OK Tahoe, now you can tell me FOX News is more fair and balanced than the rest of the media approximately 0 more times.

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Also this thread can be used for more ridiculous FOX News propaganda.

It's on now motherfucker.

Hey, it's all in fun from this end. He can post all of the overly liberal propaganda he wants, but I have virtually limitless ammunition.

The difference between the biased right and left media, IMO, is the right's tendency to use these not-so-subtle below the belt smears and attacks...

Post the story FoxNews did about Denny Hastert. They exposed all of his shit he did behind the scenes to make himself a sweet 3 million dollar profit on a land deal.

Fair and Balanced. You said it.

That video is friggin weak btw. Teddy Kennedy, Wolf, etc calling BO Osama and stuff. Liberals are the root of all evil, I'm telling ya.

Yeah, real weak when a reporter obviously insinuates to people who don't know any better that Obama just might be a terrorist.

Yeah, real weak when a reporter obviously insinuates to people who don't know any better that Obama just might be a terrorist.

LOL

A terrorist fist jab?

Not to put too fine a point on it, but anyone who looks to fox news to inform their view of the world is pathetic.

Not to put too fine a point on it, but anyone who looks to fox news to inform their view of the world is pathetic.
Is there a way of saying this w/o losing the fact that its nothing personal against Tahoe? Because I agree, but its nothing personal against Tahoe.

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Well, I think mispronouncing things are a little different story (even though it's a pretty bad error). I'm not a big fan of Wolf anyway so it's no skin off my back.

CNN vs Fox News = Terrordome?

Its laughable that everyone does it, but FOXNEWS IS THE DEVIL. LMAO

Its laughable that everyone does it, but FOXNEWS IS THE DEVIL. LMAO
So all news is useless? cool, doesnt really make foxnews any less shitty to the fucking core. but play drag everybody down if you want, foxnews will still be at the bottom on the shit pile. :)

I know you love this stat but I'm going to say it again. FoxNews beat CNN and MSNBC combined in viewership.

Is there a way of saying this w/o losing the fact that its nothing personal against Tahoe? Because I agree, but its nothing personal against Tahoe.

But thats his intent. :)

Fox news commenter makes "funny joke" about osama, obama, we would be better off if they were both assassinated. Haven't seen that type of hillarious "joke" on any of the other networks.

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Fox News wonders if obama-couple pound is a terrorist signal or just some weird thing that black people/young people do. Interestingly, fox newscaster has seen commonplace chest bumps by football players (and executed by our benevolent president who was just supporting the troops), but has never seen the mysterious and strange fist pound before.

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I know you love this stat but I'm going to say it again. FoxNews beat CNN and MSNBC combined in viewership.

American Idol beats almost any show out there in viewers yet it still sucks ass. Just because you get people to watch it doesn't make the content good. It just means millions of people don't know they are watching crap. Bush got a 2nd term and so did Kwame. Does that make them good leaders because the public chose them?

Fox news commenter makes "funny joke" about osama, obama, we would be better off if they were both assassinated. Haven't seen that type of hillarious "joke" on any of the other networks.


Wow, that is really bad. Her retraction made it even worse. She talked about making it appear that she wished Obama harm and that wasn't the case. Um, how else can you take that?

So its up to each person to decide who they watch. I don't care what news network you watch (I take MSNBC out of news, they are entertainment, imo) you have to filter stuff out. No network is perfect but Fox is the best, imo.

You guys post these clips and honestly I don't know who half of them are half the time. So does that mean a quarter of the time I know them? :(

Well, when I watch Keith Oberman and Dan Abrams I expect them to pull the most entertaining items to show. if I'm watching primary coverage I'll put on CNN because you'll get both sides of the story (they've got supporters of every canidate on). It depends on what you are really looking for. Of course everybody can choose what they want to watch.

But, when I see crap like that there is no way I'd ever listen to a program that uses that lady ever again. It's very rare for me to watch Chris Matthews or Glenn Beck either because of some of their comments.

I watch Britt Hume. Both sides, NPR peeps and conservatives.

For entertainment, H&C sometimes, if there is something interesting legal wise, its Greta.

Bill O'Reilly has interesting topics but he won't SHUT THE FUCK up. I wanna hear what his guests have to say, but he interrupts them constantly. Even peeps he agrees with. He's an inconsiderate prick.

I go to WTF for my politics fix.

^ we need video streaming.

I know you love this stat but I'm going to say it again. FoxNews beat CNN and MSNBC combined in viewership.

There are a lot of Republicans/conservatives in this country.

Give them all a single channel that tells and shows them what they want to hear/see and they will watch.

The rest of the networks all compete for who remains.

Maybe an oversimplified example, but that's the way I see it.

If I may ramble:

The trouble is, as Tahoe put it, televised news is entertainment. They haven't the time/resources and we haven't the cares to be educated as to the facts of situations. So they substitute genuine discussion with the only thing they can muster, false angst and a desire for repair.

IMO this is where the whole "liberal slant" on news happened. The trouble with that rant is that most news worthy events during peacetime are liberal. Face fact, when they report on something it's usually troublesome, and how do we solve trouble? Research based government. Or, at least that's an intelligent answer that's hard to dispute in the wealthiest country in the world. Hurricane happens, spend some money, get someone some help. Liberal. Unsafe at any speed? Spend some money, make them safe. Liberal. Seatbelts save lives? Have the government force you to wear them. Liberal.

Now, this worked great for 100 years following the printing press. "Hey, look, there are 8 years olds smelting iron in this steel mill". Awesome, someone stops it. Trouble is, come the year 2000, not that much shit in the US is fucked up and we don't care about your country. Yeah, veterans end up homeless, the humane society is killing cats, and some fucking toy is unsafe for your baby. But how safe is it? Is it so unsafe we should spend millions of dollars to create government commissions to fix it? Is that the utilitarian answer best for our society? Could we have the government spend that money on cures for disease, or not tax an industry so they do it for us? That is a tough question my friend, not one for our forth pillar to present to us.

This was coupled with an incredible boom in coverage brought on by the expansion of cable and increased costs in producing fictional TV programing. With 10 times the news coverage and half the news, what did the outlets do? Look for extremes to capture some specialized pockets of viewers.

