First one to 80 wins?

It's been about as ugly as I expected it to be.

Can't say that I can blame anyone for not wanting to talk about this one.


We agree.

You know it's going to be bad when ESPN chooses to televise a game with the Bulls instead.

WHOEVER WINS THE TURNOVER BATTLE WINS THE GAME

More like whomever figures about that Bynum can be abused at will, amiright?

Kaponowned.

Kaponowned.

He fucking destroyed Bynum there.

I don't know bout chu, but I'm tired of the Iverson "We talkin' about practice" thing. It's just not funny anymore.

Ben Gordon's reaction to his bobblehead is more entertaining than the game.

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I thought Iverson signed with Memphis? Did they trade him to the sixers? Wednesday December 9, 2009 7:45 Wil Ledezma
7:46
Ryan Pretzer:
Wil just came back from a minor league rehab assignment on the moon... Wednesday December 9, 2009 7:46 Ryan Pretzer


7:46
Keith Langlois:
Nope, after coming off the bench for three games, Iverson requested a leave of absence he claims was unrelated to not starting. A few weeks later, they granted him his release. He "retired" - because no one was offering him a deal until Philly stepped up.

Lol, I think vinny enjoys the chats more than the game. Probably has the right idea.

I didn't get the package this year, stuck searching for crappy feeds online.

How about Kwame Brown drawing a double team from Philadelphia.

They should replace the Rocky statue with a statue of Kwame, because he just owns Philly.

Damn you ABC Family, I keep getting sidetracked.

Pee-wee is on again.

I put the over/under on the Iverson honeymoon phase being over at 5 games......and I'll take the under

Did you see that pussy Bynum fake that ankle injury after he turned the ball over?

Dodged a big one there. Can't believe Iguodola ended up being wide open.

Someone should explain to me someday why one of the worst shooting teams in the league elects to go for 3 there...not a high percentage play.

BTW, that's double-double #3 for Jerebko, placing him 2nd in the league among rookies behind Terrance Williams.

I LOL'd when Stuckey broke Iverson's ankles early in the game. Otherwise, not good basketball, but still somewhat entertaining, IMO.

I knew the hornets we're bad, but not this bad.

I got in the car tonight and Matt Dery was talking about the Okafor trade and I got instantly excited. Then I realized we were playing the Hornets tonight and he was talking about NO acquiring Okafor, not sending him to Detroit.

I cried.

I knew the hornets we're bad, but not this bad.

I wouldn't put it on the Hornets being bad. The pistons have been good. CV, Chucky and Bynum especially.

edit: how does ben have no boards yet though? that's crazy.

Ben has spent a lot of time on the perimeter guarding David West.

So far, the difference has been in our bench. They can't handle the talent we have in reserve.

So far, the difference has been in our bench. They can't handle the talent we have in reserve.

CV... the Torch.

Max is getting torched. He can't been in the same zip code as david west on any of his trademark jumpers.

Bynum still doesn't look right. He's apparently decided not to shoot tonight, just pile up assists and turnovers. The +15 is nice, though.

Chucky took some of whatever Big Ben has been hiding in his locker.

I think Wilcox has been scored on every second he's been in the game.

It looks like the Hornets addressed whatever was causing all of the lazy passes and fumbled balls during the first half at the break.

I bet CP3 trashed the lockerroom.

about the worst interior defense you can play over the last 4 minutes. Only reason we still have a lead is V caught fire.

Wilcox was really, really bad. Ben in a wheel chair could defend the paint better.

I knew the hornets we're bad, but not this bad.

Shameful attempt at downplaying the opponent.

They're not good, going to be in the lottery.

A lot of dead weight and subpar pieces around the big 3.

It's hard to even watch Peja, he used to be a hell of a player and one of my favorites. The only reason they play him now is because of his contract that they'll never have any chance of moving without giving him some PT and hoping he catches fire.

He looks ready to retire. Those back injuries destroyed him.

of all the games for Kuester to send Kwame to the doghouse, this was a game where he actually could have at least bodied up Okafor. Wilcox is simply getting steamrolled by him.

