I am just going off what I heard and read. Then again it might of been the other Winston that I heard has the work ethic issue. Not sure so I will defer to you on this one.Originally Posted by H1Man
Ernie Simms (LB) FSU
AJ Hawk (LB)
Vince Young (QB) Texas
Jay Cutler (QB) Vanderbilt
Matt Leinart (QB) USC
Winston Justice (OT) USC
Haloti Ngata (DT) Oregon
Broderick Bunkley (DT) FSU
Michael Huff (DB) Texas
Jimmy Williams (DB) VaTech
Eric Winston (OT) Mia
Tye Hill (CB) Clemson
Vernon Davis (TE) Maryland
I am just going off what I heard and read. Then again it might of been the other Winston that I heard has the work ethic issue. Not sure so I will defer to you on this one.Originally Posted by H1Man
cbssportsline draft....
9. Detroit Lions
Matt Leinart, QB, USC: Falling? This is the year of the Trojan in the draft. Leinart here guarantees that at least two USC players will go in the top 10. The Lions might be fed up with former Pac-10 quarterbacks (see ya, Joey) but Leinart is a gift falling to them at No. 9. Why so low? He just doesn't fit anywhere else above Detroit. At least not in this war room.
I'd take Vince first.
Leinart was dope, but Vince even had him in stats without a Reggie Bush or
a Lendale White. I just don't see why it's even a question as far as Young goes.
He's going to be a fucking stud. He's big as hell and was electrifying while
carrying his team to two straight bowl wins, Rose and then the National Chip.
What is everyone so low on him? It's ridiculous!
I think he could be very good, but I think the Lions need the closest thing to a "safe bet" that they can get, especially after the last highly drafted QB was a bust (and the one before, and the one before...).
Can't say that about VY, IMO.
Find a new slant.
I swear I remember saying that about Morris Peterson and Rodney White.Originally Posted by MOLA1
I was right about Peterson, but very, very wrong about White.
I still remember where I was during both of those drafts. When we picked Mateen, I was at my best friend's house. I saw they took Mateen over Peterson, and started screaming and throwing pillows at the TV, calling Dumars an idiot and wondering how he could be so stupid.
And I still remember where I was when they drafted Rodney White. I was at a cousin's house, for a family get together, with my fingers crossed that the top 8 teams in the lottery wouldn't steal him away from us. Each time someone else picked - and it wasn't Rodney White - I started cheering. "The Cleveland Cavaliers select Desagana Diop" - YESSS!!!!! My dream come true - "with the 9th pick in the NBA draft, the Detroit Pistons select [the guy Michael Jordan said should be the #1 pick] Rodney White". WHOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
Oh, well. I guess we can't pick 'em all, can we?
Originally Posted by WH Press Sec. Tony SnowOriginally Posted by Taymelo
How rodney didn't end up being Al Harrington still befuddles me today after the way he played in college (besides the alcoholism thing).
If VY has proven himself as a winner, how is that not a safe bet?
If you can find a pro scout that says VY is a polished, NFL-ready QB, then I'll call him a safe bet.
He's raw, and he's a gamble.
He might be a good gamble for some team, I seem him as high risk/high reward, but I don't think the Lions can afford to go down that path right now, especially after just signing two other QBs.
If we hadn't signed Kitna and McCown, I'd be all for taking Leinart/Young/Cutler at 9.
Find a new slant.
Mateen Cleaves?Originally Posted by MOLA1
Charlie Ward?
Any Nebraska quarterback in the history of the world?
Most Florida quarterbacks?
Originally Posted by WH Press Sec. Tony SnowOriginally Posted by Taymelo
VY was a fucking stud. Check the stats.
Mateen was a "leader" but his stats were never amazing.
Same with Ward. He was a better football player.
Young beat the shit out of Michigan, probably the best defense that year
and then USC, one of the greatest college teams of all time. What's the problem?
Stats/workouts/track record/good attitude
What the fuck is going on?
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