So in pops fox news using the "sell you some news" strategy, but without the intrinsic quest for betterment. Instead lets ask "hey, got an argument? Great, your opinion is just as valid as the next guys with no recourse for the truth." They were able to remove the nasty "let's make everything right" paradox and replace it with "lets have this guy tell us how to make everything". Then they had that guy be conservative. Well, kinda. They had him be a pseudo conservative who defended whatever line was popular with Republicans that day.

Now, that shouldn't have worked, but when you're swimming in a shallow pond everyone gets muddied up. The argument "stop being a pussy" is fine when:

A. The guy is a pussy

b. The audience hates pussies

C. The audience hates foreigners and we're discussing whether or not to fight a preemptive war on foreign soil.

Turns out half of America hates foreign pussies. Fox won all the ratings battles, and all the networks overreacted and moved in that direction looking for scraps. Then MSNBC caught on that a populist movement was rising, moved to the other extreme, and last week Olberman almost beat O'Reiley.

Now, my thermostat reads that most Americans are pissed off but don't know what to do? Question is can someone formulate a network using Fox's system but instead of political extremes, use intelligence extremes. "hey, tune into us, no one is yelling, and we're talking about the inner workings of the federal reserve".

Let's hope.

Insomnia has lead me to watch quite a bit of Fox sometimes. Well, a lot of new channels really, CNN, BBC and Sky as well. And I admit to sometimes flipping to Fox just to see what they're up to.

I believe that a lot of reporting in news can have a bias. It's hard for any journalist or editor or reporter or producer to be 100% objective. Fox however has two components to it, it is both sensationalist and partisan. And you get the feeling that it's with an agenda.

First of all Fox never fully just reports a news story IMO. Whereas in other news reporters start a story with something like "Today a man in Detroit..." Fox immediately starts with a comment "Well you would think that some people have common sense, but as we all know, there are a lot of people in (insert place) where that's just not the case..." That leads to some eyeball-popping, unbelievable remarks like the terrorist high-five (though that entire story is pretty skewed anyway).

Fox also finds some very obscure news story that will allow them to push their political agenda (and I do believe they have one). Some city counsel or school board in podunk Indiana will make some decision that Fox can run with. They will run that story every 15 minutes, of course starting off with some comment about how incredibly stupid something or someone is and then give more information about the story itself. And that's as far as it will ever go. You don't see a local reporter interview anyone at all, let alone seeing both sides of the issue. My favorite trick is that they will then find 1000 ways to interject that story, or it might be said their spin of that story, in every segment of their show. They'll be interviewing someone about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the issue and out of no where ask about the issue, phrasing the question in what I think is a very manipulative way and making for any answer other then the one they're looking for sound completely stupid, weak or anti-Amercian.

They're without a doubt the most sensationalist station in my opinion. They will run over and over stories about men who've killed their wives or teenage killing sprees and give important international issues a cursory glance at best. When a major tragedy happens somewhere else in the world you can flip through news stations and more often than not you can see every station in the world but Fox covering the story.

Why is it the most popular? Because that's what appeals to people. But don't think I believe it's a US phenomenon. Not at all. It's international and it's growing. So many people like hearing about people portrayed as idiots so they can say to themselves "what a moron", especially when it comes to politics. So many people care more about the horrible, tragic death of the person they've never met who lives in their city over the tens of thousands of horrible deaths in some place they've never even heard of. I don't think that's necessarily wrong itself, it's human nature. However I do think Fox cynically tries to exploit it as much as they can.

I guess this is my not-yet drunk rant of the night.

I shouldn't make an attempt at humor after 2 thoughtful posts by Herm and DE, but yesterday Fox had a picture of guy with his name underneath (de Cock), then a lil description of the story. I'm not kidding, it was something like this

Picture of the guy

de Cock

ABOUT FACE

De cock about face. I find that hilarious. 2nd grade humor? Maybe, don't care its funny.

^ we need video streaming.
No, no we don't. This is why. (http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11712)

I know you love this stat but I'm going to say it again. FoxNews beat CNN and MSNBC combined in viewership.

Ratings are a measure of journalism value. Hey, what was the color we're supposed use for sarcasm again?

Green.

BTW, Olbermann's beating O'Reilly in the 25-54 demographic for the first time in awhile. Overall, though, the other news networks have seen Fox's success and copied it. CNN is the crap news network now. Anyone laughing at Fox News should laugh at all the fucking broadcast media -- the suckitude is quite immense at this point. The Daily Show is better news than most of 'em, now, simply because they recognize that it's a joke.

It used to be that fighting for a shared space (the airwaves) managed as a public trust (the FCC) led to measures that insured reasonable reporting. The age of cable, satellite, and the Internet has shattered that shared space into oblivion. We now have the choice of the news we want to hear, rather than the news we ought to hear. And there's so much more noise out there that we HAVE to constrict more of what we hear just to stay sane.

Overall, though, the other news networks have seen Fox's success and copied it. CNN is the crap news network now.

Yes, they're all in a race to the bottom. Putting conservative/liberal bias aside, they spend so much of their time ratings-whoring with celebritainment stories and 24/7 of the missing woman/murder du jour it's embarassing.

Yes, they're all in a race to the bottom. Putting conservative/liberal bias aside, they spend so much of their time ratings-whoring with celebritainment stories and 24/7 of the missing woman/murder du jour it's embarassing.

Did they ever find out what happened to that blonde chick (pick one)?

Mxy, thats why I watch certain shows. I don't remember Brit Hume covering an everyday murder EVER.

If Wolf is on, I don't puke or anything like that.

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Yeah, you're all right. All the news channels suck. I just prefer watching two that "respect" my views lol.

Absolutely. Its a choice. I wouldn't call you pathetic for watching the channel of your choice ever.

I can remember both CNN and Fox News (I think it was both anyway)) talking about Natalee Holloway 24/7 back in 05. Man that was annoying.

I bet you didn't see Brit covering it much. He even said he wasn't going to cover it in a block. I'm sure in his lil quick hits I'm sure he mentioned it, but not they way the rest of Fox did. Great 24/7, H&C? Prolly but I don't watch them enough to know.

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Stay classy, San Diego.

Good lord.

Is that what the outraged liberals called BO wife? Amazing.

Is that what the outraged liberals called BO wife? Amazing.
Laugh a minute.

