even realize. Although this and the Dar Tucker thread are good lessons. My message to you is this, you came on here to check the story and you got it....you can question it or not believe it but don't come in here and call Tre a liar cuz it's something you don't want to hear.

and oh yeah.....Hook 'Em!

Wow, didn't know you were a big Texas fan. How about them 9-3, going to the Alamo Bowl, Horns.

Now on to Nichols, did you call this "news"? Hmmm, okay here's some more "news" for you, to date there has been not one shred of proof offered by Tre, that this is legit, and before you throw out that stupid, "okay, you prove he isn't hurt" argument, let me state this, prior to Tre starting this thread there was no indication by anyone that Nichol was injured, now does that mean that he can never be injured? No. Ya, know, I can't prove the sun will rise tomorrow, but what I can do is look at all the factors and make the assumption, that it will. Same thing here, no, I can not say with 100% certainty that Keith Nichol isn't injured, what I can say is this, until I see some sort of legit report, I'm not just going to blindly accept it as reality. Especially when the guy reporting it has said.


I could care less if Nichol wants his injury quiet. My cous had no problem telling me about it and didn't care who I told.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.

Sour grapes.

cccs,

I think everyone gets the point that you think Nichol is fine and this story is garbage. I don't think anyone here is trying to tell you how to think or what to believe. Tre laid out what he heard, now it's up to everyone here to process that info and decide for themselves if they think the story is legit or not.

The fact that Tre has a track record here and none of our regulars are calling him a liar or are smelling BS should at least get you wondering I would think.

No matter how many times you post that you don't believe Tre's account, there are still going to be people here that trust what he has to say, based on years of reading his posts, and knowing the guy in real life (in some cases).

So while you are welcome to think that we're all suckers for believing that Tre's smoke leads to fire, there is no burden of proof required here, the only thing on the line at this site is Tre's rep, and the rep of our site, it's not life or death.

If Nichol is not really injured, then none of this will effect him anyways, right? If there is no truth to it, he'll be able to debunk it without a problem.

But the longer this goes on...

You have no way of knowing this, but people at this site are pretty good at sniffing out BS. In fact, our members have had inside info/tips and even broken a handful of stories across several sports over the past few years, and I don't remember a single "hoax". Take that for what it is worth.

cccs,

I think everyone gets the point that you think Nichol is fine and this story is garbage. I don't think anyone here is trying to tell you how to think or what to believe. Tre laid out what he heard, now it's up to everyone here to process that info and decide for themselves if they think the story is legit or not.

No matter how many times you post that you don't believe Tre's account, there are still going to be people here that trust what he has to say, based on years of reading his posts, and knowing the guy in real life.

So while you are welcome to think that we're all suckers for believing that Tre's smoke leads to fire, there is no burden of proof required here, the only thing on the line at this site is Tre's rep, it's not life or death.

If Nichol is not really injured, then none of this will effect him anyways, right? If there is no truth to it, he'll be able to debunk it without a problem.

But the loger this goes on...

You have no way of knowing this, but people at this site are pretty good at sniffing out BS. In fact, our members have broken a handful of stories across several sports over the past few years, and I don't remember a single "hoax". Take that for what it is worth.

Agreed, and the same thing goes for those that continue to insist it is true, yes? I do disagree however with the logic or lack there of, which states.


there is no burden of proof required here.

I think if you are going to state something and say that it is 100% true, you've placed that burden of proof on yourself. Now, had he said, "this is what I've heard, I' don't know if it's true or not, so take it for what it's worth". That's one thing, but he said "IT'S 100% TRUE" My point is, he doesn't KNOW that, so why is he stating it, and if he does know that, why doesn't he have any proof???

To accuse the kid and his family of being liars, is a pretty serious thing, and I just think before you do something like that, you better be willing to back up your statement with something a bit stronger than, "my cousin told me". It's called hearsay, and it's not worth a damn with out something to back it up.

Well, I've never seen Nichols play football, so I'm out of this thread. Everything I've seen has been hearsay, for all I know the kid is a golfer and all you guys are lying.

Well, I've never seen Nichols play football, so I'm out of this thread. Everything I've seen has been hearsay, for all I know the kid is a golfer and all you guys are lying.

http://oklahoma.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=1&pr_key=41235

There, now we can put your silly logic to bed.

That sir, is hearsay. Who knows who put that together, maybe they got that info from their cousin. Until you PERSONALLY see something, it means nothing. I'm getting a bit tired of you guys coming on here when you know nothing for sure.

UberAlles:
Man, right you are!
With that format, no threads to wade through, man, that place was a blast!
But, someone there especially singled me out, and I believe the moderators compromised themselves by establishing relationships with posters.
THAT is one thing I respect BIG TIME about this board:
Dr Tre and Jethro have disagreed with me, and we have gone at it, but they haven't censored me.
THAT is called "Manning UP".

UberAlles:
Man, right you are!
With that format, no threads to wade through, man, that place was a blast!
But, someone there especially singled me out, and I believe the moderators compromised themselves by establishing relationships with posters.
THAT is one thing I respect BIG TIME about this board:
Dr Tre and Jethro have disagreed with me, and we have gone at it, but they haven't censored me.
THAT is called "Manning UP".


Too bad Jethro won't read your post since he put you on his ignore list. [smilie=jefffoster.:

I'm kidding about that (or am I?)

I think Jethro was kidding. He's probably been getting ready for the Christmas Night Singathon.
CCCSDAD, won't you join us?
By the way, "Boomer Sooner" is my fourth favorite college fight song!

That sir, is hearsay. Who knows who put that together, maybe they got that info from their cousin. Until you PERSONALLY see something, it means nothing. I'm getting a bit tired of you guys coming on here when you know nothing for sure.


I agree, I think slavery is hearsay.

Well, you get a ball gag and I'll make it very real for you.

Well, you get a ball gag and I'll make it very real for you.


I think Martin Luther King was hearsay, I mean I never actually saw him in person.

Then according to you sir, he is hearsay. Please don't talk about him and his family.

Um, cccsdad, you sir, live in the SOUTH, In OKLAHOMA. At the end of the "Trail of Tears".
I think I'd watch the "slavery" and Martin Luther King analogies.

Um, cccsdad, you sir, live in the SOUTH, In OKLAHOMA. At the end of the "Trail of Tears".
I think I'd watch the "slavery" and Martin Luther King analogies.

I hear MLK didn't tip well.....just hearsay though.

Here's what my horoscope had to say for today.

"Some gossip that is blatantly untrue could reach your ears today. When you think about it, you'll see that what you're hearing defies all logic and is actually rather ludicrous. Nonetheless, the person who reports it to you could be so dynamic and persuasive that you might actually believe it for a little while. Remember to check out the facts in these situations. That way, you'll stay grounded in reality rather than caught up in a fantasy."

Given the facts, along with the fact that Nichol played the second half of his junior year with a bad ankle that was never confirmed publicly untill after the season...I'd have to say that the shoulder injury in question is a definite maybe. My instincts tell me that something minor could be going on, or not, and if it were serious, Stoops would be one of the first to know.

I still think Tre's cousin needs his ass kicked for this. Especially if he's a Lowell insider.

Come on now, shadjack, why would you want to kiss Tre's cousin's ass? I mean, he did a favor by giving the WTF Detroit board an exclusive report, but you really don;t need to kiss his ass for it. Just thank him, that would probably be enough.
Are you a perpetual ass kisser? Were you the wimp in school who always brought the teacher an apple? Are you the guy who always says "Yes boss, that's right!" and "Right you are Boss, I'm an idiot!" "I agree 100% Boss! Um, wait, no I don't! That's right Boss, that was a bad idea. Who's the moron who thought of it? Let's fire that guy! IT WAS ME?!". Honestly shadjack, there's no need to be such an ass kisser. You are selling your soul, all for "The Man", and they'll never appreciate it.

Given the facts, along with the fact that Nichol played the second half of his junior year with a bad ankle that was never confirmed publicly untill after the season...I'd have to say that the shoulder injury in question is a definite maybe. My instincts tell me that something minor could be going on, or not, and if it were serious, Stoops would be one of the first to know.

I still think Tre's cousin needs his ass kicked for this. Especially if he's a Lowell insider.

If you read between the lines here, I think Pat Sajak the Lowell insider may have just spilled the beans. Who said anything about a "shoulder" injury?

