OGT: Michigan @ Notre Dame

[Black Dynamite]

screw playing chumps in the preseason, get some real games lloyd.

New Coordinator and no preseason to test things out. Honestly we're lucky we are playing the irish this early. Because i'm sure they'd want another game to get familiar with the new playbook. But I do think michigan has a better team. But Notre Dame has a better coach. So it balances out to another nail biter.

Gutz, if you think Michigan has a better team than Notre Dame, you are smoking some serious shit. Don't get me wrong, Michigan's Defense is very good. So is their running game. However, Notre Dame is the #1 or #2 team in the nation. The best coach in the game in my opinion, Top 3 quarterback, very good running back, two great wide outs, and a much much improved defense. I'm sorry, but if Michigan is going to beat ND, it's going to take some luck for it to happen. I'm not saying it won't happen, but it's not likely.

Whatever. Notre Dame is overrated talent wise. theres a reason they are great now and its coaching. By far better coaching than the wolverines. But they are just as far behind the wolverines in talent. You need to stop drinking the espn Irish kool aid. Even last year USC said it was the playcalling that caught them off guard, not the talent. Pete carroll got severely outcoached, but luckily his team was killing in the talent department enough to beat the barely.

Take away charlie weiss and these guys dont make it any higher than 20 on the College rankings IMO. Its amazing how people think the talent has shot up ten fold at notre dame after one year. It will eventually, but these leftovers are not better talent wise than Michigan.

[Baker]

I don't know man. ND brought in a Top 3 recruiting class and their offensive playmakers have serious talent. Defensive talent probably equals things out. I don't disagree that they have close to the same talent.

I totally disagree that Michigan is as good as ND. Not even close IMO.

[Black Dynamite]

I don't know man. ND brought in a Top 3 recruiting class and their offensive playmakers have serious talent. Defensive talent probably equals things out. I don't disagree that they have close to the same talent.

I totally disagree that Michigan is as good as ND. Not even close IMO.

Kool aid kool Aid Kool Aid.

Would you say that about them if weiss wasn't the coach?

[Hermy]

I would, I don't think UM has top 15 talent, ND is top 10 at worst.

[slydiggity]

Ok... Jethro... It's been a couple of days... and there's some pretty serious talk about your boys not being able to handle theirs. You've been pretty quiet on the subject as well. That's not a good sign. Show me sumthin', cuz if they pull off the upset... It's not gonna mean as much when you're blowing this page up.

[Jethro34]

Hey fellas

I moved some of the posts from the last page in the CMU game thread because they had more to do with Notre Dame. I apologize if there were more that should be moved or anything like that, but get off me.

I haven't had any time at all this week and the browsers at the high school I'm teaching at block all message boards, so I can't even get on between classes, during lunch, or during prep.

This game. Wow. It's huge, that's for sure. The only bigger game Saturday is Auburn-LSU. People are spoon feeding the victory to Notre Dame.

Whatever. This game was as close as two teams can play for most of the time last year. Obviously both teams are better, but there is no evidence to suggest Notre Dame has improved more than Michigan. Both teams still have weaknesses. The advantage Notre Dame has is that they have more blowout ability. Could they win in a blowout? Yes. Could they win a close game? Yes. Could Michigan win a close game? Yes. Could Michigan blow out Notre Dame? I really doubt it.

But Michigan is pissed. They will be ready and they WILL punch Notre Dame in the mouth. I'm predicting a Michigan victory, 27-21.

There, I said it. Everyone that doubted whether or not I would come with it is silenced. If we lose, bring it on. I'll show up and take it as soon as I can - but that won't likely be very soon because my schedule isn't getting any lighter. You all knew this was coming for me, and it's a big reason (not necessarily the only one) that I'm not in the Syndicate.

Anyhow, if Michigan wins my gloating will be limited. I won't be saying I told you Michigan was the far better team, because I think the two are very close. What I WILL be saying is I told you so to the people that hate on Michigan's ability to win a big game. If Michigan loses I will shoot Jeff Samardjia and Tom Zbikowski.

Oh, and please don't ever claim that something from "Around The Horn" is a valid point. We all know that more worthless comments are spewed on that show than any other sports show not named First and Ten.

[darkobetterthanmelo]

What do Notre Dame (3), UCLA, Washington, Oregon and Wisconsin have in common? You all know.

Notre Dame 42-Michigan 14

[b-diddy]

im trying to not let my hopes get up, but im loving the position michigan is in this week.

everyone is picking ND. ND couldnt have had a more glorious week than their last.

i know i said ND had the advantage, having played real competition. but UM hasnt showed its hand yet, and we have every incentive in the world to go down there and kick their ass.

im scared of michigan going down early. if we go down 10 or more in the first quarter, lloyd will abandon the run and we'll be fucked, ala last year.

but i agree with guts, i think the talent level with these two teams is pretty even. and if things work out even slightly in our favor, we should win.

[Baker]

Wow Jethro! UM will punch ND in the mouth? Very Bold. I'll give you props for a bold prediction.

You said you don't have any proof that ND has improved more than Michigan? How about the fact that they dominated Penn State more than UM dominated Vandy and CMU. That is some pretty significant proof.

[Jethro34]

Wow Jethro! UM will punch ND in the mouth? Very Bold. I'll give you props for a bold prediction.

You said you don't have any proof that ND has improved more than Michigan? How about the fact that they dominated Penn State more than UM dominated Vandy and CMU. That is some pretty significant proof.

Final score of Notre Dame v Penn State = 41-17
Final score of Michigan v Central Mich = 41-17
So what were you saying?
They almost lost to unranked Georgia Tech. The Penn State team they beat didn't exactly destroy Akron. Notre Dame is definitely beatable.

So, what happened to your proof?

And by the way, it is possible for me and you to both be right to some extent. Michigan can punch ND in the mouth and still lose. Dumb penalties, special teams mistakes, turnovers and a key missed assignment or two can swing a game big time. But win or lose, Notre Dame is going to have all they can handle tomorrow.