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yay, Flip X2 (rolls eyes)
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http://www.mlive.com/pistons/weblog/...07.html#161471
yay, Flip X2 (rolls eyes)
YES!!!!!!!!!!!
I love you Joe D.
NBA TITLE HERE WE COME!!!!!
Perfect, Delk was too old, and Atkins sucks. Good Joe D.
What's that load he pitched whine I hear coming from the south?
Oh that's just el Fino.
Come on, you have to admit it's nice to at least think positive for once, even if you go waaay overboard......
I think Murray is what we need: A scorer.
This way, Delfino can do what he does best, and not worry about putting points on the board. We now have someone else that can take that burden off him.
Don't look at Murray's stats in Cleveland. He was horribly-misused.
Nice.
i dont know... our bench was so anemic that this almost seems like a no brainer. but everywhere he's gone theyve been glad to see him go.
hes a classic talent that doesnt 'get it'.
Delfino=Gone.
YAY!
Cry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Not quite unless Acker takes over his spot.
Sheed/Nazr/dd
Dice/Sheed/Max
Tay/Flip/amir
Rip/ fino or Acker
Billups/Hunter/Blalock
I would think that Flip would compliment Delfino more than hurt him.
Flip's a finisher, Delfino's a set-up man.
Delfino plays backup SF, Flip plays backup SG. I don't see the problem there.
You think el Fino will be happy playing 10-15 minutes a game? Ha.
i thought flip was a 1 or a 2. 3? where is that coming from?
Murray is a Chucker. Always has been, and always will be. He's a "scorer" that "scores" at a rate under 40%. He doesn't play D, and he is all about himself. He's decent in the clutch, but he will never be on the floor then, so it's pointless. Oh yea, and he sucks in the playoffs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
BTW, Delfino is gone. This is why Delfino bitched to the press again despite Mo being gone. They probably already told him about it.
would that mean Acker takes the backup role?
i was thinking the same thing, but it all depends on how Flip Saunders plays them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
i swear, Delfino must have stolen the girl WOD was trying to pick up at the bar or ran over his dog, to conjure up this much hatred............
Problem is, Murray is a worse shooter than Delfino is. Imagine Lindsey, Murray, and Delfino on the floor at once.... I think I just threw up a little...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
and neither of them will be very good in 10 minutes per game. We've never had a bench player that was, and it's not gonna start now. Players (especially guards) need like 20 minutes. That is if you're asking them to do more than come in and defend/rebound.
how do you know what kind of a player delfino is? he's hardly played at all for the pistons. maybe he likes to gun. who knows?
Nah he's just been whining for 3 years that he doesn't want to be here. Why do so many people give him a free pass on that shit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Murray isn't a chucker. He takes most of his shots inside 10 feet.Quote:
Originally Posted by FP22
Again, I just said don't look at how he did in Cleveland, because they used him as a spot-up shooter, which was idiotic.
Flip isn't a good outside shooter. He's a slasher and mid-range shooter.
And oh yeah, his only playoff series was one in which (again) he was misused.
BTW, don't even begin to try to defend delfino if he bitches about this. He should be just fine with 15 mpg.
Is that a joke?Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
Delfino's NEVER come into a game and jacked up shots. He's a pass-first slasher.
kind of like how Flip Saunders seemed to use Delfino at times? [smilie=sad3.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Exactly. Flip's fucking clueless. What makes you think he's gonna use Murray properly if he couldn't figure it out with the other players?Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Delfino wasn't really used that way, he just floated around the perimeter too damn often instead of being aggressive. When his confidence goes, he stops driving the lane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
did Flip Murray spend any time in Seattle at PG?
i just remember him for his scoring outburst, back when Ray Allen got hurt.....i don't remember him as one, just trying to recall...
i can't see why anyone would be upset with this signing.
he's no lebron, but for the price we got him he's a ridiculous bargain. he is a great slasher who can get to the hoop and get to the line. and he can score in bunches.
i think he can be a nice player for us. and again, considering what we were able to sign him for...it's a win-win situation.
who else could we have gotten with the BAE? i was expecting some aging, injury-prone has-been truthfully. but instead we got a young athletic scorer who brings a dimension to our team that we are in great need of.
yes, he is a very streaky shooter. but we can utilise him in ways to make the most of his STRENGTHS.
i'm shocked we were able to get him at such a bargain deal.
He's a back-up 2/3. He's not going to play PG. Flip and Delfino will duke it out for minutes at the 2 and 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Matt
Delfino will lose.
Then he will cry.
^^ i agree with Higherwarrior. i'm glad we were able to land someone. my biggest concern now is how Flip puts together this bench squad as a unit.
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Originally Posted by Higherwarrior
Because some people have to be negative, I guess.....
I agree, this is better than anything we could have hoped for, for the BAE.
kind of hard to jack up shots when you only play for 2 minutes at a time. carlos is a rhythm player that never was alloud to get into a rhythm. what happens if he gets in a rhythm and actually plays HIS game? know one (except, apparantly you) has seen much of this. the dude has played 1000 minutes in 2 years. thats nothing. its a little early to be calling delfino a setup man, or anything else, for that matter.
We should have brought Delk back instead of Lindsey if we were going this route. Now our bench is filled with a bunch of guys who can't shoot for shit. You need a couple guys who can shoot to open up the driving lanes.
You're right. After 20 minutes on the floor, he starts snorting cocaine on the scorer's table and begins spontaniously combusting.
because every team he's played on has been glad to see him go. he's well known for his horrible shot selections, being a black hole, and not playing D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higherwarrior
not saying he wont be a boost, but there are going to be plenty of times where you'll want him off the court.
Please tell me you didn't just imply that this team needs MORE jump-shooters...LMAOQuote:
Originally Posted by FP22
I wish Gutz was here, for once.
What'd I tell ya (gleaming with pride like he just won the fucking lottery).Quote:
Originally Posted by DM
Flip just wants another "Flip" around, so he can point a finger when the media slams a "Flip" for all of the pistons troubles.
You mean like the Sonics.....and the cavs....and the sonics...and the cavs...?Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
"every team" lol
Every team chauncey played for before us was happy to see him go too.
The Wizards threw a party when they got stack for Rip.
i agree 100%. in fact, the only guys who seem to do well in spot minutes are the "lesser talented" energy players. guys like Mo Evans who come and just crash the offensive board and spot up for threes. nothing wrong with that of course, but i (along w/ b-diddy and others) think that Delfino's impact in made when he's allowed to get into a rhythm and study what's happening on the floor. that's when he'll get an important steal, the pass that leads to an assist, or make a solid defensive play to prevent a score. i'd really like to see Flip and Delfino compliment each others' games.Quote:
Originally Posted by b-diddy
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Originally Posted by Matt
Actually, no.
According to b-diddy, you can't talk about what kind of player delfino is, because he has yet to play 30 MPG.
yeah, we can easily remedy that by mixing in guys like Rip and Chauncey (shooters) w/ the bench. we don't need all 5 bench guys out at once.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
i guess i took b-diddy's statement one step further. i still believe what i wrote, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat