He will not be coaching in the Fiesta Bowl.

Tyrelle Pryor is now listing UM as one of his top schools.

Contract is reportedly 2.4 mil per year.

No news on anything else. Gives him around 10 hours to call recruits.

Got any vids or things of that nature of Tyrelle?

Pryor is a QB who can run and throw and wants to play BBall too.

Nope. Can search on youtube just as easily as I can.

Pryor is a QB who can run and throw

That's all I needed to know actually.

Someone give us the lowdown on RichR. I really don't know much about him.

http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Rodriguez

So if you weren't looking for UofM to hire a big name but an upstart coach, this would be your guy, I guess.

I don't know much about him but what I do remember about him was good. We'll see...

Dont be concerned about the spread with Mallet.

He was the OC at Tulane when Shaun "Statue" King was QB and he led the country in passing efficiency.

The spread is about spreading the defense out. There are passing spreads (Texas Tech and Purdue) and there are running teams like WVU and Illinois.

He is 44 and is 60-26 at WVU. 3 straight 10+ wins and has his team in a BCS bowl.

Art, how do you feel this will impact the "incoming" recruits and also the guys on the team?

good pick for UM.

i still think were getting les miles.

So I'm assuming Pryor had WVU as one of its top schools?

fuck a bukdow

you read my mind.

Careful, he might bring your fan status into question!

The more I read on this guy the more I like him...RR that is, not Budkow.

Zip, don't hurt my dog!

Zip will do a 180 on this guy

BTW...Budkow is prolly doing everything he can to dig up as much dirt on RR as he can. AS IF, I care.

He doesn't have to do anything to dig up any dirt. His mind is his best source.

More on Pryor...he is the number 1 overall player in the nation according to rivals, and a top 30 basketball recruit. UM has as good of a chance as any now.

Great point

Awesome.

I love the Basketball angle on this. Ya think he'd start?

im not so sure i'd be thrilled with him doubling up. if thats what it takes to bring him in, fine, but it'd be better if he didnt.

There'd be no point in playing basketball. He wants ME to watch him play doesn't he?

The recruits will love him.

We going to get rid of the slow fat bastards once he is able to bring in a real S&C guy.

He is bringing his OC and DB/RC with him. They both got on the plane with RR tonight.

Press conference tomorrow at 9 a.m.

Art...chances on TP coming to UofM??? 50/50?

Did he sign an loi to OSU? and WVU was one of his top schools?

Zip will do a 180 on this guy

Tahoe, as a lifelong Michigan fan, I have ALWAYS rooted for, and hoped for the BEST for my Wolverines.

After the Big Four (Tressel, Stoops, Meyer, and Carroll), and Miles (who I still think would have beena better fit, but now I am beginning to understand), there ain't nobody better than Rodriguez.

I just never gave him a thought because he's a WVU alum and they seemed to be taking care of him, AND he has been able to get West Virginia to the big time.

I see this as a great hire. I think he took West Virginia as far as he could, and he will take Michigan farther. He'll be recruiting the best kids to a school that they WILL consider, and he'll be able to recruit for positions and depth, unlike what he has to do at WVU.

I think we'll see a modified spread, with more passing than he does at WVU, but it be interesting to see exactly what he will do.

There wasn't a candidate mentioned that I felt good about unless that name was Les Miles. Schiano, Ferentz, Sarkisian, Peterson, Groucho Marx, Randolph Mantooth, NONE of them. But I'm HYPED about Rodriguez.

Remember that one asshole that was a Michigan fan and became a Michigan State fan? "Gip Zoshboots" I believe was his name.

yea, i think we were all getting down on this search. martin was beginning to look like a baffoon. now, you gotta say hes completely redeemed. this guy sperned alabama, but he liked michigan.

i would have loved les, but frankly, i dont think i would have been any happier with him than RR. especially if guys like terrelle pryor start coming to UM just because of him.

Cool Zip

This is a refreshing (gay term?) hire, imo. He doesn't know what off-tackle play Bo ran against OSU in 1974 that gained 13 yards for the win. He doesn't give a shit either.

He doesn't have a UofM Daddy to follow so he can be his own man. His own style, his own..whatever.

We need a change. Gone are the days of winning a NC by running the ball. And almost gone are the days where you can win the B10 running the ball.

Whether he can recruit, lead a team and all that other bullshit is yet to be determined but I like the hire based on he is NOT a guy that has some coach to live up to, but has one goal, win the NC...hopefully.

and frankly, im shocked bukdow's promise of debord being UM's coach next not happening. when has he ever been wrong?

My sources tell me Rich Rodriguez will be named the new coach.

you have no idea what bukdow let into his butthole to get that information.

Cool Zip

This is a refreshing (gay term?) hire, imo. He doesn't know what off-tackle play Bo ran against OSU in 1974 that gained 13 yards for the win. He doesn't give a shit either.

He doesn't have a UofM Daddy to follow so he can be his own man. His own style, his own..whatever.

We need a change. Gone are the days of winning a NC by running the ball. And almost gone are the days where you can win the B10 running the ball.

Whether he can recruit, lead a team and all that other bullshit is yet to be determined but I like the hire based on he is NOT a guy that has some coach to live up to, but has one goal, win the NC...hopefully.


Thats all RR is going to do, run the ball. He just does it a different way, he won't pound the ball with 2 TE, he will spread the field then run option all day long.

TP coming under 50%, just based on what I have heard, but Tony Clemons is his cousin.

Super hyped about Rodriguez, especially after reading this article from CNNSI.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/si_blogs/football/ncaa/2007/12/michigan-scores-home-run-with-rodriguez.html

A few of my favorite exerpts from the article-

How big is Rich Rodriguez to Michigan? In terms of the ramifications for both program and sport, it's college football's most significant hire since Florida landed Urban Meyer.

Michigan, one of the last bastions of smash-mouth football and 6-foot-5 pocket passers, just hired arguably the most renowned pioneer of the new-age, spread-option offense. For all those weeks of hand-wringing over Les Miles, Michigan wound up landing itself a better coach.


"Bottom line -- Michigan stepped up to the plate," said SuperPrep recruiting analyst Allen Wallace. "They've gone out and stolen one of the elite coaches in the game. If I were a Michigan fan, I'd be having a party tonight."


Some are worried Mallett may be thinking about a transer.
Also, Mallett's dad has released a statement about the hire, which isn't exactly a "ringing endorsment".

I talked to Ryan today and he's going to keep an open mind and is looking forward to hearing what coach Rodriguez's plans are," Jim Mallett told the AP. "So, we'll just have to wait and see."

Thats all RR is going to do, run the ball. He just does it a different way, he won't pound the ball with 2 TE, he will spread the field then run option all day long.

Then it'll be a different style. AND he WILL recruit players that are more athletic. Fine with me.

Mallet ran the spread option in HS. He is comfortable with the SG.

Rodriguez used Shaun King as a passer at Tulane and he led the nation in passing efficiency. It is a sham that RR doesnt pass. White is just not very good at it.

We got a new S&C guy too. WHich is as important as anything as far as I am concerned.

He's going to throw more, I think Mallett is more mobile than Henne (you wouldn't know it by looking at the two), but when the games are over, my guess is Mallett will have his passing numbers...or Pryor, or Threet or whoever the hell is the QB...

i dont think theres a question that mallett is more mobile than henne. and if hes not as clumsy as he looked with all those fumbles last year, he'll be a premier qb, id think.

that said, terrelle prior would be too good to pass up. from the reels ive seen he looks like hes vince young with a better arm. no brainer, if we can get him.

Mallett + Pryor > Leak + Tebow

Mallett + Pryor > Leak + Tebow

:cogent: , although bukdow will probably dispute...


Hoyer, Dixon > Mallett, Pryor > Leak, Tebow


no?

Mallett had a helluva arm, no? I remember seeing him bomb a few balls and they just kept going and going.

I don't think anyone knows for sure what Mallet can do. But I bet we find out.

Yeah, at Arkansas.

If he goes to Arkansas, he won't be able to play next year...

Any word on RR's new staff?

