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  • Chauncey Billups

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  • Rip Hamilton

    5 29.41%
  • Tayshaun Prince

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  • Rasheed Wallace

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Thread: Game 1: Pistons vs Heat (Tue 5/23, 8p ET, ESPN)

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archdiocese
    If I see Lindsey on the court again I think I'll be done with Flip.
    yea. Hunter cost us the game getting wade put on the bench like that on two 2 fouls caused by his defense. i'd be done with Flip too if he was smart enough to care about the defensive work hunter put in more than the misses he had. who cares if everyone else was shooting shitty too. Hunter should never see the court. we dont need defense. we need wade and jason williams blowing by us like we're not there. thats what we need and if hunter hadn't of fucked that up, we woulda blew the heat out.

    I had a lil too much caffiene in my sarcasm coffee
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Archdiocese
    If I see Lindsey on the court again I think I'll be done with Flip.

    Gotta stick up for the geriatric crowd. I give LH much of the credit for our G7 win vs the Cavs.

    He did have a dumbass, backward, over the shoulder shot...I guess you could call it a shot, but he still brought defensive energy.

    If he keeps his play between the FT lines, he'll be just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
    Quote Originally Posted by The Archdiocese
    If I see Lindsey on the court again I think I'll be done with Flip.
    yea. Hunter cost us the game getting wade put on the bench like that on two 2 fouls caused by his defense. i'd be done with Flip too if he was smart enough to care about the defensive work hunter put in more than the misses he had. who cares if everyone else was shooting shitty too. Hunter should never see the court. we dont need defense. we need wade and jason williams blowing by us like we're not there. thats what we need and if hunter hadn't of fucked that up, we woulda blew the heat out.
    Wade would be blowing by us regardless of whether Lindsey is on the court or not. He drew an offensive foul. Wow. Amazing.


    He kept jacking up dump shot after dumb shot, but that's all fine and dandy because he drew an offensive foul.

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    I've been trying to tell some of you guys for months that Lindsey is a defensive specialist, a gimmick player, and nothing more.

    If he just comes in and Ds up and moves the ball on offense without shooting, he's fine.

    When he starts thinking that he's an all star and starts trying to take over offensively it's bad news. He can't finish a layup for the life of him, especially a contested layup.
    Find a new slant.

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    FYI, Lindsey had a positive +/- on the court. The same cannot be said for any starter. Delk's the wrong guy on Wade (WTF doesn't Flip play Delfino here), but other than that our bench did a good job. This rests on the starters, who let Miami's bench beat them.

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    The tired legs thing is only a part of a larger issue.

    Surprised to see many missing seeing the forest for the trees on what's going on. Too many debating small minor issues when there is just a couple of real issues at play here.
    Last edited by Gecko; 05-24-2006 at 02:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko
    The tired legs thing is only a part of a larger issue.

    Surprised to see many missing seeing the forest for the trees on what's going on. Too many debating small minor issues when there is just a couple of real issues at play here.
    Iranian Nazis, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TK
    Quote Originally Posted by Gecko
    The tired legs thing is only a part of a larger issue.

    Surprised to see many missing seeing the forest for the trees on what's going on. Too many debating small minor issues when there is just a couple of real issues at play here.
    Iranian Nazis, right?
    Your adorable.

    And you wonder I questioned your age a few weeks back. precious.
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    http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5633824

    Pistons fall apart against rested Heat

    Charley Rosen / Special to FOXSports.com
    Posted: 4 hours ago

    In Detroit, this one goes down as the Disgrace in the Palace. Even great teams lose playoff games at home, but the Pistons' 91-86 loss to Miami in Game 1 was downright embarrassing.

    The Pistons' handiest excuse is that rust overcame rest. They'd played umpteen games in umpteen days, and were simply too tired to put up much resistance.

    Too tired to do what? Rotate on defense? Set sturdy screens? Make decisive cuts? Hustle in transition? Knock down a reasonable percentage of wide-open gimme jumpers?

    Bah!

    This was the opener of the third-round of the money tournament, and there's plenty of time to catch up on missed zzzzs in July and August.