Tre's report said "arm/elbow".

Check mate! [smilie=heatsmiley2:


edit- Man, that felt good. It's sorta like that episode of Brady Bunch where that guy was trying to extort $ from Mr. Brady by pretending that he had a neck injury from a car accident. Mike throws his briefcase on the floor in the courtroom and the faker turns his neck and is exposed as a fraud. Yep, this is so similar to that, it's eerie.

Glenn:
You get the Perry Mason Award for the day: You have solved the case.
I missed that little tidbit, which is not surprising considering I have the attention to detail of a retarded four month old fruitfly.
Final Conclusions:
Nichol IS injured.
It's the SHOULDER, not the elbow or the coccyx.
Stoops is a "druggie"
Oklahoma is on perpetual probation
shadjack is an ass kisser
Frank Boggs should sue Oklahoma for $100,000,000.00
Dr Tre deserves the Pulitzer, if not the Nobel Prize
I sure would like to have been in that hot tub with the two lesbos

*Note: Glenn, I am amazed at the Brady Bunch thing. That shows some serious talent.

Here's an exclusive photo that I just came across.

I will not reveal my sources, but it rhymes with Mahoo! Smimage Fearch

http://www.djortho.co.uk/product_images/donjoy_shoulder_stabiliser150.jpg

I also have known Tre my whole life, and while I don't give a flying fuck about Nichol, about Oklahoma, about MSU, about Cow shit, I don't believe he is just fabricating a story for the hell of it. At least I hope he wouldn't do something like that...but with that said, I neither agree that he's injured, or disagree that he's injured. I just had a great 10 minutes reading this thread where people get so fucking caught up about shit that in the grand scheme, doesn't mean dick. Tre has broken two stories, claims to have legit sources, and I don't have the time or the effort to try to find reasons why they wouldn't be true. All this thread is doing is getting our magnificent site more looks from outsiders, and nothing bad can come from this. In closing, arm injury or not, you just spent your ENTIRE FUCKING DAY cruising our site and debating with some of WTF's finest...thank you kind sir.

I can't do things like that with the computer.
However, in the short time that picture has been posted by Glenn, I put my patented "Zip Goshboots High Octane Brain" to work, and super imposed the picture of Keith Nichol from the home page of this forurm (in my mind's eye) onto Glenns picture, and FOUND AN EXACT MATCH!
I have no doubt that the picture in Glenn's post is indeed and in fact Keith Nichol.

I wonder if cccsdad is finally convinced that Tre is legit now that Lowell football insider, shadjak, has corroborated that it is indeed a shoulder injury of some kind?

I can't do things like that with the computer.
However, in the short time that picture has been posted by Glenn, I put my patented "Zip Goshboots High Octane Brain" to work, and super imposed the picture of Keith Nichol from the home page of this forurm (in my mind's eye) onto Glenns picture, and FOUND AN EXACT MATCH!
I have no doubt that the picture in Glenn's post is indeed and in fact Keith Nichol.

Pure brilliance!! (Secondary spec to Glenn of course)

Glenn:
I think you have nailed it. Let me show you why:
Here's part of the exact quote from shadjack: "the shoulder injury"
Now, here is how I would say it (assuming I know nothing of the situation): "the shoulder injury".
I think the difference is clear. I say it in a very different way, because I know NOTHING of the situation. However, the striking difference in the way shadjack says it gives it away. He knows. He's well aware that Nichol's arm is hanging by a thread, and that Michigan State has escaped a close call in not having to give a scholarship to a player who is on death's door.
Meanwhile, back in Norman, Stoops and company are dancing with joy, thinking they have just added the final piece of the puzzle to a possible national championship team for next year, and they have no idea that they have just rolled "snake eyes".

You know less now than you did before. Now here's something you can take to the bank. I spoke with the trainer this morning and she assures me that Keith has been working out in the weightroom three times a week and that Dr Tre's story is pure, unadultrated hogwash. Bielieve it or not. I was also told that on this, the last schoolday for Keith, they're throwing a little going away party and giving out Sooner shirts to all. Eat your hearts out Sparties! My short encounter with WTFDetroit has been entertaining if nothing else but I will always know it as so many other internet forums, a cesspool of rumour and slander and fertile ground for fabricating BS. No Respect here for Tre and I'm flat out calling you what you are...a rumor monger and a liar. As for my true identity, you can just call me Mulder, because "the truth is out there".

I wonder if cccsdad is finally convinced that Tre is legit now that Lowell football insider, shadjak, has corroborated that it is indeed a shoulder injury of some kind?

If I'm not mistaken,I think Tre said "serious injury to his throwing arm" and something along the line of, "he won't be ready to play next year". Also, wise ass, if you will re-read my posts you will see that I said, maybe he's wearing a sling becasuse he threw his arm out, and is wanting to give it a rest. Throwing your arm out, and having a serious injury are not one and the same.

Also, check Shadjak, last post, before you pop off.

Well, congratulations, Mulder, and you get a new pocket protector for your diligence! You have established yourself as a first rate "Internet Intel Reporter".
Membership in the club gains you a lifetime membership to the X Files fan club, a free DVD of out takes from the show, and a talking toy Spock doll that, when you pull its penis, says things like, "Live long and prosper", and "That is not logical".

You know less now than you did before. Now here's something you can take to the bank. I spoke with the trainer this morning and she assures me that Keith has been working out in the weightroom three times a week and that Dr Tre's story is pure, unadultrated hogwash. Bielieve it or not. I was also told that on this, the last schoolday for Keith, they're throwing a little going away party and giving out Sooner shirts to all. Eat your hearts out Sparties! My short encounter with WTFDetroit has been entertaining if nothing else but I will always know it as so many other internet forums, a cesspool of rumour and slander and fertile ground for fabricating BS. No Respect here for Tre and I'm flat out calling you what you are...a rumor monger and a liar. As for my true identity, you can just call me Mulder, because "the truth is out there".

Thanks for the info, but you actually may have violated Keith Nichols' rights by going to the trainer and asking about his personal health. If the trainer actually commented or disclosed information on his health, she should probably lose her job or at least face a reprimand of some sort.

If an employee of the school violated Keith's privacy by disclosing information about his health, that is a very serious offense. One that you are now a part of.

If you are telling the truth, that is. And as we have learned in this thread, if we didn't actually see it with out own eyes, it probably didn't happen.

Where do I collect my goods? Anyways, I'm glad I at least took the time to check this out before my last rant, albeit time wasted. Nichol is still a high school kid, very young for a senior, and has a lot to bear due to his success. I'm hoping he can deal with the off the field pressures as well as he does on the field.

http://noise.typepad.com/hey_joe/2006/12/leave_keith_nic.html

http://www.fightingwithavim.com/2006/12/08/joe-rexrode-wants-you-to-stop-pestering-keith-nichol/

I doubt that saying that the story is a lie, he's working out in the weightroom and they're throwing a party for him is any kind of violation. In any case, take me to court for making the truth be known. I gotta get some work done today......I'm out.

We all know you can't have a party with an injured arm. Nor can you continue to "work out" by riding a stationary bike, use a treadmill, or even rehab an injury.

Hey Mods..............Is there anyway we can please remove Keith Nicol's ugly mug from the front of our website? We have so many other interesting things we could put back up there. Jeremy Bonderman just signed a huge deal, the Pistons are in 1st place in the Eastern Conference, the Red Wings are playing great and the Lions are possibly about to get the #1 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft. Any picture besides the kids weird face would be great..........no disrespect to him or to this thread!

We all know you can't have a party with an injured arm. Nor can you continue to "work out" by riding a stationary bike, use a treadmill, or even rehab an injury.


Keep hanging on Glenn, afterall, this story has just GOT to be true because Tre said it was. I stand by my initial response, without proof either way, I'm going to assume Keith is fine. But I guess before I form my final opinion, I'd better consult with Tre's cousin.

I stand by my initial response, without proof either way, I'm going to assume Keith is fine.

As you've said, approximately 28 times now.

Damn, I thought the new shoulder information was going to sway you, too.

As you've said, approximately 28 times now.

Damn, I thought the new shoulder information was going to sway you, too.


