OGT: MSU at ND (9/19/09, 3:30 pm EST)

[Glenn]

ND favored by 11.

But they're not any good, right?

[Glenn]

I'm looking forward to bukdow starting "his" MSU game thread.

[Timone]

So, how much better is UM's secondary than MSU's?

I know I voted for the MSU wins option, but I like the Irish 45-31 if the Sparty defense doesn't show up, 35-21 if it does.

[WTFchris]

Hard to say. You could say U of M will wake up ND, but CMU might wake MSU up too. I'm taking ND by 4, but I wouldn't be shocked to see MSU beat them either.

[Fool]

Always support the conference. College sports is the only time it makes sense to because of the voting. Always want the conference to win.

[WTFchris]

I agree. I always vote for Big Ten to do well.

1) it helps shut up critics of the conference

2) it improves your strength of schedule.

Even though #2 is a non factor, I'd always root for MSU against all but U of M and CMU.

BTW, I was torn watching Saturday nights game. Can't stand OSU or USC. Wasn't sure if I should root for OSU based on #1 and #2 above, or root against them based on a bigger hatred. In the end I rooted against them. Every time I saw the vest and when I saw the looks on the OSU faces at the end...it was certainly the right call.

[Glenn]

Disagre with you, Fool.

They have a win in the bank against ND, they need them to look good the rest of the way.

It will help UM a lot in the cpu rankings.

[Glenn]

And I know they play MSU too, but the ND win is in the bank, and with the national love that ND gets, that could really help UM

[WTFchris]

That is true. Say ND finishes ranked higher than MSU. It looks better to have that signature win over that better team. That being said, it won't matter because I think both will end up ranked but not in BCS bowls.

ND does have an easier schedule tough.

[Glenn]

Not to mention that another MSU loss pushes them further down on the bowl game pecking order, and possibly UM up.

Plus, it's always more fun when MSU loses "big" games.