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In the meantime, Notre Dame players have begun arriving for a team meeting.
The Monday afternoon meeting will include a vote on whether the players want to play in a bowl game after their 6-6 season. Athletic director Jack Swarbrick has said he will consider the players’ wishes in deciding on a bowl trip.
Not a shocker. I see the bowl projections have ND facing my Chips in the GMAC bowl (Mobile, AL).
I saw Weis bragging about NFL OC offers earlier this morning. Wonder if that sent them over the edge. Otherwise you'd think they would have had him coach the bowl game first.
What kind of douchebag players wouldn't want to play in a bowl game, even if it's the Trojan Magnum's Bowl or something of that caliber?
They only play for fat guys.
Too soon?
Let me be the first to break the news
IZZO TO N.D.
LOL at the contract. did Dombrowski show them how to give out long contracts without seeing any performance first?Quote:
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This should've been posted in the things that are obvious thread.
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ESPN reporting Bowden has been given 2 options: Fisher as HC and Bowden will be ambassador, or resign.
Ambassador... LOL.
I hope he wears a robe to the games.
No shame in losing to TEBOW by 27 in your final game.
Good riddance. He will forever be a great offensive coordinator, but never a head coach. This teams defense made Tate Forcier look like a Heisman candidate.
Who do you like DBTM?
Or was the coach already hired. I haven't heard much news today.
I understand the players turning this down. Besides, it'd cost Notre Dame more to go to the game than the payout. Notre Dame doesn't need shit bag bowl games. The players probably like Charlie and would want him to coach them.Quote:
Originally Posted by MoTown
Their motivation for this game would be less than zero, and it's nothing more than an opportunity to be embarrassed when the go up against a team with the world to play for. And after a long season--15 more practices? Who the hell wants to do that just to play some team with directions or fourteen words in its name?
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Bowden "to announce retirement tomorrow". Shitcanned IMO.
why even let the players vote? all it does is make them look like quitters if they want to decline. its a crappy situation either way, the AD should man up and make the tough call.
i think theres a lesson in ND. the school hasnt had the right man aboard in over a decade, and probably put up with weiss several years too long. but after several fiascos-- hiring a liar and an unproven hot shot coach from standford (sound familiar?)-- they wanted to give chuckles every chance they could before blowing through another coach.
it seems common sensical to fire too early than too late, especially if it seems the writing is on the walls, as it somewhat does with RR. but really, one year can only make a big difference if the coach is bringing on sanctions. far worse than one lost year is bringing in the wrong guy again.
people think harbough is some sort of prodigy... lets see how he does without a heisman contending rb for a year. the way college coach's stock moves, by this time next year all the michigan fans who know right now he's the only man for the job might have a drastically different impression of him. or not. but whats another year?
"Let's see how he does without a heisman contending rb for a year"
Uh, diddy, Gerhardt was a freshman in 2007--Harbaugh's first year. Harbaugh recruited him. And gerhardt was a lowly three-star.
Ummm, yeah, let's see how Harbaugh does without him. Not that he has recruited any other good players.
Sometimes, you are a complete fucking idiot. Unlike DickRod, Harbaugh appears to know how to use the talent he brings in.
Coaches help make Heisman candidates BTW. talent means shit if the coaching doesn't exploit there strengths.
Let's see how Meyer does without a Heisman QB, or Carrol does without Heisman QB's...
That is bad logic. Look at Weis. He had a Heisman type QB and 2+ great WR's and did shit with that team.
harbough was 5-7 after year 2 at stanford, which followed a dazzling 4-8. this year, where he's the greatest coach of all time, he's 8-4. 3 more wins than rr.
i just dont see what the rush is to get this guy in. and based on his track record, he'll need more than the two years we gave RR to turn this around. would he get that, or is his ass fired too?
Harbaugh is an ass.
People love to kiss ass.
diddly, your points on Harbaugh are duly noted. But to quote Allen Iverson, "We talkin' bout stanfud. Main, dass stanfud. We all up in dis mug talkin' bout stanfud"
He didn't destroy Stanford and then put shit out on the field his first two years. They've been good like three times in the last century. Their academic requirements mean they have to recruit players who actually mean things like, "Um, yeah, academimums is impertinent to me" And he DO find ways to get his teams up for big games.
Lookie here: This is one of those "fit" things. Harbaugh would fit the same way Miles would have. If you don't see that, you need to be knocked upside your head. I'm not going to explain that concept.