Stuckey looks like he wants to take 30 shots tonight.

Can't really blame him with who the other options are, but he needs to do a better job of not forcing the issue.

....and here comes the home cooking...

Yeah, I'd score easy too if I was allowed to use two pivot feet....

I'll take a road win against anyone right now.

Feels like we're melting down.

ok Austin, you had 4 seconds to look at the shot clock. That's unforgivable.

Can't really blame him with who the other options are, but he needs to do a better job of not forcing the issue.

that's bullshit. CV is clearly the best offensive option on the court. Stuck shouldn't be doing that shit. It's not nearly that bad, even Chucky is lighting it up this game.

Rodney is taking over.

that's bullshit. CV is clearly the best offensive option on the court. Stuck shouldn't be doing that shit. It's not nearly that bad, even Chucky is lighting it up this game.

No Rip & no Gordon. Can't blame the kid for trying to be who the organization wants him to be. He's just got terrible decision making skills. He decides that he's going to shoot and then he goes and does it no matter how the defense reacts. Sometimes it works.

No Rip & no Gordon. Can't blame the kid for trying to be who the organization wants him to be. He's just got terrible decision making skills. He decides that he's going to shoot and then he goes and does it no matter how the defense reacts. Sometimes it works.

http://www.wtfdetroit.com/forums/image.php?u=413&dateline=1260203331

James Posey with...whatever that was.

We don't really deserve to win this game anyway. We have zero game plan to deal with a simple 3-2 zone, and simple pick and rolls.

We've scored 28 pts this half.

SCHEDULING LOSS

the final 2 minutes of this game gets more embarrassing by the second.

There is absolutely zero structure to what we're doing. Everybody is standing around and watching stuckey throw up slop.

alternate play: stand around and watch Bynum throw up slop. Nice.

very different feeling from last night. We played a shitty team tonight, had them down 16 and basically mailed in the 2nd half. Inexcusable.

Our lack of composure in clutch time was beyond disturbing. We need a fucking floor leader. And if Stuckey's going to fire an endless stream of 20-footers, he's not it.

In Stuckey's defense, nobody else stepped up, either.

51-30 new orleans in the 2nd half. New Orleans has more FTs in the 4th quarter than we have total points.

3-10 on the road this year. 1-6 on the road against western conference teams.

repeat: find a floor leader. We got shut down by a simple 3-2 zone. That should not happen to a professional team. Ever. Anybody with even a sliver of court vision would be able to find open people. That goes for Stuckey and Bynum.

No Rip & no Gordon. Can't blame the kid for trying to be who the organization wants him to be. He's just got terrible decision making skills. He decides that he's going to shoot and then he goes and does it no matter how the defense reacts. Sometimes it works.


I refuse to believe somebody told Stuckey not to pass. If so, then this team is run by morons.

Tonight had nothing to do with playing on the road.

it had a lot to do with playing on the road. It's much easier to keep your composure at home. It's much harder to mentally cope in crunch time away from home.

I refuse to believe somebody told Stuckey not to pass. If so, then this team is run by morons.

Not what I meant. They want him to score.

I refuse to believe somebody told Stuckey not to pass. If so, then this team is run by morons.
Nobody was doing shit to get open, either. They all just stood there and watched him shoot.

This was a game where we really could have used Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince. Shit, even Ben Gordon against that stupid ass zone would have been a big help. At the very least they wouldn't have stood there and deferred to Stuckey the entire 4th quarter.

it had a lot to do with playing on the road. It's much easier to keep your composure at home. It's much harder to mentally cope in crunch time away from home.

Ok, so you let me know when it's ok to chalk it up as a road loss. The other night you said the loss had nothing to do with playing on the road.

So how many of our road losses are because of playing on the road?

Yesterday was just another team shooting out of their minds. It wasn't really anything the Pistons didn't do.

