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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy View Post
    My hunch is that Drummond starts by the trade deadline.
    I believe the main reason drummond isn't playing more has to do with conditioning rather than performance and/or a coach's inability to recognize his future value as a starting player. He's been primarily an energy guy during the first month of the season and I believe both he and his body are still trying to adjust to this role and the physical demands. It also looks like he's lost a little weight, especially in the upper body, since entering the NBA which I believe also has to do with him adjusting to this role. Once he gets the physical/conditioning part down there's no doubt he'll be in the starting lineup, perhaps by the trade deadline if not sooner...I'm thinking sooner.

    Either way I'm not concerned at all as it's just a matter of time before he will be ready to start against starting-quality NBA bigs. And I keep reminding myself that Dennis Rodman only played 15 minutes a game in his first season (77 games) and you can't say that other guys were keeping him off the floor (sydney green...tony campbell...)

    Patience my friends.

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    Sorry. You lost me when you called Brandon knight a horrendous defender. That's a departure from common sense that many of us will never reach in our lifetimes. Not only is knight not horrendous, he's actually very, very good on defense.

    Then again, you still seem to be in love with will Bynum...
    Bynum love is admittedly irrational, always has been. One of my favorite college players. Horrific NBA player.

    Knight criticism is rational.
    You say Knight is very, very good on defense? Lets make sure we highlight this as your claim, because that is a very large claim which will require outstanding evidence. So far, I can only find evidence to the contrary. For instance http://www.82games.com/1213/1213DET5.HTM Detroit has the worst PG differential in the NBA and the worst opposing PG PER I've found(correction, Cleveland is worse). Too small of a sample size you say? Here is last year, not all that different. http://www.82games.com/1112/1112DET5.HTM Don't think the results are meaningful? take what you think are the top 10 best, and top 10 worst and see how they compare. It isn't pretty.
    Or take Dtrg 303 Brandon Knight out of 420 http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._advanced.html
    Or 393 of 478 Brandon Knight the year before. http://www.basketball-reference.com/..._advanced.html

    You'll either have to come to the conclusion that there is heavy statistically bias against Brandon Knight, or you're wrong. Caveat being this data does not isolate just Brandon knight or any other starter, so it is not entirely fair (team game). In spite of that, I challenge you to show me anything to the contrary.

    So, what do we know about Brandon Knight, we know that he is a fantastic deep threat and inconsistent playmaker, and this is the potential we hope becomes more developed. These attributes are very much accounted for in any statistical analysis of him. Defensively it is harder to gauge a player, but Knight is fairly easy. He is not good in any classic or comparative categories.

    To summarize, you replied to my post in a very contentious way. You attacked my credibility on the basis of something I do farcically. You made a counter claim with no evidence, and even went as far to call my analysis a departure from common sense that no one else would make.
    What is less explainable, though, is Knight’s dropoff in defense. Knight’s defensive rating was 109 as a rookie and it’s slightly worse at 110 this season. He’s getting significantly fewer steals too (.7 per 36 minutes last season, .4 this season; 1.2 percent steal percentage last season, .7 percent this season), a disappointment considering his quickness and long arms, which should theoretically help him get into passing lanes.
    http://www.pistonpowered.com/2012/12...s-complicated/


    I look forward to nothing meaningful from you on this topic in the future.
    Hype?

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