Is that what the outraged liberals called BO wife? Amazing.
Please tell you forgot the green and didnt just buy that bs.

So Michelle is just woman that barack knocked up. I had thought they were married, and that she was a well-accomplished woman in her own right. Now I know she is just another "hood-rat". Thank God for the fair and balanced people at fox news.

In summary: they've never seen a pound, but think it might be terrorist-related. they have heard the term baby's momma, but "don't know" what it actually means. Maybe it is time for fox news to just get to the point and start calling obama "that mysterious, muslim colored boy" or MMCB for tag lines.

Before this campaign is over we'll be nostalgic for the innocent days of terrorist fist jabs and "baby mama" shenanigans. It's going to get much, much worse.

Shit... I might want to rethink giving my friends fist bumps in public.

You don't see MSNBC or CNN insinuating that McCain has an underlying grudge to torture POW's or has heart problems or something....

FOX News = fail

^They had a laugh at him about his Beer slip up on KO, but it was just joking around. It's not like they ran a headline saying "McCain to instill prohibition" on the bottom line or something.

An ode from Nas to Fox News...



Propaganda / Visual cancer
The eye in the sky / No. 5 on the dial
Secret agenda / Frequency antenna / Dr. Mindbender
Remote control / Soul control […]
Fox has a bushy tail / And Bush tells lies and foxtrots / So I don’t know what’s real […]
(chorus)
Watch what you watchin’ / Fox keeps feeding us toxins
Stop sleepin’ / Start thinkin’ outside of the box
And unplug from the matrix doctrine

Esco's still got it.

You would get a more realistic gauge of the News by turning your TV off than watching it.
At least that way your common sense won't be perverted by a bombardment of brainwashing.

You guys are a crack up. Everything you watch is sooooooooooooo enlightening, but FoxNews is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.


WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah comes to mind.

You guys are a crack up. Everything you watch is sooooooooooooo enlightening, but FoxNews is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.


WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah comes to mind.

We don't need to go there again, do we?

Sounds like Tahoe is gonna scream louder and label all who dont see as him as whiners with an agenda against a greatness that is FoxNews. Bill O'Reilly would be proud.

^ ahhhhh.... ok. Wait, what?

You guys are a crack up. Everything you watch is sooooooooooooo enlightening, but FoxNews is BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD.


WAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah comes to mind.

When have we ever said we were enlightened by news channels? I actually think we all agreed they were all bad, it's just that FOX is the worst.

^ what an elitist

And you seem to be a fictonal author.

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The good news is that only a few media outlets have given him any attention and his new album is a bomb, a disaster, a catastrophe and he desperately wants attention... I hope I'm not a racist for pointing that out."




For the second week in a row, Nas has the number one-selling album in the country.




Hey guys, did you hear that Nas' new album is a flop. I heard it on fox news, so it must be true.


I'm not much of a nas fan personally, other than his first album. Nonetheless, sometimes fox lies are so blatant, they're good for a laugh.

Nas is what rappers should be: intelligent, political, and articulate. Instead we get stuck listening to Little Wayne.

And that says A LOT about today's youth.

Conscious rap is a lot like educational games. Everyone supports the idea in theory but nobody will buy it and play it if it doesn't deliver on entertainment value.

If Immortal Technique and Nas did an album together, I would jerk off all over myself. :mccosky:

Conscious rap is a lot like educational games. Everyone supports the idea in theory but nobody will buy it and play it if it doesn't deliver on entertainment value.

Conscious rap is also like seeing something you don't want to roll your eyes at on Fox News: Rare. LOL!!!

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Bill O'rly explains the evil plan against the White man.

Chris Wallace got all the hell over McCain's campaign manager the other day. Tough, but fair questions. The kind I wish every serrogate from every campaign would face every time they appear on a news show.

Instead we get Larry King asking if the candidate loves the country and what can be done about ____________ (insert chance to fluff).

Yes Bill, a bunch of immigrants coming here to work in the fields for $5 an hour are going to overthrow the white christian power structure.

He certainly sounds fearful of that, doesn't he?

Chris Wallace got all the hell over McCain's campaign manager the other day. Tough, but fair questions. The kind I wish every serrogate from every campaign would face every time they appear on a news show.


I saw some of that, I'm sure he was reprimanded.

Chris Wallace got all the hell over McCain's campaign manager the other day. Tough, but fair questions. The kind I wish every serrogate from every campaign would face every time they appear on a news show.
Fucka is gonna lose his job if he keeps up.

Yes Bill, a bunch of immigrants coming here to work in the fields for $5 an hour are going to overthrow the white christian power structure.

He certainly sounds fearful of that, doesn't he?
Whats funny is McCain cowardly agrees to avoid trouble. And this head strong guy could be our president? grrreeeaatttt!!!!!!

McCain's campaign has actually been hiding his cell phone on him to keep him from being influenced on his talking points. They're afraid that someone's going to get to him and get him to change his position on something.

McCain's campaign has actually been hiding his cell phone on him to keep him from being influenced on his talking points. They're afraid that someone's going to get to him and get him to change his position on something.
Well if fow news didn't report this unbiased info I don't believe you.

FoxNews Sunday, Brit Hume and Greta for legal shit are the decent programs. Can't vouch for the rest of it.

LOL@Brit Hume being Legit.

I wish some of you could debate this with Russert.

Major lol@faux news. Gets really funny at about the 2:24 mark with the "Fuck Fox News" chant.

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Fits right into their agenda, portray it as an out of control mob scene.

That dude was totally instigating that shit, and he got exactly what he wanted.

Seems very WWE-ish, maybe Vince McMahon is a consultant for Fox?

CNN is advertising on FoxNews? WTF? Does Fox advertise on CNN?

Major lol@faux news. Gets really funny at about the 2:24 mark with the "Fuck Fox News" chant.

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Must be from the 10, or so, peeps left that don't watch Fox.

Must be from the 10, or so, peeps left that don't watch Fox.

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Make it 12. In all fairness though, MSNBC and CNN are unwatchable fluff. Not as bad as the corrosive bullshit and lies Fox provides but still pretty thin stuff to sustain a news diet on. Relying on any of the 24 hour news channels will give you info scurvy.

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Swami is worth 2. He's that big of a deal. :)

Seriously, I don't watch CNN enough to know if Fox advertises there. CNN has been running ads all day on Fox.

