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i've always wanted to pretend to be an architecht.

The statistics are pretty alarming about how few people are actually in the field they studied for their degree when compared with the work they do. I would bet a thousand bucks that bukdow doesn't do shit with his "biochemistry" degree. Teehee. Wink Wink.
I am sure to people like you a biochemistry degree is pretty intimidating. Frankly, it should be, the curriculum is difficult. As far as my using the degree, I certainly do. I work for a company that researches and developes nanocomposites. Therefore, my chemistry (inorganic, organic and physical) comes in very handy. Therefore, your assertion that many people in fields contrary to their program of study is bullshit. Well, I guess if you went to school for something worthless like general studies, how the hell could you work in your field. There is no field.

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bukky, i finally figured out who you remind me of. ^this guy. its spot on.

MSU fans are notorious for claiming that Michigan fans are "spinners." Meaning, no matter how terrible the news, they will somehow spin it in their favor. Ex.-It's okay that kid decommitted, we're getting Tate now! Or it doesn't matter that he got injured because his backup is supposed to be amazing.

I guess I didn't understand just how ridiculous it could get until I listened to Diddy explain 55 kids on a team majoring in general studies. "Majors don't matter, nobody cares what you major in!"

Coincidently, Michigan announced their new position...very funny. Reminds me of JLS and his "bandit" position and special teams twister board.

"Robinson will alter Michigan's scheme. He personally will coach a new position the Wolverines call "spinner," which is a hybrid linebacker/safety. Some longtime Michigan watchers compare the "spinner" role with the "wolfman" position that Bo Schembechler used."

Right, and MSU fans (or Oklahoma or USC) never would put a positive spin on bad news.

Never.

Right, and MSU fans (or Oklahoma or USC) never would put a positive spin on bad news.

Never.

All fans do from time to time, Michigan fans seem to do it no matter the circumstances.

They spin good news into bad?

BAKER!

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i could find you endless amounts of good jobs that just require a degree, but im sure no ammount would prove anything to you, since you already "know" it all.

as far as

All fans do from time to time, Michigan fans seem to do it no matter the circumstances.

maybe it feels that way because you obsess over michigan so much. michigan fans were extremely critical of lloyd carr his last few years, even though he maintained a thoroughly respectable club throughout. baker, consider this: it might just be that your a lame douchebag who derives pathetic joy from the misery of others.

maybe it feels that way because you obsess over michigan so much. michigan fans were extremely critical of lloyd carr his last few years, even though he maintained a thoroughly respectable club throughout. baker, consider this: it might just be that your a lame douchebag who derives pathetic joy from the misery of others.


My boy Dr.diddy just busted out the couch and analyzed your sorry azz. LOL

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHA POST OF THE YEAR b-diddy! GOOD SHIT. Damn, only Knockout is supposed to give beatdowns like this homeboy.

ROFLCOPTER

I am sure to people like you a biochemistry degree is pretty intimidating. Frankly, it should be, the curriculum is difficult. As far as my using the degree, I certainly do. I work for a company that researches and developes nanocomposites. Therefore, my chemistry (inorganic, organic and physical) comes in very handy. Therefore, your assertion that many people in fields contrary to their program of study is bullshit. Well, I guess if you went to school for something worthless like general studies, how the hell could you work in your field. There is no field.

I don't get intimidated over the intranets.

sounds like MSU's qb bolden was the star of the elite 11 camp.

sounds like MSU's qb bolden was the star of the elite 11 camp.

Feel bad for the kid. I mean, PSU is a stellar program so no loss there. But I feel bad that his Dad prevented him from going where he wanted and controls him this much. That isn't rumormill stuff, multiple credible writers noted the fact that Dad told MD that his son's commitment was void if MD couldn't give him a job. Woulda paid hundreds just to see Dantonio's face when Dad told him he wanted a job in return.

Feel bad for the kid. I mean, PSU is a stellar program so no loss there. But I feel bad that his Dad prevented him from going where he wanted and controls him this much. That isn't rumormill stuff, multiple credible writers noted the fact that Dad told MD that his son's commitment was void if MD couldn't give him a job. Woulda paid hundreds just to see Dantonio's face when Dad told him he wanted a job in return.

He prolly said, 'you need to check yourself'

Feel bad for the kid. I mean, PSU is a stellar program so no loss there. But I feel bad that his Dad prevented him from going where he wanted and controls him this much. That isn't rumormill stuff, multiple credible writers noted the fact that Dad told MD that his son's commitment was void if MD couldn't give him a job. Woulda paid hundreds just to see Dantonio's face when Dad told him he wanted a job in return.

Interesting story...........link? I haven't seen it on ESPN yet nor have I heard it on any of the talk radio, but I'm sure the story is coming soon.

Interesting story...........link? I haven't seen it on ESPN yet nor have I heard it on any of the talk radio, but I'm sure the story is coming soon.

I do sit around and think about stories to make up, see Dar Tucker. Made that shit up sitting around one day. But Mike Valenti host of the Sports Inferno, two different radio shows, and web site was the first "writer" to write about it. Didn't feel like searching it, but you can find it there. Because he is an employed host, he can't make shit up without losing his job...like i do. Thats one place you can find it, obviously not the kind of topic you'll find in your local newspaper.

He prolly said, 'you need to check yourself'
I bet there is an appropriate Bible verse or 20 that might work

Feel bad for the kid. I mean, PSU is a stellar program so no loss there. But I feel bad that his Dad prevented him from going where he wanted and controls him this much. That isn't rumormill stuff, multiple credible writers noted the fact that Dad told MD that his son's commitment was void if MD couldn't give him a job. Woulda paid hundreds just to see Dantonio's face when Dad told him he wanted a job in return.
Yeah, sounds like Bolden suffers from "Marcus Taylor syndrome". I certainly won`t be that way with my son. He will be free to choose between Harvard and the University of Chicago depending on his ideological leanings (which better be left-of-center).

^so you've already accepted michigan is going to decline his ass?

Not likely that any school will be so desperate to accept your son that they would even consider offering you a job if he accepts their scholarship.

Not likely that any school will be so desperate to accept your son that they would even consider offering you a job if he accepts their scholarship.
When my son starts university, I will be 54. Hopefully, I will be winding the work-life down by then and not looking for another/new position. Who knows? The economy may have something to say about that as well.

When my son starts university, I will be 54. Hopefully, I will be winding the work-life down by then and not looking for another/new position. Who knows? The economy may have something to say about that as well.


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im suprised we're not being lectured on how big of a loss feagin is, and that its further evidence that rodriguez has completely lost control of his players.

im suprised we're not being lectured on how big of a loss feagin is, and that its further evidence that rodriguez has completely lost control of his players.
Dead horse. Beat.

I love it! It opens up a scholarship for a 2 1/2 star 5'1", 110lb dude who can run a 4.13 40 but will break his ribs the first time he falls to the turf!

Let's get to the real story here...........

Who in the hell do you guys know that says and I quote "When my son starts university." Is Bukdow Mexican or something? First off, NOBODY calls college "university" and here in America we say "When my son goes to college" or "When my son goes off to college."

WTF Bukdow???

Let's get to the real story here...........

Who in the hell do you guys know that says and I quote "When my son starts university." Is Bukdow Mexican or something? First off, NOBODY calls college "university" and here in America we say "When my son goes to college" or "When my son goes off to college."

WTF Bukdow???


I think bukdow is posting in a pseudo-British accent with that one, actually. Must've just finished off another issue of Smithsonian.