Tonight was a very beatable team that the Pistons crumbled against like little girls because they threw in the unheard of wrinkle of a 3-2 zone.

The last 2 minutes had a lot to do with a team that didnt have a fucking clue who they were when the pressure got turned up. They just stood scared and waited for stuckey to rescue them.

post game comments from coaches and player alike are pretty much the same. They stopped moving the ball around and they paid for it.

What's that got to do with being on the road?

Already explained.

Nobody was doing shit to get open, either. They all just stood there and watched him shoot.
that's what was happening all game though. Pick and pop, drive and dish. If Stuckey wants to chuck up a shot 4 seconds into the shot clock from 20 feet out there isn't shit anybody can do about that. I noticed Stuck ignoring Bynum twice as well, once when Bynum cut to the basket unguarded and the other on the pass in. Stuckey was on some bullshit, and it's on his shoulders this time.

Yesterday was just another team shooting out of their minds. It wasn't really anything the Pistons didn't do.

Tonight was a very beatable team that the Pistons crumbled against like little girls because they threw in the unheard of wrinkle of a 3-2 zone.

The last 2 minutes had a lot to do with a team that didnt have a fucking clue who they were when the pressure got turned up. They just stood scared and waited for stuckey to rescue them.

Teams can only play the 3-2 at home?

Yes.

LEARN THE RULES TAHOE!

What Tahoe knows about the rules is irrelevant.

I wanna party with those crazy Bernstein kids.

I wanna party with those crazy Bernstein kids.

hell yeah. that googly eyed motherfucker gotta be on some good shit.

Wait for it...

Wait for it...

wait for what?

i'm impatient like a meth addict man. i don't do that wait stuff.

It will be interesting to see how Stuckey fares against Thabo.

I've seen more shitty goaltending calls go against us his year than I have in the previous 9.

And how much fucking blood do we have to draw to get some free throws? It sure isnt stopping the thunder from getting them on touch fouls.

The way this game has been officiated is very discouraging to me. We're not good enough to overcome this shit for 4 quarters.

Summers doesn't miss that corner 3, does he?

That beard on Harden is terrible.

It feels like we should be up by 10+ right now

hell yeah. that googly eyed motherfucker gotta be on some good shit.
^Insensitive

Better late than never

Willy B. piling up the assists again tonight.

they've attempted more than double our FTs. At least half weren't even shooting foul calls.

Hard to sell your players on being aggressive if the other team is handed FTs every time you breathe on them.

Daye has 4 fouls in under 4 minutes.

at least 2 of those fouls were utter horseshit.

Summers has 3 fouls too. Anybody that's breathed on Durant has at least 1 foul.

The officials decided long ago that they were going to suit up as Durant fanboys.

If we're going to win this game, it's going to be 5 on 8. Just toughen up and play.

Jeff Green elbows Bynum in the face, takes a hop afterword, then decides to shoot it.

3-point play, foul on Bynum. Of course it is.

At the half we have double the fouls of OKC and less than half as many FTs.

OKC is neither a great defensive team nor did they go to the hoop more.

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never been all that impressed with Durant.

I don't think Blaha thinks that Kuester has ever called a bad timeout, lol.

Stuckey heading toward 30 shots again tonight, but again, you can't really blame him. Getting others involved is not his job anymore.

Jonas!

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never been all that impressed with Durant.
For three...


Right on cue!

I wonder if Jonas will complain about being sore all over and not getting any calls tonight after the game?

Looks like Krstic visited Austin Croshere's hairstylist.

Unless we make a bunch of threes, we'll probably lose by 10 or so.

I was holding a safety meeting at my house while the game was on, so I was also serving beers but we don't look 'inspired' tonight.

they couldn't beat 5 thunder players plus 3 officials. It was the most lopsided officiated game I've seen this season.

It was impossible to get excited when we were up 8-10 early because the way the game was being called, there was zero chance we'd hold it.

Road loss?

I know I'm in the minority, but I've never been all that impressed with Durant.

Ditto

IBKSSTWNARL

How the fuck are Charlotte killing us?

