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Glenn
03-13-2019, 09:08 PM
He in.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/03/13/beto-orourke-iowa-1220465

Uncle Mxy
03-14-2019, 04:15 AM
He couldn't take his own state's Senate race against a highly flawed candidate.
So, he wants to run for U.S. President against a highly flawed candidate?
Hopefully, he's running for VP.

Glenn
03-14-2019, 06:22 AM
He couldn't take his own state's Senate race against a highly flawed candidate.
So, he wants to run for U.S. President against a highly flawed candidate?
Hopefully, he's running for VP.

Seeing this type of rationale everywhere. He came close to winning in Texas, the rest of the country, especially the electoral college states he’d need to win, ain’t Texas.

Uncle Mxy
03-14-2019, 08:50 AM
If you can't take your home state (or one of your home states if you legitimately have two), don't bother running for the Presidency.
I've been saying that since Al Gore was campaigning in Michigan and not locking down Tennessee, weeks before dimpled chads.
And yeah, I know Trump won without New York, but if his opposition weren't a New York Senator, I'd have said the same thing.

Uncle Mxy
03-14-2019, 09:03 AM
Oh, don't get me wrong. I like Beto. Hell, I even donated to Beto sorta (long story involving beer). I just think he has to win Texas first.
An electoral calculus that involves ditching your home state is one where you're getting bad press at home that gets seen nation-wide.

Glenn
03-14-2019, 09:05 AM
I think the traditional conventions are dead. We’re in the age of the celebrity president and the Democrats need someone that will get people excited. Were you excited by the first dozen or so people that entered? This is what is necessary at this point.

Uncle Mxy
03-14-2019, 09:37 AM
Tulsi could get me excited... heh...
Oh wait... we're talking politics!
I think the would-be POTUS must be entertaining without being a clown.
When the clowns win, we lose.
It doesn't matter what party they are.

Glenn
03-14-2019, 02:33 PM
Big Star fan, lol

http://i66.tinypic.com/2qcfshv.jpg

Timone
03-14-2019, 09:53 PM
Beta O'Dork

Uncle Mxy
03-15-2019, 09:04 AM
https://politics.theonion.com/beto-o-rourke-announces-he-starting-obama-cover-campaig-1833305932?utm_content=Main&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SF

Uncle Mxy
03-15-2019, 07:02 PM
Don't have a cow, man! This is actually pretty awesome!

https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-politics-beto-orourke/

Uncle Mxy
03-18-2019, 06:12 AM
Beto's in town TODAY, peeps:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/2019/03/17/beto-orourke-kirsten-gillibrand-michigan/3194204002/

Avenatti's take on Beto YESTERDAY, peeps:

https://spectator.us/beto-michael-avenatti/

Glenn
03-18-2019, 07:53 AM
I don’t think it’s as complicated as Avenatti is claiming.

Almost any of the Dems can win this if a) they can raise the money b) they can avoid any splintering or major inner-party sub-factions from forming c) a major third party candidate doesn’t enter and fuck it up.

Avenatti, of course, wanted to be the tough guy candidate that he’s describing, but his recent criminal/legal trouble squashed that hope, so this article just reeks of sour grapes to me.

How fucked up would it be to see Trump “sponsor” a 3rd party candidate to siphon off votes from the Dems so his 36% would have a chance at being enough? It’s not impossible in the cartoon land that we’re living in.

Glenn
04-18-2019, 07:05 AM
Lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBhlT7XUdOs

Uncle Mxy
05-20-2019, 01:30 PM
Pete Buttigieg is stealing Beto's thunder.

Glenn
06-27-2019, 09:26 AM
Beto shit the bed, lol. Castro did a nice job.

Timone
06-27-2019, 06:34 PM
Beta got owned so hard. He's terrible.

Uncle Mxy
06-29-2019, 11:40 AM
I think Beto's mostly right and Castro's mostly wrong.

Yes, crossing the border largely as described in the statute should be a crime. There could be better language for political refugees, but mostly it seems fine to me. The law's been in the books for a hundred years or so.

Arguably, the criminal penalties that Section 1325 could impose are stupid. It's like a misdemeanor and up to 12 months of jail for jaywalking. Part of the point of such excesses in potential sentence is to discourage bad behavior. Part of the point is to give prosecutors more shit to throw at people who did something bad they can't really be pinned on. It's the "we got Al Capone for tax evasion" approach, where his sentence was disproportionate to the actual tax crime and typical sentence for such acts in that era, because he was a killer mob boss. Personally, I think that shit is stupid.

What Trump's perpetuated is prosecuting everyone for that to the full extent, even asylum seekers. That's stupid. But, the real problem is Trump, moreso than the law. Most presidents before didn't use this law to justify fucting concentration camps. Getting rid of it is a way to stick it to Trump, but the real fix here is to get his ass out of office. With a sane preisdent, if you didn't have a Section 1325, you'd want to have a law that's pretty similar. It's unclear to me if such similar laws already exist.

Uncle Mxy
11-03-2019, 07:53 AM
Roll over, Beto. You're done.

BTW, my "win your home state" mantra goes for Buttigieg, too.
I'm not sure he can take Indiana, especially with Pence on the ticket.