Decision for Michigan-Michigan State game time, TV to come by Oct. 29

FREE PRESS STAFF REPORTS

The only thing that Michigan and Michigan State know about their intrastate rivalry game on Nov. 3 is kickoff will be either at noon or 3:30 p.m.

The network to show the game remains a mystery.

ABC/ESPN will make a decision on whether ABC will show the U-M/MSU game at 3:30 that day, or the Wisconsin/Ohio State or Purdue/Penn State game.

Which ever game ABC selects, the other two will have noon starts.

Those games will be on either ESPN, ESPN2 or the Big Ten Network.

This Saturday, Michigan hosts Minnesota on ESPN Classic at 3:30. Michigan State goes to Iowa for a noon kickoff on ESPN2. Ohio State, No. 1 in the BCS standings, visits Penn State at 8 p.m. on ABC. Wisconsin hosts Indiana and Purdue hosts Northwestern at noon on the Big Ten Network.

Here's a look at the Big Ten schedule for Nov. 3:
Ball State at Indiana, noon, Big Ten Network

Iowa at Northwestern, noon, ESPN, ESPN2 or Big Ten Network

Michigan at Michigan State, noon or 3:30 p.m., TBD

Wisconsin at Ohio State, noon or 3:30 p.m., TBD

Purdue at Penn State, noon or 3:30 p.m., TBD

Illinois at Minnesota, 8 p.m., Big Ten Network

http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071023/SPORTS0201/710230337/1131/SPORTS0201


Uh-oh, BTN could get U-M vs. MSU

Television assignments for Nov. 3 games are postponed a week; networks offer no clues.

Dave Dye / The Detroit News

EAST LANSING -- Michigan and Michigan State fans will have to wait a few more days to learn the starting time and television network for the Nov. 3 game at Spartan Stadium.

The game will begin at noon or 3:30 p.m., depending on the network, which will be ABC, ESPN, ESPN2 or the Big Ten Network.
It's that last option -- the BTN -- that has some fans in an uproar because the network isn't carried by many cable outlets, including Comcast.

"It's not in our hands," said John Lewandowski, MSU's associate athletic director for media relations. "It's up to the TV networks."
The game times and networks are typically announced almost two weeks in advance, but ABC decided Monday to exercise an option in its contract and delay its pick.

Once ABC picks its game for the 3:30 slot -- it has narrowed its choices to Michigan-Michigan State, Ohio State-Wisconsin and Purdue-Penn State -- the other networks will fall into place, all with noon starts.
"There are a lot of options," said Mark Rudner, the Big Ten's associate commissioner for television administration. "ABC has the right to select one of three games based on the results of this week's games.
"It could go either way depending on what happens. It's their call. They're trying to capture the best game for the Big Ten race."
The deadline for ABC's decision is Monday, but "they usually let us know by late Saturday or Sunday," Rudner said.
"At this point, we just want to wait to make sure we pick the best game available," said Mike Humes, a spokesperson for ABC/ESPN.
If ABC selects the Ohio State-Wisconsin game, Michigan-Michigan State becomes the likely No. 2 choice.

The question is: Who picks No. 2? Is it ESPN or the Big Ten Network?
There have been rumblings that the BTN will have the second choice for the Nov. 3 games, but the conference and the networks won't say.
The contract called for the Big Ten Network to get the second choice (after ABC, before ESPN and ESPN2) for three weeks this season, and to get the third choice (after ABC and ESPN, before ESPN2) three times. The rest of the time the BTN gets the fourth pick.

The Big Ten and the networks have maintained from the start that they won't disclose who gets those second and third picks on a weekly basis.
"I'm not getting into the selection process," Rudner said.
Putting the Michigan-Michigan State game on the Big Ten Network would create quite a controversy in this state, where Comcast is such a dominant cable company.

Comcast has purchased advertising to defend its position in the debate with the Big Ten Network while criticizing the quality of games on the BTN.
A Michigan-Michigan State game seemingly would help disprove that theory, but there's another school of thought that the conference doesn't want the public controversy over its network's inability to reach an agreement with Comcast to get any worse.

