http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9...rated-players?
....wow that is quite the list...
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http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/9...rated-players?
....wow that is quite the list...
This part should be first, so you know not to read the rest.
I love that "you have to double him to stop him" is a criticism.Quote:
Chris Paul
There's no doubt that CP3 has always been a truly great passer and has also worked diligently to become a dangerous 3-point shooter. But there are several reasons why he belongs in this dubious category.
In half-court offenses, he's a threat to do damage only in screen-and-roll situations, which means that doubling him virtually renders him impotent.
Because of his diminutive size — listed at 6-feet but closer to 5-foot-10 — he can be easily doubled.
His defense consists of steals. Period. Which in turn depends mostly on opponents' mistakes.
Many opponents simply take the ball to their favorite spot and then shoot over him.
Even when using a screen-and-roll, he's not nearly as effective going left as he is going right.When was the last time that a pipsqueak-sized point guard led his team to an NBA championship? Slater Martin with the St. Louis Hawks in 1958 — which means that while Paul's Hornets will be a good team, they'll never be good enough.
Pretty harsh and not very accurate. Most of his honorable mentions seemed far more deserving, especially Peja and AI.
he'd love to be doubled...also Kevin Garnett is overrated, according to 3 games....
lol. by those criteria, Chauncey should def be in.
I love Chaz, but I'd much rather see him point out the most underrated.
LIKE FLIP MURRAY
Anderson? His knock is that all he does is block shots and pump up the crowd. OK, what more do you want from a big man off the bench?
And he says teams find a way to stop Boozer. The guy is a 20/10 player, so obviously he isn't stopped all that often.
Horrible article.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFchris
I do agree that those guys are overrated, but MOST overrated? Yes, Chris Anderson has been given a lot of attention and praise for a guy that is simply an energy guy. Yes, Chris Paul is touted as a flawless point guard as of late and he definitely has some flaws. The Boozer part seemed spot-on to me. That's why I said I didn't want him. These guys are all overrated, some more than others (Paul isn't THAT overrated, he's still a star with a ton of talent), but saying they're the most overrated is extreme.
Anderson signed for 5 years for well under the MLE. Max makes more than him and does half what he does. Anderson isn't overrated. For him to be overrated there would have to be big money thrown at him, 6th man of the year talk, etc. I've never heard any of that shit. He is a great role player, period. Nobody has ever said he's more than that.
I like his hair. All of their forms.
Should I feel bad that Charley Posin' forgot that Isiah was a pipsqueak champion PG?
I took everyone's advice and didn't read the article, but I would say pay doesn't necessarily match rating. Overpaid (or underpaid) is not overrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by WTFchris
If I hadn't made my post, I would have made this one.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Mxy
Rosen may know his X's and O's but as a journalist he's a complete moron. He has no idea how to actually have criteria and apply it. He simply has the players and teams he likes and applies criteria A and pretty much any other player and applies criteria B, C, D or E. But since he actually understands the game of basketball itself he gets away with double standards and complete stupidity.
Fixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by detroitexport
Just what I was about to say. He is paid what he deserves. He isn't overrated by the players/GMs themselves, but he is overrated by the media and fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jethro34
Remember when Chris Anderson was being throw around at WTF as the guy we should bring in to be a starting big? That's overrated. Again, I dont think he's one of the most overrated guys in the league, but the media tends to overrate him.
I could see calling him overexposed. Not overrated. What media people suggested he's a starting center in this league? Find me a credible one.
People on here suggested him as a starting center next to Bosh or Boozer maybe. He'd be ok if you have a good scoring PF next to him (because he provides no offense). There are worse starting centers in the league (including whoever we trot out there).
Dunk contest, IMO.
Bob Cousy. 6'1", 175 lbs.!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by some dumb fuck
Uh, Isiah????
I love idiots who use the past history of other players as a guarantee of future failures.
No scoring champion had won an NBA title in 20 years before Jordan did it in 1991....
You guys should make up a list of undersized PGs who've won the championship since the last time he mentioned.
PGs 6'1" (zeke's height) and under to start on an NBA championship team....
1950: Herm Schaefer
1951: Bob Davies
1952: Slater Martin
1953: Slater Martin
1954: Slater Martin
1957: Bob Cousy
1958: Slater Martin
1959: Bob Cousy
1960: Bob Cousy
1961: Bob Cousy
1962: Bob Cousy
1963: Bob Cousy
1964: Bob Cousy
1965: Bob Cousy
1981: Nate Archibald
1983: Maurice Cheeks
1989: Isiah Thomas
1990: Isiah Thomas
1999: Avery Johnson
2006: Jason Williams
2008: Rajon Rondo
2009: Derek Fisher
Rondo is only 6'1"?
I'd consider 6'1" an undersized PG, but I think he was referring to guys under 6', since he said Paul was listed at 6' but he's probably closer to 5'10".
every player on that list is at most 1 inch taller than chris paul. And no, I don't buy that he's really 5'10."
Even if you wanted to use the 5'10" standard, Avery Johnson is only that tall, and he started on a title team only 10 years ago.
CP3 is 5'11 3/4" with no shoes if I believe the Draftexpress pre-draft measures.
And since listings are based on height with shoes (or whatever the team wants to say, really), then he'd be 6'1" or so. Everyone on that list would fit.