I hate to interrupt Zip and his...whatever you call it. But in actual recruiting news:

Michigan State lands 4 Star Safety Isaiah Lewis from Indy. This is their 4th Rivals 250 commitment and most believe Hicks will be moved into the 250 with the next update. I believe they will add 3 more for a total of 8 in this class.


Indianapolis Ben Davis High School defensive back Isaiah Lewis committed to Michigan State this morning with a phone call to Spartan head coach Mark Dantonio, defensive backs coach Harlon Barnett and area recruiter Don Treadwell.

"I had known for about a week or so that I was going to Michigan State," Lewis told SpartanMag.com today, "but I wanted to take a little more time and make sure.

"Coach Dantonio says he likes my leadership, and Coach Barnett is impressed with how physical a player I am."

Lewis had 68 solos and 68 assists last year for Ben Davis, which advanced to Indiana's state semifinals.

Lewis, ranked the No. 14 safety in America by Rivals.com, is the Spartans' 10th verbal commitment of the 2010 recruiting campaign.

The four-star recruit had scholarship offers from Kentucky, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa, Oregon and Wisconsin, among others.

Wow, someone not from Michigan or Ohio. Check you out spreading the love.

UM didn't want him, because at 5'11" he's way too tall for the maize and blue secondary. He could have been moved to OLB, but he's a little heavy for that at 190.

haha, yea no shit huh. I think you'll see a few more commits from different states as MSU's program grows stronger. But with what MD was left with, he had to start at the heart. That won't change, but you may see a couple here and there (florida, indy, wisc., etc.)

In other news, MSU commit and soon to be Spartan for the 09 season Chris Norman checked in today and dropped everyone's jaw. The kid squated 610 pds setting an MSU freshman record. Think about that, over 6 bills at 18. The kid is an absolute freak.

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haha, yea no shit huh. I think you'll see a few more commits from different states as MSU's program grows stronger. But with what MD was left with, he had to start at the heart. That won't change, but you may see a couple here and there (florida, indy, wisc., etc.)

In other news, MSU commit and soon to be Spartan for the 09 season Chris Norman checked in today and dropped everyone's jaw. The kid squated 610 pds setting a MSU freshman record. Think about that, over 6 bills at 18. The kid is an absolute freak.

haha, yea no shit huh. I think you'll see a few more commits from different states as MSU's program grows stronger. But with what MD was left with, he had to start at the heart. That won't change, but you may see a couple here and there (florida, indy, wisc., etc.)

In other news, MSU commit and soon to be Spartan for the 09 season Chris Norman checked in today and dropped everyone's jaw. The kid squated 610 pds setting a MSU freshman record. Think about that, over 6 bills at 18. The kid is an absolute freak.

Oh snap! Looks like another title for the big Green.

Just wait until he hurts his arm.

Oh snap! Looks like another title for the big Green.

Seems like MSU was playing for the BT Championship in their last game of the year. Now they got it handed to them, but the fact that they were already there with half their team being JLS spread players is pretty good.

"Wait until Dantonio gets his guys for his system." Isn't that the old blue saying we've been hearing since they got Toledo'd?

Just wait until he hurts his arm.


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Spartans gain another commitment. Marcus Rush 6'3" 225 DE/OLB 3*

Chose MSU over offers from Nebraska, Kansas, and Michigan.

The kid ran a 4.6 40. If that is true, could be a monster.

Spartans gain another commitment. Marcus Rush 6'3" 225 DE/OLB 3*

Chose MSU over offers from Nebraska, Kansas, and Michigan.

The kid ran a 4.6 40. If that is true, could be a monster.
Obviously, since the kid chose MSU over UM he was a plan ZZ recruit for UM and he sucks and he is gay and he is bi-polar, etc. However, this kind of says it all:

"I visited Michigan and then I went up to Michigan State, and after the Michigan State visit I was thinking and comparing in my head, and it just popped in my head the fact that I spoke to (Pat) Narduzzi, the defensive coordinator, for two hours straight and Coach Dantonio for a couple hours after that," Rush shared. "But the point is I got to meet Narduzzi for the first time and we talked for two hours and I never got to sit down with Coach (Greg) Robinson, the University of Michigan defensive coordinator, and it just told me that I should be going to Michigan State because the fact these coaches are more interested in me, know what they're doing and it turned me on towards Michigan State."

I like the implication that since they made time to talk to him that means "they know what they're doing".

Not saying he is bad or anything, but UM stopped recruiting him months ago when they filled his position.

Obviously, since the kid chose MSU over UM he was a plan ZZ recruit for UM and he sucks and he is gay and he is bi-polar, etc. However, this kind of says it all:

"I visited Michigan and then I went up to Michigan State, and after the Michigan State visit I was thinking and comparing in my head, and it just popped in my head the fact that I spoke to (Pat) Narduzzi, the defensive coordinator, for two hours straight and Coach Dantonio for a couple hours after that," Rush shared. "But the point is I got to meet Narduzzi for the first time and we talked for two hours and I never got to sit down with Coach (Greg) Robinson, the University of Michigan defensive coordinator, and it just told me that I should be going to Michigan State because the fact these coaches are more interested in me, know what they're doing and it turned me on towards Michigan State."

i agree. check out those run on sentences. he'll definitly fit in better at MSU.

I've heard that his right leg is 3 inches shorter than his left leg.

He's gonna be like one of those guys on the vibrating football game from the 70's out there, round and round.

Obviously, since the kid chose MSU over UM he was a plan ZZ recruit for UM and he sucks and he is gay and he is bi-polar, etc. However, this kind of says it all:

"I visited Michigan and then I went up to Michigan State, and after the Michigan State visit I was thinking and comparing in my head, and it just popped in my head the fact that I spoke to (Pat) Narduzzi, the defensive coordinator, for two hours straight and Coach Dantonio for a couple hours after that," Rush shared. "But the point is I got to meet Narduzzi for the first time and we talked for two hours and I never got to sit down with Coach (Greg) Robinson, the University of Michigan defensive coordinator, and it just told me that I should be going to Michigan State because the fact these coaches are more interested in me, know what they're doing and it turned me on towards Michigan State."

From what I've heard the kid is pretty good. So what if he's only a 3 star? If I remember correctly, MSU pulled a 3 star from the same high school a few years back, a guy that happens to be the Big Ten Preseason DPOY.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that quote, though. It sounds like if Greg Robinson had talked to him for a long time possibly he wouldn't have picked MSU? Is that what you're saying? That quote says MSU wanted him more than UM did, right? Got it, fine. What are you trying to prove there?

I like the implication that since they made time to talk to him that means "they know what they're doing".

That is exactly what it means retard. Coaching and recruiting are all about relationships. Xs and Os are about 20% of the job. You must establish relationships with coaches, kids, members of the program, etc. You must get everyone on board with what you are doing and a big part of that is showing everyone that they are important to you and what you are doing. Wouldn't expect a one liner like yourself to get that.

It seems to me that when a staff comes into a program that is known for undisciplined football, inferior talent, meltdowns, etc. and they completely change the perception of that program, the results, and the quality of recruits coming in, it tells me they know what they are doing.

You missed the point, as usual, douche.

It implies that just because the UM coaches weren't interested in talking to him it means they don't know what they are doing.

From what I've heard the kid is pretty good. So what if he's only a 3 star? If I remember correctly, MSU pulled a 3 star from the same high school a few years back, a guy that happens to be the Big Ten Preseason DPOY.

