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    Tiger Stadium to be torn down? (old thread)

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/sports...44/detail.html

    Tiger Stadium could soon be demolished.There are reports Thursday morning that the old baseball stadium at Michigan Avenue and Trumbull may be torn down, Local 4 reported. An announcement is expected next week.Contractors have previously said that it will cost between $2 million and $6 million to demolish the ball park, according to Local 4 reports.Originally, the city wanted to convert Tiger Stadium into a residential and entertainment center. So far, no developer capable of raising the money has come forward. The city has continued to look for a developer, according to Local 4 reports.The Detroit Tigers played their final game at Tiger Stadium on Sept. 27, 1999. Their new home is at Comerica Park, located on Woodward Avenue.Stay with Local 4 News and ClickOnDetroit.com for the latest developments.

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    I hate to see it go, but if you aren't going to use anymore, make it a 4th of July spectacular.

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    its exactly what detroit needs to do. if your not using it, and your never going to use it, take it down. dont try to renovate an old building at 3 x the price just because its old.

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    I agree with taking it down, but with all the old burt out rackity buildings in the city, why not take care of those before Tiger Stadium.

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    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slu...v=ap&type=lgns

    Tiger Stadium to be torn down, but part of field will remain

    By DAVID N. GOODMAN, Associated Press Writer
    June 16, 2006

    DETROIT (AP) -- Tiger Stadium will be demolished to make way for homes and stores under a plan that will save parts of the historic baseball venue.

    A portion of the field will be kept as a Little League diamond along with part of the stadium.

    "I think it's something everybody will enjoy and love," Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick said Friday.

    The decision to demolish the stadium follows years of intense efforts to find a developer who would refurbish it or convert it to other uses. It has been largely vacant since the Detroit Tigers moved out in 1999 in favor of the new downtown Comerica Park.

    "Nobody was interested in the site with a stadium on it," Kilpatrick said following a dedication ceremony for church-sponsored housing development project.

    The project will include 150 to 300 homes and retail space.

    The cost of demolition will be anywhere from $2 million to $6 million, said Peter Zeiler, an aide to Jackson. It will be offset by the value of the stadium as scrap and as a treasure chest of sports memorabilia, which could include seats and signs.

    He said the city hopes to find a salvage contractor familiar with marketing sports memorabilia that can begin offering pieces of the stadium to the public by October.

    "The possibility of something happening at that site is very exciting," said City Councilman Ken Cockrel Jr., who said he would reserve judgment on the plan until the council receives financial details.

    The Tigers began playing at the site near downtown late in the 19th century and moved into Tiger Stadium in 1912.
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    Maybe they can replace it with a much needed parking structure? Please?

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    Striking out
    City rejects offer of free security, maintenance at Tiger Stadium

    For a city bleeding red ink, it would seem the perfect pitch: An offer that would save Detroit at least $200,000 this year.

    Doing the pitching was Peter Comstock Riley, who, for nearly six years, has been trying to become a player at Tiger Stadium. The facility has been vacant since 1999, and almost from the moment of the last out at the historic ballpark, Riley’s company, Michigan & Trumbull LLC, has been working to make something happen at the site known as “The Corner.”

    And for all that time, Riley — and all others attempting to put the stadium back into use — have done nothing but strike out. Finally, last month, Riley made the city an offer too sweet to refuse. Or so he thought.

    He proposed providing maintenance and security at the stadium for one year at no cost to the city. Since the Tigers left that stadium at the end of the 1999 season for their new home at Comerica Park, the ball club, owned by Little Caesar’s pizza magnate Mike Ilitch, has maintained the facility and provided security at a cost of about $420,000 per year. The money came from a $2 million fund collected from a 90-cent per ticket surcharge while the old stadium was still in use. The money was earmarked to either provide for maintenance of the facility until a new use was found or, absent that, pay for the stadium’s demolition. Based on payments made to the Tigers since the stadium closed, the fund is almost gone.

    The contract for performing that service was apparently never put out to bid. In fact, city officials have never been able to produce any contract spelling out details of the agreement with the Tigers.

    Officials with Detroit’s Planning and Development Department, which is responsible for overseeing the stadium, did not respond to calls seeking comment for this story. The Detroit News reported earlier this month that the city spent $215,000 maintaining the stadium last year. However, according to city financial documents obtained by Metro Times, the city paid the Tigers $200,000 during the first five months of 2004 alone.

    Whatever the figure, Riley’s offer provided the city an opportunity to save hundreds of thousands of dollars at a time when it is facing crippling budget deficits.

