I am not religious, but I'm praying for this deal not to work. I HATE Steve Nash (don't know why, I just do) and don't want him to get a ring.
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I am not religious, but I'm praying for this deal not to work. I HATE Steve Nash (don't know why, I just do) and don't want him to get a ring.
Ego is a big deal for some stars. And at the end of the day you cant keep paying them all max contracts long term, which what he'll probably want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
I think the contract was a big thing too. They were not committed to keeping him past this year. Neither is Miami, but at least he has a to establish himself somewhere. If Miami starts winning, he'll be seen as a huge reason why. Already people are talking about his influence on the lockerroom there. I think he just wanted a team committed to him a little more than the Suns were. He's been rumored to be traded for a long time, I'm sure that wears on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
Marion had a desire to play his natural position. Full-time undersized PF while being asked to cover the faster PGs because Nash can't D kinda wears on you.
Skip Bayless (of all people) brought up a good point. PHX don't need Shaq to run with them, they just need him to initiate the break.
I agree, but with that having been said I hope Shaq gets hurt (again) and misses a significant amount of time (again) and that he's not able to click with the team. I say that in the nicest way I can of course, because i'd be a dick if I said I wanted him to suffer a season/career ending injury.
Except Shaq isn't a good enough rebounder to initiate the break. They lost defense and boards in this deal. You can't initiate a break when the opposition gets uncontested layup after uncontested layup because Shaq & Nash can't defend the pick-and-roll. :)
Side note: Marion was the highest paid Sun, so I don't think money is as big of a factor as people make it out to be. HE WAS THE BEST AND MOST VALUABLE SUN BUT NEVER GOT ANY CREDIT. He was buried because 1)the white media crowned Steve Nash(the worst MVP in the history of sports) as their Messiah because he made a lot of cute passes and Phoenix winning was a "feel good story", and 2)Amare dunked a lot, then orgasm'd afterwards.
With Marion, it's more about respect than money.
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Originally Posted by The Archdiocese
That's exactly what I was saying. It was all about being top dog for him, or as close as he could get to it. Only D-Wade above him in Miami.
good for him. good luck being top dog, no rings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zekyl
Zero rings being the third fiddle "team guy" in Phoenix. Pretty much lose/lose either way for Marion as an individual. Not sure if he could swallow his pride and self-respect and sign with a team like SA or DET for nothing in order to win a chip when he opts out. Doubt it, I do.
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Originally Posted by The Archdiocese
if thats how he ever saw it, no wonder he has no rings.Quote:
Zero rings being the third fiddle "team guy" in Phoenix.
Iffy waters you're walking on there Arch. So he should play low level teams to show off his pride(ego imo, but whatever)? Dude wants a max contract and the suns dont want to give him one. He doesnt lose anything since he'll get paid well wherever he plays next year. If it happens to be an elite team, does that mean he's looking for a free chip? I dont think so, but to each his own. I think you're playing too much of a violin for Marion. There is no lose situation for him at this juncture.Quote:
Not sure if he could swallow his pride and self-respect and sign with a team like SA or DET for nothing in order to win a chip when he opts out. Doubt it, I do.
As far as the MVP thing goes, When phoenix plays 500 ball like they do w/o Nash, I'll buy the Nash is horrible idea.