View Full Version : OGT: UM vs. UW
bukdow 09-25-2008, 12:06 PM I know many view this as a possible upset game. I don`t think so. Although UM did show some offensive life against ND, UW`s defense is not ND`s defense. As of now, UM is pretty one-dimensional (i.e. the passing game is lacking) and UW is a decent run stopping team. If UW can get pressure on the QB, it could lead to a long day in the form of turnovers for UM.
UM`s defense is coming around and is a fairly sound unit. However, it doesn`t get any support from UM`s offense and UW will run the ball and eat up clock which will, in turn, wear down UM`s defense.
UM is just not good enough on both sides of the ball to win this game. UW 23 UM 13.
Glenn 09-25-2008, 12:34 PM Wisco by 21.
Michigan may not hit double digits.
Moodini31 09-25-2008, 03:39 PM Bucky in a tight one.
UW-24
UM-20
Jethro34 09-25-2008, 05:52 PM I think UM's passing game is better than it gets credit for. In the last game, Threet finally showed some touch, in spite of the fact that he was throwing in the type of rain that contributed to a combined 13 of 49 performance in EL from the QBs, one of whom had completed 21 of 34 the previous week. Don't give MSU's D all the credit for that. The rain was crap.
We'll see if Threet still has good touch on a ball when the rain isn't helping to keep it from going 4 yards over a WR's head. IF that happens, one dimensional isn't true anymore. That's why the game could, potentially, be interesting.
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-25-2008, 10:21 PM I'm going on Saturday, and for the record, I've never seen UM lose at the Big House.
Of course I've only seen them play Minny, NW, Indiana, and Utah (4 yrs ago)...but still...
I'm a good luck charm!
UPSET!
Tahoe 09-26-2008, 12:11 AM We'll see how RR wants to attack the big boys from the B10.
If we make a game out of this, it'll be due to RR.
MoTown 09-26-2008, 08:46 AM It looks like UxKa will have bragging rights again this year...
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-26-2008, 03:20 PM and UW will run the ball and eat up clock which will, in turn, wear down UM`s defense.
bukdow, Michigan's run defense is 8th in the nation and 1st in the Big Ten.
PJ Hill has never played well Vs. Michigan (5 car, 14 yds last year and 20 car, 54 yds in 2006).
If Wisconsin's gonna "eat up clock" they're going to have to complete some passes.
Zip Goshboots 09-27-2008, 11:08 AM Tough game to call. Wisconsin has beat up on their usual shit, but they will definitely NOT have any surprises today. Their QB situation is a bit fluid.
I don't know if UM can generate a pass rush against these guys, it hasn't exactly been a stellar group of defensive linemen so far.
UM has shown steady improvement, and they just can't beat themselves.
But yeah, Glenn is prolly right. Wisonsin by twenty.
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 03:54 PM Yea Rich, not crazy about that up the middle play just yet.
Jethro34 09-27-2008, 03:56 PM ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!
I can't take this much longer. This rebuilding crap SUCKS!
Our offensive line is filled with crap. Threet has no time to do anything, then when he does get a throw off he's back to pre-Notre Dame game massive overthrows.
AND CAN SOMEONE FUCKING RETURN A KICKED BALL WORTH A SHIT?
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:01 PM Our D is going to be worn out by the end of the day.
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:21 PM re: rebuilding
I didn't think it was going to be this bad, where when our Offense gets back to the line of scrimmage, its considered a success.
And why did the refs blow the whistle on that punt?
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:24 PM r u effin kiddin me?
Jeez oh petes, this is ugly
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:26 PM He was out of bounds by the time he had possession.....
^ should be the call
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:34 PM It was and we end up fumbling again anyway. Oh these dog gone guys.
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 04:44 PM Another fumble. I think I'd rather be at the dentist.
Jethro34 09-27-2008, 04:48 PM Dwayne Wade should play for UM. With the number of turnovers each has, it would be a match made in heaven.
Oh wait, Wade can score too, we need someone that has turnovers and doesn't score.
shags 09-27-2008, 04:49 PM I think Michigan needs to spend the entire week of practice (and longer if necessary) on how to hang on to the ball. Do nothng else until you KNOW they won't fumble again.
shags 09-27-2008, 05:07 PM This has been the most inept, incompetent offensive half of football I've ever seen in my life.
Everyone knew Michigan would struggle this season, but you hope to see progress. Michigan has taken some GIANT steps backwards. Granted, Wisconsin has a very good (if not great) defense, but this is ridiculous.
If this keeps up, Michigan may not win another game the rest of the season.
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 05:09 PM Because you are rebuilding, doesn't mean you have to fumble the ball. I'm not sure what's going on with these guys.
Glenn 09-27-2008, 05:16 PM It's tempting to start losing faith in RR, but sometimes you just have to bite the bullet and know that it's going to get better.
I'll give him 2 years to turn it around with these kids.
Vinny 09-27-2008, 05:49 PM This is painful to watch so far.
Granted they just got a TD, but really I didn't know UM was this bad this year.