Specifically, English and DeBord.

If RR is bringing his OC, then DeBord is hopefully headed out.

Maybe he can feather dust Lloyd's new office?

The ideal situation is if he kept English, Loeffler, Campbell and Jackson. Stripling would be a possibility. Szabo hasn't impressed me much, but WVU defenses weren't terribly good either. Moeller seems to do a decent job.
Bottom line, as long as DeBord and Gittleson are gone I'm happy. I would like many of the others to stay at least this year for continuity of recruiting and helping many of the current players with the transition. If there are more capable assistants after that point, and any players/recruits worth keeping are on board with the system overall, others can leave.
Hopefully RR gets a chance to interact a great deal during practices for bowl games. Not sure if Carr will consult him or what his role could be, but it would be nice if he could add some wrinkles that might actually give Michigan a chance against Florida.

Those are some DEEP wrinkles you are hoping for.

That was an impressive presser, imo. No bullshit. Straight shooter.

Debum or deboard is gone for sure Rich is bringing his oc the rest is all up in there. But I heard through a little birdie Pryor is taking a visit and if all goes well he will be wearing the maize and blue. I also heard though we were going to lose Christian wilsons commit.


GO BLUE

Thats all RR is going to do, run the ball. He just does it a different way, he won't pound the ball with 2 TE, he will spread the field then run option all day long.

RR disagrees!

Welcome to the twins81

Something you may not know about RR's offense. They had a LOT more rushing yards than Michigan. I think WVU was top 10 in the country in rushing, which shows he has balence in his spread. I sure hope McGuffie stays, because he'd be a lot more dangerous in a spread offense running draws or options than the 2 TE off tackle BS we have run. McGuffie could really excell here IMO. I can't see Mallet running a lot of option plays, but he has enough speed that he could do some of the fake hand off QB draw plays that VY used to run at Texas. Not a ton of them, but again just enough to keep the defense honest.

I like the hire myself. It's totally against the grain from what we've been doing.

Also, he's lead WVU to 4 big east titles the last 5 years and is something like 34-5 in that span.

Pryor said he removed Tennesee and WVU from his list (which is now OSU, Penn State, Oregon and Michigan I think). He also said RR called him yesterday and let him know he was coming to Michigan before he let the media know. That may score big with Pryor, who said Michigan was on his list prior, but took it off before (probably because of our stupid offense).

BTW, what's with our teams stealing all the WVU coaches?

Michigan has their bball and football coaches and CMU hired their WR coach last year.

At least they are used to blue and gold.

Thanks for the welcome also just in case you did not know mallet ran a spread in high school he is more mobile than some relize he can move a lot better than any of the recent michigan qbs but I would not count out threet either there has been some rumblings that mallet is uncoachable and believes he is bigger than the team.

The one think I liked about Mallett this past season, was that when he was out on the field, he seemed confident, he trusts his skills, and he knows he had talent around him to win games, also it seemed like his teammates liked his energy (except for Carlos Brown when Mallett botched a snap Vs. Illinois)...I think thats why people got the perception that Mallett seemed "bigger than the team"...

One things for sure, based on what I've seen thus far, Ryan Mallett is a lot better talent than Jimmy Clausen or Pat Bostick...IMO

I think Mallet has enough legs to make some plays (like Big Ben and Favre do), but not enough to be running options all the time.

Exactly, a couple weeks ago, I made that same assumption...Ryan Mallett seems to be in the same mold of a Ben Roethlisberger type QB...large frame, but Ben can move under duress, and I actually think, that Mallett has a bigger arm than Big Ben

It was nice knowing you Wil. May Glenn have mercy on your soul.

Fuck, tried to post an embedded video and it didn't work.

Here it is:
http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/video/videopage?&brand=null&videoId=3157252&n8pe6c=2

Anyone who watched the presser.... Who was that fugnut that introduced Bill Martin. What a douche nozzle that guy was.

Can you imagine what it will be like running out on the field at the Big House for Coach RR?

No, and neither can you. We're bootlicks.

Where has buttblow been?

He hasn't been seen since Jethro powned him. Check SpartanTailgate.

he scurred

Those white things look like little spermazoids or something swimming around.

White things?

Spartantailgate

i was just there for a sec and it looks like like they dont like him their anymore than we do here. lol.


i will say im not 100% thrilled with RR. dont get me wrong, im like 95%. but i do recognize that his lack of UM ties could lead to him leaving us for the nfl. however, that would imply his stock was high, so he mustve done a good job in AA.

im also not completely sold on the spread. i liked regularly bringing a top qb likely to be headed to the nfl every year. i also dont like how reliant the spread is on the QB.

but any hire would have had downsides. if RR was here for just 5 years, but they were 5 good years, i wouldnt be mad at all.

ps: i love the inevitable "jim tressell is thrilled with this hiring" angle. some douche would have played it no matter who we hired.

pps: bukdow is a huge douchebag.

Did you see his presser? I know anything can change but he kept reffering to his son, saying... "Sons name" will be the starter here in 2017 if I don't redshirt him" Something like that.

So he might be trying to reassure peeps he's here for a while. I don't think he's the kind of guy who wants to move a lot. He said today that he doesn't just talk family, you will see his family...I live it". You can still have a family life in college ball, but it gets increasingly difficult in the pros, imo.

I think he's here for at least 10.

sounds good, but i put more weight into actions than words. he just left his alma mater for a school his connections to are tenuous, at best.

im sure he's said the same BS at wv too. i dont hold it against him, he might even believe that hemeans it, but im not gonna bank on him turning down a better deal to stay at UM. hes a mercenary, right now.

i was just there for a sec and it looks like like they dont like him their anymore than we do here. lol.



They don't. I signed up there just so I could view his posts.

how many times has he played the "your not as good a fan as i am" card, i wonder?

Most of the time he's, surprise surprise, talking about Michigan.

People will say you can't trust RR because he just left home, but fwiw he was quoted as saying he wants to retire from UM eventually. I think we all just hope he'll be in his late 50's or early 60's and successful when that alleged retirement takes place.

I've heard that Rich Rodriguez could possibly be an NFL coaching candidate down the road, do you think since he only knows how to run the spread option offense, that he could have success with that in the NFL?? I strongly doubt it...

running a 3-3-5 defense in the NFL = suicide

His offense and defense are both college-level that will never translate, so for him to jump to the pros would take him mastering a whole new offense and/or defensive scheme. Not saying it isn't done, some guys that make the jump use the spread before they leave, but it makes it a much more difficult transition.

I'm not concerned about him leaving. He left his home to come here, which means he values U of M over his home (which had a good team itself). That show how highly he values this job.

I think after Spurrier flopped in the NFL that people realize some coaches are simply college coaches.

http://www.postgazette.com/pg/07352/842541-144.stm

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07351/842323-144.stm

Mr. Hartley said he found it "amazing" that in the last year, WVU lost its basketball coach, John Beilein, to Michigan; the head of the Mountaineer Athletic Club, Whit Babcock, who was instrumental in last December's rally that kept Mr. Rodriguez, to Missouri; the swimming coach, Sergio Lopez, after winning the Big East title, to a Jacksonville, Fla., high school swimming program; and women's soccer coach, Nikki Izzo-Brown.

One college where she reportedly interviewed? The same place where Mr. Beilein and Mr. Rodriguez work.

"Maybe we should be a farm system," Mr. Hartley added, "until our coaches get good enough that they can coach at Michigan."

WE'RE GETTING IZZO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lovely. Rodriguez probably hasn't had time to christen his new office by banging his wife on the new desk and people are speculating on when he'll leave.
He spent seven years at WVU, ladies. That's probably four more than most normal people would spend there. He's not a pro coach, and MANY NCAA coaches are probably taking a long look at Nick Saban, Bobby Petrino, Cam Cameron, and even Lane Kiffin.
Rich Rodriguez is here for the long haul.

This is the most amped I've been about 'my' team...ever.

That was a good read Fool.

I still think Les Miles is a possibility.

Stole it from the DSR. None of my shit is original.