Can any of you CNN sheep answer that?

Seriously, I don't watch CNN enough to know if Fox advertises there. CNN has been running ads all day on Fox.

Can any of you CNN sheep answer that?

CNN isn't great, it's just better than Fox News, by a lot. CNN is like piss beer (Budwiser) and Fox News is actually straight up piss.

Interesting montoge of Fox News spreading Bush's crap and the polls that show they bought it.

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Slip of the toungue, or intentional?

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In the spirit of Geerussell's find can we change the title of this thread to Fuck Fox News?

CNN isn't great, it's just better than Fox News, by a lot. CNN is like piss beer (Steel Reserve 211) and Fox News is actually straight up piss.
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CNN isn't great, it's just better than Fox News, by a lot. CNN is like piss beer (Budwiser) and Fox News is actually straight up piss.

But do you know if Fox advertises on CNN?

Or do you care?

Or do you care?

No, I don't care. If CNN advertises on Fox News how is that a negative? It means they are trying to pull some of the sheep out of the darkness.

Who said anything about being a negative? It was just a question.

You libs are so sensitive about stuff...or should I use geeRussels line...WOW, I hit a nerve.

Who said anything about being a negative? It was just a question.

You libs are so sensitive about stuff...or should I use geeRussels line...WOW, I hit a nerve.

Why would you ask the question 3 TIMES if you were not trying to make a point?

Cuz I was seriously wondering. I admit I do what Glenn does sometimes as far as not clicking on links, not watching certain shows, etc, but if FoxNews is paying CNN to advertise, then to hell with my practice of dcl stuff.

I don't watch much CNN, but I haven't seen any Fox News ads on there when I have watched (if you really do want to know).

I actually watch more Fox News than I do CNN, for the same reason I occasionally listen to Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity. I like to hear what "the other side" is saying.

One could even assume that people like me are the ones that CNN is targeting when they advertise on Fox.

edit: and Tahoe, I almost always click on "news" links (even if I have joked and said that I don't), just to be more informed

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Well to seriously answer then, I've never seen a Fox News commercial on CNN (or a MSNBC one for that matter either). Doesn't mean it never happens. I really only watch Anderson Cooper once and a while (like probably once or twice a week, and not the entire show). I get most of my news from browsing online and don't watch much TV news (except for Olberman and Abrams sometimes).

I did watch a considerable amount of CNN during the primary season though (on the Tuesday's). So, I am very familiar with their analysts, who I like and don't like, etc. But as far as watching CNN for hours I don't so I couldn't tell you about the advertising really.

When I was young, TV went off the air. You got that last late night movie and that was it. So when CNN came along, it was great. Then ESPN, etc. CNN had to have had 100% of the market. I hope CNN never goes away or anything like that, for that reason alone.

When I was young, TV went off the air. You got that last late night movie and that was it. So when CNN came along, it was great. Then ESPN, etc. CNN had to have had 100% of the market. I hope CNN never goes away or anything like that, for that reason alone.

They might need to reinvent themselves to stay relevant, IMO.

They are being niched out by Fox News, MSNBC, etc.

CNN tries to stay independent in their analysis, but that doesn't appear to be what people really want these days.

I don't think any of them are really "independent" in their analysis anymore.

They're all part of various corporate empires with ratings and other agendas.

On the lol@fnews front, these fags are still showing their stupid fucking set out in Denver, like I give a shit. They're so proud. Hey Douchebags, the Convention is almost over.

I don't think any of them are really "independent" in their analysis anymore.

They're all part of various corporate empires with ratings and other agendas.

I think they are "trying" to be independent as their niche.

Every other sentence out of Lou Dobbs' mouth, for example, is "we'll look at this from an independent viewpoint". I've seen other talking heads say similar things. I think they are trying to brand "independent" where they can.

On talk radio they are ripping Fox News because they showed only ugly black people at the Michelle speech the other night. They would also cut away to anyone that appeared to be not looking at the stage. Clearly they were trying to portray a lack of interest, or that Obama is really only capturing a limited voting base. It would be nice if a "News" station actually tried to report on what happened instead of sending propaganda messages.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=87155&title=news-id-like-to-f@#k

nice one. These dumb bitches will report anything.

Damn! I almost posted last week about how Fox's female anchors certainly help its ratings.

Damn! I almost posted last week about how Fox's female anchors certainly help its ratings.

ha, that makes two of us. That one brunette they have on there all the time is pretty fucking sexy.

Wow...Wolfson just fired back at the former Sportscaster and Mathews, saying "I'll never be lectured by those 2 on how to be a good Democrat. I spent my life supporting Dems and those 2 have ripped Dems" Then he ripped NBC saying something about how terrible that 'news' organization has become.

I love these lil dustups.

I'm sorry GD, but MSNBC has Keith friggin Oberman as...kind of like a Tim Russert WTF? He's on right now with Brokaw and Mathews.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am surprised at that. Sorry bout that.

I'm sorry GD, but MSNBC has Keith friggin Oberman as...kind of like a Tim Russert WTF? He's on right now with Brokaw and Mathews.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am surprised at that. Sorry bout that.

You lost me.

Please clarify.

^ I think thats the reply I should be getting more often. :)

Seriously, I didn't think he got that kind of air time. I mean, he's on with the big boys, the major leagues. I thought he was more of a side show on the network. I honestly didn't know that he was that respected by MSNBC.

He pretty much runs MSNBC, AFAICT.

They limit his time on NBC, for the most part.

That's what I thought we discussed last week.

^ My bad. I thought he was more on the 'entertainment' side of MSNBC. I misunderstood.

Oh wait, what you said was more like MSNBC is more of the entertainment side (and Obie is huge over there) and NBC is news. Sorry bout the misunderstanding.

MSNBC is the low-rent side of NBC, the flip-side of CNBC, and there's heavy Microsoft involvement on the msnbc.com side. The initial idea was that the world would be online and TV news would be dead, so let's get on the net. Now, it's sort of "CNN Headline News" plus, lunching off NBC content, with a few pundits to provide some edge and ad revenues because it doesn't have distribution otherwise. The idea is to leverage existing content and a core of folks, not spend a whole lot building that into anything real. Every time MSNBC gets put in the same conversation space as CNN and Fox, it wins because they're spending so much less to be part of that conversation. One underlooked tidbit is that their web site makes as much revenue as broadcast, and is likely on a par earnings-wise with CNN and Fox's sites.

