9/11 Loose Change

[Gecko]

The Atta thing could of been incompetance.

Sure, it could've been incompetance. Or Atta could've been allowed to operate under the government's noses. Either point has validity.

I never heard these conspiracy theories before

Thanks for proving my point. You think one blind cut and paste answers it all? You honestly don't think it's been addressed anywhere else by people who still believe the government had something to do with it? Look a little deeper.

And check out http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/ if you need evidence that people smarter than you or I actually buy into this.

I know you'd rather dismiss this notion with a wave of your hand and lump anyone who believes this (or at least questions it) in with the same group of people who believe Elvis is still alive and that they've been abducted by aliens, but this is actually a legit issue, if you care to open your eyes and investigate it further.

TK listen man. Your asking me to believe something that is so out there. Is it possible...Sure I guess, Probable...most likely no. I need to debate things that are within reason and something like this is such a fringe viewpoint. This isn't worth us arguing about any further. I feel that there is scientific proof dispelling this trash. You want to despertley believe something is there when it's not and it has to do with your dislike of GWB. Your standards are lowered to such a point that anything becomes believable.


I view this just like I view Loch ness, Saskwatch and everything else. Have a good weekend.

[Glenn]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

I'm kind of regretting that we went with "The Syndicate" now.

[Gecko]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati

I'm kind of regretting that we went with "The Syndicate" now.

[Anthony]

Sorry, I cant believe this garbage. I'm with Geko here.
I just find it really hard to believe this crap.

[-NoQuarter-]

The government would never betray, manipulate, deceive, or use the American "sheep" in order to further their own agenda.


Fuck, hasn't history taught you people anything?

[Gecko]

The government would never betray, manipulate, deceive, or use the American "sheep" in order to further their own agenda.


Fuck, hasn't history taught you people anything?

What is it we are talking about here NQ - Is the argument deception or complicent involvment in the slaughter of more than 3,000 Americans?

[DennyMcLain]

This is what makes America great: social discourse.

When you speak of "government", remember, there's still a lot of good people within Congress and various levels of administration -- individuals who are patriots and, more than likely, would have whistle-blown this conspiracy a long time ago.

When ordering a black op, the number one rule is "keep it simple, stupid" (K.I.S.S). The less individuals in on it, the better. The more contained it is, the less likelihood of residual damage.

The scope of this "conspiracy" is massive. Too many people would have known too many sensitive things and too many secrets for it to have been covered up for this long.

Of course, a rule of counter-intelligence is to create multiple versions of the same incident, as to confuse the public. If one is to believe the government is behind 9/11, then one must ALSO believe that many of these "conspiracy documentaries" are actually government productions designed to confuse you.

[-NoQuarter-]

The government would never betray, manipulate, deceive, or use the American "sheep" in order to further their own agenda.


Fuck, hasn't history taught you people anything?

What is it we are talking about here NQ - Is the argument deception or complicent involvment in the slaughter of more than 3,000 Americans?

They've done it to people of other countries. I don't know why you would think the term "american" would make you any less expendable.

[-NoQuarter-]

This is why our government is so fucking brilliant. They could commit countless crimes against the American people, video tape it while each holding 3 official forms of ID, and publicly mail their unclassified documents to the media, and people's responses would still be "I won't even watch this liberal agenda crap! This far-fetched, X-Files, right-wing bullshit!"

They just throw out their key-words and watch people pavlov all over themselves. George W. Bush says he stands for "family values, Godly morals, America, the fight agaisnt evil"

People say to themselves, "I stand for family values, I belive in God, , I love America, I'm no terrorist!"


They own your asses.

[Gecko]

Nah, a reasonable debate is whether GWB and Clintons white houses had misssed the signs of an attack not if the Bush white house orchestrated it.