This is pretty much what Rich did to West Virginia:

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nnnn-new-new world order

http://images.sportsline.com/u/ap/photos/MIAAN101121719_1024x768.jpg

"What the fuck have I gotten myself into?"

He doesn't look extremely relaxed, does he?

"All these seats will be filled with old people?"

It was probably louder then than it is during games.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/7465/wmwms8.jpg

RR is fighting paying 4mil to WVU cuz..basically he was fradulently induced to sign a contract.

I think this has to do with the promises of the $200,000 he asked for his coaches, etc etc. Nothing for him, just stuff to help the program. Since they didn't come through, he says eff u.

Ok, here's a question. 3 years from now, what do you think the atmosphere will be like at the Big House? RR is bringing in a different offense from what was run when all the old people were in college. With any luck the oldies either give up their seats because they don't like the new offense or they move to the inside boxes - leaving the outdoor seats for younger, louder fans who have more to cheer about with the exciting offense and then the additions to the stadium intended to hold in sound might, in the end, make it at least as loud as the games played across the street at Pioneer.

By the way, caption to that picture. "Hey, Conan, this is nice and all but couldn't you and your tweed jacket have managed a shovel so I was standing in a foot of freaking snow? Now play me a little dueling banjos."

"nah, doesnt really get cold til february"

"Would you like to see my penis, Rich? maybe sign it?"

Great article on the 3-3-5:

http://www.americanfootballmonthly.com/Subaccess/Magazine/2004/feb/multiple_335_defense.html

This is bullshit. I wanted to see Marty Schottenheimer come in, coach UM, and use Marty Ball.

Any chance that there is a place for Cam Cameron on RR's staff?

He'll probably take another NFL coordinator job, but I just thought I'd throw that out there.

This is bullshit. I wanted to see Marty Schottenheimer come in, coach UM, and use Marty Ball.


AM I THE FUCKING ONLY ONE?!?

AM I THE FUCKING ONLY ONE?!?

No, Buk pm'd me and said he heard in WDFN or something

The Red Robot knows his shit!

Seriously, Schottenheimer and Marty Ball would help bring Michigan into the next century.

Marty Ball is a philosophy of football associated with and named after coach Marty Schottenheimer. In simple terms, it means a focus on the running game, with passing used only to further the running game.

Schottenheimer emphasizes offensive attacks that work as follows:

* First down: a rushing play.
* Second down: another rushing play, if necessary.
* Third down: a pass attempt, if necessary.
* Fourth down: punt (or field goal, if within range), if necessary.

Fans (and critics) refer to this scheme as "Run, Run, Pass, Punt." Schottenheimer is considered to be a conservatively-minded coach with a majority of his focus on defense. The term Martyball is generally considered a pejorative because, at times, Schottenheimer will steadfastly continue to emphasize this form of offensive attack while attempting to hold on to a thin lead or when playing from behind - often with negative results.

tell me you want the spread NOW

Isn't he the guy that is great at taking teams to AFC Championship game? Never going any further, but if thats all you're asking for in a coach, he's the man.

not to get off course, but hard to call the chargers the problem when they went from 14-2 and losing to boston in the playoffs to a pretty mediocre season this year.

and anyone who complains that they ran too much (to LT) instead of throwing (philp rivers to ???) is poorly misguided.

not that i care or anything...

Cam Cameron was their OC last year

Glenn, do you have the recipe for those Magic cookie bars?


They look mighty tasty!

Sources tell me Rich Rodriguez is in the corner right now looking like this

:emo kid:

I bet he's bummin. I mean he has to get by on $200,000.00 a month in Michigan. Went to college football team that doesn't have a lot of backing. He'll have to fight for every little thing he wants. Fans rarely show up at games. Small stadium that doesn't get filled. and on and on and on...

He's gotta be thinking...Why did I do this?

Yeah, seriously. Totally unhappy and wishing he didn't take the job.

All of Lloyd Carr's assistants were fired today...per Angelique

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071220/UPDATE/712200490


I wonder what McGuffie will do now that his boy Fred Jackson will leave, something tells me his buddy Stonum will convince him to stay...

I don't like this.

I don't like this.


I don't care for it much as well, but I trust RR knows what he's doing...

I don't like this.

Why? Because it may cost a recruit or two?
Seriously: What did ANY of them do to warrant keeping their jobs? Debord? Shoot him before he ruins someone else's program. English? Um, too many examples of his defense being torn to shreads, not the least of which was that HORRIBLE Wisconsin game.
Offensive Line coach: If he didn;t have Jake Long, NO ONE would have been blocked all year.
Receivers coach: I think the talent there coached itself. But Manningham runs terribly undisciplined routes, has alligator arms, and has never been utilized to his potential (I know, he's has some injury problems). A good receivers coach is a dime a dozen.
Defensive backs coach: PUH lease. Even though I did feel the Dbacks weren;t bad this year, they still are weak tacklers, receievers get behind them too easily, too many third and longs are given up.
Fred Jackson: Again, a running backs coach can be found under the cushions in your couch when you're looking for spare change to buy a pack of smokes.
Scott Loeffler: This one is a bit of a dilemma. Art says he has taken two years off (basically) for "personal" reasons. I say he hasn't done shit. Henne hasn;t imporved musch since his freshman year, and who was before him? Oh yeah, John Navarre, the former tight end.
Special Teams Coach: HAHAHAHH ahaha HAHAHAHAH HAHAHAHHA HHAhAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH Hahaha HAHAHAHAHAhA HAHAHAHA HAhAAHaha
ahem.
Who else is there? Linebackers coach? Or is that English's responsibility? Crable is a talent, if you can teach him not to tackle peopl by the head, and if you can teach him to not run himself out of a play. Too bad Michigan could never teach him either.
Steve Stripling: Well, when he had thirty three all americans, like last year, it appeared he was a great coach, but then, dammit, that ol' Jim Tressel: BadAss figured him out last year in Columbus, and this year in Ann Arbor. Oh, and that goofy Snoop Doggy Dogg fan, Pete Carroll, well, you know. This year? FUCKIN' A. See ya, Steve. Whay didn't the Sparties want him when they had him?
Let's see: Erik Campbell, Andy Moeller (of the Lampshade Moellers), Mike Debord, Fred Jackson, Steve Stripling, Ron English. Those are the names I know, and I'll soon forget them.
I might have liked to see English stay, but what are you going to get from him? Another year? maybe two? I like the line I heard about that: Never employ someone who wanted your job and didn't get it. Greener pastures await Ron, if he can prove himself at another stop. I do feel he may have been hampered by the overall Stench of Lloyd, but what the fuck? Start over, start fresh, just like a nice douche in the morning.

The reason I don't like it because of continuity. If they're gone in a year or two, fine, but to clean house is a big deal not just for a recruit or two (because it may actually be more and that's just this year - those assistants have connections all over the state and the country), but it also may hurt us with current players.
Manningham, Arrington, and Taylor, among others, have decisions to make. Mallett has a decision to make, and with Pryor not a sure thing, that could be huge. McGuffie has a decision to make, along with several others recruits.
I wanted Loeffler, English, Campbell and Jackson to stick around for another year. Everyone else can go.

I don't like this.

I took it as part of the invitable.

IIRC, RR corrected himself in the presser when he said that he would evaluate and retain some coaches...then he said something like I should say rehire.

I don't think this is bad.

What the hell is Loeffler gonna teach Mallett? In fact, what the hell good ould keeping any of those goofballs around accomplish? One more year of mediocrity?
And what does RR do next year if some good assistants are snatched up this year? With so MANY coaching changes, you got to assemble a staff that will give you continuity beyond next year. If you want continuity, you sure ain't gonna have it when you can those four assholes after next season, or they leave because their contracts are up.
Don't overthink this thing. New coach. New culture. New attitude.
Every once in awhile you gotta just go out and buy a whole new set of underwear and throw the old stuff out. You might really like a couple of pair that you've had for ten years, but the skidmarks won't bleach out, and you're Grogan dangles out one of the holes and gets all knotted up. Throw it all out the window.
And as I like to say: Don't be held hostage by a bunch of teenagers. Either they want to play at Michigan, or they don't. I'm more worried about Arrington kicking his girlfriend's ass or doing something else stupid and getting arrested than I am about how many TD passes he might catch next year. Same with Manningham, who seems to be a head case himself.
The recruits WILL come. If Lloyd can recruit, Rodriguez sure as HELL will be able to.

as much as i've disagreed with zip re: UM for some time, he is dead on here.

he made 2 particularly cogent points:

1) it would be unwise to keep around the guy who wanted your job.