I'm sorry GD, but MSNBC has Keith friggin Oberman as...kind of like a Tim Russert WTF? He's on right now with Brokaw and Mathews.

I shouldn't be surprised, but I am surprised at that. Sorry bout that.


I was up early this morning and watched a replay of the bill clinton speech at 5:00 am. Guess who was anchoring the coverage? karl rove and hannity. They didn't feel the need to discuss the speech, rather they just said that bill clinton didn't really believe any of the things he said about obama. in fact hannity even cited an unnamed source that said bill clinton thinks obama is just a "chicago thug". Yesterday at 5 am they were playing the van sustren show that supposedly had "breaking news" that ayers had been on a non-profit board with obama. they spent 15 minutes on the story as "breaking news" and yet it was exactly the same as every other story i heard about ayers. any network that portrays ollie north as a hero (the kind that sell weapons to iran to fund pet projects of violence in central america) isn't worth a shit.

fair and balanced for the retarded

I was up early this morning and watched a replay of the bill clinton speech at 5:00 am. Guess who was anchoring the coverage? karl rove and hannity. They didn't feel the need to discuss the speech, rather they just said that bill clinton didn't really believe any of the things he said about obama. in fact hannity even cited an unnamed source that said bill clinton thinks obama is just a "chicago thug". Yesterday at 5 am they were playing the van sustren show that supposedly had "breaking news" that ayers had been on a non-profit board with obama. they spent 15 minutes on the story as "breaking news" and yet it was exactly the same as every other story i heard about ayers. any network that portrays ollie north as a hero (the kind that sell weapons to iran to fund pet projects of violence in central america) isn't worth a shit.

fair and balanced for the retarded

Wow.

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I wonder how Sarah Palin would have fared under that same line of questioning?

I'm pretty sure she would have folded like a tent because she probably knows jack shit about the middle east. It would have been all softballs though with her on Fox News.

Billy was owned. He was played like a fiddle.

Even though he was played, BO did bow down and talk tough for change. I bet BO's left wing peeps didn't like him talking about terrorists and stuff, since they don't exist according to them.

"The surge suceeded" A FIRST RIGHT THERE

And, btw, SHUT THE FUCK UP AND LET YOUR GUEST TALK YOU FUCKING ASSCLOWN!

A plan that works (in part) doesn't make it the correct plan.

Even though he was played, BO did bow down and talk tough for change. I bet BO's left wing peeps didn't like him talking about terrorists and stuff, since they don't exist according to them.



Liberals live in nyc you moron. in fact liberals live in most of the places where terrorists attack. we also lived through the anthrax attacks. we just think that gwb is a shithead, who deserves no credit for 'keeping us safe' when he was in charge during the 9/11 and anthrax attacks and then sent our troops to iraq and turned our troops into target practice by having absolutely no post-invasion plans. it seems that these troops have been the primary target of terroists since then, but i don't really see that as a positive. how many terror attacks on american soil happened under clinton's watch (by foreign agents)?

oh that's right, just one small, poorly planned attack.

You left off the part about supplying the troops with substandard equipment provided by no-bid contracts.

Oh, and McCain and Palin both hammered home that they want to privatize things more...which is more of the same crap I just mentioned.

"The surge suceeded" A FIRST RIGHT THERE
He phrased it in somewhat the same way I did awhile back. Yeah, the surge was part of what's stablized things somewhat at a military level. But, we're still spending mad money in Iraq, with no real end in sight that isn't to Iran's major advantage. That's not "victory" by any reasonable definition. We never "won" in Korea, either.

I'm glad to know that McCain thought the surge was a surefire winner:
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Davie Axelrod on FoxNews?

Barack Obama on FoxNews?

Hillary Clintno on FoxNews?

LOL @ this thread.

This is why the liberals don't like to come on FoxNews. They get exposed in agreeing with the Prez and Conservatives.




O'REILLY: But I still don't understand -- and I'm asking this as an American as well as a journalist -- how threatening you feel Iran is. See, look, if Iran gets a nuclear weapon, okay, to me, they're going to give it to Hezbollah if they can develop the technology. Why not? And so we don't have anything to do with it. So therefore, the next president of the United States is going to have to make a decision about Iran, whether to stop them militarily. Because I don't believe -- if diplomacy works, fine. But you've got to have a plan b. And a lot of people are saying, look, Barack Obama's not going to attack Iran. OBAMA: Here's where you and I agree. It is unacceptable for Iran to possess a nuclear weapon. It would be a game changer, and I've said that repeatedly. I've also said I would never take a military option off the table.
O'REILLY: But would you prepare for one?
OBAMA: Well, listen --
O'REILLY: Answer the question, Senator. Anybody can say options. Would you prepare for it?

OBAMA: Look, it is not appropriate for somebody, who is one of two people who could be the president of the United States, to start tipping their hand in terms of what their plans might be with respect to Iran.

Wh... what? No he di'nt! He didn't just say "...it is not appropriate ... to start tipping their hand" did he? There is no way I just heard him say that, because if he did he just validated the reason President Bush and the Congressional Republicans have been giving - for almost two years now - for not setting a timetable regarding withdrawal of troops from Iraq, and completely exposed as a political stunt the same timetable that he and the Democrats have been demanding.
Democrats and the anti-war left have been pointing to the President's desire not to set a timetable - and thereby to not "tip our hand" to Al-Qaeda regarding our military plans - as proof that the President and Republicans are war-mongering fascists who want to kill as many Iraqi civilians as possible so that we can expand the American Empire and grab all the Iraqi oil for ourselves... or something like that.

So you don't think there is a difference between threatening to attack and threatening to leave. We can never leave without 'tipping our hand'? you pseudo-conservatives want to dumb down everything. note that a real conservative would have never wanted to invade iraq in the first place. hence, they had to create 'neo-conservatism' to placate idiots that think "conservatives" are always right.

This is why the liberals don't like to come on FoxNews. They get exposed in agreeing with the Prez and Conservatives.
So they are supposed to be partisan? Sounds like someone else is getting exposed too.