28??? Hmm, the same number of times you've came to the defense of your "man crush" Dr. Tre

Hey Mods..............Is there anyway we can please remove Keith Nicol's ugly mug from the front of our website? We have so many other interesting things we could put back up there. Jeremy Bonderman just signed a huge deal, the Pistons are in 1st place in the Eastern Conference, the Red Wings are playing great and the Lions are possibly about to get the #1 pick in the 2007 NFL Draft. Any picture besides the kids weird face would be great..........no disrespect to him or to this thread!


The lions are about to get the #1 pick. I'm not sure I'd be real happy if my team was in a position to get the #1 pick. Doesn't that pretty much mean the Lions suck?

28??? Hmm, the same number of times you've came to the defense of your "man crush" Dr. Tre

Not really "the same", but your comment is duly noted.
http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=7897

We do have other threads, you know, why don't you take a look around the joint?

Not really "the same", but your comment is duly noted.
http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=7897

We do have other threads, you know, why don't you take a look around the joint?


Yes and I would invite you to stop responding to my posts if they are that bothersome to you. Have a Merry Christmas Glenn.

Thanks for the holiday greetings, same to you.

I wouldn't call you "bothersome", maybe "one dimensional" would be better. Just trying to find out if you've got anything else to offer.

Repeating something 30+ times doesn't make it any more compelling or true than saying it, maybe 4 or 5 times. It's only mildly annoying that you are trying to browbeat our readers into submission.

That said, I look forward to your next creative/insightful post, carry on.

You know less now than you did before. Now here's something you can take to the bank. I spoke with the trainer this morning and she assures me that Keith has been working out in the weightroom three times a week and that Dr Tre's story is pure, unadultrated hogwash. Bielieve it or not. I was also told that on this, the last schoolday for Keith, they're throwing a little going away party and giving out Sooner shirts to all. Eat your hearts out Sparties! My short encounter with WTFDetroit has been entertaining if nothing else but I will always know it as so many other internet forums, a cesspool of rumour and slander and fertile ground for fabricating BS. No Respect here for Tre and I'm flat out calling you what you are...a rumor monger and a liar. As for my true identity, you can just call me Mulder, because "the truth is out there".

You must have missed the heading on the front page that said Nichol HIDING injury. Probably wouldn't be telling the trainer about it if he wanted it a secret.

Once again, I hope he's not hurt, I hope somehow this was a misunderstanding. But, the story did indeed stem from what came out of Nichol's mouth.

cccsdad, it is apparant that you are addicted to this thread. There is a 55 post limit per day. Get a life.

[QUOTE=DrTre11]You must have missed the heading on the front page that said Nichol HIDING injury. Probably wouldn't be telling the trainer about it if he wanted it a secret.

Once again, I hope he's not hurt, I hope somehow this was a misunderstanding. But, the story did indeed stem from what came out of Nichol's mouth.

[COLO"]cccsdad, it is apparant that you are addicted to this thread. There is a 55 post limit per day. Get a life QUOTE]


Right I won't tell my trainer, instead I'll tell Dr Tre's big mouth cousin. Yep, makes perfect sense.


Me, get a life????? Excuse me pal, but you're the one that started this thread. You're the "well know, long time poster" here, check your post count, then tell me who needs to get a life.

[QUOTE=DrTre11]You must have missed the heading on the front page that said Nichol HIDING injury. Probably wouldn't be telling the trainer about it if he wanted it a secret.

Once again, I hope he's not hurt, I hope somehow this was a misunderstanding. But, the story did indeed stem from what came out of Nichol's mouth.

[COLO"]cccsdad, it is apparant that you are addicted to this thread. There is a 55 post limit per day. Get a life QUOTE]


Right I won't tell my trainer, instead I'll tell Dr Tre's big mouth cousin. Yep, makes perfect sense.


Me, get a life????? Excuse me pal, but you're the one that started this thread. You're the "well know, long time poster" here, check your post count, then tell me who needs to get a life.

My posts span over 2 years moron. And you seem to be slow. If a kid has a scholarship to a major University, he is probably not going to spread the word that he has a major injury. That might effect his scholarship offer. He might wait until papers are signed. You think he's going to tell the trainer?! Are you kidding? If it was major, I'm pretty sure he'd be seeing a specialist. I'll wait 5 seconds for your response, it is obvious you are spending your entire day on this thread.

dude you have 32 posts in 2 days IN THE SAME THREAD! And this is not even your own message board, and all of it over a kid's arm that may or may not be hurt......the get a life statement is warranted

Post count is an excellent measure of a man's worth.

You know ccc, now that I think about it, why don't you just stop posting. Everybody knows your opinion, what's the point of hanging here all day posting the same garbage. Most of us come here to post in several different threads, not obsess about one topic.

Post count is an excellent measure of a man's worth.

Lol... NICE!


(I've read every single one of those posts)

Tre is funny, he comes in here with all this, Nichol isn't telling anyone about this, except Tre's cousin. So Tre, tell us why your cousin would be the ONLY one Nichol is telling this to? Just what makes him so special?

Also to you other idots, I was responding to Tre's initial post, you asses are the ones that decided to jump in the fray. If you don't like my posts, put me on ignore.
Am I obsessed with this thread? Maybe. But no more than any of you pea heads who continue to respond to my every post.

Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTre11
I am not attempting to make Keith look bad or anything like that. I excitedly followed Nichol since he was a sophmore, I've got nothing against him. I also stated earlier in this thread that I would have switched from MSU too. I didn't say he was a bad person or anything like that. I said that he had an injury and was keeping it quiet. You'd think I accused him of some major crime. Geez, get a grip.


This is a joke, right?

Who was it that said this???


Quote:
Originally Posted by DrTre11
I could care less if Nichol wants his injury quiet. My cous had no problem telling me about it and didn't care who I told.

Nichol didn't show any sort of commitment to his word when he commited to State, so I could care less if he doesn't want his injury exposed. He's the one not being honest, so I have no reason to protect some kid who decommited and is now not being honest with a coach who is devoting alot of time and a scholarship to him.



The part about decommiting, sums up this whole thing. You're pissed he decommited, otherwise you would have never brought that up. You've been exposed.

Yet Diddy gets banned.

The part about decommiting, sums up this whole thing. You're pissed he decommited, otherwise you would have never brought that up. You've been exposed.

Exposed?

What you have exposed is the reason why Tre doesn't feel like he needs to keep this a secret to protect Nichol, numbnuts.

Nice detective work.

Exposed?

What you have exposed is the reason why Tre doesn't feel like he needs to keep this a secret to protect Nichol, numbnuts.

Nice detective work.

No I've exposed the reason why he's fabricated this BS. Also, if you want to re read Tre's posts, you will see numerous contradictions. On one hand he says he harbors no ill will towards this kid then he turns around and calls the kid out for decommiting. He states this came straight from Nichol himself, then says, he didn't talk to him, that it came from his (Tre's) cousin. Dipshit!!

*sigh

Perhaps breaking news is a bad idea. It seems to attract people with minds like brick walls.

Hey CCCSDad:

Why don't you go fuck yourself?

Thanks!!!

Anyone notice that cccsdad has more posts than any other user in this thread? Out of 178 posts, he has 35. There is no evidence he has even viewed another thread.

I just don't understand why anyone would try so hard to convince a bunch of people in Michigan that this was all made up.

Let's say it is. Have you proved anything? You made yourself look like an idiot to a bunch of people from Michigan that could care less about you or the football program you cheer for.

Let's say it's not. Who cares? Unless this injury is career ending, which NOTHING makes it sound like that's a strong possibility at this point, what does it matter? I certainly hope he wasn't your overwhelming favorite to start next year anyhow. Give him a year to learn the system, like any QB should really have as a redshirt, and all is fine the following year.

The story is about a cover-up. It's so meaningless to me that I rarely even read this thread. Because really, who cares? State wouldn't be using him next year and if he's not a Dantonio type of player it might not have ever worked out. Oklahoma has issues next year either way as they try to figure out their offense.

So the bottom line is you stand alone in the middle of a prarie pissed off that someone has a story 1,000 miles away. Redirect your anger at the fact that you have to replace a RB that hasn't been healthy enough to get you where you expected to be and stop trying to start irrelevant arguments. It's obvious that your interests are extremely limited, so hop on board with an Oklahoma message board and vent there. Bash me there for all I care. I'll never see it because I could care less. Go back to someplace where they bow to pictures of Barry Switzer three times each day and get your three-tooth logic the hell out of here. I hope an Indian pisses in the Red River and it ends up in your drinking water.