The highly-publicized dispute between the Big Ten Network and Comcast has been raging since the middle of the summer after it became clear the two sides were so far apart in negotiations.

The BTN is adamant about being carried on the cable's basic package (no extra fee to subscribers) while Comcast wants to carry the network on a special sports package with an extra fee.

There's no end in sight to the dispute, especially with basketball season around the corner. The BTN will be carrying even more basketball than football games, including about half of the conference games involving both Michigan and Michigan State.


When did the DetNews update their look? I like it much better.

Well, good thing I have it...

The BTN blames Comcast and vice versa. It's all a money grab anyways. I did have to watch some games elsewhere to see Michigan play on the BTN.

By the way, the BTN has to have the worst and most boring halftime show ever.

You notice how Mickey York from FSN was on there for the Northwestern game, haha.

Well, if it does air on the B10 Network, the sports bars will be thrilled.

It seems like they are waiting to announce this to make sure that there isn't enough time to get dish service before the game. Probably just a coincidence.

Comcast wil ante up, if it works out like most other deals. ESPN worked that game well, actually twice with ESPN2, iirc, The Golf Channel, etc.

Luckily DTV has it already.

I really like the reruns of other B10 games. I love the B10, so watching Illinois vs Iowa or something late at night on a rerun is pretty cool. Or watching UofM reruns aint bad either.

btn sucks now, but its going to be awesome during bball season.

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh hells no yo! BT N is the bomb yo!

Who's the commissioner of the Big 10? Gary Bettman?
First, it's the 11 team Big 10 thing.
Now, it's "Hey, let's start a cable network with no cable company to broadcast it!"
And the eleven athletic directors all stood up and said:

http://www.brooklynsucks.com/wp-content/db.jpg

BUT WE'LL DO IT!

while this does suck, i think the real blame goes to msu bootlicks like fansworth who abandon ship at the first sign of trouble:

http://www.thaiwreckdiver.com/images/kcruiserwreckx.jpg

by these boards you'd have sworn football season was officially over with in east lansing.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/graphics/2005/02/22/menf.jpg

I feel marvelous.

If thats the case I'm going to have to go over my grandpas and watch it...God I hate comcast...I really want to get DirecTV

So this game could seriously be on the Big Ten network only? That really chaps my ass since I would have no way to watch it, regardless of the TV provider. It better be on ABC or ESPN.

WOTS is that ABC is taking Ohio St/Wisc

Interesting note...out here they focus on the Mountain West Network (Colorado State, BYU, Air Force, etc) and they air on 17 providers including Comcast, but not Dish Network or Direct TV. Completely the opposite of the BTN.

Anybody heard anything about the TV decision yet?

I don't care if I have to PPV it, I wanna see it.

Well, even though MSU has lost 4 of 5, with the only win being against a now exposed Indiana team, I still think they have the magic when it comes to playing UM, especially in EL, and especially with their hand-picked clock operator, lol.

God I hate comcast...first they take away the NFL Network, now this garbage...

And we haven't beaten the Gophers yet. This game scares me.

God I hate comcast...first they take away the NFL Network, now this garbage...

You're angry at the wrong people. It's the BIG 10's fault for thinking the Cable Gods would bow at their mediocre product's feet.

still...?

The score doesn't indicate it, but Michigan has been in control all game...Ryan Mallett is not ready this year...

It still comes down to the bigger draw. OSU vs Wisky or UofM vs MSU. Tough call for ABC but if I don't get this game, I'll prolly spontaneously combust.

It is the cable network fault. Comcast is doing this to get a bigger piece of the SEC channel. When the SEC channel comes out it will be on extended basic. Just like all the other sport programs that Comcast owns.

Wait until BBall season. You will see a mass exodus from TW and Comcast.

freep says abc picked us up. good news for some. i'll probably be working a bar stool so it wouldnt have mattered, but im glad no one has to miss this one. would have been a bit more fun if we had non-bandwagon sparty fans on the board.

I'm not sure what this means for me being out of that region.