No, it just shows that they disgree with anything the Prez does to get DK and MO.org on their side. Then when they actually have to answer a question, they get cornered.

I'm begining to see why the Dems boycotted FoxNews Dem debate. They are a bunch of pussies. :)

Are you basing this on your take, or your take via foxnews? lol..

"They talk to us one way in Scranton and the other in SF"

"They talk to us one way for Moveon and DK and the other when they are forced to answer a serious question"

"They talk to us one way in Scranton and the other in SF"
Of course, Obama said essentially the same thing on national TV on the Charlie Rose show a couple years back that he did "in private" in SF (in front of a few hundred people), and that it derives from a book called "What's The Matter With Kansas?". AFAICT, Obama was right in thinking the folks in some midwest towns are bitter and project out their economic frustrations as social issues. He oopsed on the phrasing in SF, but the sentiment was dead-on.

Fuck, I feel bitter some days.

Feeling bitter? Sounds like most of the Dems. :)

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And that's the trouble with them calling themselves "News".

I think that may be the worst news segment I have ever seen. The author talks about what Obama "needs to convince people on" and Hannity calls him names because he doesn't think Obama will. Then he sits there spewing "we" (referring to republicans) the rest of segment. Olberman definately has a liberal bias to his shows, but I've never heard one host on MSNBC refer to themselves as a democrat. Fox News makes no attempts to hear the other side of the story at all.

What a hack. He's a BO spewer posing as an author. Then he calls one of the hosts on the show names.

Good job, Sean, for exposing him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OviYjJWIYbY
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That girl is fired.

So fired.

She's got the life expectancy of a manoogian mansion stripper.

Billy C does Greta! How dare he?

Seriously, Greta has prolly done more for advancing minorities and minority rights in this country than all of us put together will do in a lifetime.

Ok, back to y'all calling FoxNews racist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OviYjJWIYbY
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Since when did Naomi Wolf become a blonde?

Billy C does Greta! How dare he?

Seriously, Greta has prolly done more for advancing minorities and minority rights in this country than all of us put together will do in a lifetime.

Ok, back to y'all calling FoxNews racist.

I don't remember anyone calling them racist.

Olberman called the Fox guy who blamed the economy on selling mortgages to minorities racist. But you know, he is.

Sean Hannity?

Neil Cavuto

I'm not a Cavuto advocate. He goes in my "change the channel" program club along with Olbermann, Glenn Beck, Greta, and Wolf

Neil Cavuto kicks ass. Olby Wan just makes shit up.

Neil Cavuto kicks ass.
so you think that he's right?

Wil would defend sarah palin walking out of a whorehouse half naked with bruises and a perverted grin. So if he doesnt endorse the cavuto, that says something.

so you think that he's right?

The only place I've seen the quote come from is that sewage pond that is Olby Wan. I wouldn't trust that guy with one penny of my money.

The only place I've seen the quote come from is that sewage pond that is Olby Wan. I wouldn't trust that guy with one penny of my money.

So MSNBC/KO doctored that video of Cavuto?

You're getting delusional, man. lol

The only place I've seen the quote come from is that sewage pond that is Olby Wan. I wouldn't trust that guy with one penny of my money.
You didnt answer the question....Again. .

So MSNBC/KO doctored that video of Cavuto?

You're getting delusional, man. lol

I didn't see it. I don't do Keith. Is it a vid of Cavuto? I'd watch that.

I thought it was a video of worstest person.

Cavuto.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/showpost.php?p=274683&postcount=34

You can see the Cavuto clip here:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200809190021

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTkqosRiyYo

LOL

That does deserve an LOL.

So typical.

BUT WHO WON IN THE TV RATINGS?!? HUH?!?

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A3BD2524FE99BD4D

http://www.break.com/index/little-bill-oreilly-tells-it-like-it-is.html

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0XnADjMjNk

Half = 6/25

I'll make a note of that, lol.

Half = 6/25

I'll make a note of that, lol.

That means the Lions are a .500+ ball club under Millen!

Ode to Sean Hannity
by John Cleese

Aping urbanity
Oozing with vanity
Plump as a manatee
Faking humanity
Journalistic calamity
Intellectual inanity
Fox Noise insanity
You’re a profanity
Hannity

Robert Gibbs is drawing rave reviews for teaching Sean Hannity an embarrasing lesson about "guilt by association".

The best part is, Hannity doesn't seem to have any idea of what Gibbs is doing to him on live TV.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgn6rjGbp0c

He called Hannity anti-semitic, only to have Alan Colmes, who's Jewish, say that he isn't anti-semitic.

I saw that interview live, Gibbs tried to avoid the Ayers connection and tried to turn the tables on Sean. Nobody thinks Sean is anti-semitic, but the Ayers question is still waiting to be answered.

Plus, newsflash, Sean Hannity isn't running for President. There's a big difference.

Perhaps it's because William "Six Degrees of Separation" Ayers thing is grossly overblown.

Oh, jeez, I must be incredibly liberal....

He called Hannity anti-semitic, only to have Alan Colmes, who's Jewish, say that he isn't anti-semitic.

I saw that interview live, Gibbs tried to avoid the Ayers connection and tried to turn the tables on Sean. Nobody thinks Sean is anti-semitic, but the Ayers question is still waiting to be answered.

Plus, newsflash, Sean Hannity isn't running for President. There's a big difference.

He was proving a point, he doesn't actually think that Hannity is anti-Semitic.

It was an exercise in the stupidity of "guilt by association".

LOL@ "still waiting to be answered".

Politics is terrible.

O'Really is 73? Damn.

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/10/fox-news-poll-obama-maintains-lead-mccain/

Billy says increased ratings for MSNBC is part of a conspiracy.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRxKDQANEnI

One of the ubiquitous blond women on Fox does her best o'reilly/hannity impression.

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As far as 'fair and balanced' goes, why wouldn't a campaign that is down 10% in the polls and launches new attacks every couple days get more negative coverage. What are the networks supposed to do? Pretend that McCain is winng 50% of the time. Pretend that McCain is right about Obama being a socialist/terrorist. A losing and negative campaign will get negative coverage.

Obama should have had his staff stop going on Fox a long time ago.

It's not like they (Obama's spokespeople) are going to change the minds of anyone watching.