I'm not sure what you're trying to say with that quote, though. It sounds like if Greg Robinson had talked to him for a long time possibly he wouldn't have picked MSU? Is that what you're saying? That quote says MSU wanted him more than UM did, right? Got it, fine. What are you trying to prove there?

I think he's trying to point out the differences in the way these two programs are being run. I'm not going to question RR and his recruiting though because I think that is his strength.

I think he's trying to point out the differences in the way these two programs are being run. I'm not going to question RR and his recruiting though because I think that is his strength.

Hmmm..interesting. But why is one of the "differences" that MSU wanted Marcus Rush and UM didn't--and wha makes that worth highlighting? According to Scout, Rush is the #71 ranked defensive end in the country. The two UM already has--Wilkins and Paskorz, are 31 and 60 respectively. When you have a pretty good one and another who is already borderline, why take another flyer?

Obviously, since the kid chose MSU over UM he was a plan ZZ recruit for UM and he sucks and he is gay and he is bi-polar, etc. However, this kind of says it all:
"I visited Michigan and then I went up to Michigan State, and after the Michigan State visit I was thinking and comparing in my head, and it just popped in my head the fact that I spoke to (Pat) Narduzzi, the defensive coordinator, for two hours straight and Coach Dantonio for a couple hours after that," Rush shared. "But the point is I got to meet Narduzzi for the first time and we talked for two hours and I never got to sit down with Coach (Greg) Robinson, the University of Michigan defensive coordinator, and it just told me that I should be going to Michigan State because the fact these coaches are more interested in me, know what they're doing and it turned me on towards Michigan State."

This is why you Sparties are so fucked up, and partly why Dantonio is going to have a cerebral hemorrhage on the sidelines during a Michigan game (I know, a cerebral hemorrhage is an oxymoron when Dantonio is involved). This is nothing more thant Dantonio trying to be the passive aggressive genius that Tressel is. Look at OSU--last year they recruit James Jackson and Reid Fragel from Michigan: both of those guys will never see the light of day in Columbus. They took Justin Boren, and there are all kinds of reports that he is the best OSU lineman now since Orlando Pace. I call BULLSHIT. If Boren is the best they got, they in trouble, and those mega-recruits of the last couple years are flops. Book it, Faggo.

And now you guys got boners over the #71 ranked defensive end in the country? He only has a schollie because he got the cold shoulder from UM. Yeah, MSU might have taken him--but later, if they got no one else. Now this one is fresh, and UM message board guys have been talking about him, so the DingDong says, "We're here. Take it. Take it now or you will have to play for Bowling Green"--RIGHT, "coincidentally" on the heels of him trying to commit to Michigan and Michigan saying, "Not so fast." BUT--he's GREAT because Sparty got him, just like he SUX because Michigan didn't. Now, he can anchor your line with the stellar NON RANKED Taylor Calero. Good luck with that one. I smell double and triple teams on Gholston and probably a torn ACL for him as well. Give me the CRED when it happens.

i predict gholston catches the hiv from boisture.

MSU also received a committment from the #6 punter in the country. Sadler from the GR area. Great student, too. 4.0 GPA and a 32 on the ACT. The kid must be pretty damn smart because I scored a 30 on the ACT.

I am sure that UM doesn`t need a plan ZZ punter who is gay and bi-polar. RR`s sooper-dooper double-looper offense will just always be on the field scoring, on average, 331 points a game. Punting went out with the dinosaurs.

buky, wasnt your act like a billion years ago? maybe its time to stop casually working it into a conversation...

buky, wasnt your act like a billion years ago? maybe its time to stop casually working it into a conversation...
1989. Also, it is well known that that year`s ACT was the hardest ever and the test had to be "toned down". So, a 30 on the famous "1989" ACT would easily be a 36 on today`s test. So, I guess the kid isn`t as smart as me after all.

Wow, he's funny again now?

1989. Also, it is well known that that year`s ACT was the hardest ever and the test had to be "toned down". So, a 30 on the famous "1989" ACT would easily be a 36 on today`s test. So, I guess the kid isn`t as smart as me after all.

or maybe kids were just dumber that year.

Rivals Michigan Top 35.

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Obviously, this list is made up of plan ZZ kids who are gay and bi-polar.

I don't follow the recruiting of high school boys at all, so someone can correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it just common sense that MSU is on that list more than UM due to them not having as much "pull" nationally? In other words, they do better here because they have to?

I would think that this one is probably one that you'd rather be higher on.

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The averages are pretty close, I see.

You missed the point, as usual, douche.

It implies that just because the UM coaches weren't interested in talking to him it means they don't know what they are doing.

I'd say 3-9 with 38 four star recruits on the roster and a loss to Toledo points it out better.

Zip, nobody is throwing a party over Rush so I don't know what you are talking about. UM thought he was good enough for an offer, they got two good DEs so they cooled...who cares on either side of this? He can't be bad if both schools offered, and he can't be a "can't miss" since one of them cooled. WHO CARES? Everytime a kid that both schools showed interest in commits to State, >some< of you throw an effin fit and start spinning shit in every way possible. Who gives a shit if somebody cooled or pulled an offer or whatever? We are talking about one 3 star kid.

In defense of MSU Zip, I think Gholston along with likely commit Olaniyan will be just fine. Guys like Rush and Calero are depth guys with the possibility for upside...kinda like 3 star preseason POY Greg Jones was.


So far, I'll trust in Dantonio's judgement of defensive talent.

I don't follow the recruiting of high school boys at all, so someone can correct me if I am wrong, but isn't it just common sense that MSU is on that list more than UM due to them not having as much "pull" nationally? In other words, they do better here because they have to?

NO. Michigan dominated the state of Michigan under Bo and Lloyd.

NO. Michigan dominated the state of Michigan under Bo and Lloyd.
That was only because during the Bo and Lloyd eras the state of Michigan wasn`t filled with plan ZZ recruits who were gay and bi-polar.

Baker, you are such a god damn moron! You still probably think defense and special teams are important. It doesn`t matter. Someone like you wouldn`t be able to grasp RR`s sooper-dooper double looper offense anyway. I won`t even start on the importance of chocolate milk. Loser.

Well that is now the third time you've talked about being gay and bi-polor Bukdow.

HINT TAKEN!!!

Well that is now the third time you've talked about being gay and bi-polor Bukdow.

HINT TAKEN!!!
Finally!

NO. Michigan dominated the state of Michigan under Bo and Lloyd.
Oddly, Colin Cowherd (not much of a fan, but it is what it is) was on today talking about how Lloyd Carr and Larry Coker are two guys that ruined their programs. He claims both guys often get free passes because they won titles with another coaches upperclassmen, but that people watching the teams under those coaches could tell that the programs were going in the wrong direction. Cowherd, a long-time Big Ten and UM hater, was talking about UM making a good choice by going with RR over Carr.
Again, I despise Cowherd because he's one of the most self-contradicting pieces of crap with a radio show, but I thought his national take was interesting.

Baker,

True or false, MSU needs in-state recruits more than UM does.

Answer directly please- no sidestepping

Baker,

True or false, MSU needs in-state recruits more than UM does.

Answer directly please- no sidestepping

Absofreakinglutely.

But, its been that way since the 60s. It didn't change the fact that UM still dominated for 40 years. I believe that if UM has a poor year again, Michigan will need instate kids BADLY because they won't be able to draw out of state. That is when things will definately spiral downward. Unless of course they surprise and have a great year.

