Health Care

[DennyMcLain]

THIS COUNTRY IS LIKE NO OTHER IN THE WORLD, SO THUS CANNOT BE COMPARED TO ANY OTHER IN THE WORLD. YES, CANADA, SWEDEN, SPAIN ALL HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE, BUT THEIR SOCIOECONOMIC CLIMATES, CULTURE, AND WORKFORCES ARE SO DIFFERENT FROM THE U.S. THAT A FAIR COMPARISON CANNOT BE SUFFICIENTLY ADDRESSED.

ALSO, TAHOE IS A DOUCHE.

[Uncle Mxy]

http://www.freep.com/article/2009092...te=fullarticle

http://www.nationaljournal.com/congr...90925_6347.php

[Tahoe]

^ That clip might have been when the Repubs were trying to ammend the bill to give voters 72 hours to read it or make heads or tails out of it. You know, Mr T, transparency instead of slamming another piece of shit bill down the voters throats.

[Glenn]

Beaumont just fired 450 people.

[Big Swami]

^ That clip might have been when the Repubs were trying to ammend the bill to give voters 72 hours to read it or make heads or tails out of it. You know, Mr T, transparency instead of slamming another piece of shit bill down the voters throats.

^ Having a bill, with features that most people support, introduced and approved by majority vote in Congress, whose members were elected by voters, and signed into law by a President, who was also elected by a majority of voters, is exactly the same thing as having something slammed down our throats. That's how things are in Tahoeland.

[Uncle Mxy]

^ That clip might have been when the Repubs were trying to ammend the bill to give voters 72 hours to read it or make heads or tails out of it. You know, Mr T, transparency instead of slamming another piece of shit bill down the voters throats.

That was about a failed amendment proposed by Kyl (R-Arizona) to make maternity care not a mandatory part of coverage.

Stabenow correctly illustrated the falsehood of the argument, that maternity care is as much about guys as girls. Gotta love it when pro-life Republicans try to stick it to the unborn...

[Tahoe]

^ Having a bill, with features that most people support, introduced and approved by majority vote in Congress, whose members were elected by voters, and signed into law by a President, who was also elected by a majority of voters, is exactly the same thing as having something slammed down our throats. That's how things are in Tahoeland.

RED LIGHT, CRISIS CRISIS, DON'T READ THE BILL VOTE YES OR YOU ARE A RACIST. VOTE YES, DONT READ JUST VOTE YES!

[Tahoe]

That was about a failed amendment proposed by Kyl (R-Arizona) to make maternity care not a mandatory part of coverage.

Stabenow correctly illustrated the falsehood of the argument, that maternity care is as much about guys as girls. Gotta love it when pro-life Republicans try to stick it to the unborn...

Oh, cuz it looked like the setting where the Repubs wanted the voting public to be able to read the bill for just 72 hours (You know, transparency) and the Dems were fighting it. Cuz they know the bill sucks.

[Uncle Mxy]

To be fair, the same senate committee did pass a bill that required them to post the full bill, in "conceptual" plain language instead of legal language (useful from a SCOTUS and "time to read it" perspective), and required a CBO cost estimate (so the bill would have to stay stable on most important points long enough for the CBO to weigh in). Whatever. It's all bullshit until we see what goes down in reconciliation.

The "bills should wait for X amount of time" issue isn't specific to healthcare. The legislative process by which bills are done is arcane and prone to much unwarranted meddling. There are all kinds of solutions from the IT space to deal with complex document management. I'd love to see governments at all level start using tools that work rather than being tools that don't work.

[Tahoe]

Problem is that the devil is in the details.