And who the fuck has been defending Gerald Wallace?

this is a bad team. There's nothing more to say.

Any play that does not end with Stuckey taking a shot is a bad play. Everyone else on this team is incapable of making shots. At least when Stuckey misses, he creates offensive rebounding opportunities. Nobody else can even get inside the paint.

Kuester is looking worse by the minute for asking Stuckey to share the ball more. Our shaky offense has been just plain terrible ever since, because nobody else can hit shots even wide open.

I've seen enough of Will Bynum. He's a 4th guard that's being exposed by the minute for not being able to shoot anything outside of a layup.

the Bobcats turned the ball over 10 times in the 4th quarter and they played us even. That's fucking outstanding. It takes a complete and total lack of shooting ability to only score 21 points in a quarter where the other team turned the ball over 10 times.

They packed in the paint and just stood there and watched us shoot. They didnt even pretend to hide it. They sagged their entire roster in the paint and allowed us to shoot jumpers from any range. The only guys that were even defended like grown men were stuckey and V.

Jonas Jerebko: 3/10
Austin Daye: 1/7
Maxiell: 2/6
Summers: 1/7

Tell you what, between Those guys getting more shots, I'll just let Stuckey shoot the ball 40 times and call it a day. They can ask him to be a leader when there's an actual team to lead.

Clearly, Stuckey is not good enough to carry a team. If you are asking him to do so, it's going to get even uglier than it already is. With this current lineup, we need 3 guys to play above their heads to win a game. Not 1.

Stuckey is better than nobody.

When he was taking all the shots, at least this team was staying competitive. Now they're just terrible.

That's been illustrated ever since Kusters' comments, which I'm %100 sure he is painfully regretting. Stuckey is deferring like he said, and we're much worse.

We've gone from a bad team that was at least competitive to a bad team that just rolls over.

That's been illustrated ever since Kusters' comments, which I'm %100 sure he is painfully regretting. Stuckey is deferring like he said, and we're much worse.

We've gone from a bad team that was at least competitive to a bad team that just rolls over.

I think his comments were and are exactly what we needed. He challenged Stuckey to step up as a leader and, at least so far, he's wilted.

At least we know better what we have now.

Yeah, he told Stuckey to get others involved. I haven't seen him do that one bit. Just hide.

Can't get people involved that can't hit an open shot and cant catch a pass under the rim.

KStat, Stuckey can't hit an open shot either. Certainly not a 3.

he hasn't been taking any threes.

Probably a good thing when you shoot 18% from 3.

again, he hasn't taken any. His percentage from the arc doesn't matter if he isnt taking them.

So now being bad at shooting threes is a positive!

it's neither. It's like getting on Ben Wallace for not shooting free throws well. It's not part of his game and doesn't have to be.

He averages one attempt per game. Get a life.

but how can one live if he's already dead...

:emo kid:

We got a strange one tonight

Ben, Rip and JJ are playing out of their minds.

Stuckey's been horrific.

Ben was pissed at Stucks D a lil bit ago...at least thats what I saw from Sacramento.

It's been really chippy, wouldn't be surprised to see somebody get tossed

What was that Charlie V?

Don't tell me Ben Gordon is an emergency sub if he's still not going to come in even if we only have 1 functional guard left.

WHO SAID ROTNEY CAN'T FINISH?

I don't think anyone wants to face in the playoffs. We're that good.

Piston's has a win.

I really think this team can make a huge impact in the playoffs. We're that good.

after watching Okafor get smoked on the glass by Big Ben like that, I no longer want him on this team. That was embarrassing.

Okafor is vastly overrated by this board. He's undersized and doesn't play the defense that his reputation implies.

I thought his defense was excellent. But his impact on the game was very weak on every other front.

7 and 6 while a 35 year old man throttled him for 13, 21 and 5.

that 35 yo man is a phenom.

Another win?

Man, these guys really don't wanna tank.

I can't wait until the squad is actually healthy - then we'll see what we really have.