2) you dont let teenagers dictate who's on the staff.

when you hire a coach, it should be on him to decide who he wants working underneath him.

Zips copying my shit again.

Zips copying my shit again.

I can't help it Tahoe. You're so damn, uh, right all the time.

I can't help it Tahoe. You're so damn, uh, correct all the time.

fiksed

Peeps might think I'm a right winger or something. You know politically I'm down the middle.

Rich Rod has a plan, he knows what he's doing, and I can't blame him for wanting to assemble his own staff...

that being said, I hope he can rekindle some of the "iffy" recruits, but if they leave because of a change of staff, than their heart must not be in Ann Arbor in the first place...especially a guy like McGuffie, whose game translates into RR's offense like no other...

I don't see them losing any recruits over this...maybe Cissoko, but thats it

Rich Rodriguez knows ALL.
He has a plan, He has it figured out. He wouldn;t have taken this job if he didn't.
Many mortals would have been scared off. Schiano, Ferentz, and Miles. They just couldn;t make that leap of faith.

Trust in The Rod.

Rich Rodriguez knows ALL.
He has a plan, He has it figured out. He wouldn;t have taken this job if he didn't.
Many mortals would have been scared off. Schiano, Ferentz, and Miles. They just couldn;t make that leap of faith.

Trust in The Rod.

Told ya, Karl.

Show me where I EVER poo pooed Rodriguez, and I'll pay you ONE dollar.

What's Karl got to do, got to do, with it

Show me where I EVER poo pooed Rodriguez, and I'll pay you ONE dollar.

Oh my fuggin G.... are you seri...you can't be serio..... WDFN reported it.

Posted: Yesterday 11:37 PM

TJBlog: we were told (and a little more)

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

... we were told at about 7:30 PM ... but I was at Atonement at the time ... symbiosis?

Angelique was told about the same time ... and we're glad ... we'd have had to just hint ... this is something safer broke by the major papers.

I have not read the Det. News article, so don't know how exactly is is characterized there ... but ...

All coaches are let go as of the bowl game. They were marched in one at a time ... a one-by-one axing.

Staffers (Draper, Labadie, Singletary) evidently, we are told, will be retained ... making this - surprise, surprise - "The Three."

Expect Manningham to quite possibly leave ... Arrington we'll see, not as certain, we'll see.

Mallett with Loeffler gone -- problematic.

McGuffie with Fred Jackson gone - problematic.

Many others may well be problematic as well.

Talk aboutcher house-cleaning ...

Whether this is definite and final, or "fluid" ... we'll see.




GOT THIS ON GBW, I KNOW PROBABLY NOT THE PLACE TO POST IT, BUT W/E

obviously alot of questionable moves here, that could potentially take some heat by the local media...but I still trust RR knows what he's doing...

Something tells me, its going to take alot more than just this to lose either Mallett or McGuffie...an assistant coach shouldn't be the reason you chose to play at Michigan, and I doubt thats the case for these 2

I can't see Rich Rod taking any heat, except from Twin Moralizing (when it fits their purposes) Douchebags Mitch Albom and Drew Sharp.

Rich Rodriguez knows ALL.


RR vs. Izzo

Who wins?

as much as i've disagreed with zip re: UM for some time, he is dead on here.

he made 2 particularly cogent points:

1) it would be unwise to keep around the guy who wanted your job.

2) you dont let teenagers dictate who's on the staff.

when you hire a coach, it should be on him to decide who he wants working underneath him.

That's what she said

I can't see Rich Rod taking any heat, except from Twin Moralizing (when it fits their purposes) Douchebags Mitch Albom and Drew Sharp.



Most people are panicking just because of McGuffie...

Something tells me F-Jackson will call him and tell him to stay committed, also his buddy Darryll Stonum, who is enrolling in January will probably get him to stay solid too...

I'm not concerned about McGuffie. Is he's dumb enough not to want to play in this spread offense then I don't want him.

Also, can we stop with the "Michigan State has a leg up on in-state recruiting" talk??? I mean for real, since when has Michigan been a factory for quality D1 Talent?? And since when do those 4 and 5 stars that do happen to live here, ever want to play at MSU???

Michigan sells itself people...Dantonio doesn't have a leg up on anybody...

Rodriguez fires Carr's staff

by Jeff Arnold | The Ann Arbor News Friday December 21, 2007, 5:51 AM


Rich Rodriguez wasted little time putting his personal stamp on the University of Michigan football (http://mlive.stage.advance.net/wolverines/) program.
Three days after being introduced as Lloyd Carr's successor, Rodriguez fired all nine of Michigan's assistant coaches Thursday afternoon, breaking the news to each one in private meetings at Schembechler Hall.

All of the assistants were signed to two-year contracts in March and will be paid through Feb. 28, 2009. The firings are effective after Michigan faces Florida on Jan. 1, 2008, in the Capital One Bowl in Orlando, Fla.
"It's not a total shock," said wide receivers coach Erik Campbell, who spent 13 years on the Michigan staff. "It's a tough day, but you're glad the closure finally came - at least you know where you stand one way or another.
"But it's a tough day anytime you no longer work at a place where you basically grew up."
The staff of Campbell, defensive coordinator Ron English, offensive coordinator Mike DeBord, Steve Stripling (defensive line), Andy Moeller (offensive line), Fred Jackson (running backs), Scot Loeffler (quarterbacks) Steve Szabo (linebackers) and Vance Bedford (defensive backs), will not return next season.
"I can understand that he wants to bring in the people that have been on staff with him for years," English said Thursday night. "But when you lose your job, it's hard."
Rodriguez brought two assistants with him to Ann Arbor for his introductory news conference on Monday.
Rodriguez introduced offensive coordinator Calvin Magee and secondary coach/recruiting coordinator Tony Gibson on Monday, when he said he didn't have a full staff in mind yet.
He said he planned to bring more assistants from West Virginia, but that he wanted to interview Michigan's current assistants as well.
Rodriguez observed practice the last two days and then held one-one-one meetings with Carr's staff Thursday.
Several players were made available to the media Thursday afternoon. While they said that they haven't seen Rodriguez's presence affect the Wolverines' focus, senior safety Brandent Englemon said he's sure the assistants' futures had to cross their minds as the Wolverines prepare to face the defending national champions.
"I guess when we're not around, (the focus among assistants) may be a problem, but when we come in, it's strictly business," Englemon said Thursday. "When it comes down to practice, they're focused on what we need to do."
On Monday, Carr agreed.
"They're all guys who take great pride with how they approach their jobs," Carr said. "We're all trying to be focused at some point in trying to help them further their careers, but the other thing we're trying to focus on is trying to do the best job we can to prepare this team for this game."
Campbell said Thursday night he hasn't begun to think about his future, but called the day a sad day.
"(Rodriguez) had other guys in mind, and that's part of the business," Campbell said. "When he says he's going in a different direction, he's going in a different direction.
"Of course you hope to stay, because when you love a place, you hope to stick around."

There are rumblings, that he still might re-interview a couple of the guys he just fired...

but no names were leaked yet on GBW

I wonder if it's possible that UM asked for it to be handled this way to not make it look like anybody was singled out (Debord). If a bunch of these dudes get rehired by RR, that's exactly what I think is happening here.

English, Jackson, Loeffler, Szabo and Campbell could all land NFL jobs

I wonder if it's possible that UM asked for it to be handled this way to not make it look like anybody was singled out (Debord). If a bunch of these dudes get rehired by RR, that's exactly what I think is happening here.
I don't know if they asked for it, but I like it. Wipe the slate clean and then see who you might want to bring back. It's more PC than individual firings, and it also allows guys to persue other jobs if they don't want to re-interview (like Wil mentioned).

