Israel vs. Hezbollah

[geerussell]

Fun stuff here. Very lengthy article about the experience of a western journalist who went to lebanon to get the post-syrian occupation scoop on Hezbollah back in december of 2005.

http://www.laweekly.com/news/news/gu...g-to-iftar/42/

If I were really motivated I'd pull a taymelo and paste the whole thing here with 85% of it bolded for emphasis... but instead, interested readers will have to summon the motivation to click the link and decide for themselves which parts are important.

[Taymelo]

Too much effort.

Gimme the gist of it.

[Uncle Mxy]

I was responding to your previous statement, which I can only interpret to mean that the current Israeli/Hezbollah problem was caused by Israel pushing the Palestinians into South Lebanon, and creating a population of Palestinians in South Lebanon that the Lebanese government wasn't prepare to feed, educate, or police.

I don't think that's the case. I think the people in South Lebanon are not Palestinians forced out of Israel and into South Lebanon.

Either you're wrong, or I'm wrong, or you meant to type something else and that's how it came out. If I'm misunderstanding your previous post, please clarify.

What initially established South Lebanon as "its own thing" relative to Lebanon was the PLO being shoved there by both Israel and Jordan in the '70s. That pushed the # of Palestinians in the region (who were there because Israel had pushed some out starting in 1948) to a critical mass where the PLO starts pushing around. South Lebanon became a semi-autonomous thing.

Israel invaded Lebanon to get rid of the PLO in South Lebanon (in response to an attack on their British ambassador that wasn't actually made by the PLO, a nice little historical footnote). This invasion succeeded in diluting the PLO further.

-but-

It directly led to Hezbollah, who built upon:

- the PLO foundation that was there initially. Heck, Hezbollah started out by occupying the resettlement camps built by the Palestinians.
- resentment by Shi'ite Lebanese (fueled by Syria and Iran) for being shoved around by Israel being on their soil

and now it's gotten wedged into part of the Lebanese government. It was one thing when Israel attacked Palestinians, who by themselves didn't enjoy a whole lot of support. It was another thing to do so on someone else soil beyond what are clearly your own borders.

[Uncle Mxy]

I happened to be Google-ing up something as a result of some books I read and hit upon this tack on Hezbollah:

http://www.motherjones.com/interview/2006/07/baer.html

RB: Speaking Arabic, you can go in you and just chitchat. I went to a Hezbollah school and was talking to these young girls whose dads had blown themselves up. They’re just teenage girls. I asked them what kind of TV they watch; they said Oprah. And I said, “Come on, you’re sitting here on the border of Israel, at war with the Israelis, and you’re watching Oprah?” They said, “We love Oprah!” And then you ask the obvious question: “If the Israelis invaded again, would you sacrifice a brother, a father?” “Absolutely.” So you have these two worlds.

[Anthony]

Thats sick. But thats how their taught from the day their born.
They dont know no better.

[UberAlles]

Thats sick. But thats how their taught from the day their born.
They dont know no better.

What is sick? Oprah or sacrificing family members?

WHY HAS NO ONE ADDED A SCORE CARD TO THIS THREAD?

At least post a running score of Moxy vs. Taymeelo. I got Mox in the late rounds, up 6-4.

[Taymelo]

I happened to be Google-ing up something as a result of some books I read and hit upon this tack on Hezbollah:

WHY HAS NO ONE ADDED A SCORE CARD TO THIS THREAD?

At least post a running score of Moxy vs. Taymeelo. I got Mox in the late rounds, up 6-4.

Hey!

Google this:

"UberAlles"

No, seriously.

Google it.

[UberAlles]

Hey!

Google this:

"UberAlles"

No, seriously.

Google it.

If you Google that, your head will explode. Don't say I didn't warn you.

Btw, if you don't get the Av, you won't get Uber Alles. But such is life.

Please carry on re-inventing history Taymeelo.

[Uncle Mxy]

WHY HAS NO ONE ADDED A SCORE CARD TO THIS THREAD?

Because I'd rather score with a fine woman than with Taymelo.

[Taymelo]

WHY HAS NO ONE ADDED A SCORE CARD TO THIS THREAD?

Because I'd rather score with a fine woman than with Taymelo.

Don't knock it till you've tried it.