Vinny 09-27-2008, 06:18 PM Perfect call right there against the blitz.
MoTown 09-27-2008, 06:36 PM Holy shit.
CindyKate 09-27-2008, 06:36 PM so, the weasels might actually win this thing?
Btw, I went to both UM and UW, FYI.
MoTown 09-27-2008, 06:36 PM Granted they just got a TD, but really I didn't know UM was this bad this year.
Thank you.
Vinny 09-27-2008, 07:00 PM Thank God Wil went to the game.
shags 09-27-2008, 07:08 PM This has been the most inept, incompetent offensive half of football I've ever seen in my life.
Everyone knew Michigan would struggle this season, but you hope to see progress. Michigan has taken some GIANT steps backwards. Granted, Wisconsin has a very good (if not great) defense, but this is ridiculous.
If this keeps up, Michigan may not win another game the rest of the season.
And they didn't. Unbelievable. Wow, just wow.
All things considered, this is one of the most satisfying wins I've had as a Michigan fan in the last 10 to 12 years.
lospistones 09-27-2008, 07:12 PM I am an epic douchebag for leaving this game at halftime.
Some game. Glad I could watch it in a living room with Michigan fans this time.
Aside from Michigan winning it Wisconsin should absolutely fire their idiot offensive co-ordinator. What a moron. If he tries to run the ball more at the end of first half and sustain drives and work for touchdowns, Wisconsin's up by over 25 at the half and Michigan's D (great game) would have been even more tired. And with 5 minutes to go, 3 timeouts and the clock stopping every first down he decides to go with 4 receiver sets and long balls (pass-wacky as Espn's TMQ calls it)? His crappy play calling was as much a factor as everything else in this game.
Jethro34 09-27-2008, 08:01 PM Seriously, had I been just an average fan I promise I would have turned off the game and taken a nap near the end of the 1st half. Instead, I took a shower at halftime, made some nachos, put on a different MICHIGAN shirt (superstition) and enjoyed something I never could have seen coming.
This win just might have been the difference for the entire season. Had the horrible play continued, I was ready to predict that win win MAYBE one or two more games the rest of the year. Now, I'm feeling like we can be at least competitive in all but 2-3 games. We still may not finish at or above .500, depending on injuries or how often we can see the offense we saw in the 2nd half, but the season certainly has new life now. 1-0 in the Big Ten sounds pretty good right now.
My biggest question = is there a reason Wisconsin didn't use Clay more? His first touch went for 46 yards, his 2nd (on the following play) was the only TD the team scored in the first 58 minutes. The box score shows he had one more carry, but I must have missed an injury or other reason why he wouldn't have had more touches.
Jethro34 09-27-2008, 08:03 PM Does anyone have access to a list of recruits that were there on visits, both official and unofficial?
Vinny 09-27-2008, 08:12 PM Dwayne Wade should play for UM. With the number of turnovers each has, it would be a match made in heaven.
Oh wait, Wade can score too, we need someone that has turnovers and doesn't score.
Joey Harrington?
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 08:48 PM I am an epic douchebag for leaving this game at halftime.
Are you friggin kidding me? We won?
OMFG! TIVO.
I went and worked for a while I was so pissed.
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 09:18 PM Perfect call right there against the blitz.
I think it was an audible, right?
Tahoe 09-27-2008, 09:21 PM Holy crap, I'm seriously lol right now at that 'convoy' Greisies word on that pic for a TD. They were not going to be denied.
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-27-2008, 09:27 PM Greatest football game I've ever been to. The guy next to me left after the 3rd quarter, and the people in front of me left at halftime.
The atmosphere in the 4th was simply electric, perfect weather, and a big time W vs. a top 10 team.
Jonas Mouton was a freak on defense, he made plays all over the place. It's about time he's started to play like the 5 star he was coming out of HS.
Go Blue!
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-27-2008, 09:27 PM Does anyone have access to a list of recruits that were there on visits, both official and unofficial?
Per GBW
This Sept 27 weekend, Wisconsin game.
(1) Confirmed official visit - he's in town: S.C. OL Quinton Washington from Saint Stephen. Scout.com's #146 Southeast Rising-senior. The instate schools (USC, Clemson) perhaps lead, but he wants to visit NC-State and Maryland besides U-M.
(2) Confirmed official visit - arriving today: Pahokee (SE Fla, N of Miami) commit-LB Brandin Hawthorne {6-1, 195 ... with official visits to Pitt and Iowa State Oct. 11}.
(3-4) confirmed visit, unofficials. U-M's newest commit Det. S/Ath. Thomas Gordon (6-0, 200) from Cass Tech. and teammate commit RB/Slot Teric Jones (6-0, 190) ... we'll look for Big Will and Dior Mathis as well.
(5) unofficial visit: U-M LB commit Jordan Barnes
(6) might visit: instate Sr. DE Dylan Farrington (6-5, 225) from Adrian ... Trieu's #19 instater.
(7) unofficial visit: Inkster Junior QB Devon Gardner (6-5, 200), Trieu's #2 instate Jr.
