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[Pharaoh]

The Thunder had a whole bunch of kids, let them loose and BOOM! look where they are now.

Having veteran leaders is fine but you need talent to win games and if dealing Tayshaun puts us in a better position long term to win big then you do it in a heartbeat

I guess it all depends on how you view Monroe (and Stuckey and Knight): are they ready for more responsibility? If yes then you make them co-captains and go from there. If you don't think they are ready for that then keep Tayshaun and tread water for another season.

IMO Tayshaun needs to go, Monroe needs to be the leader with Stuckey and Knight backing him up - for better or worse those 3 guys will play a huge role in the next 2-3 years here

[Glenn]

The Thunder had a whole bunch of kids, let them loose and BOOM! look where they are now.

Having veteran leaders is fine but you need talent to win games and if dealing Tayshaun puts us in a better position long term to win big then you do it in a heartbeat

I guess it all depends on how you view Monroe (and Stuckey and Knight): are they ready for more responsibility? If yes then you make them co-captains and go from there. If you don't think they are ready for that then keep Tayshaun and tread water for another season.

IMO Tayshaun needs to go, Monroe needs to be the leader with Stuckey and Knight backing him up - for better or worse those 3 guys will play a huge role in the next 2-3 years here

Was thinking similarly, except the part about Stuckey leading anything.

Monroe and Knight seem equipped to lead.

As far as Tay, he can GTFO. We've had a leadership void for years, suddenly he's going to step up and lead? Silly notion.

[Kstat]

The Thunder had a whole bunch of kids, let them loose and BOOM! look where they are now.

First off, the Thunder had Kevin Durant. That's like saying the Bulls didn't need a veteran leader because they had Michael Jordan. We do not have a future 1st ballot hall of famer on the roster.

You are looking at exceptions to a rule when %99.9 of the time a young team is left to its own devices, it goes the other way completely.

Second, entrusting the leadership of the team to Monroe or Stuckey is fine, but there needs to be a calming influence when shit hits the fan. That's the type of leadership I'm talking about. Tayshaun isn't vocal but he does understand the pacing and flow of a game as well as any player in the league.

If you think Knight is the next Isiah Thomas, then you could be right that they don't need Tayshaun. If you don't think he's the next Isiah Thomas, the odds are overwhelmingly in favor of keeping him.

I'd love to be the next Thunder, but I also have no desire to risk becoming the next Clippers/Warriors/Bobcats/Knicks/Timberwolves/Raptors/Nets/Wizards/Kings.

...as for Singler/Daye/Jerebko.... Jonas is at best a 3/4 combo backup, Singler would be best groomed as Tayshaun's future replacement down the road, and anything that keeps Austin Daye from seeing the floor gets an endorsement from me.

[Glenn]

anything that keeps Austin Daye from seeing the floor gets an endorsement from me.

I remember you hyperventilating about him during summer league a few years back.