View Poll Results: 2008/09 NBA Playoffs - Round 1, (1) Cleveland vs. (8) Detroit

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  • Cleveland in 4

    8 47.06%
  • Cleveland in 5

    5 29.41%
  • Cleveland in 6

    2 11.76%
  • Cleveland in 7

    1 5.88%
  • Detroit in 4

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  • Detroit in 7

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Thread: OST: 2008/09 NBA Playoffs - Rd 1 (1)Cleveland vs. (8)Detroit (Cavs sweep 4-0)

  1. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Gl'enn
    Anybody see anything they didn't expect?
    nope, this was as predictable as an episode of Go Diego Go, and just a painful to sit through. Mr. Anti-Humility Bron Bron is a freak and, as if he needs it, he's going to get help from the officials.

    3 more games and we can put this season behind us

  2. #52
    Hey, me too - remember I'm the guy that said we should have tanked!

    Stuckey going 7-21 doen't win him asshole of the game, unless he spent the night trying to be Kobe and hogged it.

    Tay taking less than 10 shots is fucking pathetic. That's 1 thing I like about Stuckey - he won't die wondering. Pity Tay and Rip and Dice don't have more of that in them.
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    Ye are many - they are few.

  3. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by Gl'enn
    Hopefully, we're one game closer to Sheed's Piston career being over.
    that is the best way to look at this

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    Those fuckin announcers pouring salt in the wound when they talked about no one helped out our players on the floor. I think they said, that is a sign this teams run is done. Anyone else hear that?

  5. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    to make adjustments you have to have a gameplan first.
    no kidding. How many times did Van Gundy ask why they were posting up on Lebron instead of the guys who were exploiting their matchups. It just seemed like there was no rime or reason to their offensive plays. They had matchups to exploit and just did whatever else to ignore them.

    They didn't play a lick of defense either. It wasn't just pick and roll defense either (that was a problem, but not all the problem). How many times did they get burned on a cut to the basket? It looked like a rec league team out there on defense (watching cutters go to the basket at will).

    Did anybody else notice we got Rick Rolled on national TV at the end (about a minute left)?
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    Wings, Tigers and Pistons all played. If I had to pick 2 wins out of 3, I would have picked the Wings and the Tigs. Successful day, imo.

    Not because I like them more, but at least they have a shot at winning it.

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    LeBron Taking His Game Even Higher

    By Chris Broussard
    ESPN The Magazine

    CLEVELAND -- The voice on the radio was booming, coming at its listening audience with full force, imploring fans to enjoy this. To cast aside all fears of the dreaded 2010, to put aside all doubt that the locals can go all the way, and to simply enjoy what they are witnessing at this very moment.

    The voice belonged to a Cleveland broadcaster, and he was addressing fans of the Cavaliers. But as I watched LeBron James rip the not-so-Bad Boys of Detroit to shreds 102-84 on Saturday afternoon, I realized that the words I heard on my drive from the airport to "The Q" apply to all us basketball fans:

    Let's do ourselves a favor and enjoy this.

    What we are watching is historic. He is not just a perennial All-Star, not merely the greatest player of his era, not even the next Kobe.

    LeBron James is better than all that.


    Once he starts winning rings, which could be in two months or so, he'll replace Bird as the best small forward. If he and Kobe meet in the dream Finals and the Cavaliers win, he'll forever be listed ahead of Mamba in the rankings of all-time greats. (Why? Because Kobe has the much better supporting cast, what with Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum, Lamar Odom and history's winningest coach not named Red Auerbach.)

    And for as much as we hear about the great Oscar Robertson's triple-double season of 1961-62, LeBron's current numbers dwarf the Big O's when adjusted for pace of play. Back when Oscar got his 3D, teams averaged 118 points and 71 rebounds per game. Today, they average just 99 points and 41 boards.

    Back in March, when ESPN's brainiacs in the Stats & Information department compared LeBron's stats to Oscar's, they told me LeBron would average 40 points, nearly 15 rebounds and 9.6 assists in the up-tempo, shot-happy game of 1961-62. Oscar, on the other hand, would average 21.7 points, 8.4 assists and 6 rebounds today.