Jethro:
Well, that about sums it up, and wraps it up on that guy.
I'm done with him myself, he bores me.

*sigh

Make that two sighs.

And I'll second Vinny's sentiments as well.

I don't give the much talked about 2 dead flies about Keith Nichol.....unless he wants to re-up that is.

Hey CCCSDad:

Why don't you go fuck yourself?

Thanks!!!

Wow, Vinny knows how to use the F word. How proud he must be.

I actually hope cccsdad stays around after this whole thread has died down. It's always good to have another school represented around here.

(even though I completely disagree with him)

Perhaps breaking news is a bad idea. It seems to attract people with minds like brick walls.


Breaking news??? Wow, I thought this was a rumor, started by Tre, that to date, he's provided not one shred of proof to back it up. I've given him numerous opportunities to provide some proof, any proof. Instead he tells me to shut up, and go away.

Also, since none of you rocket scientists can figure it out, the only reason I'm posting on this thread is because it has to do with a recruit that is comming to Oklahoma. I could give a shit about anything else going on in the state of Michigan.

Also the reason I have so many posts, is because there are about 5 different posters responding to everything I say, so I am responding back. Come on, are you people in Michigan really this stupid?? I thought that was just a rumor.

I actually hope cccsdad stays around after this whole thread has died down. It's always good to have another school represented around here.

(even though I completely disagree with him)

Want to re-assess?

Nah. He entertains me. I think he would be a good mod for the terrordome.

He could have his own thread: "Take your shots at Oklahoma Fan"

I'd hit it.

Breaking news??? Wow, I thought this was a rumor, started by Tre, that to date, he's provided not one shred of proof to back it up. I've given him numerous opportunities to provide some proof, any proof. Instead he tells me to shut up, and go away.

Also, since none of you rocket scientists can figure it out, the only reason I'm posting on this thread is because it has to do with a recruit that is comming to Oklahoma. I could give a shit about anything else going on in the state of Michigan.

Also the reason I have so many posts, is because there are about 5 different posters responding to everything I say, so I am responding back. Come on, are you people in Michigan really this stupid?? I thought that was just a rumor.

I provided as much proof as I could. What do you want a picture? This is post 37 from you in the same thread. You are a joke and you're pathetic.

You should give two shits about sports in the state of Michigan because we are the best sports state in the country. In the last 10 years, we've provided NBA World Champions, Stanley Cup Champions, World Series Team, a NCAA Football National Champion, and a NCAA Basketball National Champion. Maybe you ought to start caring because we most definately offer much more to the sports world than your joke state.

I provided as much proof as I could. What do you want a picture? This is post 37 from you in the same thread. You are a joke and you're pathetic.

You should give two shits about sports in the state of Michigan because we are the best sports state in the country. In the last 10 years, we've provided NBA World Champions, Stanley Cup Champions, World Series Team, a NCAA Football National Champion, and a NCAA Basketball National Champion. Maybe you ought to start caring because we most definately offer much more to the sports world than your joke state.


I never said you didn't have succesfull sports teams in Michigan. I said I didn't give a shit about sports teams in Michigan. It has been asked why I continue to come on to this thread, and why I don't go to some of the other threads on this site, I was telling you why.

You still have NEVER told me or anyone else for that matter, why you never bothered to ask, when, where or how, Nichol was injured. Why do you keep side stepping that question?

I've enjoyed debating with you guys, have a Merry Chirstimas and a Happy New Years. See ya in 07. Boomer Sooner!!!

HOOOOOOOOK 'EM

I've got to agree with Motown. Hope the guy sticks around, maybe brings a couple of Sooners with him.
It'd be fun, guys from Michigan arguing with guys from Oklahoma is kind of like Shakespeare arguing with Rocky Balboa after Rock's been punched in the head for 15 rounds.

HOOOOOOOOK 'EM

Didn't realize you were a Horn fan????? I guess when you live in Saginaw, any port in a storm, huh..., by the way, what was MSU's record this year? When is the last time they were even a mild threat to win the Big10?
Yea loser keep shooting off your mouth about Texas beating Oklahoma, in the mean time we'll be playing in the Fiesta Bowl, and your sorry ass Spartans will be at home sitting on their asses wishing they were us.
The said thing is I absolutly love Izzo, and the MSU basketball program. I admire what they've accomplished, I like the way they play and the support they get from the MSU student body, but asses like you, make me want to rethink that.

The following is a picture of what you get when you cross a Jack Ass with a Dumb Ass. JickBoy34, do you have to try to look that retarded, or does it come natural to a dumb ass such as yourself?

http://myspace-687.vo.llnwd.net/01387/78/64/1387834687_m.jpg
HOOOOOOOOK 'EM

What the hell are you doing on My Space?
Pervert.
Don't deny it, ccc, you're finding yourself somewhat turned on by that picture.

Geez...didn't know I would send you into such a tizzy...I'm a UM fan, and was simply giving you shit for your 'boomer sooner' comment. Hahaha...you are a class act all the way.

http://ccn1.net/POTD6/texas-longhorns-national-champions/matthew-mcconaughey-hook-em-horns.jpg

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/images/2001_02/main_images/structure_images/proudtrads/hookem_300.jpg

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/02/images/20060214_p021406kh-0015-515h.jpg

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2006/01/images/20060105-1_p010506kh-0041jpg-515h.jpg

http://rightangleconsulting.com/blog/images/uploads/201061.jpg

http://cache.jalopnik.com/cars/hookem_horns.jpg

http://encyclopedia.quickseek.com/images/Hookemhorns.jpg

http://www.psych.wright.edu/IMAGES/BUTTONS/0095298-R1-002-00A.png

http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/12-05/disney5.jpg

Geez...didn't know I would send you into such a tizzy...I'm a UM fan, and was simply giving you shit for your 'boomer sooner' comment. Hahaha...you are a class act all the way.


You're a UM fan, that's odd, I could have sworn that Texas beat YOUR asses in the Rose Bowl. Now that is the same "hookem horns" Texas you now have wood for, isnt' it? Thank you sir may I have another.

You might want to worry about sniffing a victory over Ohio St. before you run your trap about OU vs UT. I think if you'll check rescent history, we've had alot more success against UT, than the Corn and Blue have had against THE OSU

Breaking news??? Wow, I thought this was a rumor, started by Tre, that to date, he's provided not one shred of proof to back it up. I've given him numerous opportunities to provide some proof, any proof. Instead he tells me to shut up, and go away.

Also, since none of you rocket scientists can figure it out, the only reason I'm posting on this thread is because it has to do with a recruit that is comming to Oklahoma. I could give a shit about anything else going on in the state of Michigan.

Also the reason I have so many posts, is because there are about 5 different posters responding to everything I say, so I am responding back. Come on, are you people in Michigan really this stupid?? I thought that was just a rumor.

Oh yeah I know that when I think maybe a geographical will "up" the I.Q. and improve the gene pool I'm always thinkin' "Yeah, honey! Oke-la-homa".

Oh yeah I know that when I think maybe a geographical will "up" the I.Q. and improve the gene pool I'm always thinkin' "Yeah, honey! Oke-la-homa".


Now that was a well written post.
Detroit, now that is a hot bed for higher education. I think I read somewhere, Ebonics is the official language for 65% of
Michigans population. By the way OU has more merit scholars per capa, than any other public University.

Oh my freaking gosh. Are you seriously going to pass judgement on the entire population of a state while committing multiple gramatical errors? Way to add legitimacy to your posts.

read, not reas
Michigan's, not Michigans
per capita, not per capa
No comma in the last sentence

Furthermore, making up statistics to make a sarcastic point is overused and overrated.

Q: What's the difference between a University of Michigan fan and a carp?
A: One is a bottom-feeding, scum sucker, and the other is a fish.

Q: How many University of Michigan fans does it take to screw in a light bulb?
A: One, but he gets 3 credits.

Q: Where was O.J. hiding right before the famous white Bronco chase?
A: On the University of Michigan campus. That's the last place you would find a football player.

Q: Why do they throw out a sack of manure at University of Michigan weddings?
A: To keep the flies off the bride.

Q: Why don't University of Michigan fans let their kids play in sand boxes?
A: Because cats keep covering them up.