    Riley, whose company previously had been rebuffed by the city when it attempted to bring a minor league baseball team to the stadium, made his newest offer earlier this year.

    In his proposal, Riley made it clear that his group would assist the city in finding a developer interested in utilizing the property. “Working in cooperation with the Planning and Development Department, the Downtown Development Authority, and the Detroit Economic Growth Corporation, Michigan & Trumbull LLC will assist the City of Detroit in making the stadium site attractive to future developers.”

    Why did the city turn down the deal?

    Riley provided Metro Times with an e-mail purportedly sent him by Walter Watkins, chief development officer for the City of Detroit, on Feb. 1, 2005. It states:

    “After careful consideration, we have decided that we cannot accept your offer. Several prospective developments are under consideration, and we feel we can provide the necessary maintenance and security in the interim. We continue to appreciate your interest in the Stadium and wish you all the very best.”

    Being shunted aside on the basis that a potential developer is waiting in the wings is a scenario Riley has been through before.

    In October 2001, in the waning days of then-Mayor Dennis Archer’s administration, a representative of the Planning Department told City Council that a credible developer with solid financial backing had been found.

    “So we do have a developer,” council was assured. But the deal never materialized. Once Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick took over, the proposed developer, Nonrahs-Sinacola Stadium Redevelopment LLC, was literally shut out by the city when it was not allowed to enter the stadium to perform the necessary evaluations for the deal to move ahead.

    As recently as 2003, officials were touting the site as the potential home for a so-called “big box” retailer such as Wal-Mart. Again, no deal has materialized.

    A group of Corktown residents and business owners who began working with professional planners before the stadium became vacant originally thought such a development would be ideal for the site. After studying the issue, however, they determined that a mixed-use development — one that would save at least a portion of the old ballpark while providing housing, retail and entertainment facilities — offered the best potential for reusing the stadium.

    None of the developers interested in pursuing that idea has been able to make any headway with the city. The prospects of that happening now seem more remote than ever.

    In an e-mail Watkins sent Riley in January of this year, Watkins wrote that “while we continue to listen to a number of proposals we are not necessarily supportive of a rehab or partial demo and would consider projects that need full demolition.”

    No firm plans, however, have yet been announced.

    In the meantime, Riley continues striking out. He says that his offer of free maintenance and security for a year was made in the hopes that, with his foot in the door and the Tigers no longer holding keys to the place, his group would be able to work with potential developers to help make something happen at The Corner.

    In addition, Riley, frustrated that he’s been able to make no deal with the city despite nearly six years of effort, says he also considered his deal to be a way of forcing the city to show where its interests really lie. He reasons that, if the city is willing to reject such an offer, it’s only real concern at this point is to keep making sure the Tigers continue getting a sweetheart deal.

    He contends that the problem all along is that the politically powerful Ilitch, who also owns the Detroit Red Wings and the Fox Theatre, has been able to forestall any action at the old stadium so that his club can continue collecting the maintenance fee for as long as any money remains in the fund. Also, it’s in the interest of the Tigers that no other use of the facility, such as a minor league baseball team, is allowed.

    Both the Tigers and the city have consistently denied that Ilitch’s clout affected decisions regarding the stadium.

    Others, however, have been running into the same stone wall as Riley when it comes to trying to wrest control of the maintenance contract from the Tigers. In November 2004, Chesterfield-based Landscape Images submitted a proposal to provide security and maintenance at the site for $200,000 per year.

    According to Bob Schultz, co-owner of the company, dealing with the city has “been like talking to a refrigerator. As soon as you mention Tiger Stadium, all you hear is that it’s a waste of your time.”

    “How come this was never bid on?” Schultz asks. “How come when I ask about that, no one wants to talk about it?”
    http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=7447

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    decent story, BUT:

    its probably for the best just to demolish the stadium. i cant imagine a major overhaul of the stadium would be practical, so why delay progress another year?

    and the allegations against illitch are rediculous. the fund running out is a natural time frame for a decision. i dont see why it has to be construed as illitch being greedy or evil.

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    Questions:

    Why are they spending so much for security?... just lock it up tight and leave it alone til they come up with a plan.

    Why not take the demolition $'s and invest it on the river where there's better/quicker potential to get a return on the investment?

    How can Illitch just sit and watch?... I can't think of a more important sentimental landmark for him.

    If they can renovate JL Hudsons they can do the same at "the corner"...

    Admitedly these opinions may be slanted by personal memories

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    well, they did blow up hudsons.

    and even though 4 million dollars is a ton of money for anyone, it doesnt go a long way towards large scale investments. and they had to have security for the field.

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