Political news, yo.

[Glenn]

Looks like Bush is never going to learn how to get out of his own way.

White House denies leaking info that hurt Al-Qaeda spying

1 hour, 9 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - The White House on Tuesday denied being the source of a leak involving an Osama bin Laden video that a private intelligence firm said had sabotaged its secret ability to intercept Al-Qaeda messages.

Asked if the White House was the source of the leak, spokeswoman Dana Perino said: "No, we were not ... We were very concerned to learn about it."

The SITE Intelligence Group said it lost access that it had covertly acquired to Al-Qaeda's communications network when the administration of President George W. Bush let out that the company had obtained a bin Laden video early last month ahead of its official release, the Washington Post said.

"Techniques that took years to develop are now ineffective and worthless," SITE founder Rita Katz told the newspaper.

SITE monitors websites and public communications linked to radical Islamist groups and organizations deemed terrorist by US authorities and provides the information to clients, including news media companies.

It got hold of the bin Laden video before its release and provided it for free to the White House on the morning of September 7 but insisted that the video's existence remain secret until it spotted the official release, in order to protect its own work.

"Within 20 minutes, a range of intelligence agencies had begun downloading it from the company's website," the Post said.

By that afternoon the video and a transcript from it had been leaked to a cable television news network and broadcast worldwide, the Post reported.

According to Katz, this tipped off Al-Qaeda that its communications security had been breached by SITE.

White House officials said the matter would be referred to the Director of National Intelligence, and that the White House was not planning any internal investigation.

"When the White House receives information from an individual or a company, we refer that appropriately to the intelligence community. That's what happened here," Perino said.

"And I'll have to refer you to the Director on National Intelligence for any process problem they had in that regard."

Homeland security adviser Fran Townsend echoed Perino's "concern" and referred the matter to the nation's spy chief.

"This is going to be an issue for the DNI to look at so that we can understand what, if anything, happened, and how to deal with it to ensure that we fully protect those who cooperate with us," Townsend said.

"I haven't looked at the internal White House emails, so what I can tell you is the DNI and the Intelligence Committee will need to look at who had access to it.

She added: "We are only going to be successful in the war on terror with the help of the American people."

The video appeared to be timed to coincide with the sixth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the United States, and was bin Laden's first video appearance since October 2004.

In it, the elusive Al-Qaeda chief mocked the United States as "weak" and vowed to escalate fighting in Iraq.

Another US-based organization that monitors Islamic militant websites, IntelCenter, said its "sources, methods and techniques ... to collect terrorist video material remain intact," according to CEO Ben Venzke, who added that the focus on rushing videos to the public could have dangerous consequences.

"Simply getting the video first but not having the professional knowledge and responsibilities to know what to do with it can not only result in the loss of valuable intelligence but it can actually harm ongoing activities within the official counterterrorism community," he said.

This "has happened time and time again when private citizens and organizations outside of the IC (intelligence community) play in fields where they lack the depth and experience."

[Big Swami]

Rabble rabble rabble! It's time for another toothless, retarded investigation by the Congressional Democrats that will find all kinds of horrible wrongdoing and punish exactly no one! Rabble rabble rabble!

[Glenn]

or they'll all get pardoned

[Tahoe]

Thats fucked up. Hopefully they'll find out for sure who did it.

If true, its no different then the NYT leaking info about our secrets or the Dems wanting to tell the world our secrets.

[Tahoe]

NYC Councilman meltdown.

[Tahoe]

Canadian mothers being shipped to US for giving birth. Maybe Michael needs to readdress how great the Canadian system is in his movie.

[Uncle Mxy]

Canadian mothers being shipped to US for giving birth. Maybe Michael needs to readdress how great the Canadian system is in his movie.

The interesting thing about the Canadian situation here is that they're NOT lacking the doctors or the beds. In fact, the decline of the American dollar is keeping more Canadian doctors in Canada as of late. It's the lack of qualified nursing staff, specifically nurses that can handle babies needing intensive care at birth (e.g. preemies, triplets). That's not an area where the U.S. healthcare system has any great edge or bragging rights.

[Big Swami]

God dammit, if I have to have anything important done to my body anytime in my life, I hope it's in some place like Denmark.

[Tahoe]

Thanks to CNN, Carter was able to spout off for a while. Just know, imo anyways, the more Carter talks, the better for the Republicans.

[Uncle Mxy]

Thanks to CNN, Carter was able to spout off for a while. Just know, imo anyways, the more Carter talks, the better for the Republicans.

I think most people agree that we do torture. We might called it an "energized disassembly of willpower with the aid of instructive props" or some euphemistic bullshit. But the Potter Stewart "I know it when I see it" standard applies here as much as it does with other forms of porn. Someone sees waterboarding and has a hard time convincing themselves that's NOT torture. Of course, that's not the real sticking point. The issue is -- deep in people's hearts, we want to see people tortured. I think there's a lot of people in both big parties who condone torture, even if they wouldn't ever say or or look in the mirror and admit it to themselves in some conscious way.