A University of Michigan fan walks into a doctor's office and removes his hat to reveal a frog sitting on his head. The doctor asks, "How can I help you?" The frog replies, "I was wondering if you could help me get this wart off my butt."

Q: Did you hear about the University of Michigan fan who locked his keys in his car?
A: He couldn't get his family out.

Q: Why do University of Michigan fans keep their diplomas on their dashboards?
A: So they can park in handicap spaces.

Two University of Michigan fans were walking down the street when they came upon a dog lying on the sidewalk licking and cleaning his groin like dogs do. The first University of Michigan fan says to the second, "Boy, I wish I could do that." The second University of Michigan fan replies, "Yeah, me too. But I wouldn't try it." The first University of Michigan fan asks, "Why not?" The second University of Michigan fan replies, "Because I'm afraid the dog might bite me."

Q: What do you call a good looking girl on the University of Michigan campus?
A: A visitor.

Q: Did you hear about the power outage at the University of Michigan library?
A: Forty students were stuck on the escalator for three hours.

Q: Did you hear about the fire in University of Michigan's football dorm that destroyed 20 books?
A: The real tragedy was that 15 hadn't been colored yet.

Q: Do you know why the University of Michigan football team should change its name to the "Opossums"?
A: Because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.

Q: Did you hear the story about the semi-truck carrying pigs that flipped over on the University of Michigan campus?
A: The officials had to check ID's before letting anyone back on board.

Q: What does the average University of Michigan student get on his SAT?
A: Drool.

Q: What do you get when you breed a groundhog and a University of Michigan?
A: Six more weeks of bad football.

Q: What should you do if you find three University of Michigan fans buried up to their neck in cement?
A: Get more cement.

General Schwarzkopf was walking through the desert during the Gulf War when he found a lamp on the ground. He picked it up, rubbed, and out came a genie. The genie said to the General, "I will grant you one wish." The General replied, "I wish that we will win this war. Here is a map of the desert and all the war parties. Please make us win the war." The genie responded, "I'm not that powerful of a genie. I cannot grant you that wish." "Well," the General responds, "then can you have University of Michigan win a bowl game this year?" After a moment, the genie says, "Let me see that map again."

Q: How do you make University of Michigan cookies?
A: Put them in a big Bowl and beat for 3 hours.

Q: What do you get when you cross a University of Michigan fan and a pig?
A: Nothing. There's some things that a pig will not do.

Q: How many University of Michigan freshman does it take to change a light bulb?
A: None, it's a sophomore course.


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Dumb Michigan Laws
A woman isn't allowed to cut her own hair without her husband's permission.
There is a 10 cent bounty for each rat's head brought into a town office.
It is legal for a robber to file a law suit, if he or she got hurt in your house.
You may not swear in front of women and children in the state of Michigan.
Any person over the age of 12 may have a license for a handgun as long as he/she has not been convicted of a felony.

Clawson
There is a law that makes it legal for a farmer to sleep with his pigs, cows, horses, goats, and chickens.

Detroit
Couples are banned from making love in an automobile unless the act takes place while the vehicle is parked on the couple's own property.
Willfully destroying your old radio is prohibited.
It is illegal for a man to scowl at his wife on Sunday.
Alligators may not be tied to fire hydrants.
It is illegal to let your pig run free in Detroit unless it has a ring in its nose. According to history and animal husbandry, it prevents them from "rooting" in the ground for their food.

Grand Haven
No person shall throw an abandoned hoop skirt into any street or on any sidewalk, under penalty of a five- dollar fine for each offense.

Harper Woods
It is illegal to paint sparrows to sell them as parakeets.

Kalamazoo
It is against the law to serenade your girlfriend.

Rochester
All bathing suits must have been inspected by the head of police.

Soo
Smoking while in bed is illegal.

Wayland
Anyone can keep their cow on Main Street downtown at a cost of 3 cents per day.

My ignore list just doubled in size. Amazing how I didn't even need one a few weeks ago.

Yet Diddy is banned.

I understand a new travel agency just opened up in Norman, Oklahoma, and the name of it is:
Trips to Clawson 'R Us.

I got around that "no swearing in front of children" law. I named my kids Dumbfuck and Goddammed Idiot.

I'll say one thing about you guys from Michigan, you have very thin skin. You can sure dish it out, but damn, your the biggest bunch of pussys I've ever seen, when someone gives it back to you. Relax boys, it's all in good fun. I realize you're pissed you couldn't get the job done against THE OSU, but it's okay, you have a real nice little team. You've got bat wings on your helmets (which by the way you stole from Princeton) not to mention, one of your primary colors is CORN. You should be proud.

Please, Please, Please tell me that is your actual picture. I have been sitting here for 45 minutes laughing hysterically. I would feel terrible if that wasn't you that I've been laughing at. It seriously is killing me right now looking at it...........It looks like your throat is taking a shit!!!

Please, Please, Please tell me that is your actual picture. I have been sitting here for 45 minutes laughing hysterically. I would feel terrible if that wasn't you that I've been laughing at. It seriously is killing me right now looking at it...........It looks like your throat is taking a shit!!!

I thought you guys might enjoy it. Welcome to the wonderful world of photoshop.

I've got five words for the guy who just edited the "Nebraska Vs Oklahoma Joke Book":
Gary Gibbs and John Blake.

I never said you didn't have succesfull sports teams in Michigan. I said I didn't give a shit about sports teams in Michigan. It has been asked why I continue to come on to this thread, and why I don't go to some of the other threads on this site, I was telling you why.

You still have NEVER told me or anyone else for that matter, why you never bothered to ask, when, where or how, Nichol was injured. Why do you keep side stepping that question?

This is DrTre. In regards to your last paragraph, you are OFFICIALLY A FUCKING RETARD. I posted here how I came acrossed the information. I didn't talk to him, so how was I supposed to ask him how he got injured. You live on this damn thread yet you can't fucking read the other posts. I've answered you several times and if you were here in time, you would know how I got my info and understand why nobody else is questioning me. Shut the fuck up and go away. I can't handle obsessed retarded posters who can't read. If you care so much, maybe you'd bother to find out how I got my info and why it is considered valid.

sigh, haha okay i needed to ge that out. back to normal now haha

I'll say one thing about you guys from Michigan, you have very thin skin. You can sure dish it out, but damn, your the biggest bunch of pussys I've ever seen, when someone gives it back to you. Relax boys, it's all in good fun. I realize you're pissed you couldn't get the job done against THE OSU, but it's okay, you have a real nice little team. You've got bat wings on your helmets (which by the way you stole from Princeton) not to mention, one of your primary colors is CORN. You should be proud.

Just a little history lesson for you, before you go off spouting out random tidbits of information that happen to be false.

Princeston started the Winged helmets, but the man who invented it, Mr. Fritz Crisler, came to coach at Michigan and brought the design with him. Princeston abandoned using the helmet until '98. So we didn't steal the helmet, we stole the coach.

Here's something to be proud of:
Longest current bowl game streak (32 straight years)
Longest current streak of non-losing seasons (39)
Longest streak of not playing a non-division I-A opponent (74 years)
Howabout this: Most wins in history

http://oklahoma.scout.com/2/603306.html

Sure hope that broken collar bone, dislocated shoulder, torn bicept, shattered elbow, broken radius, fractured wrist and dislocated fingers don't screw up his future with the Sooners. My neice went out with him last night and got the injury report straight from the man himself. 100% for sure! Dr Tre must have been downplaying his status, you know, trying to guard his secret to protect him. By the way Tre, my neice knows your cousin and says hi.

http://oklahoma.scout.com/2/603306.html

Sure hope that broken collar bone, dislocated shoulder, torn bicept, shattered elbow, broken radius, fractured wrist and dislocated fingers don't screw up his future with the Sooners. My neice went out with him last night and got the injury report straight from the man himself. 100% for sure! Dr Tre must have been downplaying his status, you know, trying to guard his secret to protect him. By the way Tre, my neice knows your cousin and says hi.

Sure buddy. I'm glad Nichol shared information that he's keeping quiet with some chick.

If anyone sounds like they are making stuff up, its you. If you are willing to spend hours on this thread, you'd think you'd take 20 minutes to prove me wrong yourself by looking into it in your hometown. I mean, you live in Lowell right? Wouldn't think it would be too hard to check into it yourself and actually talk to Nichol.