Now it's being reported on GBW, that one assistant will be kept on board, and even though he's not allowed to mention exactly who it is, based on his hints, it's Fred Jackson...


Posted: Today 12:33 PM
TJBlog: I'm assuming you guys want it play-by-play (typos fixed)
... as we get it ... so if things we report are going through changes -- DON'T blame the play-by-play guys. I guess I have to keep warning of you -- you think we're god here, knowing what is GONNA happen and "somehow holding us to it"

K, here's the latest ... one astt. is being pretty-much now assured of re-hire by RR ... one. Can't say who it is, we're not allowed. But it's a long-time guy. It is not an obvious position-opening if you go position-by-position. However, there is a key recruit who reeeeally likes this guy.

If you guess, give yourself a gold star -- but please do not put it in yout subject line - if you do I'll have to delete it.

TOM

PS: whether we go beyond 1, to 2 or 3 ... we'll bring it to you if it happens ... has not happened yet.

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jack is back...official per det news

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071221/UPDATE/712210448


"I'm looking forward to working with him and learning that offense," Jackson said, referring to Rodriguez's spread offense. "I'm looking forward to keeping the Michigan tradition alive."

So now as many as 4 of them could be rehired, hmmm

I guess Michigan WR Toney Clemons is really making a strong push to get Pryor to come to Michigan per the Free Press...


FYI, they are cousins. Gotta like UM's chances, especially given Pryor's strong desire to play in a spread offense

i suspect 3 total if he wants that many back.

i suspect 3 total if he wants that many back.


hopefully Loeffler and Campbell are the other two...

The further away we get from the decision to let all the coaches go, the more I like it. It looks like they had a plan (prolly Martin included), and followed it.

I loved the move. He needed to let everyone know who was in charge. Even though Jackson is/was loyal to Carr....he knows who his new boss is (I wanted to use master, but it seemed wrong for some reason) and that he is on RR coaching staff.

I suspect Soup or Lefty will be brought back or maybe both. Stripling is also a possibility.

BTW notice it said offensive coach for Coach Jackson. Not 100% sure what his role will be, but this was a huge step in keeping McGuffie.

10 guys are solid with 6 out there. With most of the 6 expected to come back. Dont ask for names. I dont have any to give out.

Coach Rod has talked to the QBs supposedly.

Someone on GBW has said that it's really looking as if Pryor will commit to Michigan...I'll post more once I get more info...

Choice #1

Plays at UofM

Choice #2

Plays anywhere but OSU

btw...why the fuck is he even considering OSU. They don't run the spread and they will never run the spread. Right? I don't watch those cheatin fucks so maybe they do, but I've never seen it.

Choice #1

Plays at UofM

Choice #2

Plays anywhere but OSU

btw...why the fuck is he even considering OSU. They don't run the spread and they will never run the spread. Right? I don't watch those cheatin fucks so maybe they do, but I've never seen it.



I think it's because it's one of few schools that will use him for both Football & Basketball...I don't know why he'd choose OSU, I mean honestly, There is no better situation for the kid then to come to Michigan, he'll play right away, he can probably play b-ball as well, and if he went to OSU, he'd have to sit behind Boeckman next year...

plus his cousin, Toney Clemons, is on UM, so I mean, I don't know how much more of a perfect fit Michigan could possibly be...

and if they keep Loeffler, thats just icing on the cake...

Link to RR's interview on Dan Patrick today. I'm really loving this guy. Handled himself very well when Danny boy started to be a confrontational jackass.

http://www.danpatrick.com/

click on interviews, then RR's picture.

BTW, Dan Patrick is now one of my least favorite people.

me no likie DP either

Dan worked at ESPN. Douche by default.

LC is hot! J/k sheisajoke

i dont like dan Patrick, but i did like the interview. dan asked tough, fair questions. RR stood tall, too.

He was just getting ratings. He tried to ride the wave of "all coaches who change teams are snakes' sentiment.

rich shoulda been like

"dont hate appreciate"
"u just hate me cuz u aint me"

I think he should call ALL reporters "Lil Brother"

AHAHHAHAHA RUDY GAY

...wrong thread

Someone on GBW has said that it's really looking as if Pryor will commit to Michigan...I'll post more once I get more info...

Will: You responded to a request I made the other night, and now you come with that?

If it happens, I will either:

A) Kiss you full on the lips

B) Jerk off onto the tits of the chick in your avatar.

It's your choice, man. You delivered last nights info, I trust you'll know what to do after Pryor commits to UM.

Don't get me started on Dan Patrick.

OK, you got me started on Dan Patrick.

He's nothing but fluff 90% of the tiem. He invented the "ESPN Shmooze". Whedn he and Rich Eisen would cohost ESPN Sportscenter together, it was so "Lounge Lizzardy" that I found myself waxing poetic for the days of Al Ackerman and Dave Diles.

He's nothing but a name dropping, moussed up cheerleading apologist for everything sports. Ever listen to him talk to someone he's about to "interview"? It's four minutes of "Hey! Would you like me to rub your wife's belly? I AM Dan Patrick, and I ate at Spago last night. And, when I was getting out of my car, Shecky Green said "hello" to me. Top that, motherfucker"

The frustrating part is that when he forgets where he is, and actually interviews someone, and remembers that he is a journalist, he is THE BEST. Most of the other time, though, he's worried about his hair, and if the guy he's talking to will suck his toes after the commercial break.

Sometimes, I just type away. I'm sloshed, listening to Herb Alpert on the headphones, and having a good time with myself. Bommm Bom Dah Dah Domm Doom Dooom Doom doom doon DAH! Showbow we bowpe dowmp DOO!
WOOOOOO! Yeah! Rich Rodriguez! YEEEEHAAAH! I'm so happy I could Samba!

LC is hot! J/k sheisajoke


Linda Cohn or Lauren Conrad???

http://www.smorty71.com/images/blog/cohn1.jpg

OR

http://www.buddytv.com/articles/Image/lauren_conrad.jpg

Tahoe is Team Lauren, but I was talking about Cohn in the post. I know Karl doesn't like her so I was giving it to him. I always put white text alert in, but he misses them.

Gawd damnit.

Per GBW, the Donovan Warren transfering rumors are not true, DW didn't even know where those rumors came from, and says he never even considered transfering, and is exicted for the renovation of the S&C program...

FRED JACKSON WILL BE COACHING RB'S, SO MCGUFFIE IS PRETTY MUCH A LOCK

Sa PM TJBlog: Play-by-Play Changes Once Again

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

1. Fred Jackson. This just in -- Jackson IS going to coach running backs under the new regime. Sanity wins out! And this helps with Sam McGuffie of course.

2. Regarding the new $600,000 S&C facilities. We're told that 95% of what is currently in the weight room will be replaced -- and that the room will be empty in two weeks!

3. Re the Ryan Mallett situation, regarding whether he will stay at U-M or nor. The Malletts are certainly watching the Scot Loeffler situation closely -- Ryan's dad has been at practice this week.


+++++++++++++++++++

Once again, the WVA coaches coming along seem to be:

-- OC Calvin Magee - definitely coming

-- WR Coach Tony Dews ... he may stay at WVA.

-- ST/TE coach Bill Stewart ... he may stay at WVA.

-- DC Jeff Casteel (he coached LB's as well at WVA, will he at U-M?) - definitely coming

-- CB coach Tony Gibson - definitely coming

-- Safeties coach Bruce Tall - definitely coming

-- S&C coach Mike Barwis - definitely coming
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DC Jeff Casteel.

SO I guess English is out?

I keep wondering why people are saying that Mario Manningham's decision on whether to stay might hinge on what his pal Arrington does. Isn't Arrington a senior with no eligibility left? Did I miss a medical redshirt in there somewhere?
I think Arrington is done at Michigan.

i was pretty mad at MM after the OSU game, but i guess i would prefer to see him stick around next year, regardless of the QB.

i was pretty mad at MM after the OSU game, but i guess i would prefer to see him stick around next year, regardless of the QB.


