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    Is it too early for a WTF unofficial Democratic Presidential poll?

    I'll do the Republican poll since I'm the only one who'll more than likely be voting on that side...

    1 vote for Rudy G.

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    If I was gonna vote Republican, I'd vote Rudy G all the way.
    Ya gotta love a guy that will wear a dress to get cheap laughs.
    I mean, I wear a dress, people stare(even though I think I have good taste, and NEVER clash). Rudy wears a dress, he brings the house down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe
    Is it too early for a WTF unofficial Democratic Presidential poll?

    I'll do the Republican poll since I'm the only one who'll more than likely be voting on that side...

    1 vote for Rudy G.
    Create a separate thread for this. I think Franken deserves his own thread.

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    Is this a poll of who you want to be President who's running, who you want to be Pres who's not decided, who's gonna be the Presidential nominee for the parties, who's gonna win, etc?

    For Democratic candidates, I like Bill Richardson, but I doubt he makes it in. If Hillary made it in, even if she won, she'd set the party back 10 years. I don't think Obama's relative inexperience will be held against him if he shows he can get the right people surrounding him (which is what good Presidents do, among other things) because he's generally made the right calls (which isn't the case for John Edwards, co-sponsor of the Iraq war resolution).

    For Republican candidates, I'm having a hard time envisioning any of the big candidates making it through a Republican primary, not without the social conservatives putting up a third party candidate. A pro-choice, pro-gun, pro-gay military-hating wife-cheater like Giuliani has too many negatives. I could see someone like Huckabee or Brownback pulling an upset.

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    I thought Glennn was the pollmeister. Thought it might be mildly interesting to see who the board wants for a Dem candidate even though its early.

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    Hillary Obama dust up...

    I love the primary season.

    edit...how do you bold or highlight worthwhile paragraphs?


    WASHINGTON — The battle to be the 2008 Democratic candidate for president went negative Wednesday, as leading contenders Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama got into a virtual shouting match.

    With more than a year and a half remaining before the next presidential election, the campaigns exchanged heated words after Clinton suggested Obama return funds to Hollywood bigwig David Geffen, who insulted Clinton in a newspaper article.

    "We aren’t going to get in the middle of a disagreement between the Clintons and someone who was once one of their biggest supporters. It is ironic that the Clintons had no problem with David Geffen when was raising them $18 million and sleeping at their invitation in the Lincoln bedroom," Obama campaign communications director Robert Gibbs said in a statement that was e-mailed to the news media.

    Geffen, a former "Friend of Bill," co-hosted — with Hollywood heavyweights Steven Spielberg and Jeffrey Katzenberg — a star-studded, $1.3 million fundraiser for Obama on Tuesday night in Beverly Hills.

    Among the 300 contributors who forked over $2,300 each were George Clooney, Barbra Streisand, Jennifer Aniston, Ben Stiller, Eddie Murphy and Morgan Freeman. Also in attendance were Dixie Chick Natalie Maines and director Ron Howard.

    Hillary Clinton Denies That Her Campaign Traded Money for Endorsement From Black Leader History-Making Presidency Would Highlight Both Clintons Minnesota Congressman Ellison Endorses Barack Obama for President Sen. Barack Obama Pulls In $1.3 Million at Hollywood Fundraiser Geffen became a former FOB in 2001 after Bill Clinton refused to pardon Leonard Peltier, a Chippewa Indian convicted of killing two FBI agents in a 1977 shootout on South Dakota's Pine Ridge Indian Reservation. Geffen, who believes Peltier was framed and falsely convicted, suggested he was more deserving of a pardon than fugitive financier Marc Rich, whom Clinton excused just before leaving office.

    Clinton acknowledged in 2001 that he and Geffen were no longer buddies, saying Geffen would barely take his phone calls. Geffen's consultant on the Peltier matter was Andy Spahn, who had an active role in Tuesday night's Obama rally.

