Romney vs Obama 2012

[bukdow]

Just decided that based on the tone of your rhetoric that I'm not really interested in what else you have to say on this.

Still love ya, though.

Pffft. You strike me as something like the love-child of Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi.

Come on, don't be the typical liberal. Don't cringe and shrink when someone asks your input based on your own thoughts instead of just Bill Mahrer regurgitations. Think, man! Use your own brain instead of following the "diversity" PowerPoint.

[Glenn]

I actually like 'bukky the neocon' better than 'bukky the guy who touches himself and thinks about Elizabeth Warren'.

This works for me.

[bukdow]

I actually like 'bukky the neocon' better than 'bukky the guy who touches himself and thinks about Elizabeth Warren'.

This works for me.

So, you just will not even attempt to articulate your thinking/reasoning on the subject. I am not a "neo-con". I don't think you even really know what a "neo-con" is. It is just a negative term thrown around to make conservatives sound crazy.

Warmed over Marxism is just not attractive to me anymore. Socialism and the egalitarian myth that goes along with it is for children. Look at Greece. Look at all of Europe except Germany. This type of "have fun now, pay later" socialist buffoonery is not merely counter-productive, but destructive.

You seem intelligent, Gla, but perhaps you lack the sophistication to see through the sophistry. Too bad.

[Vinny]

So do you still read the magazines? Those are good magazines. Mean it.

[Glenn]

The 'mid-life crisis Republican awakening' bit is a natural regression of the bukdow character, as he's always been a "lookin' out for #1"-type of guy. Self-absorbed, selectively pious, socially awkward, afraid of those different than him, it all fits.

Brilliant.

[mercury]

Romney = fake ass dickhead... more than willing to create a larger humanity divide.

[bukdow]

The 'mid-life crisis Republican awakening' bit is a natural regression of the bukdow character, as he's always been a "lookin' out for #1"-type of guy. Self-absorbed, selectively pious, socially awkward, afraid of those different than him, it all fits.

Brilliant.

Actually, I have already thought of that and I am pretty certain thats not it. Frankly, I think its the opposite. I have a son now (5 years old) and I am more concerned about his future. I have a 529 account for him and another account that will provide him seed money to get started. But, the country he grows up in is important as well. I want a country where hard work and planning is rewarded instead of a Marx-lite state that just hands out money to every "Julia" and asks how high when the NAACP yells jump (you know, because of slavery and everything) and decides that because someone has worked hard and made something of themself they should feel guilty and hand half of it over because they didn't really earn it.

There are certain aspects of a society that are important. Like marriage, stable families, opportunity based on merit (a meritocracy, if you will), planning, impulse control and no everything isn't "OK" just because some jackass says its his religion, self-respect and respect for others, etc. There is right and wrong as well as good and bad and no amount of excuse making or victim mentality will change that.

[Glenn]

Yeah, I heard that stuff on Hannity the other day, too.

[Uncle Mxy]

bukdow: Where's the handouts in Obama's "Julia" campaign?

Are Social Security and Medicare handouts? I've been paying taxes for decades for them.
Is equal pay for equal work a handout?
Are loans that you have to pay back a handout?

Is Head Start *not* a childhood intervention program that you claim to be in favor of?

[DE]

I believe that the issue itself, the intertwining of business, government and society would be a great discussion to have. However I believe that the US is too bi-polar, too black and white, to have that conversation right now if ever. Btw here's an all right article about that from Inc. magazine: http://www.inc.com/gene-marks/presid...-business.html

On a personal note: I started and ran my own million dollar company for years. I never once felt that it was all about me. If not for my previous company I would have never entered or learned about the business. Without my first partner encouraging me I would never have seen the opportunity. I received a loan from a family member to make my first purchase. I had other partners bet on me. I had collaborative help from people who worked for me and with whom I worked. I lived in Europe and the market, government, attitudes and times were the right mix to help me with my company.

Hard work and talent are vital. There's no doubt about that. But there is no way a very successful business can only be about the hard work and talent of just one person. That at least, especially as we seem to have a revival of entrepreneurship going on, is a great discussion to have.