I'll be worried til I see the game start.




October 28, 2007
FREE PRESS STAFF REPORTS

Everyone with a television will be able to watch the intrastate rivalry as Michigan visits Michigan State next Saturday. The game will be on ABC (Channel 7 in Detroit) at 3:30 p.m.
The Big Ten Network will show No. 1 Ohio State visiting Wisconsin.


Everybody who? Everybody? Great Britain? Michigan? USA? Space Shuttle?

Since Big Ten is not part of ESPN Gameplan any longer they have this interesting deal where the Big Ten region will get the game on ABC. If the game is not on ABC in your region it will be on ESPN/ESPN2. So everyone will get to see the UM vs MSU game no matter where you are in the US.

Well, I guess this is the "OGT" for UM-MSU.

This coulda, woulda, shoulda been some kind of week. UM flops in their first two games, and MSU flops in four out of their last five. Though UM "coulda, woulda, maybe shoulda" only have had the Oregon drubbing to blemish their record, it is certainly feasible that Sparty "coulda woulda shoulda" beat Norhtworstern and Iowa, and possibly the Badgers (but that was a tall order).
UM is coming into this game with a whole lot of momentum. Henne, since Oregon, and when healthy, has looked solid. UM's receivers are making big play after big play. They now appear to be genuinely three deep at running back, so that kind of mitigates the question of Hart's health a bit. Defensively, UM is gaining confidence by the minute, as they really held the Goophers in check (not hard, I know, but HEY!) They have playmakers in many positions, and the tackling is about as crisp as I have seen since, dare I say, 1997.
MSU is full of questions right now. On one hand, they still should be feeling pretty good about themselves, as they are literally a few plays from having two more wins, and really did give a legitimate shot to Wisconsin and OSU. But the "moral victories" really seem to take a toll on a team through a long season instead of having the reverse effect. The coaching staff seems to put Ringer on the shelf at times, which seems to disrupt the offensive rhytm. Receivers are still young, and don;t yet have a chemistry with Hoyer. I don;t see the strength in Hoyer's arm, and IMO alot of his soft throws to the sidelines are ripe for picking. Sparty does have a pretty good screen pass scheme, but UM should be able to sniff that out whenever Ringer is moving right or left instead of toward the line of scrimmage.

Not feeling an MSU uprising here. They've had a couple of emotional games back to back, while UM, though pushed by the Goophers, knew they would prevail pretty easily once they stopped tripping over themselves offensively.

And hell, Michigan seems to have found a field goal kicker! There's joy in Ann Arbor!

I like UM 48-17.

Watching Henne be able to get into a rhythm throwing the ball vs. Illinois was cool, when he was in anyway. That being said let's go, um, 27-13 Hugh Jackmans.

Good stuff, the rest of michigan's schedule is on local tv...hopefully by this time next year BTN will be on Comcast...

ABC at 3:30 it is.

as I said in some other thread: 27-13 Hugh Jackmans.

It should be noted that while Wilma and Betty are out, Fred, Barney, and myself will have the cave all to ourselves to enjoy this game.

So ABC decided that more people would watch um-msu than osu-wisc? It would seem like osu-wisc would be much more attractive from the national perspective.

ABC at 3:30 it is.

Thanks for the update. Shit, Texas and Oklahoma is the same time on ABC. No way they show U of M and MSU out here.

BTN to the rescue?

I'm hosed. ABC has Texas and OU.

I'm predicting Oklahoma to win this game 28-21.

So everyone isn't everyone?

I'm hosed. ABC has Texas and OU.

I believe that it will be on ESPN for the non-ABC Regional coverage areas

I'm predicting Oklahoma to win this game 28-21.

And what would the score be if Texas' defense shows up?

What if the wind is coming from the SE?

I just checked my digital guide for Sat and I'm getting UCLA vs AZ, but on ESPN its Cinci vs South Florida or MSU vs UofM.

I'll be sweating this till I see the game.

BTN and BTNa has 'To be announced' So I hoping to get it.

OSU/Wisco is on the BTN for sure

The BTN has the right to show every Big Ten team at least once, and OSU hasn't been on yet.