I know you guys will hate, but I'm ready to see Bynum back ASAP.

At the expense of Chucky Atkins, yes i want Bynum back ASAP too. Atkins as getting eaten alive out there, he did what he could to offset his +/- with timely 3 pointers. But overall he was killing us on defense.

I'm cool with Bynum coming back if he passes the ball. That playground bull crap will wreck the relatively good ball movement that the team has right now, and if the ball doesn't move, they don't win. That's the common denominator here.

I'm cool with Bynum coming back if he passes the ball. That playground bull crap will wreck the relatively good ball movement that the team has right now, and if the ball doesn't move, they don't win. That's the common denominator here.

Bynum leads the team in assist per 36 minutes, no one on the team has passed or shared the ball better than he has, and he's done it playing with the 2nd unit more than the starters.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/2010.html

This past week is the best stretch of PG Stuckey has ever played.

Nice pair of blocks for Big Ben.

And these were legit blocks, too, not the phantom blocks that Blaha was calling last night.

I think George had Ben for about 14 blocks last night, some of which he didn't come within 4 feet of the ball on.

^ Nice pair of... I was thinking something little different than Ben. Made me switch to the Pistons game though.

Also, JJ giving that proverbial 110%.

Jj is fun to watch, one of those guys that just has a knack for getting to loose balls.

If he keeps working/improving we might have something special.

Gallinari is a huge douche baig. A huge douche baig that can shoot the ball like a MFer, but a douche baig nonetheless.

Very odd Hall & Oates reference there by Blaha.

Lead down to 10, btw.

7

N8 going off

6

tough to score in crunch time with both Ben and JJ out there.

Ben needs to be out there, he's playing incredible. We're getting all of the loose balls right now.

Shitty shot by Rip followed by a 3 by Gallanari or something.

I bet they review that shot by Galli, the Knicks are claiming it was a 3.

Lee's "only" got 17 rebounds, but it seems like he has 30.

Shitty shot by Rip followed by a 3 by Gallanari or something.

Thought it was.

Bad call there, he got ball.

Easiest substitution ever right there, Ben in for CV31

a win's a win at this point. I'll take it.

Hopefully we eventually make a deal for someone that can score in the low post.

It seems every time we go on a drought, it's because we're being overplayed on the perimeter and they are leaving the paint vulnerable.

I seriously can't wait til we're healthy.

Bynum off the bench with BG, Nova and Jerebko would be pretty fucking good.

Wilcox at PF might suck but as long as he plays less than 18 mins per his craptacular D shouldn't kill us .

Nice comeback. Not sure we'll win it, but good comeback nonetheless.

When Gordon comes back, V should start. It's really irritating how we get off to horrible 1st quarter starts with our total lack of scorers in the starting 5.

Gayshaun was smiling and laughing after that bounce-pass to LaMarcus Aldridge.

So Keuster gives the rock to our 2 ring holders with 17 ticks left and Tay can't even pass the ball to a curling Rip.

Play the young guys.

Tayshaun's attitude the entire game sucked. he played like a guy that didn't care.

Stuck over Thabeet....lmao

there's an ogt

Is this it?

http://sport-now.info/ch2.html

If there is a game tonight, we will dash in pieces the enemy.

My thoughts on the Heat game.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/John-Wall-1339/

This is disgusting.

Enough of this shit, play the kids!

jesus...25 now

If there was a more glaring example of a team that has quit on the season, this is it.

I disagree. They're locking up a top-6 selection in the upcoming draft.

hopefully no higher than 6th, and thats assuming they finish with the 3rd worst record.

I think I'm finally happy that I don't get all the games on TV. 65 points against a team that isn't exactly known as a defensive stalwart, shit.

I think I'm finally happy that I don't get all the games on TV. 65 points against a team that isn't exactly known as a defensive stalwart, shit.
Making Wade look like a 3P ace takes talent.

Of course, it's a talent in the same way that someone sticking shit up their nose and having it come out of their mouth is a talent. Some things don't deserve to be televised, or even spoken of.