That last post was sarcasm, my friend. I thought it would be obvious. I did check it out with the trainer last Thursday and was told that he's working out three times a week in the weightroom and is fine as reported in an earlier post. He's done at Lowell and is on his way to Oklahoma to start school after the holidays.

shadjak: "...I did check it out with the trainer last Thursday and was told that he's working out three times a week in the weightroom and is fine..."
The trainer? Yes, yes...the "trainer". So, that's what you believe, eh?
It seems to be working out just as I plannned all along..
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Most WTF posters know that I'm a completely neutral observer in this matter.

After reading this thread, I'm so fucking happy that Oregon ruined Oklahoma's chances at a national championship by blocking that field goal. They didn't even deserve to be in the discussion anyway, and Boren tried to be as big of a dick as possible to the Pac-10.

You Oklahoma fans are a fucking disgrace. In any other conference BUT the Big 12 you'd struggle for a top-3 position. Even in the Pac-10. Nichol probably won't even help you that much, so you're blowing a lot of smoke over nothing. From now on, I'll be associating the word "reactionary" to Oklahoma football.

Fuck the Sooners.



On a related note, Zip Goshboots' remark about leading MSU to a 5th-place finish also cracked me up.

This is DrTre. In regards to your last paragraph, you are OFFICIALLY A FUCKING RETARD. I posted here how I came acrossed the information. I didn't talk to him, so how was I supposed to ask him how he got injured. You live on this damn thread yet you can't fucking read the other posts. I've answered you several times and if you were here in time, you would know how I got my info and understand why nobody else is questioning me. Shut the fuck up and go away. I can't handle obsessed retarded posters who can't read. If you care so much, maybe you'd bother to find out how I got my info and why it is considered valid.

sigh, haha okay i needed to ge that out. back to normal now haha

I'm the retard??? Re read my posts dipshit, I asked you "why upon hearing that Nichol had a "serious" injury to his throwing arm, you didn't ask your SOURCE, how it happened"? With no due respect, you said "this came straight from Nichol's mouth" then you back tracked and said you heard it from your cousin. So, I asked you why you didn't ask your COUSIN, how the injury occured. To date you still have not answered that question, and apparently are not going to.

Most WTF posters know that I'm a completely neutral observer in this matter.

After reading this thread, I'm so fucking happy that Oregon ruined Oklahoma's chances at a national championship by blocking that field goal. They didn't even deserve to be in the discussion anyway, and Boren tried to be as big of a dick as possible to the Pac-10.

You Oklahoma fans are a fucking disgrace. In any other conference BUT the Big 12 you'd struggle for a top-3 position. Even in the Pac-10. Nichol probably won't even help you that much, so you're blowing a lot of smoke over nothing. From now on, I'll be associating the word "reactionary" to Oklahoma football.

Fuck the Sooners.





On a related note, Zip Goshboots' remark about leading MSU to a 5th-place finish also cracked me up.

You're precious Big10 doesn't have the balls to play a conference championship game. A BCS history lesson. The Big12 has played in 5 of the previous 6 BCS title games, the big 10 has played in 1. When you guys have the balls to have a title game, then you can talk your Big 10 shit, otherwise, piss off, you Michigan puke.

Yeah, the conference championship game has been a BOON to the Big 12. Ask Nebraska in '96, Kansas State who was #1 one year till they lost, and ask Oklahoma who got DRILLED the last two NC games they played in.
I recall something like 55-19 to USC. Hoo wa! Boom that Sooner!
AND, how's that 34th ranked recruiting class coming along this year?*
According to Scout.com as of last night.

I choose to believe someone I know and see on a regular basis, ie...the trainer, over some faceless poster on an obscure message board. Notice how NOTHING is being reported elsewhere about his alleged "injury". I't's a hoax, a ruse and a blatant lie, perpetuated on a gullible audience by an over zealous egotist tring to make a name for himself.

Okay Tre, I'll make it real simple for you . Why, did you not ask your SOURCE, how Nichol injured his arm? That would have been the obvious question to ask, yet you, for some strange reason chose not to ask. Could it be, you have no source, and this is all sour grapes? Could it be, if you had gone into some detail about when, where, and how this injury occured, and then it was later found out there was no injury, it would have totally exposed you as a fraude?


Agian, I'm giving you a chance to tell us all, right now, why you didn't ask your SOURCE, how Nichol was injured.... Go ahead, dance around the question again, for the 10th time.

I've also noticed, on the front page your headline reads..

"Keith Nichol Hiding an Injury from OU?"

If this story, is 100% true, as YOU'VE claimed, why the ? at the end????

Shouldn't it read...

Keith Nichol Hiding an Injury from OU!

I've also just read a headline from the Daily Oklahoman:
"Wife Tosses Husband out on Arse for being Obsessed With Michigan Chatboard"

Or, should it read, "Life Partner Tosses, um, Husband(?) Out on Arse For Being Obsessed With Michigan Chatboard"?

You're precious Big10 doesn't have the balls to play a conference championship game. A BCS history lesson. The Big12 has played in 5 of the previous 6 BCS title games, the big 10 has played in 1. When you guys have the balls to have a title game, then you can talk your Big 10 shit, otherwise, piss off, you Michigan puke.

Big Ten - Soon to be 2 BCS Championships.

Big 12 - 1.

And as a conference Matchup:
OSU > OU
UM > Texas
Wiscy > Nebraska
PSU > A&M
Purdue > Missou
Minny = TTech
Iowa > KSU
Indy < KU
NW > Colorado
MSU < OSU
Illinois > Baylor

Big Ten > ISU

So for you to rip on the Big Ten is laughable.

Yeah, the conference championship game has been a BOON to the Big 12. Ask Nebraska in '96, Kansas State who was #1 one year till they lost, and ask Oklahoma who got DRILLED the last two NC games they played in.
I recall something like 55-19 to USC. Hoo wa! Boom that Sooner!
AND, how's that 34th ranked recruiting class coming along this year?*
According to Scout.com as of last night.


I don't think losing to a damn good LSU team in New Orleans, 21-14 is getting drilled, at least we made it there, where was your team, the Poulan Weed Eater Bowl????
Also, I don't give a damn where the scout network ranks our recruiting class, when they start determing the BCS champion based on where your recruiting class is ranked, then I'll worry about it.

Big Ten - Soon to be 2 BCS Championships.

Big 12 - 1.

And as a conference Matchup:
OSU > OU
UM > Texas
Wiscy > Nebraska
PSU > A&M
Purdue > Missou
Minny = TTech
Iowa > KSU
Indy < KU
NW > Colorado
MSU < OSU
Illinois > Baylor

Big Ten > ISU

So for you to rip on the Big Ten is laughable.

uhhh, Texas and Oklahoma have both won BCS titles, so that's 2 for the Big12 and 1 for the Big10.

You might want to get your facts straight sport.

My point is, if THE OSU had to turn around and play Michigan again, and beat them for a 2nd time, it would be much tougher on them to get to the BCS title game.

OU in 2000 went to KSU, who at the time was undefeated and ranked 8th and beat them, then at the end of the year we had to go to Kansas City, and beat KSU again, in there own back yard. I say either every conference plays a title game or none of them do.

In 2003, we had to play another game at Kansas City, we got drilled, and Jason White got injured. It is my contention had we not had to play that game, we would have gone into the Sugar Bowl healthy and had a better chance to beat LSU. I'm not saying we would have, but playing that extra game, hurt us. But, LSU had to play an extra game as well, so they earned and deserved that victory.

I don't have a problem with the quality of teams in the Big10. I think Ohio St and UM, could play and beat anyone this year, including my Sooners. My problem lies with the fact that, they aren't playing under the same rules as the Big 12, SEC, ACC and Big East.

I've also just read a headline from the Daily Oklahoman:
"Wife Tosses Husband out on Arse for being Obsessed With Michigan Chatboard"


Did you read the headline

"Michigan fan obsessed with replying to a guy who he calims is obsessed"?

I've also noticed, on the front page your headline reads..

"Keith Nichol Hiding an Injury from OU?"

If this story, is 100% true, as YOU'VE claimed, why the ? at the end????

Shouldn't it read...

Keith Nichol Hiding an Injury from OU!

