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That makes much more sense now. Thanks for clearing it up. The main number I've heard is $55mil for Gordon, with a few random sources saying 50+ and 58. Same with CV's $40mil being the main number I keep hearing with a few sources saying 35. When do the official numbers get released?Quote:
Originally Posted by rugbypike#11
As for Rip, I completely forgot that his extension kicked in then. Good call.
i think Ben just wants to retire, didn't sound like he wants to play anymore, at all...
Without having any real solutions of their own?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
You have seen the brazilian off-season plans that I put up? If they were so unrelaistic why didn't people make it known at the time?
And you hate people bitching? I hate people shilling. Now that we both know what pisses the other person off maybe we can use that to our advantage in a game of "Thumb Wars"?
They're always fun. I must warn you, I have big thumbs.
You can be the devil's advocate, as long as I can still be me. Is that ok? Cool! If you wanna preach we might have some issues though. That's kinda my thing - or it used to be. We could share - but your attitude suggests yournot that kind of guy. And as the Devil's Advocate you should probably be aware the Knights In Satan's Service don't look kindly upon preachers.
Just looking out for you, bro. We're all in this together...
Until 2012 - then I go home and you're all done.
But hey, keep that to yourself.
Again no reply Kstat?
You're all up on me claiming I've flipped out and when I post something for you to really respond to you duck and run?
Are you hiding (like) in the John Que thread? Let's go see...
Okay, so the media consensus seems to be that the Pistons have roughly $3.5 million left in cap room. I tried to adjust the numbers to fit that consensus. I think I succeed by using these figures:
Ben Gordon $58 M/5 years
Charlie V $40 M/5 years
Also, Dave Dial points out in his blog that there is a minimum salary cap hold for any open roster spots below 12. Since the forum doesn't seem to like it when I paste cells, I'm going to paste in another post.
1 Charlie V $6,896,552
2 Ben Gordon $10,000,000
3 Rip Hamilton $11,625,000
4 Tayshaun Prince $10,324,380
5 Kwame Brown $4,000,000
6 Fabricio Oberto $1,900,000
7 Jason Maxiell $5,000,000
8 Rodney Stuckey $1,805,040
9 Will Bynum $825,497
10 Austin Daye $1,398,200 ($1,677,840)
11 Deron Washington $457,588
12 Jonas Jerebko $457,588
Dejaun Summers
TOTAL $54,689,845
Salary cap $57,700,000
Cap Space $3,010,155
I can't find an authority, but I believe that when you sign a free agent, the roster cap hold would simultaneously disappear.
So you take the $3 M cap space, add the $500 K roster hold, and we get to roughly $3.5 million of spending money.
More explanations:
Daye has two numbers. When a first round player is picked, he automatically counts for 100% of the rookie salary scale until he signs his contract or has a verbal contract agreement. Teams are allowed to sign rookies to 120% of the rookie salary scale, and that is always how it works out. Until Daye signs his contract, he'll count for the $1.3 million above. Once the contract is agreed to, he'll count for the $1.67 million in parenthesis.
The second round picks don't count against the cap until they sign, but I listed them anyway because there will be the aforementioned roster hold until they sign anyway. The numbers are the same, I left one rookie's salary blank because he hasn't signed yet, and he's above the 12 man roster threshold, so there is no minimum roster hold for that player.
Yeah, it's hard to get exact figures. Draft Express has a flat fee, but at $12,650,000 per year which is way off the reported 3 years/$34 million we've seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
The recalculation I just did was CV $40 M, Ben G $58 M. Ben G at $55 M would save about another $500 K this year so that could very well be the correct figure. That still would put us around $500 K without the evaporating roster hold that I fabricated in my head ha.
LOL@Kstat accusing P of not having any solutions.
I'll be pissed if there is no trade for a starting caliber center. In terms of having faith that is going to happen, I'm probably 50-50 on thinking it will.
Welcome Rugby Pike. Do you wear jersey 11 or are you 11 years old?
Pleased to see you on board.
If you're a Pom - how about that time wasting bit in the first cricket test?
If you're a Kiwi - I feel sorry for you, bro.
If you're an Aussie - get off. This is my board. My board. Fuck you! Get Off!
Na man it's all good.
I made myself laugh though - so that was great. Almost like an orgasm.
But with all those numbers fucking with my skull I can't think of sexy bitches so can we at least make a cap thread or something?
Just keep the cap numbers in their own thread so they don't bother any regular numbers or letters anytime soon.
Nice work, rugbypike. I sure as hell hope that Gordon is at 9.5 this year and not 10. 500k doesn't seem like much toward the salary cap, but it can definitely be the difference between getting a trade done and not.
The difference between 9.5 and 10 mil could really make a difference?
Hell Yeah!
Or how about starting his fucking salary at $8 million and telling the 6'2", super young gunslinger to sign on the dotted line or go live in Jordan's shadow for the rest of your days, bitch!
Or, if you're really smart, cap savvy and completely tuned in to what's really going down you can give the dude the $9.5 or $10 mil and screw yourself out of a reasonable big man!
Your choice, Joe.
What?
You already chose?
But the game just started, Joe.
Say It Ain't So, Joe, Say It Ain't So.