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    Sheed needs to start at center next game.

    If he picks up quick fouls, so be it. But he can't be guarding Rashard Lewis anymore.

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    Piston in 5 now that the League game is out of the way.
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    Stuckey did a great job of getting his own, maybe the best that I have seen him in that regard, but the kid is not a PG. I can't recall seeing him get someone else an open look, and that's not going to fly as a PG.

    I think he'll eventually make Rip expendible once this PG experiment is over.

    So here's where I wish we had a solid #2 PG, one that can stop dribble penetration and get others open looks. I don't think I need to mention any names.

    Hopefully Billups is good to go for game #2, because I think we'll see a steady dose of Lindesy Hunter if he is not.
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    Oh, and I guarantee that there are Tragic fans out there thinking and saying that the Billups injury was karma.
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    Sheed was -30
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    Billups' health might now hold key to series
    By John Hollinger
    ESPN.com

    Updated: May 8, 2008

    ORLANDO -- Fans commonly say one needn't start watching an NBA game until the very end. Sorry to disappoint, but if you missed the first five minutes of Game 3 between the Orlando Magic and Detroit Pistons, you missed everything.

    The Magic landed a 20-3 haymaker to start the game en route to a 111-86 rout of Detroit on Wednesday night that closed their best-of-seven Eastern Conference semifinal series to 2-1 in favor of the Pistons.

    More importantly, Detroit guard Chauncey Billups went down 3:49 into the game with a strained right hamstring, a potentially series-altering injury that removed the Pistons' best player from the floor for the final 44 minutes.

    Billups left without talking to the media, but the Pistons are hopeful he'll be ready in time for Saturday's Game 4.

    "We're shooting for him to play on Saturday," said Detroit coach Flip Saunders. "It's sore right now [and] we won't know for the next 24 hours where he's really at, but all indications are we're shooting for him to go on Saturday."

    Not that his absence altered the outcome of Game 3 much. Even in the first four minutes with Billups out there, it was obvious Orlando was the more energetic team tonight. The Magic blocked two of Detroit's first three shots, got a pure hustle offensive rebound from Maurice Evans (credited as a team rebound in the box score) and held Detroit to one measly basket in the first four minutes -- all before Billups left the game.

    "It wasn't Chauncey [being out]," said Pistons guard Richard Hamilton. "We were still down big early. I thought we didn't do a good job of trying to get to the basket; I thought we settled for jump shots." Duh.

    "The two biggest factors were our start and Chauncey's injury," said Magic coach Stan Van Gundy. "You can't negate that. He's not only a great player but he's their leader and he runs everything."

    Actually, there was one other big factor: Detroit had no answer whatsoever for Rashard Lewis. He earned every cent of his $118 million tonight with 33 points on 11-of-15 shooting, including 5-of-6 on 3-pointers, to go with six rebounds, five assists and two steals.

    As an added plus, Detroit's Rasheed Wallace seemed uncomfortable chasing him around the 3-point line and spent much of the game in foul trouble. In fact, Lewis is changing Detroit's matchups in this series -- the Pistons again used Walter Herrmann far more than usual (12:57 tonight) because they needed to match up small against Orlando.

    "Just like we have some matchup problems with them, Rashard is a tough guy to guard out on the perimeter," Van Gundy said. "He was knocking down shots, and then you get up on him and he gets a chance to drive the ball. He was terrific today."

    Yet the Magic's fine effort takes a backseat to the big questions du jour from the Detroit end: Will Billups play, and if so when? When he does, how limited will he be? And either way, how does it change the course of this series?

    Working in his favor is that Billups gets two days off to recuperate. Also, Detroit's record with its players recuperating from injuries is absolutely amazing. Trainer Arnie Kander is widely regarded as the league's best, and he's one reason the Pistons have stayed almost comically injury-free the past half-decade.

    Yet one wonders how Detroit can fare if its best player is either limited or absent in the next week and a half. In his place, rookie Rodney Stuckey came in and was torched almost immediately by Orlando's Jameer Nelson. Stuckey permitted him nine first-quarter points and fouled him twice before getting yanked in favor of Arron Afflalo.

    Once he returned, Stuckey played much better, and he finished with 19 points. He also helped the Pistons push the pace much more than we're used to seeing, with Detroit scoring 20 fast-break points. He even helped Detroit get the game back within four points at the end of the third quarter before another Lewis-fueled Orlando run put the game away.

    Nonetheless, Stuckey is hardly an equivalent replacement for ruthlessly efficient Billups. In the first two games, Billups toyed with the Magic -- he had 47 points and only two turnovers while shooting 18-for-19 from the line. Without him, Detroit's offense too often degenerated into jumpers from Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince.

    "We were trying to ride Rip and Tay a lot, but that sucked some energy out of them," Saunders said. The two combined to play 85 minutes and took 34 of Detroit's 77 shots.

    "Now they know what it's like not to have a point guard," joked an Orlando scribe with me at halftime. But the difference is Detroit doesn't have Dwight Howard -- who was quietly dominant with 20 points, 12 boards, six blocks and at least as many strong challenges -- to make up for it.

    "[The point guard] matchup has been huge for us," Saunders said. "It's probably best we have a couple days to get [Billups] some rest, but also to have another plan in case he doesn't play."

    Indeed, the Pistons will have to look hard at Plan B options even if Billups says he can go; hamstring injuries seem to come back like weeds. For instance, look for Detroit to activate Lindsey Hunter next game instead of either Jarvis Hayes or Amir Johnson, and expect Saunders to put in more plays that start with the ball in Prince's capable hands.

    However, a far better option is Plan A -- having a healthy Billups on the court. If that option isn't available, this series may have changed dramatically.
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    wow. i STRONGLY disagree with that. while i agree the kid has a lot to learn he VERY often has shown me he can get open looks for other players.

    he is more of a combo guard than a true PG because of his scoring ability. but he's not only very unselfish, he's a good creator too. OK he still has a lot to learn about running the team, true. but i'm surprised to see that said about him actually.

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    OK just re-read that. if you were talking about just this game, specifically then i can see the point. but in general terms he's a very good passer and has shown he can create easy shots for others IMO.

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    I don't understant why we didn't have Sheed/J-Max/Theo punish Lewis in the post like he was punishing us outside the arc. We did a good job with Tay and Stuckey posting up in the third, and theat brought us to within 3. But Lewis cannot defend in the post, and continuing to go to whoever he was guarding would have frustrated him enough to throw him off of his game like it did in game 1.

    I don't expect that kind of performance from him or the entire Magic team again. I fully expect to be headed to Detroit up 3-1, Billups or no Billups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kstat
    Sheed needs to start at center next game.

    If he picks up quick fouls, so be it. But he can't be guarding Rashard Lewis anymore.
    I agree. Shard is way to "swifty" for Sheed to cover, I think your better off having Tay on Shard and putting either Rip or Dyess on Hedo, Hedo's not going to drive to the basket very often unlike Shard

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