(8) unofficial visit: Jr. instate WR Jeremy Jackson (6-2, 190) from A2 Huron, Trieu's #9 instate Jr.
(9) Also expected: Jr. instate RB Austin White (6-0, 190), from Livonia Stevenson, Trieu's #1 instate Jr.
(10-11) Confirmed visits: Jr. instate DE William Gholston (6-7, 245), from Detroit Southeastern, Trieu's #5 instate Jr. ... with his teammate DL Jonathan Hankins (6-3, 310), Trieu's #13 instate Jr.
(12) Also expected: Jr. Ohio DE Darryl Baldwin (6-6, 250) from Solon.
(13) unofficial visit: Instate Jr. LM Dionte Savage (6-5, 320) from Flint Southwestern. He is Trieu's #7 instate junior.
xanadu 09-28-2008, 02:04 AM After the first half, I was just hoping that u-m would top nd's win total from last year. I had to run and get some stuff from my office after u-m punted at 19-7 and was absolutely shocked to come home and see the celebration after the int return. I'd be surprised if wisc finishes in the top 20, but still a great win. I still think they'll lose by 20+ at osu/psu, but they should at least have at shot at the rest, making 7 wins a possibility. I was never so relieved as to see threet cover up with 2 arms after the 50 yard gallup. i had visions of fumble #15 or whatever it would have been. 7 wins including sparty and the season would be an unmitigated success. it's funny, but i feel like bielema is taking over lloyd's big 10 mantle of turning sure wins into close losses. also, imo i don't think mcguffie is cut out to run up the middle in the b10, at least this year. give it to minor or grady instead, and use mcguffie on the edge. also i think they need to look downfield more since those quick hitters aren't fooling anyone early in the game.
Jethro34 09-28-2008, 08:20 AM I think McGuffie would be capable if the line was. Most of those attempts up the middle, he was met 2 yards deep by three Badgers. I'm not sure anyone could turn that into positive yardage. I hope our line can improve as much in one year as ND's has.
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-28-2008, 12:42 PM Also Jethro, Tom said on GBW that Will Campbell was also at the game for an unexpected, unofficial visit with Thomas Gordon. He said that Big Will was decked out in Michigan gear and the win made an impact on him big time...
I mean, with Will seeing how much Mike Martin got to play, and with both Will Johnson & Terrance Taylor graduating, how is this not the perfect fit.
I think he knows it, and the insiders at scout seem to think there's no way in hell he'll pick anybody other than Michigan. Especially since he wants to enroll in January.
Tahoe 09-28-2008, 02:25 PM I think I've finally found a replay of the game. 614 DirecTV at noon, 3est.
I tivo'd the game but the game ran about an hour longer than the 3:30 end time on the programing thing guide thing.
So I'm hoping to catcht the 4th quarter today.
Tahoe 09-28-2008, 09:25 PM That ^ didn't work. I still haven't seen the 4th quarter.
I'd appreciate any info if anyone knows of a replay coming up.
xanadu 09-28-2008, 09:33 PM it's on espnu tomorrow @ 1pm est, but i don't know how if that translates to the west coast.
Tahoe 09-28-2008, 10:22 PM ^ For some reason, on DirectTV's guide, all they say is To Be Announced. So I never know what game is coming on. So I have to go there at the start of every friggin game to see who's playing.
There is a game coming on at 1pm tomorrow, but it says TBA again.
Thanks, and I'll definately check it out.
Wilfredo Ledezma 09-28-2008, 10:31 PM just download it on torrentz or mgovideo.com
xanadu 09-29-2008, 12:24 AM ^ For some reason, on DirectTV's guide, all they say is To Be Announced. So I never know what game is coming on. So I have to go there at the start of every friggin game to see who's playing.
There is a game coming on at 1pm tomorrow, but it says TBA again.
Thanks, and I'll definately check it out.
fyi, check west coast sched
http://sports.espn.go.com/espntv/espnGuide
Tahoe 09-29-2008, 11:50 AM just download it on torrentz or mgovideo.com
I could do that while I wait for the replay but I'm old, I want to see in on the 60".
Tahoe 09-29-2008, 11:55 AM I never thought to look at ESPN's schedge instead of just checking DTV.
I'm recording the 10am show that just says, TBA. Hopefully its UofM.
thx again, See now thats some reaching across the aisle.
Tahoe 09-29-2008, 04:54 PM I'm finally finishing watching the 4th. I can't believe that dumbass Badger lined up in the wrong spot again on that 2pt conversion play.
Wiskeys coach sucks! 2 Days later and he still got it wrong.
xanadu 09-30-2008, 12:34 PM I never thought to look at ESPN's schedge instead of just checking DTV.
I'm recording the 10am show that just says, TBA. Hopefully its UofM.
thx again, See now thats some reaching across the aisle.
No problem. i don't really have anything against you. i just speak out aggressively on what i believe in. go blue.
Tahoe 09-30-2008, 12:58 PM It'd be much easier over a beer than over the internet.
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