as of midnight...

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Originally Posted by Pharaoh

microwave: Good job.

And you're 100% right.

If we're getting back $3,000,000 in tax from the league, but only paying $1,000,000 then shouldn't the owner be happy?

That's the key for me - I wish you could do the math right now.

If possible could you do it tomorrow?

Maths done.

Cap-heads will get this. For everyone else I plan on writing it up (with escrow calculations) and posting later.

I used StoryTeller's salaries.

Based on last year with pre-determined and fixed Cap @ $49.5 million and Tax at $61.7 million (per Coon) teams 12 teams paid $169,302,702 in tax.

The 18 teams under the tax limit each received a 30th share of $5,643,423.40.

The remaining money (assuming the league did not take any for investment) was split equally 30 ways with all of the franchises.

That was $2,257,369.36.

So theoretically, teams under the tax limit (like the Piston) stood to make $7,900,792.76 in repayments. Teams over the tax limit only got the $2,257,369.36

If that held true this season, an owner could exceed the tax limit approx. $2.25 million and get reimbursed for the overage. Of course if they come in one dollar under the cap, they stand to walk away with a cool $7.9 million in found money.

So if Bill D. spends $61.6 iin salaries with a tax limit of $61.7, his actual salary costs are $53.7. And escrow could bring it even lower.

Intentional double post.

The above really brings into focus the amount of money to be made (saved) by staying under the tax limit, and how teams over the tax limit are truly spending head and shoulders more on their roster than the responsible (sic) owners.

Question about the over 36 clause...Does it only apply to max deals? The reason I ask is how can anyone offer a 5 year deal if Ben will be over 36.

Thanks for the math, microwave.

So we've got an billionaire owner that thinks it's not worth $8 mil/yr. to help win 1 maybe 2-3 additional championships.

The math clears that up nicely.

Do you think he'd recover that $8 mil if we won them?

Ben isn't worth $15-16 million. He just isn't. Re-signing him at that price won't help us win anything.

We also need additional pieces OTHER than ben wallace, and thats costs money too.

And yes, Obviously there's a no-tax edict from davidson, i mean he must talk personally to some of you guys, you seem to know exactly what he thinks....

The Detroit Pistons started their free agent negotiating period by offering Ben Wallace a 4 year, $48 million dollar contract, according to Michigan Live.

The deal, if Wallace accepts, would make him the highest-paid player in Pistons history.

via Michigan Live

So Philly wants to make an offer.

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Courier Post Online - On the first day of free agent negotiations, Sixers GM Billy King was on the phone reaching out to the representative of at least one high-profile free agent: Detroit Pistons center Ben Wallace, according to the Courier Post Online.

According to ESPN.com, the Pistons are "reluctant" to offer Wallace, who turns 32 in September, anything more than a four-year deal, although it would start at between $11 and $12 million.

What could they offer us? Samuel Dalembert? Possibly AI? lol

Assuming Joe resumes his talks from Wed, and let's assume AI is on the radar. What do we do if a deal could be reached? I mean do we then have a cough cough deal ( I don't mean illegal) to trade seperately Rip for Dally? I mean assuming Detroit gave Ben 14.7 or more in a S&T Detoit could take back AI's 18.3 million. Rip for Dally works straight up.

Ben for AI with no secondary deal in place makes no sense.

I would do Ben for Dalembert and Igudola, not sure Philly would.

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Originally Posted by Cross

The Detroit Pistons started their free agent negotiating period by offering Ben Wallace a 4 year, $48 million dollar contract, according to Michigan Live.

The deal, if Wallace accepts, would make him the highest-paid player in Pistons history.

via Michigan Live

Link: http://www.mlive.com/pistons/stories...110.xml&coll=1

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Pistons offer Wallace 4-year, $48 million deal

Sunday, July 02, 2006

By A. Sherrod Blakely

AUBURN HILLS -- The Detroit Pistons got the ball rolling on negotiations with Ben Wallace on Saturday, offering the unrestricted free agent a four-year contract worth $48 million.

In presenting the proposed deal to Wallace's agent, Arn Tellum, Detroit offered Wallace a contract that would make him the highest-paid player in Pistons history.

Tellum was one of the few agents the Pistons spoke with on Saturday, the first day of free agency in the NBA. That's because the Pistons have to determine whether they can re-sign Wallace, a four-time All-Star, before they pursue other free agents.

Aware of the Pistons' priority regarding Wallace, agents didn't expect a call back from Detroit on Saturday.

Bill Duffy represents several of the more prominent free agents this summer, such as ex-Piston Mike James, Drew Gooden, Fred Jones, Michael Olowokandi (who played for Pistons coach Flip Saunders in Minnesota), and Speedy Claxton, who Joe Dumars, Detroit's president of basketball operations, is interested in.

"Joe's inundated with Ben Wallace right now," said Duffy, who also represents Pistons forward Tayshaun Prince. "That's where his focus is right now. We agents understand that."

Dumars' commitment to taking care of his own players, Duffy said, is among reasons other players are attracted to Detroit.

"That's one of his children, so you can understand why that's something Joe is really focusing in on right now," said Duffy, referring to Wallace. "He knows that part of the appeal to coming to Detroit is playing with Ben Wallace."

Still, William Phillips, who represents Bonzi Wells, said he was contacted by the Pistons regarding Wells.

A former Pistons draft pick, Wells had a great playoff series for Sacramento this spring. Although the Kings lost their first-round series in six games to the San Antonio Spurs, Wells was arguably the series' best player. The 6-foot-5 guard averaged 23.2 points and 12 rebounds per game while shooting 60.9 percent from the field in the series.

The Pistons may be willing to offer Wells a multi-year contract that would start at the mid-level exception, which should be about $5 million next season. However, because of Wells' strong postseason, other teams may be willing to pay him more than that.

Another player the Pistons may pursue later this summer as a backup point guard is ex-Piston Chucky Atkins. They also could re-sign Tony Delk or Lindsey Hunter.