Would you like to see Ben stay or go?

[Glenn]

It seems like there is a lot of division on this.

Two options, he re-signs and stays or he's gone and we get a sign and trade TBD.

I know that it largely depends on who is involved in the sign and trade, but let's not get hung up on details. Would you prefer that he re-sign or would you prefer that we get the best offer that we can get for him?

[Hermy]

Sorry, but if you say go you are a stright up fucking moron. I have yet to see an alternative plan that comes anywhere close to the value we get from Ben, and any arguement about Ben "crippling" us is ass, we'll be well over the cap the entire 4 years. There are 0 arguements for him to go besides "I don't like it when he complains to refs".

[Glenn]

I guess there is not as much division as I thought.

Nice intimidating post Herm, and B-Diddy calls me the master of skewing poll results, lol.

[b-diddy]

im surprised you didnt opt with "do you not want ben not to sign with a team that is not the pistons?". you must have been in a hurry when you posted this one.

hermy, you forgot an argument. if we go over the tax, bill davidson's net worth might go down 0.0000000000001%. no way we should let ben's greedy ass get market value when bill has to feed his children.

[Hermy]

^touche BD.

I roll hard GD.

[defrocked]

I don't think we can win with this current squad, so I went with a sign and trade. I think Ben is enticing enough to some team to get a nice sign and trade package including some young talent. I would prefer to ship Sheed, but I don't see that happening, so Ben is our best bet to get in fresh blood. I don't expect many to agree with me, and feel free to argue, but I think we need to shake things up any way we can and this is one of the few ways this can happen.

[b-diddy]

to be fair kilo, ben wallace is probably the easiest player in the nba to underrate.

but heres a number that should tell you everything:

62% (304-188): as in our winning percentage in ben's 6 seasons here.

or:

12, as in the 12 playoff series we won with ben.

or:

11, as in the 11 years we had gone without winning a playoff series before the TOR series.

[micknugget]

I really don't want Ben back but i'm not willing to give him up for free. I say either a S & T or sign him and trade him ASAP ( Dec. 15th?)

[the wrath of diddy]

im surprised you didnt opt with "do you not want ben not to sign with a team that is not the pistons?". you must have been in a hurry when you posted this one.

hermy, you forgot an argument. if we go over the tax, bill davidson's net worth might go down 0.0000000000001%. no way we should let ben's greedy ass get market value when bill has to feed his children.

Waits for Kstats inevitable "BILL DAVIDSON DOESN'T OWE YOU SHIT!" post.

[DPISTONS90]

If we want a chance to contend, then you have to say he must come back. He is the heart and soul of the Pistons hand down. As soon as the Pistons got beat by the Heat, his pending free agency was the 1st thing asked to the players and it was a consensus thought by all the players that he must be resigned. The players know he is the catalyst, and to even consider replacing him with fucking PJ Brown or that pussy Chandler? What a fucking insult to Big Ben. If he goes, this whole thing falls the fuck apart. It is not a matter of can we win with this bunch, we already have. How about a 64 game win season this year and two appearances in the NBA finals the 2 of the last three years. Fuck a shake up of the team, I call for a tweak. Resign Ben, get Bonzi, a competent back up PG, mold our badass young guys, put a foot in Sheeds ass, let Tay play some point and let him guard Wade next time and make that incompetent Fuck Flip attend some playoff basketball coaching seminars. No I take that back, Fire Flip and get Larry back or shit maybe even hire Hubie Brown. I just cant imagine a guy who has given his heart and soul to this city, its fans, and his teamates wearing another uniform. It just would not be right. He deserves to be a Piston for life.