Jethro, I think Carr did a couple of things very well. He dominated the recruiting scene in this state. He was consistent. He never let Michigan slide. How easily would it have been for them to fold up shop after App. State and Oregon? I HATED him though because I thought he was a cry baby when he lost, never gave opponents credit, and he was arrogant.

The thing he did poorly was use Michigan's talent to their full capability. He should have won more, he shouldn't have been dominated by Sweatervest, he should have done better in bowls, and he should have had more than a half of a NC given the fact they always had Top 5 talent.

Mixed results.

Absofreakinglutely.

But, its been that way since the 60s. It didn't change the fact that UM still dominated for 40 years. I believe that if UM has a poor year again, Michigan will need instate kids BADLY because they won't be able to draw out of state. That is when things will definately spiral downward. Unless of course they surprise and have a great year.


And it has without a doubt strengthened State so now 2 rivals are really your rivals again.

And it has without a doubt strengthened State so now 2 rivals are really your rivals again.

MSU is back and everyone they called a rival can now say the same in return. The optimism is through the roof.

now that msu is officially back, when does sparty start beating 1/2 way decent teams?

Baker: You are a turd. Since the days of Bo and 85 schollies, UM has taken 4-6 players from Michigan--typically trying to get the top guys, leaving the rest for Sparty.
MSU has had two banner years in Michigan in a row now--and I believe most of that can be attributed to the coaching change/transition/negative pub swirling around the Cirque Du Rodriguez.

I think if you are looking at guys like Boisture, Maxwell,Baker, Norman and Gholston--yeah, those are pretty big names that might very well have gone to Michigan in the pre-spread, pre-DickRod days.

Breaking it down though, Baker has played against shit competition and has been injured quite a bit. He only played what, 12 games in his last two years of high school combined? Gardner and Bolden are the top two QB's this year, no way does Boisture go to anything but the promise of a pro-style team. But with Bolden and Gardner, it was a matter of which guy bit first, and here it was Gardner, who will turn out to be the top player in the state. UM also got the top running back from this year.

I say the perception is in MSU's favor, but the reality is that right now it looks like a wash, and MSU will clean up with quantity over quality. And why you are counting on Olinyan is beyond me; why hasn't he jumped on the Dantonio Train yet? Not saying he won't, but he obviously isn't drinking the Green Kool Aid just yet.

And you say Carr "dominated" recruiting in Michigan. He couldn't get Rojo or Perry, and from Rojo's class, all those great names, and most went elsewhere (Barksdale, Colosanti, Allen, Pannell, etc). You Sparties are now just spinning shit that you don't need to just to make the DingDong look better than he really is.

FYI: Right now Scout has Sparty at #19. 12 recruits with an average star rating of 3.00, UM is 11--16 recruits at 3.19. I'm still optimistic for a good finish this year for DickRod--he kind of did nail it late in last year's recruiting season. But The DingDong is about tapped out except for Olinyan, and I gotta tell ya, I just don't think it's gonna happen.

And if your "sources" say it will, Baker the Turd--then we'll all know it won't.

EDIT: Scout actually has UM at #13, not #11.

Absofreakinglutely.

But, its been that way since the 60s. It didn't change the fact that UM still dominated for 40 years. I believe that if UM has a poor year again, Michigan will need instate kids BADLY because they won't be able to draw out of state. That is when things will definately spiral downward. Unless of course they surprise and have a great year.

Okay, true or false, the slide all started with adidas.

Oddly, Colin Cowherd (not much of a fan, but it is what it is) was on today talking about how Lloyd Carr and Larry Coker are two guys that ruined their programs. He claims both guys often get free passes because they won titles with another coaches upperclassmen, but that people watching the teams under those coaches could tell that the programs were going in the wrong direction. Cowherd, a long-time Big Ten and UM hater, was talking about UM making a good choice by going with RR over Carr.
Again, I despise Cowherd because he's one of the most self-contradicting pieces of crap with a radio show, but I thought his national take was interesting.

Calling Cowherd a "UM hater" means you don't listen to him, and you are a Scout Girlie Girl who has the radar up for any perceived slight against Michigan. It's simply not true.

Cowherd calls Michigan one of only four "national" teams--rates them in terms of prestige above the Oklahomas, Floridas, Texases, and many others in the country. For years he railed on Lloyd and of course, stupid Michigan fans who plaster him with 200 billion emails whenever he says anything this army of mental midgets takes offense to. Of course, when UM gets whomped on the national stage, the emails dry up.

He has also said, for years, that the potential Michigan has as a program is limitless, and easily thinks UM should be better than PSU, ND and OSU for northern powers. He simply railed on Lloyd for underachieving. And of course, if you listen to most Michigan fans who have spent the last 22 months railing on Lloyd and the talent vacuum in Ann Arbor, it kind of sounds like he was right, right?

The trouble with most Michigan fans is they are the dumbest people in the world, certainly the stupidest college football fans. They never listen to a complete argument, drink Kool Aid no matter who the coach is or what is going on, and become incredibly defensive and offended whenever the reality of Michigan football is revealed to them. It's a :SHIT STORM!: of ignorance!:cogent: [smilie=blaha.gif]

First off, I listen to Cowherd pretty much every day. I don't catch most of the show because I work, but he's on in the car during lunch. When he talks about the Big Ten he talks about OSU and stops there. He talks about how they dominate a weak Big Ten and then get plastered against teams outside of the Big Ten.
As I stated, my biggest beef with him is how often, sometimes within the same sentence even, he contradicts himself. If you've heard him praise UM and I, listening daily for 30-45 minutes, have only heard him rip the BT and claim it's OSU and everyone else, that fits his MO.

By the way, here's my theory about instate recruiting.

UM was long the program people looked to instate and tried to prepare kids for. Most D-II schools in the state ran pro-style offenses meaning high school teams that had intentions of prepping kids for those schools had to prepare kids who could fit in those systems. It was primarily smaller schools or schools that got little recruiting attention that would run spreads, prepping kids for D-II and beyond.
As more major teams, such as OSU and Illinois, along with UM, go with spread looks I think more high schools will start running it - and not just running it but focus on really teaching it to prepare kids.
That shift, as of right now, hasn't fully happened which is why you get so many kids - raised in a system that could have been tailor made for Lloyd's UM - that are now tailor made for MD's MSU.
As high school coaches watch to see what long term success the spread could have, and especially if schools like Western, CMU, and other MAC or Big Ten teams do, they may have to switch as well meaning the talent pool that is custom fit for MSU may shrink.
I think it's the reason Ronald Johnson left the state. Had RR arrived 2 years before Rojo graduated, I think the odds would have been better for him to pick UM over USC. He blasted the midwest by saying nobody focuses on speed but speed is what gets you in the NFL. Whether he was right or not, he created a perception.

I could be way off, and I'm sure I'll here from several who think I am (and may throw in extra-curricular comments about my intellect, etc.) but I'm just throwing it out there. If RR sticks around for a decade and has success, I think you could see the instate recruiting gradually shift.

Calling Cowherd a "UM hater" means you don't listen to him, and you are a Scout Girlie Girl who has the radar up for any perceived slight against Michigan. It's simply not true.

Cowherd calls Michigan one of only four "national" teams--rates them in terms of prestige above the Oklahomas, Floridas, Texases, and many others in the country. For years he railed on Lloyd and of course, stupid Michigan fans who plaster him with 200 billion emails whenever he says anything this army of mental midgets takes offense to. Of course, when UM gets whomped on the national stage, the emails dry up.