    The Pistons were nearly awakened from their slumbers late in the third quarter when Alonzo Mourning fouled Tayshaun Prince a mite too hard and seemed to rouse the home team. But no. The Pistons barked a while, then continued their somnambulant play. Later on, a flagrant foul by James Posey also produced more woofing, but little else.

    Rasheed Wallace was one of the worst offenders, sashaying through the action with total nonchalance, and not scoring a point until 8:23 of the third quarter. He finished with a not-so grand total of 7 points (on 3-10 shooting), and 3 measly rebounds.

    Chancey Billups, like the rest of his mates, missed numerous short- and mid-range jumpers. His totals — 6-19, 7 assists, and 19 points — were padded by some late game isos and postups he ran against the non-existent defense of Jason Williams.

    The Pistons only ran a handful of Rip Hamilton's trademark curls and pops, and he finished 9-22 from the floor and 22 points. Hamilton also missed a puzzling number of easy shots.

    Prince played hard, and had a decent game — 5-13, 6 rebounds, and 16 points. But Prince has limited offensive skills and is supposed to be only an auxilliary point-maker.

    Ben Wallace worked for everything he produced — 3-3, 14 rebounds, 3 assists, 3 steals, 6 points. But he, too, is strictly a complimentary player. And with all of the pregame yapping about how Ben can (or cannot) contain Shaq with one-on-one defense, here's what happened when Wallace did exactly that: Shaq made 5-of-8 shots, was fouled three times (only one resulted in free throws, and he made 1-2), and had the ball poked away twice by Wallace. That's 11 points in 13 possessions — certainly a winning total for the Pistons.

    When Shaq was doubled (mostly when Antonio McDyess was guarding him), he was 1-1, was fouled once (1-2), committed a turnover, and his out-passes resulted in his teammates shooting 0-4. That's 3 points in 6 possessions.

    So, Ben did his job admirably, and Shaq wasn't much of a force.

    McDyess was active off the bench, but couldn't drop the ball through the ring with sufficient regularity — 3-7, 10 points. Lindsey Hunter was pesky on defense — snatching a pair of steals and even drawing a charge on Dwyane Wade. But Hunter also tossed up three horrific shots that helped prevent the Pistons from generating any kind of continuity on offense.

    If Detroit's offense was moribund (37.8 percent from the field), their defense was DOA (Dead On Arrival). Gary Payton (6-8, 14 points), Antoine Walker (6-12, 17 points), and Jason Williams (5-7, 10 points) had free passes to penetrate the lane and waltz to the basket. And so did Wade — 9-11 for 25 points in only 27 foul-ridden minutes. (He also loosened three jumpers from beyond the foul line and hit only one. Is this a clue as to how Wade should be defended?)

    And here we all thought that the Pistons took pride in their interior defense. More the fools, us.

    Sure, the Heat were revved up and raring to go as soon as the lights were switched on. They led 9-0 before the Pistons could break a sweat. And the Pistons did rouse themselves sufficiently to get back into the game, but didn't turn on the after-burners until there were two minutes left and the game was already lost.

    On offense, Miami simply took the ball to the hole. On defense, they showed hard on screen/rolls, and tried to pressure Detroit's perimeter shooters. Even so, the Pistons had open shots galore.

    What worked for Detroit? A couple of S/Rs involving McDyess. A screen/fade for McDyess. Some one-on-one heroics by Prince. And that's about it.

    Plenty of teams have lost opening games at home and come back to win a playoff series. It's not the fact of the Pistons' loss that's so disturbing, it's the hows and whys of the loss.

    Tired, guys? Hey, little Stevie Nash gets tired, not big bad Rasheed, big shot Billups, and the Ripper.

    Well, here's a bulletin: All the games in the remainder of the series will be played on alternate days. Leaving hardly any time to sleep late.

    Game 2 will, therefore, be a supreme test of the Pistons' pride and resiliency. Yet come what may (and with apologies to T.S. Eliot), Game 1 will be remembered as an occasion when the Pistons went down "not with a bang, but with a whimper."
    Find a new slant.

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