I guess I'm the only one who gets the joke. Texas and oklahoma played about four weeks ago, and OU won 28-21.
In a sense, I'm pulling a bukdow here.

The BTN has the right to show every Big Ten team at least once, and OSU hasn't been on yet.

Deservedly so, they don't lose to Appy State. :dismissed:

As I was walking down the sidewalk today, I was released into a nether-realm where I felt Saturday`s game. The score will be, MSU 35 UM 30.

I think you are having a premonition much like my Aunt Gootie had a few years back. She predicted that the japanese would bomb Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941. However, she made that prediction in July of 1986.
Your premonition is from a game long ago, when MSU football was relevant.

As I was walking down the sidewalk today, I was released into a nether-realm where I felt Saturday`s game. The score will be, MSU 35 UM 30.

Did you hit your head on the bookcase of Smithsonian magazines?

A premonition? A "nether realm"? Sounds like this:

http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/head_up_ass.jpg

I think you are having a premonition much like my Aunt Gootie had a few years back. She predicted that the japanese would bomb Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941. However, she made that prediction in July of 1986.
Your premonition is from a game long ago, when MSU football was relevant.
Well, I had just left the Peanut Barrel after a few afternoon imbibements, but nonetheless, this was a football epiphany. Who am I to question. I just try to humbly bring the word of the Great Football to the masses.

You better watch yourself. Too many Shirley Temples makes for a bad bukdow!

You better watch yourself. Too many Shirley Temples makes for a bad bukdow!
Well, at least you are talking about girls now. Albeit 8 year old girls.

Well, I had just left the Peanut Barrel after a few afternoon imbibements, but nonetheless, this was a football epiphany. Who am I to question. I just try to humbly bring the word of the Great Football to the masses.

Michigan State = great football?

Well, at least you are talking about girls now. Albeit 8 year old girls.

http://www.planetdan.net/pics/misc/charlesreilly.gif

Well, at least you are talking about girls now. Albeit 8 year old girls.

Or a 79 year old.

bukdow, you're a pederast?

My bad, pederasts are into young BOYS.

Way to ruin the game for me, buk. What's the point of even watching now?

I'm going to go watch Michigan/Oregon highlights.

Why don't you watch Michigan/Appalachian State highlights? Hmm?

Because I TIVOed that game and I haven't watched it yet. I don't want to spoil the ending. I bet Michigan embarrassed those bums!

LMAO @ Appalachian State even standing a chance in The Big House...might as well not waste your time.

funny, i had a premonition too. mine was about doc tre's plans for saturday afternooon:

http://americansfortruth.com/uploads/2007/05/iml-2006-009.jpg

LOL

There's nothing like gay self torture to revive a Sparty's spirits!

I wonder if Dantonio has a timeclock counting down the hours until the next Powerfisting Convention

The UM vs MSU game will be on ESPN for you then. The deal is if the Big Ten game is not on ABC it will be on ESPN or ESPN2.

If that does not happen to you, write the Big Ten and let them know they ESPN is not following through on the contract they signed.

Michigan 34

Michigan State 14


I seriously expect Hart to rush for 200+, the front four of MSU (Baldwin, Wilson, Nwagbuo, and Saint-Dic should get absolutely obliterated off the ball by UM's OL) If Mallett is to play, than they will pound the rock all day, and MSU's terrible LB corp will be defenseless...

I'm surprised that UM is only favored by 4, even though that sounds about right to me.

UM 27
MSU 20

But if MSU's D shows up...lol

That's because it's in East Lansing! DUH!

The UM vs MSU game will be on ESPN for you then. The deal is if the Big Ten game is not on ABC it will be on ESPN or ESPN2.

If that does not happen to you, write the Big Ten and let them know they ESPN is not following through on the contract they signed.

I think you are right. This is what yahoo TV says for me:


1:30pm - 4:30pm, ESPN (34) College Football : "Michigan-Michigan State or Cincinnati-South Florida"

Michigan at Michigan State or Cincinnati at South Florida.

