I'm simply pointing out that I am not chopped liver.
Originally Posted by WH Press Sec. Tony SnowOriginally Posted by Taymelo
Much like the Middle East Peace Process, I have derailed this thread.
I won the second WTF Sportsbook contest, which means I am either really smart or really lucky. Don't bet on either!
This is how loops form. Here's an interview with Shimon Peres:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...080401387.html
Check your critical thinking at the door... it's war!Q: Is it true that you were the only person in the Israeli cabinet to raise objections to this operation?
A: After two weeks, I forgot everything. We are at war and have to be united. I'm not going to make an account of who was right and who was wrong.
While Taymeelo is temporarily incapacitated, I will offer this.
HezBYAAAAAAAAAH!
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Originally Posted by TaymeloJ:
I agree that each bomb likely creates another terrorist, as does each US bomb/bullet in Iraq. I would distinguish between the two conflicts, however, by pointing out that Iraq was neither an immediate nor future threat to the US, while on the other hand Hezbollah not only fired on and engaged Israel, but also constitutes a real, daily threat to the future of Israel.
Unfortunately, civilians die in war. Unlike USA v. Iraq II, Israel is literally at war with its next door neighbors for its own survival.
So Israel has to kill civilians and unfortunately take a public relations hit with innocent lebanese people and their ancestors, like Anthony.
Every action has a reaction. You kill a terrorist, and hit a civilian, and make their son a terrorist.
I understand that... but you can't just sit there and allow your country to be invaded, so radical islamists can bath in your children's blood and push 100% of your people into the sea - - - can you???
I wouldn't.
Would you?
So many points to make...First off, the Hezbollah media control can do a good job of doctoring stats, but whatever stats the media spits out about Iraqi casualities are freaking Gospel, or Torah in this case???
Even though you kind of addressed this point, Arab civilians being killed by USA>>>>Arab civilians being killed by Jews???? Same thing buddy, whatever the reasons, you can't have issue with one, and not with the other, or in your case, you can't say "consequences in war" for one, and war crimes for the other.
Jewish enemies don't wear unis and hide with civilians but Iraqi insurgents do???
While you and I can argue until we are blue in the face about the reasons for war in Iraq (I don't intend to highjack your thread going over our differances), the leaders of our military (once again, being right, wrong, or indifferant) thought Iraq to be a threat, not only to us, but to their own people, we had to go in and deal with our threat, much like Isreal is doing with Hezbullah.
It's humorous to me how much you sound like a conservative on this issue, Tay, which makes sense because we are not the "Let's suck off Islamic terrorists because they hate America almost as much as we do" party.
Sorry you can't respond to this for at least another five days or so, and when you do, I'm sure you'll generate a five page look into the mind of Tay about it.
Side note, I've offered this up at WRH, and I will extend to you the same offer, because I respect you, in some aspect, and think you far too intelligent to be as liberal as you are, but if you want, I'm going to host the audiobook version of Ann Coulter's Godless, and you're welcome to a copy.
Originally Posted by Anthony
Welcome to the world of disagreeing with Tay...I honestly think he gets through life bullying people around in arguements using big words and sounding sure of himself...While, I don't necessarily agree with you on this one, Anthony, because as you pointed out, this IS the same thing as in Iraq, and I support that whole heartedly, I've got a feeling I'm going to some how end this by disagreeing with you and Tay, if that's even possible.
If that's what you two really think, then I disagree with both of you.Originally Posted by cruscott35
"U.S. vs. Iraq" isn't the same thing as "Israel vs. Lebanon", except in a very broad sense -- they're both conflicts between parties that have clashed before, people on both sides die, guns and bombs are involved, etc. There's interrelationships between the two, of course, but there's far too many differences to call them "the same thing". Does Iraq border the U.S.? Where's the oil in Lebanon?
Like I said Mxy, it's hard for you and Tay to see because of our differances on the reasons for war in Iraq. If you assume that Iraq was a threat, and not over oil, which you and Tay will both NOT do, then you can see the similarites.
I really don't want to turn this into a debate about the Iraq war, which is why I prefaced everything I said by stating our differances in why we went to war there.
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