    Geffen is apparently still holding a grudge against the Clintons. In remarks to New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd that appeared in Wednesday's edition, the music producer suggested that the Clintons have had their day and it's time for new blood in the White House.

    “Not since the Vietnam War has there been this level of disappointment in the behavior of America throughout the world, and I don’t think that another incredibly polarizing figure, no matter how smart she is and no matter how ambitious she is — and God knows, is there anybody more ambitious than Hillary Clinton? — can bring the country together," he was quoted as saying.

    “Obama is inspirational, and he’s not from the Bush royal family or the Clinton royal family,” Geffen added.

    Geffen was particularly bitter about Sen. Clinton's position on Iraq. “It’s not a very big thing to say, ‘I made a mistake’ on the war, and typical of Hillary Clinton that she can’t.... She’s so advised by so many smart advisers who are covering every base. I think that America was better served when the candidates were chosen in smoke-filled rooms.”

    While Clinton has her own Hollywood fundraiser next month — and even co-host Spielberg has not made an endorsement for Obama or anyone else yet — Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson issued his own statement Wednesday calling on Obama to disavow his top money man.

    "While Senator Obama was denouncing slash and burn politics yesterday, his campaign's finance chair was viciously and personally attacking Senator Clinton and her husband. If Senator Obama is indeed sincere about his repeated claims to change the tone of our politics, he should immediately denounce these remarks, remove Mr. Geffen from his campaign and return his money," Wolfson said.

    "While Democrats should engage in a vigorous debate on the issues, there is no place in our party or our politics for the kind of personal insults made by Senator Obama's principal fundraiser," Wolfson added.

    Later in the day, Geffen sent a retort to the Clinton camp.

    "Despite reports to the contrary, I am not the campaign finance chair and have no formal role in the Obama campaign, nor will I, other than to continue to offer my strongest possible personal support for his candidacy," he said. "My comments, which were quoted accurately by Maureen Dowd, reflect solely my personal beliefs regarding the Clintons. Thank You."

    Obama, who is not about to give up such a prolific money earner, turned the criticism around on Clinton and rebuked her for accepting the support of South Carolina state Sen. Robert Ford.

    Ford, an African-American, earlier this month said he was supporting Clinton because America would never elect a black president and Obama would only bring down the party in state and local races in 2008.

    "We'd lose the House and the Senate and the governors and everything. I'm a gambling man. I love Obama, but I'm not going to kill myself," Ford said.

    Obama said on Wednesday: "It is also ironic that Senator Clinton lavished praise on Monday and is fully willing to accept today the support of South Carolina State Sen. Robert Ford, who said if Barack Obama were to win the nomination, he would drag down the rest of the Democratic Party because ’he's black.’"

    Last edited by Tahoe; 02-21-2007 at 06:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe
    I love the primary season.

    edit...how do you bold or highlight worthwhile paragraphs?
    986 posts and you dont know how to bold?

    its [b....]text[/b]

    (no dots obviously)
    Quiet err, im transmitting rage

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdt87
    986 posts and you dont know how to bold?

    its [b....]text[/b]

    (no dots obviously)
    Hell yea I know how. I was just seeing if anyone would bite?

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    I love the Clintons, and don't consider Chelsea (on a good day) to even be borderline. I'd hit it.
    But, it's time to turn this thing over to some new blood.
    Hellllloooo Obama!
    Winning breeds confidence. Losing breeds reality.

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    Calling Uncle Mxy!
    Hey, whether or not you are a democrat, lemme ax ya dis:
    What does a potentially vitriolic battle between Hillary and Obama do to the Democratic party?
    If it gets particularly contentious, do you see a potential split between white liberals and blacks afterward?
    I see this as a dangerous point for the Dems. It looks like Hillary is returning to Clinton Roots as a candidate who will take the gloves off and stop at nothing to get elected. If she comes at Obama hard, a guy who seems to be about as good and untainted a candidate as you can muster, it could have lingering effects.
    As I said before, love the Clintons, but please, just go off into the sunset now, folks.
    Winning breeds confidence. Losing breeds reality.

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