He has also said, for years, that the potential Michigan has as a program is limitless, and easily thinks UM should be better than PSU, ND and OSU for northern powers. He simply railed on Lloyd for underachieving. And of course, if you listen to most Michigan fans who have spent the last 22 months railing on Lloyd and the talent vacuum in Ann Arbor, it kind of sounds like he was right, right?

The trouble with most Michigan fans is they are the dumbest people in the world, certainly the stupidest college football fans. They never listen to a complete argument, drink Kool Aid no matter who the coach is or what is going on, and become incredibly defensive and offended whenever the reality of Michigan football is revealed to them. It's a :SHIT STORM!: of ignorance!:cogent: [smilie=blaha.gif]
Exactly why dumbasses and slack-jaws, like many on this board, are Wal-Mart Wolverines. Simply trying to manifest something in their lives that doesn`t exist otherwise. That being, respect.

By the way, here's my theory about instate recruiting.

UM was long the program people looked to instate and tried to prepare kids for. Most D-II schools in the state ran pro-style offenses meaning high school teams that had intentions of prepping kids for those schools had to prepare kids who could fit in those systems. It was primarily smaller schools or schools that got little recruiting attention that would run spreads, prepping kids for D-II and beyond.
As more major teams, such as OSU and Illinois, along with UM, go with spread looks I think more high schools will start running it - and not just running it but focus on really teaching it to prepare kids.
That shift, as of right now, hasn't fully happened which is why you get so many kids - raised in a system that could have been tailor made for Lloyd's UM - that are now tailor made for MD's MSU.
As high school coaches watch to see what long term success the spread could have, and especially if schools like Western, CMU, and other MAC or Big Ten teams do, they may have to switch as well meaning the talent pool that is custom fit for MSU may shrink.
I think it's the reason Ronald Johnson left the state. Had RR arrived 2 years before Rojo graduated, I think the odds would have been better for him to pick UM over USC. He blasted the midwest by saying nobody focuses on speed but speed is what gets you in the NFL. Whether he was right or not, he created a perception.

I could be way off, and I'm sure I'll here from several who think I am (and may throw in extra-curricular comments about my intellect, etc.) but I'm just throwing it out there. If RR sticks around for a decade and has success, I think you could see the instate recruiting gradually shift.
The Spread, Run and Shoot, Fun and Gun, its all the same shit. Namely, not football. It works situationally, but it is not a foundation for long-term success. Florida, OSU, Oklahoma are not pure spread teams. They employ aspects of the spread only.

or maybe they are more secure than to try to prove how great they are to random strangers on a message board...

Exactly why dumbasses and slack-jaws, like many on this board, are Wal-Mart Wolverines. Simply trying to manifest something in their lives that doesn`t exist otherwise. That being, respect.

buk,

I appreciate the effort, I really do, but nobody is buying into this schtick anymore. In order for someone to fall for it, they'd have to be a total n00b to the forum... and since this board rarely gets a new member (that actually posts), it's not going to happen.

buk,

I appreciate the effort, I really do, but nobody is buying into this schtick anymore. In order for someone to fall for it, they'd have to be a total n00b to the forum... and since this board rarely gets a new member (that actually posts), it's not going to happen.

I bought it.

now that msu is officially back, when does sparty start beating 1/2 way decent teams?

Well, beat Iowa a 9 win bowl team. Beat NW, a 9 win bowl team. I think those teams are "decent." Just another example of the classic Michigan fan spin. Rip MSU for not beating the teams they are supposed to for YEARS, then when they do...you've gotta find another angle so you start questioning them not beating the top teams in the nation. Keep in mind Dantonio is 2 YEARS in and doesn't even have a full roster of his guys yet-noticed how I used another UM spin for MSU?

Breaking it down though, Baker has played against shit competition and has been injured quite a bit. He only played what, 12 games in his last two years of high school combined? Gardner and Bolden are the top two QB's this year, no way does Boisture go to anything but the promise of a pro-style team. But with Bolden and Gardner, it was a matter of which guy bit first, and here it was Gardner, who will turn out to be the top player in the state. UM also got the top running back from this year.

FYI: Right now Scout has Sparty at #19. 12 recruits with an average star rating of 3.00, UM is 11--16 recruits at 3.19. I'm still optimistic for a good finish this year for DickRod--he kind of did nail it late in last year's recruiting season. But The DingDong is about tapped out except for Olinyan, and I gotta tell ya, I just don't think it's gonna happen.

And if your "sources" say it will, Baker the Turd--then we'll all know it won't.

EDIT: Scout actually has UM at #13, not #11.

This post is so ridiculously inaccurate it isn't even funny. First of all, you claim that Bolden and Gardner are the best QBs-OPINION. First of all, MSU had Bolden. Well known fact. But, it is Boisture who is ranked ahead of both of them. One camp doesn't decide a future. And honestly I could care less since they are all rated high, but you speak like its fact that he is 3rd best and that is inaccurate. You also claim that White is the best back, also your opinion. Also keep in mind that with Baker and Caper, MSU's rb position was about last on priority. You cite Scout, Scout is garbage. The thing is, I don't even know why you are making this argument. I have stated quite clearly that RR's strength is recruiting. You are making up arguments. The statement I've made is that he is making mistakes in state. We will find out if I'm right a couple years from now.

Marked down your opinion on Rock Baker. I guess we will see.

Well, beat Iowa a 9 win bowl team. Beat NW, a 9 win bowl team. I think those teams are "decent." Just another example of the classic Michigan fan spin. Rip MSU for not beating the teams they are supposed to for YEARS, then when they do...you've gotta find another angle so you start questioning them not beating the top teams in the nation. Keep in mind Dantonio is 2 YEARS in and doesn't even have a full roster of his guys yet-noticed how I used another UM spin for MSU?

right, so you werent predicting a terrible season for michigan last year, and then rip rich for having exactly that.

all fans spin. get over yourself.

right, so you werent predicting a terrible season for michigan last year, and then rip rich for having exactly that.

all fans spin. get over yourself.

Actually I made a bet with my buddy that they wouldn't get 9 wins last year. I thought 7-8. THREE? I know I said it before but even Bobby won 4 with a smoked out offense. Spin that one, Bobby freaking Williams.

Actually I made a bet with my buddy that they wouldn't get 9 wins last year. I thought 7-8. THREE? I know I said it before but even Bobby won 4 with a smoked out offense. Spin that one, Bobby freaking Williams.

Don't you ever get tired of obsessing over these arguments? I mean, all of us have moved on from the MSU/UM argue fest. You are still the exact same as you were 10 years ago, while everyone else has gotten over it.

Don't you ever get tired of obsessing over these arguments? I mean, all of us have moved on from the MSU/UM argue fest. You are still the exact same as you were 10 years ago, while everyone else has gotten over it.

Obsessing? Far from it. But I guess I'd like to use the same word in regards to your need to constantly post things to me or in reference to me. I enjoy rivalry debates. So do hundreds of thousands of other people. Newsflash, people have been arguing, debating, etc. rivalries since the beginning of sports. It makes sports fun. Don't like it? Why go to message boards then? The majority of mb material is debating rivalries.

Swear to God, I started chuckling when I read your assumption that I'm the same as 10 years ago. Seriously, if you only knew. I don't care enough about your opinion though to elaborate on that. Honestly, your BS is old. If you are referring to the same on mbs, I'll take that. That is fine with me.