    But that's not the scary thing. This is: LeBron's getting better.

    We've all seen several LeBron masterpieces. And although his 48-point performance against these same (well, sort of) Detroit Pistons in the 2007 playoffs has to go down as his all-time tour de force, what he did Saturday in Game 1 of this first-round series was about as good as it gets.

    Still just 24 years old, he was so poised, so cool, so collected in dismantling Rasheed and Rip and Tay that it was ridiculous. He played 40 minutes, 52 seconds, scored 38 points on 13-of-20 shooting, grabbed eight rebounds, handled the ball enough to give out a game-high seven assists and never committed a turnover. Not one.

    He let the Pistons know from jump street that their dreams of pulling off a Buster Douglas-type upset were folly by scoring 12 points in the first quarter, including a couple of dunks that had Sheed all but cowering beneath the basket.

    In the second quarter, he pulled down a defensive rebound, pushed the ball up the court (you know he plays point about 60 percent of the time) and threw a left-handed, Stockton-esque pass off the bounce that found a streaking Joe Smith for an easy dunk.

    Seven minutes later, he hit Zydrunas Ilgauskas in the post, cut toward the basket and caught Z's alley-oop pass at the rim for a sweet finger roll. Then, on the very next possession, he hit a 41-footer off the glass to beat the buzzer to end the half.

    After the first two quarters, LeBron had 22 points, more than any other player scored the entire game.

    "It's kind of scary to say this when talking about LeBron," teammate Daniel Gibson said. "But this is the time of year when the best players take it to another level."

    Another level? You mean there's one beyond what we've been seeing?

    Actually, we witnessed some next-level stuff Saturday. In the past, critics had wondered when LeBron would start playing the type of defense we all knew he was capable of. Of course, he has done it this season and garnered some NBA Defensive Player of the Year consideration.

    Now, some are saying LeBron should post up more. At 6-foot-8, 270 pounds, with the quickness and speed of a point guard, he would be unstoppable. Last week, I asked him about his becoming a beast on the block one day.

    "Sometimes being in the post gets boring," LeBron said with a laugh. "I know it can be easy, but it gets boring down there. I like being on the perimeter shaking and baking it, getting to the cup. It gets boring down there in the post sometimes. That's why sometimes I don't go down there, but every now and then, you'll see me down there."

    We saw him down there a few times Saturday, and it did indeed look boring, as in, "This is so easy, it's boring me to death." Heck, it looked as though LeBron was playing against his 4-year-old son, Lil' LeBron.

    Once, he posted up poor Arron Afflalo, who actually looks burly next to most players, backed him down into the paint and scored on a short jumper. Another time, he posted Walter Herrmann, who also cuts an imposing figure next to most hoopers, on the opposite block before sinking a turnaround J. Whenever the Pistons sent double-teams, LeBron picked them apart with passes that led to buckets.

    But most of the time, he was out there "shaking and baking it." Obviously, that worked, too.

    But what will happen when he finds just the right mix of perimeter and post? I mean, he's already on the cusp of winning a title without another elite star by his side. Even though he's neck-and-neck with Kobe for the best player in the game, I'd say he's only about 85-90 percent of the player he can be.

    That's why all of us, not just Cavaliers fans, need to heed the words of the voice on the radio in Cleveland and watch closely and enjoy every time LeBron steps on the court. Because we may soon see something we've never seen before -- or at least not before or since the 1990s.

    Chris Broussard is a senior writer at ESPN The Magazine.
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    I hope Kwame puts him on his wallet one of these times. The problem is he'd have to fight the Cavs starting 5 by himself. No body has each others back on this team....e.g., Stuck fouled by Shaq and the team stands by and does nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tahoe
    I hope Kwame puts him on his wallet one of these times. The problem is he'd have to fight the Cavs starting 5 by himself. No body has each others back on this team....e.g., Stuck fouled by Shaq and the team stands by and does nothing.
    With the rest of the world?
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    I wonder what the "crowds" at the Palace will look like next week (or whenever game 3 is).

    Let's see if they try to pass it off as a sell out.
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