I don't own this website and I don't run the front page. The owner put my story there douche bag. I don't care if you believe the story or not. You obviously have obsession issues and no life. Go away, nobody wants you here.

You are officially on ignore, so don't bother posting anything to me. I won't see it.

So, you don't think the Big 10 plays under the same rules?
The conference championships are a conference by conference call, man!
The coaches don't like 'em, the players don't like 'em, they are just there as a money grab.
In fact, conference championship games are played by CHEATS!!!
They do it to give their conference another game and exposure. There is no NCAA rule governing them, only that you have to have 12 teams in a conference to have them.
I commend the Big 10 and the Pac 10 for not having conference championships. Each conference would have to add more teams, and that is a process that has to be more well thought out.
Personally, I don't see the Big 12 lasting a whole lot longer. There has been talk of Missouri or iowa State leaving for the Big 10, and Nebraska has a hard one for getting out because they were shafted by the Big 12 regarding rules and regualtions that the conference instituted, mainly to please the Texas schools who recruit mostly dummies and illiterates. Colorado has never stopped talking to the Pac 10 about possibly joining that conference.
The Big 12 has issues, bud. The Big 10 is stable and has more tradition in its foreskin than the Big 12 will ever have, and more recognition and pull in the college football world.
It's laughable that the egos who created this conference have not seen it blow up like they thought it would. They inhereited alot of shit from the Big 8, and killed one of the best rivalries of all time (Nebraska v Oklahoma) to accomodate the texas schools. It's crap.

So, you don't think the Big 10 plays under the same rules?
The conference championships are a conference by conference call, man!
The coaches don't like 'em, the players don't like 'em, they are just there as a money grab.
In fact, conference championship games are played by CHEATS!!!
They do it to give their conference another game and exposure. There is no NCAA rule governing them, only that you have to have 12 teams in a conference to have them.
I commend the Big 10 and the Pac 10 for not having conference championships. Each conference would have to add more teams, and that is a process that has to be more well thought out.
Personally, I don't see the Big 12 lasting a whole lot longer. There has been talk of Missouri or iowa State leaving for the Big 10, and Nebraska has a hard one for getting out because they were shafted by the Big 12 regarding rules and regualtions that the conference instituted, mainly to please the Texas schools who recruit mostly dummies and illiterates. Colorado has never stopped talking to the Pac 10 about possibly joining that conference.
The Big 12 has issues, bud. The Big 10 is stable and has more tradition in its foreskin than the Big 12 will ever have, and more recognition and pull in the college football world.
It's laughable that the egos who created this conference have not seen it blow up like they thought it would. They inhereited alot of shit from the Big 8, and killed one of the best rivalries of all time (Nebraska v Oklahoma) to accomodate the texas schools. It's crap.


The fact is this, OSU didn't play Wisconsin this year, and didn't have to beat UM twice to win the Big 10. The extra game only helps you if your a team like NU with 3 losses, it gives you a chance at a BCS.

I don't own this website and I don't run the front page. The owner put my story there douche bag. I don't care if you believe the story or not. You obviously have obsession issues and no life. Go away, nobody wants you here.

You are officially on ignore, so don't bother posting anything to me. I won't see it.


I hope everyone took notice that Tre STILL has not said why he didn't ask his source, how he was injured.

The fact that the Big 12 is a conference which is usually lopsided helps also. Nebraska was the "North" champion, and the runner up to them had, I believe, 16 losses.
But that's the story of the "big" 12: It's a league where the divisions are out of balance. There is only one team in the North with a semblance of tradition and name recognition, and that team, Nebraska, has had 6,4, and so far 4 losses the last three years. In fact, before the three year streak I so adroitly just referenced (off the top of my head and without the aid of Google), they had a three loss season preceeded by a SEVEN loss season.
I know, your'e going to have an orgasm because Nebraska accomplished something last year that only five teams managed: To beat Michigan.
But I don't think that that Alamo Bowl victory will be something Big 12 fans will walk around with boners over.

The fact that the Big 12 is a conference which is usually lopsided helps also. Nebraska was the "North" champion, and the runner up to them had, I believe, 16 losses.
But that's the story of the "big" 12: It's a league where the divisions are out of balance. There is only one team in the North with a semblance of tradition and name recognition, and that team, Nebraska, has had 6,4, and so far 4 losses the last three years. In fact, before the three year streak I so adroitly just referenced (off the top of my head and without the aid of Google), they had a three loss season preceeded by a SEVEN loss season.
I know, your'e going to have an orgasm because Nebraska accomplished something last year that only five teams managed: To beat Michigan.
But I don't think that that Alamo Bowl victory will be something Big 12 fans will walk around with boners over.

I'm not arguing over who has the better conference, I'm saying that the Big10 doesn't have a conference championship game, and the SEC, Big12, ACC, Big East, do. It' s not an even playing field. I think all leagues should have a conf champ game, or none of them should. I'm not arguing which league is better. Some years the Big10 is and some years the Big 12 is. Why do you keep trying to turn this into a Big10 vs Big12 debate. This is a conf champ game vs non conf champ game. If it will make you feel any better, let's apply this logic to the SEC vs Pac 10

So, you don't think the Big 10 plays under the same rules?
The conference championships are a conference by conference call, man!
The coaches don't like 'em, the players don't like 'em, they are just there as a money grab.
In fact, conference championship games are played by CHEATS!!!
They do it to give their conference another game and exposure. There is no NCAA rule governing them, only that you have to have 12 teams in a conference to have them.
I commend the Big 10 and the Pac 10 for not having conference championships. Each conference would have to add more teams, and that is a process that has to be more well thought out.
Personally, I don't see the Big 12 lasting a whole lot longer. There has been talk of Missouri or iowa State leaving for the Big 10, and Nebraska has a hard one for getting out because they were shafted by the Big 12 regarding rules and regualtions that the conference instituted, mainly to please the Texas schools who recruit mostly dummies and illiterates. Colorado has never stopped talking to the Pac 10 about possibly joining that conference.
The Big 12 has issues, bud. The Big 10 is stable and has more tradition in its foreskin than the Big 12 will ever have, and more recognition and pull in the college football world.
It's laughable that the egos who created this conference have not seen it blow up like they thought it would. They inhereited alot of shit from the Big 8, and killed one of the best rivalries of all time (Nebraska v Oklahoma) to accomodate the texas schools. It's crap.

As I"ve already stated, the Big12 has played in 5 of the last 6 BCS championship games, far more than any other conference.
Texas, Nebraska and Oklahoma have just as much if not more tradition than Michigan, OSU and PSU. That argument is a wash.

The Pac10 and the Big10 don't play champ games, because they know it could hender their ability to get to the BCS champ game. So, when I hear Michigan crying because Florida was chosen to play THE OSU, I have no sympathy for them.

No, they don't play championship games because they don't have enough teams.

Oklahoma football didn't exist before 1950. Nebraska football was an afterthought before 1970. What they have done since is certainly an amazing story, especially Nebraska. They have no business winning national championships, especially 5 in 27 years. I'll give you Texas. No argument. But as a conference, the "big" 12 is bullshit. Were they visionary, or were they arrogant?
Right now they are scrambling in the face of the Big 10 starting up its own network. They have no options. Their original commissioner had a beef with ESPN, and consequently they were banished to something called Fox SR, which brings back memories of pre cable UHF being your home base for television. On the other hand, ESPN and the Big 10 made love, got married, and have lived happily ever after. Even where I live, the local cable provider broadcasts Big 10 Football "Game of the Week".
You are certainly right in bragging about the Big 12 playing in five of the last six national championships. You can't "spin" away from that. AND, the Big 12 has won two of them, both, I believe, against favored teams. That is commendable. But my argument is that the "big" 12 doesn't match the Big 10 in recognition and tradition as a whole. It remains to be seen if it can maintain what it has done, and even if it can stay together.