Baker, I get the feeling that you haven't matured since about 4th grade, actually.
You just need a serious:SHIT STORM!: smackdown because you are such a lame Sparty Slappy Sissyboy. I can't wait to give you the :SHIT STORM!: smackdown you need.

Tried, peace out

I love Zip calling other people immature. Surprised he didn't go classic Zip and include some disgusting photo from his family reunion.

Also, didn't Bobby's smoked out team have the #1 player in the country and your favorite player for years? Weren't many of those same players who were "smoked out" also on the team that beat UM 1 second into overtime the year before?

Swear to God, I started chuckling when I read your assumption that I'm the same as 10 years ago. Seriously, if you only knew. I don't care enough about your opinion though to elaborate on that. Honestly, your BS is old. If you are referring to the same on mbs, I'll take that. That is fine with me.

Dude, I don't care at all about your personal life, or am I referring to your personal life in that post. Not surprising that you would think that is the case because obviously the line between reality and message board infamy runs an awful tight line for you.

Obsessing? Far from it. But I guess I'd like to use the same word in regards to your need to constantly post things to me or in reference to me. I enjoy rivalry debates. So do hundreds of thousands of other people. Newsflash, people have been arguing, debating, etc. rivalries since the beginning of sports. It makes sports fun. Don't like it? Why go to message boards then? The majority of mb material is debating rivalries.

Swear to God, I started chuckling when I read your assumption that I'm the same as 10 years ago. Seriously, if you only knew. I don't care enough about your opinion though to elaborate on that. Honestly, your BS is old. If you are referring to the same on mbs, I'll take that. That is fine with me.

Dude, he did not say that.

Oh shit, yeah he did.

It's true dude he did say that

Dude, I'd be pissed if I were you. He said that shit.

DUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUDE

I love Zip calling other people immature. Surprised he didn't go classic Zip and include some disgusting photo from his family reunion.

Also, didn't Bobby's smoked out team have the #1 player in the country and your favorite player for years? Weren't many of those same players who were "smoked out" also on the team that beat UM 1 second into overtime the year before?


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Tony Jones announcing his intention to play college football at MSU tomorrow.

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That looks Australian.

That looks Australian.

I like your blue hat, when were you there?

Tony Jones announcing his intention to play college football at MSU tomorrow.

another 1/2 pinte running back? so i guess recruiting smurffs must not be so bad afterall....

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Tony Jones announcing his intention to play college football at MSU tomorrow.

He's going to play football at MSU tomorrow? Whom will he be playing against? As far as I know, the season doesn't start for almost a month, yet this fucker badass is going to be on the field tomorrow?

Or, surely the Man With Two Degrees, who reads Smithsonian and uses a wedge and maul (probably to chip the crust off his wife's pussy before he attempts to have sex with something other than her rolls of fat) did not leave a dangling participle, did he?

Hmmmm...I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on report, bukdow.

He's going to play football at MSU tomorrow? Whom will he be playing against? As far as I know, the season doesn't start for almost a month, yet this fucker badass is going to be on the field tomorrow?

Or, surely the Man With Two Degrees, who reads Smithsonian and uses a wedge and maul (probably to chip the crust off his wife's pussy before he attempts to have sex with something other than her rolls of fat) did not leave a dangling participle, did he?

Hmmmm...I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on report, bukdow.
Well, if you weren`t constantly staring at my participle you wouldn`t have noticed it was dangling. Creep.

He's going to play football at MSU tomorrow? Whom will he be playing against? As far as I know, the season doesn't start for almost a month, yet this fucker badass is going to be on the field tomorrow?

Or, surely the Man With Two Degrees, who reads Smithsonian and uses a wedge and maul (probably to chip the crust off his wife's pussy before he attempts to have sex with something other than her rolls of fat) did not leave a dangling participle, did he?

Hmmmm...I'm afraid I'm going to have to put you on report, bukdow.

I'm seriously not joking or trying to rip on you or anything like that. I'm being 100% serious. Anyone that even comes up with the crap you post has something wrong with them. I'm serious, you have to have serious issues to have this go through your head.

On a side note, you've got people like this taking over a NCAA forum and completely prevent sports discussion from taking place. Good work again GLANN! You've done wonderful things with the place. Sarcastic idiotic one liner coming in 5...4..3...

Sarcastic idiotic one liner coming in 5...4..3...

We suck so bad that you can't stay away?

im going to regret typing this, since it will be ignored. but the handful of people who constantly complain about the quality of the forum are also some of the worst offenders of absolute pointless, waste of time drivel.

zip might go off course, but atleast he's usually pretty funny.

whining about quality constantly is just whining. no one likes it.

Zip posts useful info on this forum (lots more than Baker)...and more than a lot of us have. He's entitled to some rantings/stinkers, imo.

im going to regret typing this, since it will be ignored. but the handful of people who constantly complain about the quality of the forum are also some of the worst offenders of absolute pointless, waste of time drivel.

zip might go off course, but atleast he's usually pretty funny.

whining about quality constantly is just whining. no one likes it.

What are you talking about? (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15089)

Gardner and Bolden are the top two QB's this year, no way does Boisture go to anything but the promise of a pro-style team. But with Bolden and Gardner, it was a matter of which guy bit first, and here it was Gardner, who will turn out to be the top player in the state. UM also got the top running back from this year.


Zip just wondering if you could explain this. You claim Gardner and Bolden are tops, yet Boisture is ranked above them. Then you follow it with UM got the best RB, yet I see Hill above White. Have you seen those new ESPN commercials, "Not everyone can talk sports?" Well I guess we know why you tend to post garbage.

Rivals Top 35 Michigan
1 William Gholston
Detroit (MI) Southeastern DE 6-7/237 Michigan State
Physically, one of the best looking prospects in country.
2 Joe Boisture
Saline (MI) Saline QB 6-6/202 Michigan State
Participated in the prestigious Elite 11 quarterback camp.
3 Ricardo Miller
Ann Arbor (MI) Pioneer WR 6-2/208 Michigan
Finished his junior season at Orlando (Fla.) Dr. Phillips with 34 catches for more than 600 yards and eight TDs.
4 Devin Gardner
Detroit (MI) Inkster QB 6-4/195 Michigan
Sky is the limit for this Elite 11 quarterback as he continues to improve passing skills.
5 Dior Mathis
Detroit (MI) Cass Tech DB 5-8/166 list
Made U.S. Army National All-Combine first team defense.
6 Max Bullough
Traverse City (MI) St Francis Catholic LB 6-3/225 Michigan State
Nearly 250 tackles over last two seasons.
7 Robert Bolden
Orchard Lake (MI) St. Mary's QB 6-4/195 Penn State
Very strong showing at the Elite 11. Completed nearly 64% of passes his junior year.
8 C.J. Olaniyan
Warren (MI) Warren Mott DE 6-5/230 list
A threat to move into the top three of state rankings by year's end.
9 Earnest Thomas
Orchard Lake (MI) St. Mary's DB 6-2/195 UCLA
Recorded 85 tackles in nine games last season.
10 Mylan Hicks
Detroit (MI) Renaissance DB 5-11/182 Michigan State
Solid off-season in camps will translate into big senior season.
11 Nick Hill
Chelsea (MI) Chelsea RB 5-6/179 Michigan State
Rushed for 2260 yards and 27 TDs last season.
12 Austin Gray
Warren (MI) Fitzgerald School LB 6-2/220 Iowa
A bull in the middle. More than 200 tackles over last two seasons.
13 Austin White
Livonia (MI) Stevenson RB 6-0/186 Michigan

PLEASE don't give anyone "Hill over White" fag breath. ZOMG you have got to be kidding! Hill is a Sparty because White lagged--didn't want to go there. These rankings so far are barf. Tell me: Was it the same guy who ranked William Campbell as the 12th best player in the state of Michigan last year? Take a look at Ricardo Miller: He hasn't played a down of football in Michigan yet--and he's in at #3? Have these guys even seen him?