Anybody gotta stream?

No CV31 tonight "back spasms".

Big Ben turned his ankle in the opening minute, of course.

OT LCD>DLP in this room anyway.

Kuester coaching JJ up.

lol @ Gortat...even though I wouldn't mind him in a Piston's uni.

Awesome fingeroll by Ben!

Hot and cold this year...again. I wish someone knew the key to get them to play like this all the time.

I believe the word is "Orlando".

Reddick ...you don't want nona BenG

The Nets moved CDR to the bench for JARVIS HAYES

I'd rather start Jarvis Hayes than Tayshaun Prince.

i am glad Bynumite is back, he always gives 100% and is fun to watch

i am glad Bynumite is back, he always gives 100% and is fun to watch

No shit, how refreshing was that?

This could be a huge win for us against a great team.

It would be a huge win, only because of how huge a loss would be.

Damn... that sucked

It's gonna take some games before they al get rolling well, but imo the thing we are missing? A Dyess like guy off the bench. We're just shitty at PF, we have to start Jerebko and Wilcox because neither guys brings much scoring off the bench.

Richard Hamilton(notes) had seven more assists Tuesday (along with 22 points, 1 three, and five boards) and has now averaged 6.8 over his past 10 games. Hamilton has adjusted his game alongside the more scoring-oriented Rodney Stuckey(notes), and his season average of 5.2 assists is a career high and leads the Pistons.

Can someone figure out roughly how many lottery balls are at stake tonight?

Can someone figure out roughly how many lottery balls are at stake tonight?
None.

None.
You're living a lie.

Holy empty seats!

You're living a lie.
I didn't ask any questions, nor am I making any assumptions. You're doing a bad job with both.

^ something you found on a candy wrapper today?

5 Assists and 9 turnovers through 3 tells you about all you need to know about this one.

How Embarrasing!

^Indeed, lol.

What did we have, 10 assists?

still wondering why ben gordon barely plays until its garbage time.

^Indeed, lol.

What did we have, 10 assists?

Bynum got like 4 in the last 5 minutes or so to get us there.

Yeah, flip it to Gordon so he can chuck it.

if he did more chucking earlier maybe the game doesnt get out of hand.

still wondering why ben gordon barely plays until its garbage time.
It would help if half of the team didn't play the same position(s) that he does.

Well garbage time does start half way through the 2nd quarter these days.

I can't believe how horrible this team is.

It would help if half of the team didn't play the same position(s) that he does.
it shouldn't matter. he's the best player on the team at his position.

Well garbage time does start half way through the 2nd quarter these days.
I gave up when the score was 60-37.

The team gave up a lot sooner than that.

BORK BORK BORK, 9/9 atm, love jj. hope he stays in detroit for a while. http://www.gingerhongkong.com/HtmlAreaImages/swedish%20chef%20n%20kermit.jpg

Jj is gonna be a nice player, already is.

One of the only reasons to watch, lately.

If we just played NJ all year, we'd be .500?

Man, oh man we're pathetic.

Lining up for a Top 5 pick unless the boys get their shit together or Joe makes a big trade.

Great block by Ben on Duncan.

Is there a worse (current) tattoo in the NBA than Jefferson's stupid "RJ" with the starburst around it?

This game is a tasty, dry roasted, salted peanut in what has been a turd of a season.

Fuck you Rip, selfish faggot.

Fuck you Rip, selfish faggot.

^this.

It's tempting to call pop a bunch of punks for going to the hack-a-ben... but not to do so against the worst free throw shooter ever would be negligent. It also worked.

Fuck you Rip, selfish faggot.

^insensitive

Remember when beating the Spurs used to mean something?

It means more now, when it's the high point of the entire campaign than it did when games didn't matter until may.

Beating a borderline playoff team at the end of a 8 game roadtrip without their starting PG.

Yes, :we: have fallen that far.

Great block by Ben on Duncan.