I am hearing more and more that neither one will play tomorrow. What are you overly involved blue and yellow freaks hearing?

That MSU's defense may or may not show up...

This is the game I've been waiting for. Watch Ringer outpace Hart in yards and a MSU win, 24-17.

http://www.ttuhsc.edu/it/images/confidentMan.jpg

I'm confident...

About what mailman?

I'm confident about being confident about...well, you know....

bukdow, you're a born again Christian...did you just happen to pray to God that Henne and Hart would indeed be out?

I thought we held them out of previous games to get ready for this one. Me thinks they'll play.

Hart is going to play and is close to healthy.

Henne, well that is another matter.

Guess what I'VE got under the tree for overly involved blue freaks? A game with Michigan State! Enjoy!

http://www.tvguide.com/images/pgimg/santa-claus-coming-town.jpg

Hart is fine...Henne is no where near 100%

This is the game I've been waiting for. Watch Ringer outpace Hart in yards and a MSU win, 24-17.


Yeah right...name one team over .500 Javon Ringer has torched...

Hart will rush for 200+

That MSU's defense may or may not show up...


Ervin Baldwin will be Jake Longs bitch...again

Maybe, but Jonal on the other side won't be.....

Yeah right...name one team over .500 Javon Ringer has torched...

Hart will rush for 200+

Indiana Hoosiers come to mind. Hart is still hurting from that ankle injury, so I'll give him 100+ yds.

Maybe, but Jonal on the other side won't be.....


Jonal Saint-Dic hasn't done anything since the Spartans were 4-0...he's overrated

Jonal Saint-Dic hasn't done anything since the Spartans were 4-0...he's overrated

No shit. He's got a french sounding name. When the going gets tough, the French go shopping

http://www.filmreference.com/images/sjff_03_img1220.jpg definitly looking forward to a bit of the ol' ultra violence tomorrow.

O/U on Brian Hoyer overthrows


7.5

I saw some of Lloyd's press conference yesterday and I have to say it was purely electric.

Any word on Henne?

Well, that one dude on College Football live yesterday said they'd have both Henne and Hart for today.

Chengalas is of the opinion that "we will see a lot of Mallett"...

not sure how much stock I put into that, Angelique has been wrong before...

27 minutes till I know if I get the game. I might still get Cinci vs South Florida.

27 minutes till I know if I get the game. I might still get Cinci vs South Florida.


man that would suck...however whichever game you have on ABC, the opposite will be on ESPN

So if on ABC you have So. Fla/Cinci, than UM/MSU will be on ESPN...and vice versa...

now if you don't have cable...then...

ABC I have UCLA vs Az, ESPN I have "Cinci vs S Florida or Michigan vs Michigan State"...is what the digital guide says.

I'll prolly get it but til I see the game, I'm not happy.

If I were you Tahoe, these would be some of the roughest, most gut-wrenching 14 minutes of 2007...

Terry Foster: "They aren't little brothers any longer, they're little chumps"

12

Terry Foster: "They aren't Little Brothers any longer, they're Little Chumps"


ha...Drew Sharp looks like he has leprosy

For once I agree with Drew Sharp...

Anybody know who the broadcast team is?

The Sparty faithful would love it to be "Mr. Maize and Blue" himself, Bob Greise.

I'd love to get a "you are looking live" from Brent Musberger right about now.

I guarantee it's going to be Nessler/Griese and BONNIE BERNSTEIN!!!!!!!!!!!

...and that one fat fuck.

Paul MaGuire

I'd let Bonnie interview me anytime...


Bonnie > EA

I'd let Bonnie blow me anytime.

What if its Pam Ward and Andre Ware? I'd probably go in the garage and drink the antifreeze.

Bonnie would be lovely, but I wouldn't mind Lisa Salters either...

Bonnie would be lovely, but I wouldn't mind Lisa Salters either...


How about Holly Rowe, Pam Oliver, or Sage Steele?

Shelly Smith.


