All things ACORN

**geerussell** · 10-19-2008 02:47 PM

A challenge for anyone who thinks the ACORN story is central to this election.

Fill in the blanks:

1) Submit thousands of voter registration forms that don't match up to existing state databases.

2) ?????

3) Steal the election.

+100 motowns to anyone who can complete step two.

**Uncle Mxy** · 10-19-2008 03:16 PM

The part that doesn't get reported much is the fact that ACORN themselves was the one reporting these issues to the authorities in the first place:

http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/...nvoters18.html

King County Prosecutor Dan Satterberg, a Republican, said last year that the ACORN case in Seattle had nothing to do with manipulating outcomes and everything to do with the workers' efforts to keep their $8-an-hour jobs. If anyone was defrauded, it was ACORN, an acronym for Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.

"The defendants ... cheated their employers to get paid for work they did not actually perform," Satterberg said. "The defendants simply realized that making up names was easier than actually canvassing the streets."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081018/...or_foolishness

Voter fraud is rare in the United States, according to a 2007 report by the nonpartisan Brennan Center for Justice at the New York University School of Law. Based on reviews of voter fraud claims at the federal and state level, the center's report asserted most problems were caused by things like technological glitches, clerical errors or mistakes made by voters and by election officials.

"It is more likely that an individual will be struck by lightning than he will impersonate another voter at the polls," the report said.

Alex Keyssar, a professor at Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, calls the current controversy "chapter 22 in a drama that's been going on awhile. The pattern is that nothing much ever comes from this. There have been no known cases of people voting fraudulently."

"What we've seen," Keyssar said, "is sloppiness and someone's idea of a stupid joke, like registering as Donald Duck."

ACORN officials have repeatedly claimed that their own quality control workers were the first to discover problematic ballots. In every state investigating bad registrations, ACORN tipped off local officials to bogus or incomplete cards, spokesman Kettenring said.

**Big Swami** · 10-19-2008 06:36 PM

Hey hey hey now, Mxy. Let's not a few inconvenient facts get in the way of an awesome narrative. Just because there is NO POSSIBLE WAY for these bullshit ACORN registrations to affect the outcome of an election, let's keep faith that if you are an activist group working on behalf of poor brown people, you are a devil worshiper and a fornicator and hate America.

Let me state this another way: let's stay focused on the fact that ACORN is full of people who want to make the US a carbon copy of Iran with the only difference being that it would be communist and allow child molestation. Let's not worry too much about the fact that these ACORN registrations WERE TELEGRAPHED TO STATE GOVERNMENTS WELL IN ADVANCE AND WOULD NOT RESULT IN A SINGLE INVALID VOTE. That doesn't really fit with my preconceived worldview, and therefore I don't want to hear about it.

**Glenn** · 10-19-2008 06:45 PM

Voter registration fraud doesn't effect outcomes, election fraud does.

One party has that down to an art form, and it ain't the Dems.

**Tahoe** · 10-19-2008 06:51 PM

lol

**xanadu** · 10-19-2008 07:26 PM

Here is a story about republicans committing voter fraud. Note that this actually happened. the republicans spent millions investigating voter fraud and didn't find shit.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,1216330.story

**xanadu** · 10-19-2008 09:05 PM

Repub arrested for voter fraud.

GOP voter registration fraud case leads to arrest

SACRAMENTO -- The owner of a firm that the California Republican Party hired to register tens of thousands of voters this year was arrested in Ontario late last night on suspicion of voter registration fraud.

State and local investigators allege that Mark Jacoby fraudulently registered himself to vote at a childhood California address where he no longer lives so he would appear to meet the legal requirement that signature gatherers be eligible to vote in California.

Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department comes after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by his firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM. The voters said YPM tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters. The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,3842357.story

**Uncle Mxy** · 10-19-2008 11:24 PM

FYI, the same dude's firm pulled the same stunt in Florida in 2004:

http://www.sptimes.com/2004/10/23/Hi...lain_of_.shtml

**xanadu** · 10-19-2008 11:48 PM

i would say that i was surprised that the bushco let this guy off scott-free for real registration fraud while it was giving felonies to ex-cons that registered and voted democrat when they didn't know it was illegal. of course, anyone with a shred of common sense know the bush doj is corrupt to the core. unfortunately, the dem congress is to cowardly to throw miers and rove in jail for ignoring subpoenas.

**geerussell** · 10-20-2008 12:59 AM