I can imagine that it's difficult to let them say what they want to without challenging or disputing the facts, but they should just let them do their thing and stop adding legitimacy to them by making appearances.

Add to that the disrepectful and unprofessional manner that they conduct themselves (talking/shouting over guests, as shown here) and it would make a nice statement to just stay out of that game.

I think someone posted the utube link to the interview she did with JM's peep and said something like, she'll be looking for a job soon or something. She's always ornery. <--Grandma word. She was shitty to them too.

She's 'unfair but balanced'

http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/191280/McCainD_AZ.jpg

http://images.theage.com.au/2008/10/28/246344/palin_effigy-200x0.jpg

FoxNews doens't like this.

BTW...can't do this with BO, or the person goes to jail.

That is disgusting.

Joe The Plumber: McCain's Foreign Advisor
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eSJuWgZGYo

What's funny about that?

Seeing a Fox News anchor defend Obama against Joe The Plumber and talking about "once" he becomes president of the U.S. is downright bizarre.

Seeing a Fox News anchor defend Obama against Joe The Plumber and talking about "once" he becomes president of the U.S. is downright bizarre.

Gotcha, but actually its not 'bizarre' if you watch Fox.

Fair AND balanced....BOTH!

Shep Smith is solid. He's very make-upy and one of his shows is like shooting skeet in that it typically just hits a ton of headlines one after the other but he seems to be consistent in his open-mindedness.

The best description Joe the Plumber came from Shep Smith IMO. When it came out that Joe didn't have a plumber's license and that his first name wasn't Joe, Shep's wrap-up statement to the story was something like, "So it turns out Joe the Plumber is actually Sam the guy who occasionally works with pipes and stuff."

re: Joe the alleged plumber

The McCain campaign just gave him his own tour bus and he's making appearances in Ohio this week, by himself. He'll also get on stage with McCain later this week.

He was fielding foreign policy questions yesterday from fellow citizens (in front of cameras and reporters). One guy said that "a vote for Obama is a vote for the death of Israel" and Joe replied, "Yeah, I can agree with that."

Joe for Secretary of State?

Joe the Campaign Operative

Well, since he doesn't know how to be a plumber, he has to do something to keep busy.

He looks too buff and broad-shouldered to be a plumber.

My optimal plumber, kinda like my optimal car mechanic, is a short wiry guy, someone who can get in tight spaces. I can't imagine Joe fitting under a bathroom sink, or where the pipes are crowded in the basement. He looks a lot more like an industrial pipefitter.

He's now hired a publicist and is pursuing a country music career. Seriously.

You just can't make this shit up.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWiJSJkS48c

Fair and Balanced

They should move Cavuto to Fox Business Channel. His election coverage is sub-par.

/!\ NO ONE IN THE 2008 RACE IS CONSERVATIVE ENOUGH FOR FOX NEWS!!!! /!\

No one in the 2008 race is conervative enough for Tahoe either.

A socialist running for the Dems, or a moderate Dem posing as a Repub.

No one in the 2008 race is conervative enough for Tahoe either.

A socialist running for the Dems, or a moderate Dem posing as a Repub.

Don't forget the Socialist Sarah Palin. How much does each Alaskan get every month for doing ABSOLUTELY NUTHIN'??

Also Tahoe is extremely fair and balanced, unlike Wil

^ Can you include any of the Dems in the not-so-fair and balanced line?

Hows that Wil? I'm not giving in to peer pressure anymore, am I?

Props, Tahoe. You exorcised those demons pretty quickly.

Criticize Michael Moore all you want, this is disgusting:

During the March 16 edition of Fox News' The Live Desk, co-host Martha MacCallum claimed that "after weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune. Take a look at what was said in recent interviews this weekend." Fox News then aired clips of administration officials purportedly giving an optimistic view of the economy, which included a clip of Joe Biden stating: "The fundamentals of the economy are strong."

However, Biden did not make his remarks during an "interview" over the past weekend; Biden made his remarks at a September 15, 2008, campaign event, and, like Obama, was criticizing McCain for his remarks -- not echoing McCain.

Ledezma doesn't care.

Journalism died 16 months ago.

http://www.rapha.cc/images/products/jersey_white_collar.jpg

Not only is that disgustingly dishonest, the worst part is the people who find out about this and still go to them for their "news" every day. They flat out lie to you and yet people will still watch them anyway.

What's worse? lying, or the idiots that know they are being lied to and don't care?

Criticize Michael Moore all you want, this is disgusting:

During the March 16 edition of Fox News' The Live Desk, co-host Martha MacCallum claimed that "after weeks of economic doom and gloom, the Obama administration is now singing a slightly different tune. Take a look at what was said in recent interviews this weekend." Fox News then aired clips of administration officials purportedly giving an optimistic view of the economy, which included a clip of Joe Biden stating: "The fundamentals of the economy are strong."

However, Biden did not make his remarks during an "interview" over the past weekend; Biden made his remarks at a September 15, 2008, campaign event, and, like Obama, was criticizing McCain for his remarks -- not echoing McCain.

So whats the differnce? Are you trying to make a distinction between September and March?

There really isn't one.

LOL

And there isn't a difference between Faux News and this website. LOL

But a huge difference between sound and strong.

I'm confused.

Tahoe's posts from today make it sound like the central issue here is semantics ("sound" vs. "strong"), but from reading Hermy's info, I got the impression that Fox News deliberately fabricated a story by pulling old video from September and trying to pass it off as something that just happened.

Am I missing something? Is Tahoe completely ignoring this?

Tahoe's ass hurts from his whoopin', so now he says Sept and March are a matter of semantics (and he's just joshing, LOL).

Seriously, you don't have to go to Crazy Joe for comments like those from the Admin. The red-haired lady said it to...amongst others.

And yes, I was just 'joshing' on the Sept March thing.

I'm confused.

Tahoe's posts from today make it sound like the central issue here is semantics ("sound" vs. "strong"), but from reading Hermy's info, I got the impression that Fox News deliberately fabricated a story by pulling old video from September and trying to pass it off as something that just happened.

Am I missing something? Is Tahoe completely ignoring this?

yeah, I heard the lady specifically say "The montra over the weekend is clear looking at what was said Sunday"

That definitely means they were trying to say Biden just said it. She also said the administration was changing their tune recently.