Yummmm

lol, go check my thread in the Champagne Room for a true beauty...

http://img.viacomlocalnetworks.com/images_sizedimage_310153716/lg

a google image search brought me that...anyone know who that is?

wind, trees or snow?

http://www.fulmersbelly.com/img/shelleysmith.jpg

there you go Glenn

GOT THE GAME! I hope I'm as pumped at the end of the game.

she look about 2 bills lighter there than she does now

your pic is that Comcast bitch, isn't it?

I honestly don't know, which is why I asked...

Here's one for Wil:

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/02-06/0202werder.jpg
Ed Werder

And I was right, Brad/Griese/fatty...AND BONNIE!!!

My buddy always says the MSU unis remind him of the puke that girl hurled in the Excorcist. But that puke was lighter or something.

sparty bows down to michigan, even coach D knows it.

where's the best back in the Big 10? He scared like bukdow is of fighting me?

There he is!

buckdow just crapped himself seeing mike hart dressed for the game.

Damn, Hart pancaked #3

What's going on with ABC? GET IT FIXED FAGGOTS!!

are the dancing bears allready making their way to the field?

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Pee yew! State fans!

A throw on first down to the TE? Sweet!

His ankle looked ok there

ringer what?! lol, wheres that faggot tre today?

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lol, wheres that faggot tre today?

I'll fight him too...

Nice drive for a TD

poor it on. i said it EARLY in the season when bucky and tre were spartying hard: this is a 17 point spread.

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/images/fredMcLeod.jpg
"Too easy!"

poor it on. i said it EARLY in the season when bucky and tre were spartying hard: this is a 17 point spread.

On paper maybe 21-24 but rivalries are rivalries partly cuz the team that shouldn't win doesn't always win.

Graham OUCH!

WHAT A HIT!! START THE THREAD!!

how is hart going to pile up his stats when we're only playing with half a field?

That was a Graham Cracker.

LOL ROTFLMAO. Get it? Cracker he cracked him? the sound kind of cracked. Oh man I crack myself up some times. LOL ROTFLMAO Graham cracker ha ha ha.

On paper maybe 21-24 but rivalries are rivalries partly cuz the team that shouldn't win doesn't always win.

right, i think...

WHAT A HIT!! START THE THREAD!!

boom! bang!

my bad "The team that SHOULD win, doesn't always win.

Manny catches that ball

best player in this game is Zoltan Mesko

LOL ROTFLMAO. Get it? Cracker he cracked him? the sound kind of cracked. Oh man I crack myself up some times. LOL ROTFLMAO Graham cracker ha ha ha.


LOL

ahhhhhhhhahahaha

our secondary does look like crap today, we need to get that pass rush really going.

Did you just refer to the secondary that plays for a team that attends an elitist fucktard school you've never been to as "our secondary"?



http://www.muntedmess.com/images/posts/high-five-1.jpg

thats better.

Nice timing!

Slow bastard.

If you think that post was funny impressive, not only do I subscribe to Funny Magazine, I actually read it. I have funny curiousity. Funny Magazine is for the funny elite.

We need to punch this in for 7 though.

Mike Hart and Jason Maxiell must have the same work-out routine...

Michigan State is the 2nd worst team in the Big Ten...Minnesota is probably the worst

Hart is on. Definately making the first guy miss.

TD

14-3...

Spartans are garbage...

are we allowed to count this game in the ringer / hart debate or is it not allowed? i'd love to ask sparty, but they seem to be in hiding:

http://www.bradblog.com/Images/OsamaBush.jpg

Now I know why Keith Nichol chose Oklahoma, he'd rather sit all 4 years behind Sam Bradford than get obliterated for 4 years at MSU

Man did Sparty D suck right there. 3 receivers and 1 and a half defenders.

Hart is on. Definately making the first guy miss.

TD


Kaleb Thornhill

I have a feeling bukdow may be exposed as a bigger fraud than Sylvia Browne.

LOL lost it in the sun. The sun was behind him.

Definately holding

If Hart deosn't get banged up there, we run the ball on that 3rd and 3. Injuries are a part of the game.

as much as i was looking forward to taking sparty over my knee and giving the annual spanking, this game sucks, sparty sucks. i think im going to spend most of the game watching some sec action.