I agree. He hasn't done much in "big games" in his Michigan career (other than the MSU game this year, and a couple games when he was a frosh), but I wouldn't mind having him stick around another year...

If not, Greg Mathews along with Stonum, Hemingway, and Clemons are more than capable of making up for the loss...

Arrington redshirted early, so he's really a redshirt junior this current season. His 4th year there, but he's only played three.
He caught two passes in 2004, then did nothing in 2005.

I heard Arrington may go pro...

He's a good receiver, has great hands and size, but I think he should come back one more year...

It's the difference of him being a second day pick if he leaves now, or a first day pick if he leaves next year

Wil read what AAir16 says on the Scout site. He is very good friends with AA.

He has said repeatedly that MM will do what AA does. They are waiting to see what happens with Mallett.

Artermis, can you confirm what WDFN is saying? They're reporting RR tried to commit suicide this morning.

He saw his wife for the first time without makeup and tried...tis true story.

Wil read what AAir16 says on the Scout site. He is very good friends with AA.

He has said repeatedly that MM will do what AA does. They are waiting to see what happens with Mallett.


Interesting, I've heard that if AA stays in school one more year, he could have a good shot at being a first-day pick in the '09 Draft...

I hope AA decides to stay, as it will help get through some of the "growing pains" of implementing a new offense next year...

But like I mentioned before, if they both decide to leave, UM has the resources to make up for the loss in Mathews, Hemingway, Clemons, Stonum, and whoever else (Bass, Webb, Savoy)

I've expected Savoy to do something for years now. I'm pretty much done expecting anything out of him.
It always makes me wonder when guys are highly rated like Savoy and Doug Dutch were, then do literally nothing. I mean, clearly recruiters thought their abilities were a good match for what the teams plans were, right? From time to time we even hear about some amazing things they did in the spring, etc. Then they never see the field. It's like, if you had even the slightest idea that was going to be the case and they aren't even depth or special teams, why not save the scholarship or give it to a kicker that can hit a FG to beat a 1-AA team?

I agree that Arrington should come back if he hopes to improve his stock for the draft. Whether it was UM's offensive scheme or not, he had many games with little or nothing to show for it. Manningham is a no brainer. He has shown little heart, a tendency to have alligator arms, and a tendency to be disruptive.
There are an absolute TON of great receivers in the NFL right now. Both of these guys would have little impact as reflected by their college careers.
Right now I feel Arrington is the better prospect. Better hands, and he is a possession type of guy. Manningham will get pummelled by physical Dbacks in the NFL, and his speed will be easily negated there also.
Both would probably be drafted high (there's always the Lions), but right now I'm not sure they make it in the long run.

Right now Manningham's best hopes would be to be a Shaun McDonald, and McDonald has much more heart. Arrington at least takes a hit and bounces back up, plus he's taller. If Manningham gets his heart back he's the better prospect.

I don't really blame either guy for any lack of productivity this year. When the senior leaders limp off the field every other play and your season starts as crappy as it does, it's not easy for guys to shoulder all that. I can't blame either one for going and moving on - rather than learn a new offense for their last year - but everyone is correct in saying they could help themselves an awful lot by staying.

But that meant nothing to Ernest Shazor or others ahead of him. Shazor would have been a stud as a senior and thought he was a day 1 guy, then went undrafted. Lots of bad info out there.

manningham could be the next bernard berrian.

Right now, Manningham is on track to be the next Charles Rogers.
Man, the NCAA forum is blowing up. That RR suicide rumor seems to have generated some interest!

RR suidice rumor? Huh?

We've had a lot of visitors reading the football recruiting thread today, somebody must have posted a link somewhere or something.

I also Googled "football recruiting class of 08" and we were #1.

http://wtfdetroit.com/forums/admincpanel/../../pics/toiletpaper.jpg WTFDetroit’s Morning Constitutional
With Zip Goshboots

December 26, 2007

Now that the dust has settled, and most Michigan fans have been talked off the ledge after an excruciating coaching search, it’s time to analyze the hiring of Rich Rodriguez.

Can you say, “Outstanding”?

This was a huge opening in NCAA football. In fact, there were several huge openings this year. Nebraska, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Mississippi, UCLA, and Michigan, to name a few (at least those that I can remember after yet another night of revelry this holiday season). I can’t remember a year when so many “Big Name” schools were out there trying to poach the ranks of college football for a new warden; then again, this WAS a wacky year of upsets and other shenanigans, so why not cap it off with so many coaches being canned, resigning, or retiring?

Let’s forget about those other schools, though, because Michigan’s search dominated the news for three weeks. And let’s forget about those other schools because, well, who really gives a shit about Arkansas, Mississippi, and Nebraska?

Read this complete Morning Constitutional here. (http://www.wtfdetroit.com/index.php?page=morning122607)

I was browsing my other favorite board (SpartanTailgate). The folks in the green and white tent call Rich Rodriguez "Dick Rod", lol.

I do not understand tent and Rod in one sentence.

Isn't Dick Rod a little redundant?

Very.

I prefer walking around in public with my dick hanging out.

My wife gives me shit for never zipping my pants back up after going to the bathroom because I like to rock out with my cock out.

Gawddamn dyke.

So I heard the Rodriguez situation has gotten worse day by day. Apparently since he's moved to AA he's discovered his wife's been cheating on him, his kid isn't his, and he has cancer.

I love Rita Rodriguez. She has that "Ten Mile and Gratiot Barfly" look that I snap up every time I visit Michigan.
I guarantee you that if I ever run into her at a bar, after a couple drinks she'll have my face tatooed on here ass.

I was browsing my other favorite board (SpartanTailgate). The folks in the green and white tent call Rich Rodriguez "Dick Rod", lol.

if i had to say one thing about bukdow, it would be that he suffers from a severe case of "penis envy".

WVU decides to sue RR over the 4mil buyout.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7567884

Am I the only one that thinks it's HI-larious that people are all worried about which assistant coach should be retained, who is a great recruiter, and which players should stay (or transfer) IN LIGHT OF
This team has absolutley sucked ass for the last seven years?
I mean, really: They played John Navaree at QB for three years, they have lost 4 (probably 5) bowl games in a row, have been doggy style butt fucked by the better teams on the schedule for the last seven years, have been doggy style butt fucked by Jim Tressel for 6 of 7 years, have barely beated the Sparties five of the last six, were embarrased by Wisconsin this year, lost to a division (whatever) team in Apple State, and did I mention that they have basically sucked since they won the Orange Bowl in (whatever year they won it)?

Who is to say ANYBODY on this staff is a "great" recruiter? What the FUCK have they recruited? Name me one BIG win over the last half decade?

Geez, it is SOOOO time for a complete housecleaning of shit anyone who thinks ANYONE who has been associated with this program for the last ten years should still have a job is an idiot.

Name me one BIG win over the last half decade?
They beat Florida in the Capital One Bowl. Does that count?

That play calling didn't look like a Carr game plan... two heads?

Rich had to help them with how to beat the spread. I think RR did a lot of consulting before this game.

Rich had to help them with how to beat the spread. I think RR did a lot of consulting before this game.

I'm going to have something to say about that in the next Constitutional.

Anybody read RichRod's wiki page lately?

There is some pretty interesting stuff in there about his move to UM.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rich_Rodriguez

Did you see him yesterday at the Capital One Bowl? When he was in with the announcers? Man, he looked like a wreck. Looking like he tried holding back the tears.

In the paper today in Omaha, they ran a "Report Card" on coaching hires. They gave their own hire a "C". Pellini was the easy, obvious choice. They said it would be a great hire, but not for a program like Nebraska. I just don;t think they realize how far they've fallen, or how hard it is going to be to get back on top. They had GENIUS in DeVanney and Osborne. Two guys like that in a row has never happened before. Now, they have no recruiting base, and all they can hire are "hot" names for recruiters who will move on after some success. Osborne kept the same staff together for like 20 years.
They gave UM an "A": The BEST hire of this go round.
Lemme put it like dis: If Carr isn;t retiring after the Cap 1 Bowl, does ANYBODY think UM would have played like that? If Rodriguez doesn;t leave WVU, does ANYBODY think they would have kicked Oklahoma's arse like that?
The answers are NO and YES. UM was motivated for Carr, added ALOT of new Rod inspired wrinkles for the game. WVU played the way they ALWAYS play under Rodriguez (Calvin Magee was calling the plays).
I almost can't wait for next football season to start.