Now not to say DickRod can't be a "fit" at UM. But what the hell does he need? Five more years to get "Hizz Guyzz"? How the fuck come we've hired the ONE coach in the world who is the onliest guy ever who needs players so goddamm specific for Hizz Systemzz? And why the fuck does Michigan have the ONE GODDAMM guy who is the onliest one in the world who knows what kind of player he needs?
That's BULLSHIT.
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Whoever it is, he must be a winner at the college level. No more of this NFL bullshit or ND alumni bullshit. Give me someone that can recruit offense AND defense and coach them up. Id rather have Bob Stoops than Brian Kelly, but Kelly looks like the most realistic scenario.
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I go to thetwins81 for this shit.
My sources*are telling me Swarbrick's throwing out the feelers to Meyer, Kelly, and Kevin Sumlin.
* No actual sources
Kelly would be hilarious at ND, dude is such a loose cannon.
Rich Rod is my choice, and I'm sticking to it.
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Kelly, a Massachusetts native and proud Irish American
1) i wont disagree RR could have handled the transition better. but as we get deeper into his tenure, who cares? it'll be forgiven quickly if we win next year.Quote:
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2) i like that harbough went after USC, and would love to see us go at OSU. but its 2 wins. if RR goes another crappy 5-7 next year, i'd want him fired. but he'd only have 4 less wins than harbough over 3 years.
3) doing it at stanford is maybe impressive, but its not like the pac 10 has been much the last 3 years (nor has the big ten last 2).
4) i disagree with the fit thing. i dont see it as an issue with RR and hate the point. if your arguing you need to be defensive minded... you need to be more so than he's been, but just recently NC games have been track meets. i dont think theres a golden formula. you just need to be good, have luck, and an ultra dedicated staff.
Most say you have to give coaches 2-3 years to get their players in. Harbaugh is in year 3. In year 2 he won every home game except USC (ranked #6 overall)
Meanwhile, RR has lost home games to crappy teams like Illinois and Toledo while not obtaining a winning record or a bowl game.
This is despite having a top 3 school in the conference. Stanford is a bottom 3 school in the conference for football recruiting power I would guess.
new coach, new excuses?
im not saying harbough isnt intriguing. he might be an upgrade. but why rush into a decision? are we really sure he's the dream candidate based on his 17-19 record at stanford?
one more year of RR is so unbearable? i just dont get it. in the world of college football coaching stock seems to fluctuate riduculously, i think its absurd to simply chase the hot name at the moment.
no one would hire harbough over the RR of 2 years ago.
ha ha ha ha, our boy TheTwins just posted a thread on gobluewolverine.com about BK to ND which is already over 24 hours old and he has been getting nothing but flack since the exact same thread had already been posted twice last night. He is pulling a nice Doc Tre over there.
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Point 3: The Pac Ten was 5-0 in bowl games last year. 4-2 the year before. Umm, you may be one of those guys who doesn't watch their games because they come on late, but the conference is good. It's under rated because they play later and the member schools are located in places where you can go outside in the winter (for Michigan, that means 11 months a year) without freezing your dick off--and people are jealous of that.
Point 4: I said DickRod could fitzwell in at Michigan. If you don't see it as an issue with him, well then you haven't been paying attention lately and you must buy into the fact that Michigan football needed to be nuked and rebuilt up from nothing.
The NC games the last three years have been track meets for teams playing Ohio State. Last year's game between Oklahoma and Florida featured offenses averaging 50 and 40 PPG--and the final score was 24-14.
At some point I'd like you to stop living under perception. You really need to pull head out of ass and look around to see what's going on. You post as if you are some hermit who doesn't read newspapers, watch tv, and get your news from your equally suspicious neighbor Earl--who gets his news via his ham radio network and Star Trek Weekly.
Don't knock Star Trek Weekly.
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even if i concede every point, even getting all my news second hand via star treck weekly, i dont think you've made much of a case that jimmmmmmmmah needs to be brought in this year.
its like, what are you afraid of? harbough sucking? rich rod succeeding? i'd rather find out harbough sucks sooner than year 3 of his tenure at michigan.
i know you hate apologists, but we lost to osu for 1 reason: tate forcier made like 4 freshman mistakes. in every other aspect we either were better by some or alot. richy outcoached sweatervest. we need more than moral victories, but its something.
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warren is almost definitly going pro it appears.
http://simg.sportsbybrooks.com/8/3/8...9_corykipp.jpg
The joke here is too obvious.
Kelly officially makes his interest in ND job public.
Chicago Sun Times says that ND might be ready to announce as soon as tomorrow, it they say that Stoops is still in the mix.
But I bet it's Kelly.