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    The old model of stockpiling quality bigs for the right opportunity still applies.
    Some folks get all goofy about Jmax playing over Drummond (even though AD avgs about 20 min lately)... To me it seems to be more about trying to get full value in trade.... if Max is packaged in a deal that brings back a quality wing... mission accomplished
    Any way you look at it we'll have the assets to land an impact SG/SF by summer.... so if we lose a few extra games in the proccess... BFD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat View Post
    He's dropped off a cliff defensively the last week. I'm chalking that up to his limited mobility with the thigh bruise.
    Thankfully that thigh bruise doesn't affect his offensive game.
    Hype?

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    A thigh bruise affects lateral quickness, which affects defense more than offense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat View Post
    A thigh bruise affects lateral quickness, which affects defense more than offense.
    You are adorable. : )
    Hype?

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    http://www.mlive.com/pistons/index.s...dible_ben.html

    good stuff
    There has to be consideration to Drummond starting.

    There also has to be consideration in how clunky that still might look, with Greg Monroe shifting to power forward, and whether that's the best combination at all. The Memphis-can-do-it argument that you can play with two true bigs together is valid, but the Grizzlies also have two true post scorers in Marc Gasol and Zach Randolph, and a backcourt which turns mistakes into instant offense, which is why the Memphis-can-do-it argument exists.
    Drummond has benefited from that interior freedom and Villanueva has benefited from having the off-side defensive help. They have formed a more effective front line than the limited use of Drummond and Monroe together has. There's some argument that if Drummond starts, the best power forward to pair with him remains Villanueva, to avoid clogging the interior. Monroe could move to the second unit and flourish offensively.

    Of course, the only potential fallout from that kind of radical move is alienating Monroe, even greater emphasis on Daye's shooting with the second unit, and knocking Jason Maxiell out of the rotation. The latter might be preferable in many applications, unless the Pistons are trying to move Maxiell and his expiring contract before the trade deadline, a year after they thought they had a deal to move him to New Orleans for Chris Kaman before that proposal fell through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Asberry View Post

    that article is slightly braindead, Charlie isn't a post player, so drummond has "freedom" because the guy with charlie is guarding the 3 ball. That spacing is afforded to anyone with Charlie on the floor, the drawback is we have to take lower percentage shots and reduce rebounding efficency for it. What benefits just drummond does not reallly benefit the entire team. Having a clogged front court allows the backcourt to attack with more space and confidence that mistakes will be easily rebounded, it also leads to a higher pecentage offense working inside out. The two big tandem is easy money in the nba, it is adaptable to pretty much whatever backcourt you want to use.
    Hype?

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    The stretch four in the nba is fool's gold. It barely worked for miam because they have lebron James. Replace him with any ther human being on earth and Miami does not get out of the second round last summer.

    I love Charlie V as a backup PF. I wish he made half as much as he does. I'd keep him around another 6 years. But we have to have a bigg base up front for games when we just aren't making perimeter shots.

    Miami is very, very average when the 3 ball isn't falling. They have no way to get easy baskets apart from lebron and wade getting fast break steals and dunks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat View Post
    The stretch four in the nba is fool's gold. It barely worked for miam because they have lebron James. Replace him with any ther human being on earth and Miami does not get out of the second round last summer.

    I love Charlie V as a backup PF. I wish he made half as much as he does. I'd keep him around another 6 years. But we have to have a bigg base up front for games when we just aren't making perimeter shots.

    Miami is very, very average when the 3 ball isn't falling. They have no way to get easy baskets apart from lebron and wade getting fast break steals and dunks.
    What about Orlando with Howard a couple years ago?
    How about Horry and Shaq in LA?
    How about Horry and Olajuwon in Houston?
    How about Dirk and Chandler in Dallas?
    Hell, how about Sheed and Ben in Detroit?

    What you can't do is just have some tall guy who shoots good. He's gotta D up too. Still, You have to spread the floor for a good offense.
    k

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    Orlando with Howard and Lewis got mauled in the finals because rashard Lewis got manhandled by pau gasol at the 4. They would have lost earlier if they had played any team with a halfway decent PF before that.

    Olajuwon had Otis thorpe next to him at PF the first year. And besides that horry can actually defend his position and play inside.

    Dirk is not a stretch four. Holy shut, seriously?

    Simply being able to shoot the 3 does not make you a stretch four. That's like calling Laimbeer a stretch four. It's an exclusive specialist that camps out there for 4 quarters for the purpose of spacing because he can't do anything else on offense.

    Battier is a stretch four. Novak. Villauneva. Ryan Anderson. Jamison is getting there.

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