And they are pre-Elite 11 camp, where Boisture finished last of 12 quarterbacks who participated. Holy Shit you Sparties provide the intranets with tons more garbage than even Michigan fans do, and that's saying something.

Weren't you on RCMB with another one of your "Exclusives," hinting that Bolden was about to commit to Sparty the week of MSU camp? Bolden and Gardner said "Fuck off Dantonio" so he went and got Boisture--his THIRD choice, turd. Good luck with that one.

PLEASE don't give anyone "Hill over White" fag breath. ZOMG you have got to be kidding! Hill is a Sparty because White lagged--didn't want to go there. These rankings so far are barf. Tell me: Was it the same guy who ranked William Campbell as the 12th best player in the state of Michigan last year? Take a look at Ricardo Miller: He hasn't played a down of football in Michigan yet--and he's in at #3? Have these guys even seen him?

And they are pre-Elite 11 camp, where Boisture finished last of 12 quarterbacks who participated. Holy Shit you Sparties provide the intranets with tons more garbage than even Michigan fans do, and that's saying something.

Weren't you on RCMB with another one of your "Exclusives," hinting that Bolden was about to commit to Sparty the week of MSU camp? Bolden and Gardner said "Fuck off Dantonio" so he went and got Boisture--his THIRD choice, turd. Good luck with that one.
Hill is better than White. I hate to say it, but Hill seems to have the same skill set as Mike Hart. What I am happy to say is that Hill seems to be a much better kid than Hart. White is a classic tweener. Too small to be an effective RB and too small too be a real WR. But still talented enough to play and do some good things.. He`ll be a fine slot receiver/scat back for UM, but thats it.

As far as ready to come in and play in their respective situations, Gardner and Bolden are better than Boisture. As far as having an NFL career at QB, I`d say Boisture, Bolden, Gardner-in that order.

PLEASE don't give anyone "Hill over White" fag breath. ZOMG you have got to be kidding! Hill is a Sparty because White lagged--didn't want to go there. These rankings so far are barf. Tell me: Was it the same guy who ranked William Campbell as the 12th best player in the state of Michigan last year? Take a look at Ricardo Miller: He hasn't played a down of football in Michigan yet--and he's in at #3? Have these guys even seen him?

And they are pre-Elite 11 camp, where Boisture finished last of 12 quarterbacks who participated. Holy Shit you Sparties provide the intranets with tons more garbage than even Michigan fans do, and that's saying something.

Weren't you on RCMB with another one of your "Exclusives," hinting that Bolden was about to commit to Sparty the week of MSU camp? Bolden and Gardner said "Fuck off Dantonio" so he went and got Boisture--his THIRD choice, turd. Good luck with that one.

Ok, first of all...I'm going to take Rivals over you. Yes, they actually do see the kids. That is why some go unranked for a long period of time until they can evaluate the kid. Hill and White are so close in ranking I don't care, I'm just pointing out that you speak like what you say is fact, when it is actually the opposite. Is it the same guy that had Campbell 12th? No, he had him #1. Feel stupid yet? I love how you just make shit up, Hill is a Spartan because his skill set fits their offense and he is going to be a return man.

Here is another thing that is making you look stupid, they don't have places at the Elite 11 retard. "He finished 12th." Do you know how uninformed you look. They have individual competitions in various areas of qb play, like strongest arm, accuracy, etc. The coaches might also say who they believe is most ready or a writer might give his opinion based on observing. The camp is designed for training and improvement, this isn't the fucking NFL Quarterback Challenge douche. He might have finished last in one of those things or have the worst combined score in the actual comps, but they didn't walk up to Boisture and say, well you finished last at camp. The skills games they play are about 5% of what takes place. It's comical what you post.

Ricardo Miller, they have him at #3 because he was evaluated before moving to Michigan this week. So they know where he fits in. You seriously need an education on this stuff before you post.

Did I post that Bolden was going to commit? Yup. Did he? YES. So fuck off. Love how you play it up like we got the third best guy when he's ranked above the other two. Who really gives a shit anyways, they are all Elite 11. I'm just glad that ours can spend three years fine tuning his skills because we have two more Elite 11 qbs in front of him. Wish you were so fortunate? You see, we aren't so ignorant to rip Gardner, great talent. It's pathetic that you rip an Elite 11 qb like Boisture for not being ready right now. Why should he be unless he's trying to go Taint and have to start his first game?

Boom Roasted

OMG

Baker is a fraud, through and through.

Anyway, the Big Dantonio got the Cold Shoulder from another guy Baker probably had pegged for MSU.

Tony Jones goes to Northworstern. This is another case of the state of Michigan getting greener, I suppose.

Dantonio is nothing but a putz.

Boisture, the THIRD OPTION for even DingDong--a laugh riot. I heard he has appendicitis.

OMG

Baker is a fraud, through and through.

Anyway, the Big Dantonio got the Cold Shoulder from another guy Baker probably had pegged for MSU.

Tony Jones goes to Northworstern. This is another case of the state of Michigan getting greener, I suppose.

Dantonio is nothing but a putz.

Boisture, the THIRD OPTION for even DingDong--a laugh riot. I heard he has appendicitis.

Who is the fraud, everything you posted was wrong. And you are wrong again. Buk predicted Jones to MSU. You can't get anything right. You were owned, walk away with your tail between your legs.

what do you get for owning zip?

Who is the fraud, everything you posted was wrong. And you are wrong again. Buk predicted Jones to MSU. You can't get anything right. You were owned, walk away with your tail between your legs.


I'm not wrong about Boisture being the #3 guy for Dantonio, and Gardner IS a beter prospect than Boisture--no doubt about it.

As for Hill--I like bukdow saying Austin White, at 6'0 and about 190 is "too small"--yet Hill comes in at 5'6 and is NOT too small?

Zowie, Baker, when UM PWNS MSU the next four years, that will be all the satisfaction I need. Not worrying about a scrawny message board wussbag like yourself at all. A guy who gets all his shit wrong and was dissed badly by his fellow Sparties on RCMB.

And we will always have Keef Nichol's Bad Arm Report to engrave on your bust for the Doofus Hall of Fame induction tha awaits you.

I'm not wrong about Boisture being the #3 guy for Dantonio, and Gardner IS a beter prospect than Boisture--no doubt about it.

As for Hill--I like bukdow saying Austin White, at 6'0 and about 190 is "too small"--yet Hill comes in at 5'6 and is NOT too small?

Zowie, Baker, when UM PWNS MSU the next four years, that will be all the satisfaction I need. Not worrying about a scrawny message board wussbag like yourself at all. A guy who gets all his shit wrong and was dissed badly by his fellow Sparties on RCMB.

And we will always have Keef Nichol's Bad Arm Report to engrave on your bust for the Doofus Hall of Fame induction tha awaits you.