Is there a worse (current) tattoo in the NBA than Jefferson's stupid "RJ" with the starburst around it?
Ivo
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Marquis daniels?
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AV or LBJ
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Unknown, but in the nba.
http://lowposts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/tattoo_daniels3.jpg

Winner?
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HvnrtGqYrfY/RwMR3yQn_kI/AAAAAAAAAnA/2s79HWQpzvU/s400/Stephen%2BJackson%2BTattoo.jpg

The shotgun tat is also Marquis Daniels

We should be alright if we get some bench contributions tonight.

The new shoes are doing wonders for the team these days.

Hanging in there at the end of the 3rd.

But Denver could still blow us out.

Bynum, Gordon, Tay, Max and CV on the floor and I'm asking myself, where is our scoring going to come from?

Max

Got the lead with 4 mins left.

Keep Tay, his defense since being 100 percent has been A-1 and way ahead of every SF/SG on our team.

bleh, unless CV turns into a starter and Maxiell finds the magical fountain of offensive consistency, this team is gonna lose plenty more this year. I accept that it's what was more likely to happen when the year started, still stings to see games slip away like this sometimes.

Losing to Denver at their place should kind of be expected, shouldn't it?

And I don't expect much out of this group anyway. We need some significant changes to the roster before I really look at going to anywhere in the playoffs.

Losing to Denver at their place should kind of be expected, shouldn't it?
When you control most of the game and hold back Melo with lil' to no double teams, wins should be expected, so i'm still mildly disappointed.

got beat by 3 of our own players.... well we should have gotten melo.

When you control most of the game and hold back Melo with lil' to no double teams, wins should be expected, so i'm still mildly disappointed.

Watching the game reminded me of when we could not pay attention to the other team for about 3 quarters and turn it on and win it without much effort.

Denver is a good team, really good. We made them work a little bit, but I'm surprised it was that close.

GS Warriors announcers after JJ went to the hoop..."And Karch Karily to the the hoop"

Nice comeback if you are a Warrior fan or hoping for a higher draft pick for the Pistons.

another game where Ben Gordon plays 18 minutes and takes 4 shots.

meanwhile, Rip Hamilton has taken 15 more shots and made 3 more.

Rip Hamilton can't be traded fast enough. This is absurd. We're paying Ben Gordon $10 million to play 1 1/2 quarters.

JJ just sprained an ankle. Someone check his shoes.

ben is sooo clutch from the free throw line. wow two airballs.

Ben can get as pissed off as he wants and the fans can get pissed off about hack-a-Ben, but it works sometimes.

I think they might just take ben wallace out of the game at the 5 min mark of the 4th quarter from now on. The hack a ben is gaining steam, and every team in the NBA is going to start doing it.

Its going to be especially embarrassing for him tonight because those two airballs will be all over sportscenter.

Jeezasfukintiteekreist...dude can't even hit the rim as a pro bball player?

I'd still have him on my team though.

he can still be big ben...he just cant be big ben from the 2-6 minute marks of the 4th quarter. He needs to be benched ben.

Just go offense defense with him when you get time outs.

they tried that this game and he was fouled 3-4 times before they took a timeout.

You cant just call timeouts every play halfway through the 4th quarter to sub ben in and out. You'd run out of them in 90 seconds.

I'm talking about when they get to the end of games and they are really doing 1 possession at a time type of offense/defense.

yeah but at that time they cant just foul him anytime they want to.

Unless I'm not following your post, thats my point.

there's no point in subbing him out at all then.

another game where Ben Gordon plays 18 minutes and takes 4 shots.

meanwhile, Rip Hamilton has taken 15 more shots and made 3 more.

Rip Hamilton can't be traded fast enough. This is absurd. We're paying Ben Gordon $10 million to play 1 1/2 quarters.
It's not Rip's fault Gordon has been a pussy about shooting shots with confidence lately(that horrible turnover attempt to pass mid air on an open 3 in Dungver was a prime example). You're leaving a false impression that Rip is taking shots away from Gordon, but thats just not the case.