I lost my train of thought, because I had to go get another beer and take a leak, so now I'll address some of your other points.
These conference championship games cannot be used to support any argument about conference strength. Nor can they be used as a source for the argument that your conference has a bigger dick than any other conference.
Why? I'll tell you why: They were created by conferences that were lacking in appeal and money. The "big" 12 was created because football in that part of the country was dead. Texas was shit. Oklahoma was, well, the shit of shit. The two premier programs of the armpit of the country (The central plains down to the Mexican border) had fallen off the map. The only team worth a shit was Nebraska. THe Southwest Conference had lost Arkansas, had the SMU debacle, and the Big 8 was dead.
As for the SEC, they were busy jumping up and down screaming like little girls telling us how great they were, yet every year EVERY team in that conference had three losses.
And, had anyone even HEARD of ACC or Big East football?
Meanwhile, the Big 10 made breaking news by adding Penn State, and it had the Rose Bowl tie in with the PAC 10, which, no matter what went on elsewhere, EVERYBODY watched.
So what's the conclusion?
The Big 10 rules. If not technically, then theoretically. But perception is reality, and ESPN had the "Timeclock" running for UM vs OSU, and no other game, and at no other time, EVER.
Deal with it.

I'll tell you what, No Neck. It's not that you look like the bulldog from the old Looney Toons stuff that makes me wretch. It's not the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about that makes me sick.
You know what bugs me? Those curtains behind you in your picture. They are terrible. They have "double wide" written all over them. I'm guessing that the rest of your house has bedsheets over the windows, and in the winter, there is alot of Reynolds Wrap that can be seen from the street when one of your neighbors drives by in his pick up truck with a payload full of dead squirrels.
You need to get some fashion sense before you come on this board. You are talking to a people who have built the industrialized world, and at the same time we can rip off a list of the best wines you can buy while vacationing on the French Riviera. We can rivet a fender onto a Dodge Neon at 3 O'clock, and by five O'clock we're discussing the influences of Wagners' "Flight of the Valkyries" on King Ludwig II.
Honestly, you ought to be embarrassed at your lack of taste.
And by the way, it's not pronounced "WAG-ner", it's pronounced "VOG-ner", you dumbass.

You're precious Big10 doesn't have the balls to play a conference championship game. A BCS history lesson. The Big12 has played in 5 of the previous 6 BCS title games, the big 10 has played in 1. When you guys have the balls to have a title game, then you can talk your Big 10 shit, otherwise, piss off, you Michigan puke.

ROFL. You think I give a shit about UM or MSU? We fucked over UM in '04 and tattooed MSU in like '99.

Five of the games...and they've won...what, half? That doesn't quite strike me as elite. More like better-positioned.

Sorry if I'm trampling on your religion, but at least I can ground myself in mine.

You know what I find interesting about this whole thing??

The fact that people have been arguing over an 18 year old high school kid. That's why I don't really care about recruiting because I just think it's wrong for people to totally investigate and track down stories on some high school kid. There's just something twisted about that.

Well, you could say that we're arguing over an 18 year old kid, but it has evolved into one of those good old fashioned "My team is great, and yours sucks". Plus it's also gone to whether or not there was treachery involved in putting the rumor about the injury out there.
Keith Nichol left this discussion long ago. Ever since we've had ESPN, and afleets have become rock stars, the TALK about sports is bigger than the game. That's the reality of it.

I'll tell you what, No Neck. It's not that you look like the bulldog from the old Looney Toons stuff that makes me wretch. It's not the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about that makes me sick.
You know what bugs me? Those curtains behind you in your picture. They are terrible. They have "double wide" written all over them. I'm guessing that the rest of your house has bedsheets over the windows, and in the winter, there is alot of Reynolds Wrap that can be seen from the street when one of your neighbors drives by in his pick up truck with a payload full of dead squirrels.
You need to get some fashion sense before you come on this board. You are talking to a people who have built the industrialized world, and at the same time we can rip off a list of the best wines you can buy while vacationing on the French Riviera. We can rivet a fender onto a Dodge Neon at 3 O'clock, and by five O'clock we're discussing the influences of Wagners' "Flight of the Valkyries" on King Ludwig II.
Honestly, you ought to be embarrassed at your lack of taste.
And by the way, it's not pronounced "WAG-ner", it's pronounced "VOG-ner", you dumbass.

It's called photoshop, dick head, but I guess that software hasn't made it to BY GOD MICHIGAN yet.

I'll tell you what, No Neck. It's not that you look like the bulldog from the old Looney Toons stuff that makes me wretch. It's not the fact that you have no idea what you're talking about that makes me sick.
You know what bugs me? Those curtains behind you in your picture. They are terrible. They have "double wide" written all over them. I'm guessing that the rest of your house has bedsheets over the windows, and in the winter, there is alot of Reynolds Wrap that can be seen from the street when one of your neighbors drives by in his pick up truck with a payload full of dead squirrels.
You need to get some fashion sense before you come on this board. You are talking to a people who have built the industrialized world, and at the same time we can rip off a list of the best wines you can buy while vacationing on the French Riviera. We can rivet a fender onto a Dodge Neon at 3 O'clock, and by five O'clock we're discussing the influences of Wagners' "Flight of the Valkyries" on King Ludwig II.
Honestly, you ought to be embarrassed at your lack of taste.
And by the way, it's not pronounced "WAG-ner", it's pronounced "VOG-ner", you dumbass.

No Idea what I'm talking about? Well let's review what I've said.

The Big 12 has won 2 BCS Titles
The Big 10 has won, 1

The Big 12 plays a Conf. Champ Game
The Big 10 does not play a Conf. Champ Game

The Big 12 Has played in 5 BCS Title Games
The Big 10 Has played in (1) to date.

Oklahoma has won more NC over the last 50 years than every D 1 school in Michigan combined.

To date Tre has not provided one shred of proof to validate his rumor that Keith Nichol is hurt. He's had a week to ask his source how Nichol was hurt, and instead of doing it, and providing the info, and shutting me up, he's put me on ignore, and stoped all communication regarding this RUMOR.

Now if you can disput any of that, go ahead.

Okay everyone get ready, here come another in a series of boring responses aimed at insulting the state of Oklahoma, and staying away from what this is really about.

Fetch boy, fetch.

Why would anyone photoshop a picture of themselves to make it look like they have a pituitary problem?

Do you use that pic to troll for fat chicks with hairlips on MySpace or something?

Dumb Michigan Laws
A woman isn't allowed to cut her own hair without her husband's permission.
There is a 10 cent bounty for each rat's head brought into a town office.
It is legal for a robber to file a law suit, if he or she got hurt in your house.
You may not swear in front of women and children in the state of Michigan.
Any person over the age of 12 may have a license for a handgun as long as he/she has not been convicted of a felony.

Clawson
There is a law that makes it legal for a farmer to sleep with his pigs, cows, horses, goats, and chickens.

Detroit
Couples are banned from making love in an automobile unless the act takes place while the vehicle is parked on the couple's own property.
Willfully destroying your old radio is prohibited.
It is illegal for a man to scowl at his wife on Sunday.
Alligators may not be tied to fire hydrants.
It is illegal to let your pig run free in Detroit unless it has a ring in its nose. According to history and animal husbandry, it prevents them from "rooting" in the ground for their food.

Grand Haven
No person shall throw an abandoned hoop skirt into any street or on any sidewalk, under penalty of a five- dollar fine for each offense.

Harper Woods
It is illegal to paint sparrows to sell them as parakeets.

Kalamazoo
It is against the law to serenade your girlfriend.

Rochester
All bathing suits must have been inspected by the head of police.

Soo
Smoking while in bed is illegal.

Wayland
Anyone can keep their cow on Main Street downtown at a cost of 3 cents per day.
Wow, you have way too much time on your hands, and a vivid imagination. Apparently not enough time to find out that Clawson is %100 urban and has no farms.

And did you seriously rip on Michigan Academics? Lol. I won't be reading any more of your posts, that is for sure. I have nothing against Oklahoma (the state or the university), but I sure hope most fans aren't that stupid.

Why would anyone photoshop a picture of themselves to make it look like they have a pituitary problem?

Do you use that pic to troll for fat chicks with hairlips on MySpace or something?

Glenn, please don't tell me you think that blonde skank is attractive. Hell, I guess maybe in Michigan she would be considered so.

Too add to your post, Chris, in terms of academics, here's a fun fact for you.

Top Universities in the country:

Michigan is ranked in the top 25.
Michigan State is ranked in the top 70.
...still searching for first ranked Oklahoma school....
oohh - there's one: University of Tulsa at 88...
...still looking...
THERE'S OKLAHOMA!
Just barely cracking the top 125 Division 1 schools at 119.

SOLID ACADEMICS.