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    The electric car

    Gas. Oil. Petroleum. Theft. Ass-ramming. Whatever you want to call it, it is apparently posed both as one of America's worst problems and one of its greatest successes. On the surface, it may seem to be a problem, and it is for the nation's citizens. But the government has had its chances at control, and either it has missed them or it has ignored them. And the prices aren't due primarily to overseas conflicts as it may appear, as American oil companies have recently had their greatest profits, far more than in previous years.

    I'm not going to yell conspiracy, but one chance we had at redemption was the electric car. Now, I know this car wasn't ideal for many people who need to travel great distances, but for commutes to work and such, it seems like an amazing alternative to oil-guzzling petroholics. We saw the electric car in California for a couple of years only for it to disappear. The nation hasn't heard from the alternative since. They say good ideas don't die, so I hope the electric car can manage to survive. As technology advances, I see no reason why the tech of the electric car can't advance so that the car lasts longer and is eventually a more ideal vehicle for road trips.

    Sure, there are "hybrids" out there right now that combine oil and electric technologies, but of course, they still use oil. And with the oil companies reaping benefits like never before (and Americans with asses sore like never before), they have no reason to worry right now as the hybrids aren't making a large enough splash to really put any kind of dent in the oil companies' massive tank.

    I don't know, I kind of made this post as a rant, and a bit of a look back -- what did happen to the electric car? It seemed to be such a promising technology, the kind that one hopes will advance. I hope the idea hasn't been reaped by the reaper itself, Big Oil. With recent murmurings of possible "water fuel," one can only keep faith that the oil ass-ramming will end soon enough.

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    Are you aware there's a 90 minute documentary out in theaters as we speak called "Who Killed the Electric Car"?

    I haven't seen it yet, although I'd like to.

    Perhaps you should.

    PS: Although my lease isn't up, I'm waiting for a call back from Toyota for lease rates on a loaded Prius.

    If its close to what I pay now, then I know what my next car will be.

    60 miles per gallon? Right now I'm getting like 11.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WH Press Sec. Tony Snow
    The President is opposed to (actually testing embryos before simply throwing them out), because the president is opposed to murder.
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    Wait. Throwing them out is not murder, but testing them before throwing them out is murder? WTF, George?

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    I just don't understand how our president allows the gas companies to increase the prices like this. They claim they raise them to keep up with the rising price of crude oil. If that were the case, I understand. But how are they increasing their profits by %40? The profit should not increase if you simply raise gas prices to keep up with crude prices. Any president not named Bush would do something about that, regardless of party affiliation.
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    Okay...I'm gonna play Taymelo, here. Soak it in -- you won't see this much.


    First, one must think 21st century if one is to understand the so-called "energy crisis", which really isn't a crisis at all. The new thought is -- there are no countries, only corporations and conglomerates. There is no USA vs. Saudi Arabia, since most of the western CEO's and Arabic Royalty know each other very well, as do their children. Most of everything we see on the news, regarding the "crisis", has been pre-ordained to a certain extent.

    For instance, how can a single incident in the Middle East INSTANTLY affect the price of gasoline across the board if the petroleum product you currently use is weeks old, and the new "affected" product won't see a gas pump for some time? The answer is simple: just because.

    Same with local energy, such as Enron. Bush and Kerry BOTH knew Kenneth Lay personally. When the energy crisis hit Cali some years back, did either of them step forward and demand Enron (which was found later to be a major contributor to the problem) alter their path? Nope. Don't bite the hand that feeds you, or helps you get elected.

    Yes, politicians can step in and TRY to do something, but more often than not they'll wait until and election year, which is THIS year, so expect a drop in gas prices until the elections are over. The politicians allegedly work FOR the people... but multinational corporations work FOR the politicians, to get them elected. Once in, I doubt any Senator or Representative is going to blow too loud a horn at the folks who landed them (or helped them maintain) such a cushy job.

    The whole idea that we're slaves to OPEC, and slaves to companies like Enron, is bullshit slung upon you by those very same people. We AREN'T powerless to push OPEC, since the US is the single largest consumer of natural fuel in the world. The real question is: do we WANT to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WTFchris
    I just don't understand how our president allows the gas companies to increase the prices like this. They claim they raise them to keep up with the rising price of crude oil. If that were the case, I understand. But how are they increasing their profits by %40? The profit should not increase if you simply raise gas prices to keep up with crude prices. Any president not named Bush would do something about that, regardless of party affiliation.
    its all about the special interest. maybe mccain wouldnt allow it. but its hard to say for alot of conservatives. they are willing to pay millions to them all. and only a few would decline. the democons would be more of a pain in the ass though. my problem is with the gullable party members who back the excuses being laid and the no nuts democons who don't fight these things harder. its utter shit on both sides in dealing with bush and they are both are guilty of lertting this retarded headstrong brainweak ape run rampant in his white house chair spinning in it like a 7 year old.
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    The politicians allegedly work FOR the people.
    they always work for somebody and get a check from somebody. but anyone gettinmg a check from the energy groups need burn down in heavy flames. fuck a party, wheres bill clinton? i actually liked about 60 percent of his planned agenda(though a repubic congress roadblocked him to his grave).. i may never get that high a percentage again. and thats another dumbass move by voters. putting in a repubic congress with the president to send shyt into full blown shithole.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DennyMcLain
    Yes, politicians can step in and TRY to do something, but more often than not they'll wait until and election year, which is THIS year, so expect a drop in gas prices until the elections are over. The politicians allegedly work FOR the people... but multinational corporations work FOR the politicians, to get them elected. Once in, I doubt any Senator or Representative is going to blow too loud a horn at the folks who landed them (or helped them maintain) such a cushy job.

    The whole idea that we're slaves to OPEC, and slaves to companies like Enron, is bullshit slung upon you by those very same people. We AREN'T powerless to push OPEC, since the US is the single largest consumer of natural fuel in the world. The real question is: do we WANT to?
    Right, Denny, that's a bit of what I was getting at.

    And about that movie, Taymelo, yeah I probably won't watch it but it's good to know somebody's making this a subject of attention.

    I wasn't talking only about gas prices either. Losing gas driven cars (no pun intended) would be a great thing for the environment as well, not to sound like a tree hugger or anything, but it's true.

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