Michigan's offense, especially with Zolton Mesko deciding that 30 yard punts are the way to land an NFL job: Two hand offs to Hart, and a shitty pass by weak armed Henne. MSU knows it's coming.
Now Hart is dinged again. Any wonder as to when that would happen?

I'm looking forward to the Ducks vs AZ St game right after this one.

id put mallett in, sparty is toast. we have bigger fish to fry with osu. no sense in wasting hart henne on these guys.

Yawn, time for another 3rd down pass to fall incomplete.

bold statement: asu> msu.

Fuck a Henne. This kid has not even apporached how good everyone thought he'd be after a great freshman season. In fact, he's never been as good as he was in his first year.

bold statement: asu> msu.


Appalachian State?

Thank goodness for Mathews, I was about to take a nap.

Remember Sparty came back on the Pink Tide.

Fuck a Henne. This kid has not even apporached how good everyone thought he'd be after a great freshman season. In fact, he's never been as good as he was in his first year.

his shoulder is still hurting, it looks. but what about the Illinois game. i believe you were singing a different tune after that one.

c'mon, lets keep it cogent here.

god damnit. That return brought so much promise :emo kid:

YES! Third and six, and we throw a four yard pass. YES! Michigan's offense, as sold by Lloyd Carr and Mike DeBord.
Remember Michigan fans, this could continue for many years, as we all know that Lloyd Carr wants Mike DeBord to replace him.

Wow, nice throw Chadwick.

"my wife ran off with my best friend and i miss him". lol.

Chad Henne MUST be related to Samuel B Morse, cuz he is a telegraphin' mutha fucka

Were they being serious or were they making fun of country?

michigan gets aggresive and goes for it on 4th down and now state threatens. are we going to criticize lloyd for that one too??

Man, this game is a mess.

We missed too many opportunities to score for me to feel comfortable. Those things have a way of coming back to haunt you.

his shoulder is still hurting, it looks. but what about the Illinois game. i believe you were singing a different tune after that one.

c'mon, lets keep it cogent here.

The Illinois game was great, and Henne played well and was tough. But the fact is he doesn't lead a team like a four year starter should, telegraphs too much, and hasn't been as good as he was as a freshman. That's coaching, not Henne. UM (Quarterback U) has pretty much wasted Henne's talent.

michigan gets aggresive and goes for it on 4th down and now state threatens. are we going to criticize lloyd for that one too??

I like the call, but Henne never looked off Manningham and threw at three MSU defenders.
Of course, that came after the four yard pass on Third and seven.
You seem to not be able to understand the overall picture. That's fine, because you probably enjoy watching this shit, unlike those of us who watch this shit and wretch, but continue to watch.

Even when Chad Henne's playing on a quarter tank, he's still 50 billion times the QB Brian Hoyer will ever amount to be...

We missed too many opportunities to score for me to feel comfortable. Those things have a way of coming back to haunt you.


I agree on most occassions, but when your playing Vs. THAT MSU offense, it doesn't bother me at all...

our defense has been lethal

I like the call, but Henne never looked off Manningham and threw at three MSU defenders.
Of course, that came after the four yard pass on Third and seven.
You seem to not be able to understand the overall picture. That's fine, because you probably enjoy watching this shit, unlike those of us who watch this shit and wretch, but continue to watch.


I'm in tears as I type this.

Will: You scare me.

15 yards rushing from a crew that has the best rb in the big ten. pretty good showing by UM's d in the first half.

nice throw while moving from hoyer.

Ron English getting schooled after halftime.

15 yards rushing from a crew that has the best rb in the big ten. pretty good showing by UM's d in the first half.



Ringer isn't even close to the best RB in the Big Ten

watch them have an 8 minute drive and only come away w/ 3

Is Samantha Who? a good show...?