Define better prospect. Who has the better chance at an NFL career? "Athletic" qbs sure have worked out well in the NFL haven't they? Vick? Young? I'll take the 6'5" kid with the cannon arm. I'd rather have my running backs running with the ball. History has proven this works out better. But there you go posting like your opinion is the truth again, what a joke. The 45 year old geek from WTF sure is the talent scout. LOL

So UM is going to pwn MSU eh? Loooooove that you are saying that. When was I dissed on the RCMB, you post my name on there and you will get dozens upon dozens of people backing me. I have no idea what you are talking about. Anytime anyone says something negative toward my opinion whatsoever, you'll find 4-5 people come to my defense right away. So no clue.

Nichol thread, happened exactly the way I originally posted. It was second hand info from cous who was on the phone with him. Not embarrassed nor do I back away from it one bit. I clearly posted it was second hand stuff. Tucker on the other hand, I'll put my savings on it. And to this day that is still by far the most viewed thread on this site. 20k...count em.

not be a dick, but...

a)


And to this day that is still by far the most viewed thread on this site. 20k...count em.

actually, its not even the most viewed thread on the first page of the ncaa forum.

b)

you post my name on there and you will get dozens upon dozens of people backing me.

do these dozens and dozens of people know that sometimes you like to create extra accounts and post under another name so someone agrees with you? how do we know you dont just have dozens and dozens of accounts over there?

Define better prospect. Who has the better chance at an NFL career? "Athletic" qbs sure have worked out well in the NFL haven't they? Vick? Young? I'll take the 6'5" kid with the cannon arm. I'd rather have my running backs running with the ball. History has proven this works out better. But there you go posting like your opinion is the truth again, what a joke. The 45 year old geek from WTF sure is the talent scout. LOL

So UM is going to pwn MSU eh? Loooooove that you are saying that. When was I dissed on the RCMB, you post my name on there and you will get dozens upon dozens of people backing me. I have no idea what you are talking about. Anytime anyone says something negative toward my opinion whatsoever, you'll find 4-5 people come to my defense right away. So no clue.

Nichol thread, happened exactly the way I originally posted. It was second hand info from cous who was on the phone with him. Not embarrassed nor do I back away from it one bit. I clearly posted it was second hand stuff. Tucker on the other hand, I'll put my savings on it. And to this day that is still by far the most viewed thread on this site. 20k...count em.


I am concerned about who will have the better chance with his college team. And that is Gardner, by a mile. Boisture's "cannon arm" had him the 12th best quarterback at the Elite 11. Rivals can worry and rate kids based on pro potential. That's for them to decide, and it might be why the type of recruit DickRod goes for is rated lower.

Either way, if you want to get excited about pro potential, go right ahead. It's the college game I think about. Couldn't give a darn about what a kid does in his post-MEEEEECHIGAN career.

B-diddy just won the thread

do these dozens and dozens of people know that sometimes you like to create extra accounts and post under another name so someone agrees with you? how do we know you dont just have dozens and dozens of accounts over there?

I would like you to search out Knockout posts. You'll see I was trying to be 1)ridiculously over the top 2)trying to instigate 3)thought it would be hilarious to hype DrTre because I thought Jethro for one was going to figure out it was me in a matter of days

You guys were so infuriated by it, it cracks me up. Read one of those ridiculous posts, how could you not laugh at how over the top it was. No real person could be that crazy, well..zip i guess.

I am concerned about who will have the better chance with his college team. And that is Gardner, by a mile. Boisture's "cannon arm" had him the 12th best quarterback at the Elite 11.

According to Trieu:

Boisture (stock even): "Once Boisture is able to get into college and gets some coaching, he will really begin to capitalize on his potential. He has great height and a strong, accurate arm. All the things he needs to work on just have to do with development. He has to keep getting bigger and stronger, and he needs to work on some of the finer points of the position, like making reads and knowing where to go with the ball. His ceiling is very high and he's a guy who I think will redshirt a year and then begin to push for playing time."

ESPN:

There were seven prospects who were no-brainers: Phillip Sims (Chesapeake, Va./Oscar Smith), Blake Bell (Wichita, Kan./Bishop Carroll), Joe Boisture (Saline, Mich.), Barry Brunetti (Memphis, Tenn./University), Jake Heaps (Sammamish, Wa./Skyline), Jesse Scroggins (Long Beach, Calif./Lakewood) and Austin Hinder (Steamboat Springs, Colo.).


Boy this kid sounds like crap, Gardner by a "mile."

If Storm Johnson choses the Spartans, I would be very uneasy as a fan of another BT team.

Can you imagine Storm and Rock running the ball, could you have cooler tailback names?

If Storm Johnson choses the Spartans, I would be very uneasy as a fan of another BT team.

Can you imagine Storm and Rock running the ball, could you have cooler tailback names?
From what I understand, Johnson is quite over-rated.

rumor has it big blue picked up the talbott twins today. 3* cb and dt.

If Storm Johnson choses the Spartans, I would be very uneasy as a fan of another BT team.

Can you imagine Storm and Rock running the ball, could you have cooler tailback names? How about Butch Manly? Or Rock Hardson? Oh man, I'm gonna invent payers and carve a stadium out of wood and little players and move them around and have them all KILL Tate Forcier! Yaaay!
What? Oh man! No MOM! I do NOT want to take a bath!

I was waiting for someone to address that post. Shoulda known that Zip wouldn't disappoint.

I'll be curious to see if any of the current Michigan commits rethink things after the scandal. Sounds like things are just peachy in AA, I know I'd be signing up for that shit. You work your ass off for 12 hours a day for 3 wins and a loss to Toledo.

I'll be curious to see if any of the current Michigan commits rethink things after the scandal. Sounds like things are just peachy in AA, I know I'd be signing up for that shit. You work your ass off for 12 hours a day for 3 wins and a loss to Toledo.

I bet they do! At the least this should push a few '10-'11 recruits into camp green!!!

Rivals updated their rankings and Devin Gardner is now the #1 QB in the country and the #53 player overall. Nice.

http://michigan.rivals.com/viewrank.asp?ra_key=2369

I'll be curious to see if any of the current Michigan commits rethink things after the scandal. Sounds like things are just peachy in AA, I know I'd be signing up for that shit. You work your ass off for 12 hours a day for 3 wins and a loss to Toledo.


Fremont (Ohio) Ross cornerback Greg Brown picked up a couple verbal offers from colleges this summer, and on Wednesday he received his first official offers.

"I just got Michigan State's and Michigan's today and I'm waiting on one from Oregon," Brown reported. "They sent it via fax."

After receiving a verbal offer from the Michigan coaching staff in June, the 5-10, 180-pound Brown named the Wolverines his leader. Now that he has the official offer in his hand, though, Brown may look to take that interest further.

"I'm thinking about going to Michigan. I just like the relationships with the coaches," he said. "I've got to call Coach [Rich] Rodriguez today and I think I am [going to commit]."

Apparently not, and new guys are signing up.

Just goes to show ya, not everyone is like Baker, who would have been the guy who dressed up as a woman to get on one of the Titanic's lifeboats, and in the process pushing a real woman and her baby over the side of the ship and into the frigid waters of the unforgiving Atlantic Ocean.

Just goes to show ya, not everyone is like Baker, who would have been the guy who dressed up as a woman to get on one of the Titanic's lifeboats, and in the process pushing a real woman and her baby over the side of the ship and into the frigid waters of the unforgiving Atlantic Ocean.

Blah blah blah not even entertaining

Michigan got the first commitment of 2011: Greg Brown of Ohio. Wait til that fucker sees the practice schedule! HAHAHAHLOLZ.

i know there were about 50 hs prospects at the game today. if they wanted a chance to experience michigan football, they got it.

'uh yea kid, this is what its like every week...'