Anyone notice that Rich Rodriguez's team at WVU has taken out the SEC Champ and the Big 12 Champ two of the last three years? Pretty much in blitzkrieg fashion, too (though Georgia came back from a 28-10 deficit and made that game close).
Now, some of it may be due to the fact that the teams WVU played may have been a little complacent or over confident, and that won;t happen with UM, but still, don;t it make ya wonder????
It's one day closer to September!

Actually Michigan's season opener is August 31st, isn't it??

!!!!

Actually Michigan's season opener is August 31st, isn't it??

!!!!

Yes, but it IS one day closer to Spetember.
Actually, I have no idea when UM's season starts. I usually don;t notice football season has begun until about the 8th week of the season.

GBW is reporting that the new DC could be Ed Orgeron, who was the head coach at Ole Miss the last few years. He was on Pete Carroll's staff before the Ole Miss job, he's a great recruiter in California...

Not official yet though.

That COULD be cool. Not sure. Ole Miss has gone 7-17 the last two seasons, but they were playing in the tough SEC plus they faced Missouri the past two years. They've had some blowout losses, but hung in there with some teams as well. Not all coordinators have success as head coaches, but he could do some things and restore what we lost in West Coast recruiting with English.

As a HC he may have had a poor record, but what you should really be looking at is what he did as a DC. How were his defenses under Pete Carroll?

As a HC he may have had a poor record, but what you should really be looking at is what he did as a DC. How were his defenses under Pete Carroll?

Right. Some guys make great coordinators and bad coaches. There isn't always a logical progression there.
Mississippi is a pretty hapless job. They made a huge mistake in getting rid of David Cutcliffe just when he was about to get something going, and Orgeron didn't have a chance.

We should know all about good coordinators that are bad HC here. The Lions excell at finding those. And Miss is a hard place to win. I don't know who is in their division, but playing in the SEC and recruiting against SEC powers AND ACC powers down there has to be pretty hard. I'd say making a bowl most years is a huge accomplishment for the lower tier of the SEC (depending on their Non conference scheduling).

Interesting thing I've noticed in looking at RR's past recruiting classes and the past few Ole Miss classes - both are pretty strong on JUCO players. Austin Panter last season was the first JUCO player at UM in a while. Do you think under RR we will see more of that at UM? Or is that more a trend for schools that struggle to get the top classes out of high school and go to the JUCOs out of necessity?

Also, I've noticed both have pulled from military academies as well. This will be interesting given the Mike Hart - Jim Harbaugh debate about academic standards. Does anyone think this staff might try to lower the standards?

Interesting thing I've noticed in looking at RR's past recruiting classes and the past few Ole Miss classes - both are pretty strong on JUCO players. Austin Panter last season was the first JUCO player at UM in a while. Do you think under RR we will see more of that at UM? Or is that more a trend for schools that struggle to get the top classes out of high school and go to the JUCOs out of necessity?

Also, I've noticed both have pulled from military academies as well. This will be interesting given the Mike Hart - Jim Harbaugh debate about academic standards. Does anyone think this staff might try to lower the standards?

The second one, imo. It'll be interesting to see how RR reacts to having the pick of the litter...at times anyway.

Looks like the DC will be Jay Hopson from Southern Miss. Right.....Jay who? Here's a link to his bio.

http://southernmiss.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hopson_jay00.html

Dude looks like a douche.

Moodini, you kind of looked Douchey with that sqaure thing you were doing to make it on google. Plus, you are friends with Tre.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/deathbellstar/douchebag.jpg

Looks like the DC will be Jay Hopson from Southern Miss. Right.....Jay who? Here's a link to his bio.

http://southernmiss.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/hopson_jay00.html

Dude looks like a douche.

I dont care if he looks like a douche or not...The Fact is, he had the best defense in C-USA for 2 years and runs a 4-3

Moodini, you kind of looked Douchey with that sqaure thing you were doing to make it on google. Plus, you are friends with Tre.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/deathbellstar/douchebag.jpg

Hilarious.

RichRod will be on with Jim Rome in the final hour of his radio show (between 2pm and 3 pm EST).

Solid. Recruiting Karma.

RichRod will be on with Jim Rome in the final hour of his radio show (between 2pm and 3 pm EST).

Shit, I forgot about this, has he been on yet?

Fuck, missed it.

Can someone recap?

No one is staying.

Thanks, I bet it was either epic or classic.

Reacp from another site:


Not much said... asking him about how he left on bad terms and getting death threats and such.

Rome asked him about his "System" and whether it would work in the Big Ten. Which he then more or less said he would adapt his offense to his players.

Said he thinks AA is leaving for the NFL and hasn't talked to Manningham.

When asked about Pryor... RR said he couldn't talk about it, but was excited about the 15 recruits they do have.

RR on Mallet "I believe he's going to transfer. He hasn't told me directly, but he has talked to people within the program"

Quote... "We like winning enough to adapt our system to the personel we have"

AA leaving, Mallett transferring, I wouldn't really consider that "not much said".

Let me guess, was that other site SpartanTailgate?

Would explain the "not much said".

Naw, they'll be popping champagne corks about that news.

I heard it Glenn, and Rome called it a pretty "candid interview", saying that RR answered alot of tough questions.

He pretty much did sound like a guy who has accepted that Mallet, AA, and Mario are Ghandi. And he also didn't hesistate with those answers, and it didn't seem to bother him. RR is Balls to the Wall, and I love it!

when asked further about how he handles that type of situation, RR said (parapphrasing): By the third call if they don't give him an answer, then that's that. He also said that Manningham isn't even in Ann Arbor as far as he knows.

I'm meeting up with Richard tonight to have a couple drinks.

Anything you guys want me to ask him?

Glenn you can probably catch it again on Talk Soup.

Rodriguez predicts Arrington, Mallett, Manningham departures on Rome's radio show

Posted by Chris Burke January 08, 2008 15:12PM
Categories: U-M Football

Rich Rodriguez appeared on Jim Rome's radio show today, and TheWolverine has a transcript from that interview.

Rodriguez predicted both Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington would leave, adding he hadn't heard much from either of them.

"They have not told me specifically yet," said Rodriguez. "I talked to Adrian - both of them - before the bowl, but I tried to stay out of it and let them concentrate on the bowl game. I've talked to Adrian since the bowl game a little bit and I think he's leaning a toward coming out, but I don't think he has made the announcement yet.

"I have not seen Mario. I don't think he's back in Ann Arbor yet, so indications are he may be coming out, as well."
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Rodriguez added he expected freshman quarterback Ryan Mallett to leave, as well, noting he'd done his best to convince him he could fit in his spread offense.

"I believe he is going to transfer," he said. "He has not told me specifically, but he's told other folks in the program, and I talked to him before the bowl game and I talked to him once after and gave him our spiel. But again, if he chooses to leave, he can make a choice he thinks is best for him and we'll be okay."

Well that about the worse case...for some reason, its ok. I know, in time, that RR will recruit good players. But that is a bigger shake out than I expected.

when asked further about how he handles that type of situation, RR said (parapphrasing): By the third call if they don't give him an answer, then that's that. He also said that Manningham isn't even in Ann Arbor as far as he knows.

you and me are always on the same page when it comes to recruits. if they are waffling then fuck em. there is more than enough quality talent that would knock down walls to get a chance at michigan that we dont need to pander to premadona 5 stars.

whatever we roll out this year should still be as good, if not better, than what he had a WVU. im not worried.

New Michigan head coach Rich Rodriguez didn't hold back in speaking with radio host Jim Rome today, broaching subjects from death threats he's received from angry West Virginians since leaving for Ann Arbor and potential transfers from his program.