There is no way even Tahoe can give them a pass on this one. They clearly misrepresented Biden.

I just don't know if it was intentional of a fuck up. It wouldn't be the first time a New Org just simply fucked up.

However, Biden did not make his remarks during an "interview" over the past weekend; Biden made his remarks at a September 15, 2008, campaign event, and, like Obama, was criticizing McCain for his remarks -- not echoing McCain.

I think this is the whole point: Biden wasn't even saying the line, he was quoting McCain and yet they edited the tape to make it sound like he was saying it. That's horrifying.

Christina Romer was the admin official I was trying to remember.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090315/ap_on_go_pr_wh/obama_economy

I just don't know if it was intentional of a fuck up. It wouldn't be the first time a New Org just simply fucked up.
If that was a fuck up, thats a pretty bad one. Not only did they mix up things said during a campaign VS actual time in office, but to play a clip of him mocking someone else's words (that wasn't even his opinion)...i have a very hard time thinking that wasn't intentional.

So I turned on Fox News Sunday to see "the real news" and I'm intrigued by a roundtable discussion about the media spending too much time praising President Obama about Father's Day activities. This ensues for roughly 10 minutes and then they head to commercial break.

Out of the break, we get a heartwarming Father's Day feature on John McCain. When they cut back to the studio from the pre-recorded piece, Chris Wallace has his head tilted to the side in a loving salute to the dedicated father and patriot, Senator John McCain.

If I didn't know better, I would say that Wallace wiped the tears from his eyes just in time.

Time for the Sunday Evening News, which begins with comments from, you guessed it, John McCain, on Iran.

An icon in the corner of the screen twirls (with sound effects) that reads "Test of Leadership".

Fair and balanced.

Go tax and spend yourself.

Commericial:

Tonight's guest on Hannity: John McCain!

Somebody needs to report what's going on CNN, just to balance this out a little bit.

Hannity is on on Sunday nights? Golden.

Nothing to watch if not for Mr Hannity.

More Fox News fabricating news vs. simply reporting it...

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909180037

mm;dr

I heard the GOP is ripping Beck now because he said he'd rather have Obama (and Hillery) than McCain.

I also saw the Fox News anchors are whining because Obama didn't do an interview with them because after they shunned covering him.

lol...they've been covering him, thats for sure. Not just the way he'd like.

well, I heard all of the networks had his major speech on except Fox recently.

2 different companies.

Fox News obviously had it on. The Fox channel that runs tv shows didn't cover it.

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I think it's stupid for the White House to bother going after Fox 'News' at all, but I can't believe the people who are going on real news networks saying they are not biased towards republicans.

Come on, everybody knows it's true. They are the least balanced 'news' out there by far. They are allowed to be, just don't pretend they aren't.

Their News is 'fair and balanced'

Let me ask you as a viewer. Do you think anyone watches Fox News and thinks it is actually fair and balanced?

I'm talking about competent people, not mental midgets.

Yes

Bullshit. People watch it and think "Finally, all the Republican-oriented jabber I can't hear anywhere else."

CNN IS TOO ETHICAL TO DO WHAT FOX DOES. If just the thought of some news network being less ethical than CNN doesn't make you laugh at least a little, I don't know what to tell you.

Fox News is there for two reasons: first, to promise you that the Republicans are going to actually do things that the average American sleepwalking dropout wants done (abortion, immigration, religion in schools, etc., things no one will ever do anything about); and second, to convince the same people that the things they actually are going to do are important to the average American sleepwalking dropout (financial reform, regulation, taxes). And in that way they are remarkably successful: they have a good sizable chunk of the US underclass convinced that A. "those incredibly rich investors really care about me," but also B. "whatever's in the best interests of those incredibly rich investors is also in my best interest."

Shit, if TV could sell a whole generation on the style of Members Only jackets, it can do anything!

I agree, TV sold Barack Obama to the masses (or at least State Run mediao outlets, MSNBC, NBC, CNN, etc) and what a farce he turned out to be.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Sesame-Streets-War-on-Pox-News-1518


Did muppets pave the way for the White House war against Fox News (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Americans-See-Fox-News-as-Most-Ideological-Network-1445)? As Sesame Street celebrates (http://www.theatlanticwire.com/opinions/view/opinion/Sesame-Streets-40th-Anniversary-Looking-Back-1495) its 40th anniversary, the beloved children's show is drawing fire. In a recently uncovered episode (first aired two years ago), Oscar the Grouch and his girlfriend Grunchetta appear to take a swipe at the cable news network when they call the fictional network "Pox News" a "trashy news show."

You libs teach them young. :)

As opposed to not allowing them to read.

^ I'm speechless

lol Fox News....

"Lets listen in to this moment of silence"

Hopefully that doesn't sound cold...I just thought something like 'lets join the moment of silence and remember the fallen' or something.

Sorry if I offended.

Nah, I think you were clear. Poor word choice on their part. Definitely lolable.

Those fuckers!!

http://www.sportsrumormill.com/forum/politics/18758-lol-fox-news.html

I thought only WTFDetroit loled @ fox news.

Disabling Google indexing is a truly trivial config option in a typical web server config, but Fox has to forge an alliance with Micro$oft to do this? LOL!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/a243c8b2-d79b-11de-b578-00144feabdc0,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=htt p%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fa243c8b2-d79b-11de-b578-00144feabdc0.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wwj.com%2Fpages%2F5758 581.php%3FcontentType%3D4%26contentId%3D5120323&nclick_check=1

Here I thought the robot.txt file on a server actually still did something lol

Disabling Google indexing is a truly trivial config option in a typical web server config, but Fox has to forge an alliance with Micro$oft to do this? LOL!

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/a243c8b2-d79b-11de-b578-00144feabdc0,Authorised=false.html?_i_location=htt p%3A%2F%2Fwww.ft.com%2Fcms%2Fs%2F0%2Fa243c8b2-d79b-11de-b578-00144feabdc0.html%3Fnclick_check%3D1&_i_referer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wwj.com%2Fpages%2F5758 581.php%3FcontentType%3D4%26contentId%3D5120323&nclick_check=1

Easy enough to do, but they are addicted to all the traffic google drives to their sites. They want the traffic but from a search engine that will agree to be their bitch. Microsoft might just bend over and deliver to carve out some search market share.