Official "John Hollinger is a Cunt" Thread

[Wilfredo Ledezma]

In this particular case it's all about strength of schedule but it should balance out as we get deeper into the season. The pistons have played a lot of crappy teams. If you sort that list by strength of schedule, the pistons are second to last.

With only 12 games gone by, they take a double hit because the schedule for the last 10 and the schedule for the full season get counted.

Then he should really get a new name for it rather than having that formula translate into "power rankings"

[geerussell]

Then he should really get a new name for it rather than having that formula translate into "power rankings"

Because there's an official definition of what "power rankings" are that this violates? I always figured that anything that subjectively ranked teams based on anything other than W/L record qualified. Even though this one is formula based it's still just one person's opinion on which stats other than W/L offer some insight on how well a team is doing at a given moment.

I'd be interested to see someone go beyond "it's dumb because the pistons aren't near the top" to go into any detail about why the premise is flawed.

[Atticus771]

Because there's an official definition of what "power rankings" are that this violates? I always figured that anything that subjectively ranked teams based on anything other than W/L record qualified. Even though this one is formula based it's still just one person's opinion on which stats other than W/L offer some insight on how well a team is doing at a given moment.

I'd be interested to see someone go beyond "it's dumb because the pistons aren't near the top" to go into any detail about why the premise is flawed.

It's dumb because sports don't = mathematical formulas.

[geerussell]

It's dumb because sports don't = mathematical formulas.

You're right, stats have no place in sports discussions.

[Hermy]

You're right, stats have no place in sports discussions.

Stats have a place in sports discussions. Not any and every place.

[geerussell]

Stats have a place in sports discussions. Not any and every place.

Who/when/where was it suggested that it was the end all and be all?

[Zekyl]

Who/when/where was it suggested that it was the end all and be all?

He's got a point here. Some people may hate all the shit Hollinger does, but if you don't like it just don't read it. Some people enjoy that little bit of extra perspective. He's not saying this is the only way to rank the teams in the league. He's just saying that based on their stats, this is how it shakes out. I also think that if we give this a little more time into the season, it'll look a little bit more plausible. It's still far too small of a sample.

[Hermy]

Who/when/where was it suggested that it was the end all and be all?

John Hollinger.

[Comrade]

You're right, stats have no place in sports discussions.

He's so right, it's not like NBA teams are adding statisticians to their scout teams or anything.