Rodriguez predicted both Mario Manningham and Adrian Arrington would leave, adding he hadn't heard much from either of them.

"They have not told me specifically yet," said Rodriguez. "I talked to Adrian – both of them – before the bowl, but I tried to stay out of it and let them concentrate on the bowl game. I've talked to Adrian since the bowl game a little bit and I think he's leaning a toward coming out, but I don't think he has made the announcement yet.

"I have not seen Mario. I don't think he's back in Ann Arbor yet, so indications are he may be coming out, as well."

There will be no hard feelings if they choose to leave, he added.

"I want to wish them the best. I don't know them very well, but I've watched them play and they are great players. Obviously, for selfish reasons I'd like to have them come back, but if that's what's best for their careers, they've got to do that and we'll be okay, as well."

Rodriguez added he expected freshman quarterback Ryan Mallett to leave, as well, noting he'd done his best to convince him he could fit in his spread offense.

"I believe he is going to transfer," he said. "He has not told me specifically, but he's told other folks in the program, and I talked to him before the bowl game and I talked to him once after and gave him our spiel. But again, if he chooses to leave, he can make a choice he thinks is best for him and we'll be okay.

"I talked to all of the quarterbacks about how our system can adapt to the quarterback, because we've had throwing quarterbacks in this system that have had great careers and gone on to the NFL. I did it a couple of times. I recruited [Mallett] once, I recruited him twice and then after the third time I'm thinking, 'okay, three times is enough for me.' It's a great institution, and if somebody doesn't want to be here who is already here, you wish them luck and move on."

Rodriguez touched on a number of other subjects with Rome, as well. Here's the transcript:

On Rivals.com's top player, quarterback Terrelle Pryor, and whether or not he feels he has a shot at him: "Unfortunately, I can't talk specifically about recruiting. But we are excited about one of the commitments we have. We have 15 or 16 commitments, and I'm also excited about the recruits we think we can get here.

"The neat part about it is we have some coaches and recruits that Michigan has been recruiting for years, and also my staff, whether they came from West Virginia or elsewhere, has a number of recruits they are excited about and think can play at a high level. We are going to mix those in the next three weeks and try to assemble a great class. I know we are going to be able to sign a full 25, so that's exciting."

On whether he believes he can have immediate success at Michigan: "I sure hope so, and I'm sure all the Michigan fans hope so as well. I think we have enough talent here. We probably need to talk again this summer and I'll be able to tell you this spring exactly how far we've got to go, because right now it's a blank canvas. I don't really know. I watched a couple of bowl practices, but until I see them practice in our system and how quickly they'll adapt … I'll know then.

"Also, we're going to try to adapt to our guys, and we'll find out at the end of spring where our best talent is and adjust accordingly."

On whether he's aware of the intensity of the Ohio State rivalry: "Oh yeah, and I knew that coming in. Anybody who follows college football knows the intensity of that rivalry. I know all the Michigan fans, who they were rooting for last night.

"We have three great rivalries. Obviously, all the games in the Big Ten are important, but we're probably unique in that Ohio State, Notre Dame and Michigan State are annual rivals for us. I know the expectations here are big, but they are big everywhere. They were big at West Virginia. So that doesn't faze me at all."

On selling Michigan on the recruiting trail: "The one thing that is exciting … obviously the great tradition we've had here, and not just recently, but throughout 120 years of college football. The 33 consecutive bowl games, the number of guys in the NFL, the reputation of the institution academically. We have more living alumni than any school in the country, which is quite amazing.

"When you walk into a young man's house when you have that Michigan jacket on, you get immediate attention from them. That's pretty exciting."

On the challenge of implementing his system at Michigan: "Everybody runs some version of spread at some point or another. A lot of times the systems can help you at times, but a lot of times it's overrated. It's about getting good players to execute and play extremely hard, no matter what system you have. If you do that, you'll have good success.

"Now, our spread, we like to think is flexible. We can go a few different ways. If we have a running quarterback, we can run it a little more. If we have a throwing quarterback, we can do that. If you have a guy who can do both, that's even better.

"There are going to be challenges because it's a transition. These guys have been recruited for a different systems, and we're putting a lot in there. It's going to take time for them to adapt. But I like winning too much not to adapt to our personnel a little bit, too. It's going to be tough. We're losing our quarterback, a couple of our leading receivers may turn pro, we're losing a great running back, our best offensive lineman … it's going to be some transition, but I think they guys have a great attitude, and they'll buy into it.

On whether he was surprised at the backlash from his home state when he left: "The level of animosity … I knew there would be some hard feelings, but the death threats, vandalism – it surprised me a little bit.

"Not all the facts are out there. Everyone wants to know the reasons why – eventually there will be some reasons [given]. But for me, I think everyone needs to realize how excited I am to be at Michigan. It's a great opportunity in my profession to be a coach at a place like this.

"There are other factors involved, and I've tried to take the high road, not get involved in some of the things involving loyalty and being a man of my word, because I've always been a man of my word. But eventually the truth will come out and I hope people will understand why I've gone to Michigan. So I want them to appreciate not just me, but what the staff has done the last six, seven years or so in building up the program at West Virginia."

Moodini, you kind of looked Douchey with that sqaure thing you were doing to make it on google. Plus, you are friends with Tre.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e124/deathbellstar/douchebag.jpg

Zip, what are you talking about dude? "Square thing you were doing to make it on google?" What does that even mean?

Don't even talk about me being "douchey". I seriously believe that you are the single reason that the NCAA forum has gone to shit.

A Rodriguez thread shouldn't regress to the terrordome.

Let's bring it back fellas.

A Rodriguez thread shouldn't regress to the terrordome.

Let's bring it back fellas.

I agree. I hate when threads get off track.

Here's some quick hitters from RR's mini press conference tonight (from Scout)

Coach Rod said:

-- he does not know who the Defensive coordinator will be ... a 9th hire, a defensive coach, will be done by the weekend (*add*) and he said he was possible it could be an old-asst. (read: Strip) hired for this spot ... possible.

-- he got a text message from Adrian Arrington saying he's leaving.

-- Mario hasn't been back since bowl game, he missed team meeting yesterday.

-- he thought Mallett was transferring ... he was not at the team meeting. "I don't care ... I care about the guys who want to be at Michigan."

-- There will be a presser Friday at noon with all the assistants.

-- Barwiss is an energetic guy who cares about players as players and as people.

As far as recruiting goes, he said he is low in numbers at QB - he wants 2 - and receiver, and he expects a "full class of 25."

Here's an interesting little tidbit from Scout:
Also, when he said he'd recruited Ryan once, twice, wouldn't do it thrice ... the twice was when Ryan was in Orlando with the team ... he wasn't there yesterday either. And Ryan was telling his teammates during the game that he was "outta here."

I really hate seeing Mallett leave as it was such a high point when we got him, but there is no way to hate the kid for leaving or hold any ill will. He came to Michigan from Texas to run a system and then Coach Carr retired and there was a whole new system that he didn't think fit him.

Yes, we all think he would rock throwing the ball 50 times a game, but he obviously doesn't. If you went to work at a company that used PC's and then they switched to MAC's you'd be pissed too. Sure you could still do your job, but you like PC's and you do a damn good job with PC's so why the fuck should you have to use a damn MAC.

Sorry, but that was the best analogy I had as those fags on the commercial came to mind.

RR family is receiving death threats back in WV. Jesus Christ people, its a God damn game. I hate Tressel and every OSU player, but not that much.

The kicker blamed for the Pitt loss, was harrassed too.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7651472

IBTPDIOT BIOANNTS

Sorry, but that was the best analogy I had

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RR family is receiving death threats back in WV. Jesus Christ people, its a God damn game. I hate Tressel and every OSU player, but not that much.

The kicker blamed for the Pitt loss, was harrassed too.

http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/7651472

IBTPDIOT BIOANNTS

I thought sure this would get at least one reply...from Zip or something.

IBISHBIOT

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In before I shit hot bricks into other's toungues?

Champaign room please.

Tahoe, I'm staring at both of those and my brain's just not working today. I can't even come up with something stupid while I ponder it, like usual.