Fix our cap....

Realistic ideas only please.

Here are some of mine.

Please please don't overpay Stuckey and Jonas. No more than 6.5 starting for stuck please.

Ben Gordon for Beasley and Luke Ridnour. I have absolutely no interest in Ridnour, but his salary is small and ends the same year as BenGo and they just arent going to help us out like that with no picks.

Keep Rip for a season and start him at SG. I think a vet with Knight who can get him assists will help. stuck will play both guard spots and be the closer at SG. Rip will get us a nice asset as an expiring the following season.

If there is amnesty, get rid of CV. He is Beasley with more outside chucking.

Do not S&T Tay unless we get an expiring, or a 2 year expiring with a pick.

My suggestion:

Rip to Charlotte for Diaw (exp) and Najara (exp)

BG, CV, and rights to Singler to Phoenix for VC (exp w/ buy out)

Not sure why phoenix would do that at all but sign me up. Seriously that deal is terrible for them.

The Diaw suggestion seems nice since it would give us a sf option, expiring contract to move, and allow us to use our amnesty on gordon or cv. Nice.

Still baffles me that he overpaid both of them like that before any other rumors of other potential suitors for them. He basically outbid himself, which goes %100 against the way he built the championship team. He's basically turned into Mark Cuban without having a star to surround (like Dirk).

Anyway, I'm a fan of any deal that sends RIP, CV or BG out for nothing but expiring deals (don't care if they even have two legs). You can include unlimited 2nd round picks too if that helps (or Daye or Bynum if need be).

I couldn't agree more. In fact I would argue Knight and Monroe are the only two people worth keeping on this roster at all. What we need is roster amnesty.

If it took Jerebko to get us rid of Bengo, I would do it. You do that, amnesty CV, and the whole roster is purged by next season.

we are screwed without an amnesty clause, i would hold onto RIP, Maxiell and Bynum now, after this coming short lockout - season they are all expiring and gain value actually, Gordon has to have more trade value than Charlie, so use amnesty on Charlie and try to trade Gordon for anything useful, which means a player or two with shorter contracts

Replace Joe's insulin with liquid sugar.

Done.

I can hear Joe already.

"Amnesty? You telling em I've got a player as good as Ben Gordon and you want me to just let him go? For nothing? Maaaan. "

I think he will use it on CV unfortunately, but not that unfortunately since he sucks.

I think that CV would be the right move but ti will depend on what they end up doing with the cap. It might be that they have to drop their biggest contract instead of their worst one.

I still can't understand how they can legally alter the size of existing contracts. Even Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis deserve every penny of the contracts they signed and should be furious if they try to rollback any of their pay.

I'm not sure how exactly they would do it but since the contracts were signed, they had to abide by the CBA. If the contract has clauses that would allow it to be altered by a new CBA, then it would be entirely legal.

In no way would I feel bad for an NBA player having their high dollar contract voided. Gilbert is a perfect example. His whole firearm issue and lack of proper behavior not to mention his piss poor play are an issue. In the private sector, poor behavior and poor job performance are reasons for dismissal, even if you have a contract.

These guys make more in one year than many make in a lifetime not to mention all of the perks and endorsements. Is there contract getting voided any worse than an assembly worker getting laid off?

My understqnding is the teams are still on the hook for the full amount, but with no cap hit. They will negotiate a buyout with some players if that player would sign for a decent deal elsewhere or is in a bad situation.

What if there isn't an amnesty clause?

One thing to consider when bashing player salaries is the amount of money that they bring to their team as well as the ones they play. Just something to think about.

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Originally Posted by WTFchris

Still baffles me that he overpaid both of them like that before any other rumors of other potential suitors for them. He basically outbid himself, which goes %100 against the way he built the championship team. He's basically turned into Mark Cuban without having a star to surround (like Dirk).

Anyway, I'm a fan of any deal that sends RIP, CV or BG out for nothing but expiring deals (don't care if they even have two legs). You can include unlimited 2nd round picks too if that helps (or Daye or Bynum if need be).

Yep on both counts...
The underlying question is what could that cap have been better used for... we've seen enough financial sacrifices to know that Joe would have been much better off pursuing trades vs signing anyone in a bad year for FAs... however everyone would have bitched about Joe sitting on his hands... IMO it's clear that Joe should have looked to trade his expirings that year instead of settling for signing overpriced scrubs.
The new hard cap should dramatically increase trade value for the teams that haven't overspent (pennies on the dollar type deals).
At this stage we may have the least desirable trade assets in the NBA.

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Originally Posted by RegicideGreg

One thing to consider when bashing player salaries is the amount of money that they bring to their team as well as the ones they play. Just something to think about.

I don't consider that nor should I. At my job, the money that I have saved easily exceeds my salary by several zeros. Yet in my occupation, the public considers me overpaid and I don't make NBA money.

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Originally Posted by BIG BEN'S FRO

My understanding is the teams are still on the hook for the full amount, but with no cap hit. They will negotiate a buyout with some players if that player would sign for a decent deal elsewhere or is in a bad situation.

This would be true.

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Originally Posted by lospistones

I still can't understand how they can legally alter the size of existing contracts. Even Gilbert Arenas and Rashard Lewis deserve every penny of the contracts they signed and should be furious if they try to rollback any of their pay.

Tell that to the teachers in Wisconsin.

a contract is only a piece of paper or a worthless agreement between two parties.

Worthless depending on what the courts decide, which is ultimately the case in this or anything

If you can prove a reasonable sacrifice (in this case Arenas "sacrificed" signing with another team....or league...etc...), the courts will generally side with the contractee. Anything "given back" on contracts would likely be negotiated as an across the board pay-cut for all players ( i think the NHL did this...), not the wipe-out of a select few contracts. They may put provisions in for allowing future player contracts to be waived with no penalty (similar to NFL) but that would only apply to contracts negotiated under new CBA guidelines.

I think at least. Holiday Inn Express was all booked up last night, had to stay at a Red Roof Inn instead.