Amazing how Christina Applegate is still somewhat hot

watch them have an 8 minute drive and only come away w/ 3


or 7

Oh well...took 'em 38+ minutes to finally get a score...time to slam it down their throats w/ 20

I sense an upset. UM, as usual, is playing incredibly uninspiring football. They couldn't capitalize on MSU playing like complete dung in the first half, couldn;t move the ball enough.
A good team would have been up 21 or 24-3 at least.

Of course, OSU was up 24-0 on these guys, but gave up two lightning quick defensive scores to let tham back in. MSU's offense was not allowed to do what it just did to Michigan.

I am NOT looking forward to this years UM-OSU game.

No upset...Michigan is the better football team...they need Hart to get back in there, MSU's front four still can't get to Henne, just need to make better throws...

It's one score Zip, why so pessimistic...?

Shouldn't Tom Izzo be coaching his 0-1 basketball team right now?

Shouldn't Chad Henne actually be hitting his receivers?

Manningham has Henderson beat on every play...Chad needs to put it there...

yup. that was one inch from being a beauty, though.

hopefully they run the same play...that was an easy 6

wow, Saint-Dic's first sack since the Pitt. game

I'm on the verge of throwing up here.

Due for a Hoyer pick

I really hope Michigan doesn't play this badly on offense next week.

I really hope Michigan doesn't play this badly on offense next week.


Henne is obviously not 100%, you almost want to see Mallett play b/c at least he can put it there on those deep balls to Mario...


dare i say

on the other hand, henne is still a much qb, even with a bum throwing shoulder. the last thing we need is mallett fumbling the ball all over.

biggest play of the game so far right here.

Damn, I left for a lil while and you guys couldn't hold down the fort?

yeah...

hopefully a big stop

its gonna be caulcrick

Review that shit

HART

man...Harts done for the game I bet

MARIO! Fucking HUGE.

MANNINGHAM BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lil push off there, but tough shit

FUCK YES CHAD, RISKY PLAY...HENDERSON IS A PIECE OF SHIT OF A CB

hopefully they run the same play...that was an easy 6

uh huh.

man...Harts done for the game I bet

Cue the "Mouth Hart" is a problem thread, lol.

SUPER FUCKING MARIO, #1

At least Zach held on there.

Where has Adrian Arrington been today?

fuck

at least Zoltan Mesko has some breathing room

UGHAHFHAHFSHGAJGDGSJDGHGJGJDESGHJGKJSAGAHHHHH

UGHAHFHAHFSHGAJGDGSJDGHGJGJDESGHJGKJSAGAHHHHH



Seconded

THIRDED.

unbelievable.

ahhh. shit

fuckinsonofabitch

That's why he's the BEST.

That was Ringer, right?

crable missed the tackle

something tells me hart is going to see the field in the 4th. btw, i aint scared yet. sparty is due for a melt down in 4...3...2...

That was an awesome defensive play by Crable. It might mean something or not, but you don't see that too often.

something tells me hart is going to see the field in the 4th. btw, i aint scared yet. sparty is due for a melt down in 4...3...2...


agreed

both one of the greatest runs and one of the greatest tackles I've ever seen on one play.

BTW, I'm going to be very happy when Henne is no longer on this team. He's almost as god awful on the road as Navarre was. The score of this game should be 28-10 if he could hit a wide open WR.

That was an awesome defensive play by Crable. It might mean something or not, but you don't see that too often.


if MSU only walks away w/ 3 than it was huge

lol, if State score a TD I can almost guarantee a DrTre return.

damnit

And here he comes...

I'm awaiting the meltdown...Sparty Nation will have 2 heartbreakers in one weekend...both coming from in-state foes

Stop typing, Wil...lol.

Stop typing, Wil...lol.


I'm venting

can they find someone off the bench to throw it to manningham, since their current guy looks totally incapable of throwing an accurate pass?

Let's see what these blue and yellow clad pussies are made of.

can they find someone off the bench to throw it to manningham, since their current guy looks totally incapable of throwing an accurate pass?


Nick Sheridan baby

That's why he's the BEST.

That was Ringer, right?

iirc, Hart was not the best cuz he lacked that break away speed and would get caught from behind. Ringer doesn't get caught from behind...cough cough cough