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I think I learn something from Uncle Mxy's posts every day.
Might be my favorite Uncle.
Carter sat by the fireplace instead of doing anything. THE shittiest prez in our history. You can put it on his predecessor, but that doesn't ring true to me.
Going that route...I can say the tech bust, that bust that started under Clinton, was what Dubya had to deal with and 911. Clinton could have helped not leaving those 2 problems to his successor.
Cutting taxes IS the way to keep the economy strong. The Dems know it, but won't admit it, imo. Kennedy knew it for sure.
The economy is booming in most sectors right now, and thats because of tax cuts. Yes, I did say booming. One of the areas it is not booming is in the housing market and it is kicking me in the ass on a daily basis.
Going back and discussing what this prez left this prez and what that prez left that prez, is really a waste of time imo, so I'll just close by what I started with, having Carter talk, while incredibly misguided imo, is good for the Reps. And talk about a softball interview, come on Wolf, challenge him on some of his assertions.
Ford had the same issues. Nixon had badly jacked around with the economy owing to Vietnam (which he inherited from Democrats) and his desire to be re-elected in 1972, and OPEC didn't help matters any. Carter did "conserve" over "invest", which was the economic dogma of the day. Remember, there was Depression-era folks at one end and severe Watergate distrust at the other. Lots of folks screamed "balanced budget amendment" over what we'd consider trivial %s of deficit spending by Carter. Had Carter, Ford, or Reagan proposed Reaganomics in 1976, without many years of suffering beforehand, he'd have been throttled. The only other radical approach that got any sort of significant air play at the time was a huge gas tax like what Europe did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoe
I'm mostly crediting Clinton with doing his tax increase, then staying out of the way of what was largely a good thing (though somewhat overblown). His biggest mistake was not overriding Greenspan, leaving that big fat cookie jar for the next guy rather than leaving it for his successor. It would've been a good rainy day fund to overcome the financial aspects of the 9/11 crisis. Oh, that's right, in the summer of 2001, Bush was glad to give away money. Too much money in government's hands was bad. Then he found he needed to give away a bunch money he didn't have in response to various real and imagined emergencies -- borrow-and-spend conservatism at its finest.Quote:
Going that route...I can say the tech bust, that bust that started under Clinton, was what Dubya had to deal with and 911. Clinton could have helped not leaving those 2 problems to his successor.
Michigan implemented a bunch of tax cuts while things were booming and got into the dumps. Most of the boom I see is on paper from international firms, with more money going out for energy and health costs. Real buying power has been going down for quite a spell. Anyone remember a time when both the man and the woman didn't have to go out into the workforce?Quote:
Cutting taxes IS the way to keep the economy strong. The Dems know it, but won't admit it, imo. Kennedy knew it for sure.
The economy is booming in most sectors right now, and thats because of tax cuts. Yes, I did say booming. One of the areas it is not booming is in the housing market and it is kicking me in the ass on a daily basis.
I don't get how it's good for the Republicans? Carter was never demonized by the Republicans to the same extent that, say, Hillary Clinton was and is. With Gore's Nobel, Carter really is yesterday's news. He's a harmless old coot, no more or less.Quote:
Going back and discussing what this prez left this prez and what that prez left that prez, is really a waste of time imo, so I'll just close by what I started with, having Carter talk, while incredibly misguided imo, is good for the Reps. And talk about a softball interview, come on Wolf, challenge him on some of his assertions.
The tech boom was mostly funny money. A lot of that was criminal. Some of those fund mgrs were going to .com companies who had nothing more than an address asking, sometimes begging, for a company that just opened its doors with no employees, no profit, sometimes no business whatsoever to go public, then they'd push it and sell it and in the end our moms and dads retirement portfolios took the hit. It started to unravel the last year of Clinton.
I love Michigan, but applying economic strategies to Michigan and expecting the same result isn't the way to go, imo. My family is all happy there, so I don't want to be beating it up, but bringing Mich into the disccussion is not a good one.
Just to say it again, Bush did not hold the line on spending. He had some pretty serious shit to deal with, .com bust, 911, etc, but he could have done so much better if he would have vetoed(sp?) some of those spending bills.
I love the conservative line on taxes and government spending. They're always saying the government levies too much in taxes (and conservative politicians do precious little about that except talk about it), and then they say we should cut spending. WTF man? If the government is taking too much money, fuckin' deliver some services! The only reason people don't like having taxes taken from them is they don't get anything in return for it! It's not a political principle thing to anyone but a few cranks. I'm pissed off that I gotta give up so much in taxes and I might as well be throwing it down the well. I'll give up 90% of my paycheck if the government would actually do something besides paying military contractors to develop a bomb that turns people gay or paying for tax exemptions for CompuWare.
Bush cut taxes...is that precious little?
Fucking congress trying to pass a resolution condemning Turkey and using the word 'genocide' right now while we are at war. Its just stupid.
Turkey is huge in helping supply the troops, but good ol Congress has to get in there somehow.
Your tax dollars hard at work, fucking an ally of ours.
Agreed 100%! This is just plain dumb politically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tahoe
Rather than Congress pushing this directly, they should have just leaned on Bush to either back up these words or eat them:
http://www.anca.org/press_releases/p...es.php?prid=60
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Originally Posted by Dubya
I don't think there is much doubt that it fits the defintion, but for the country to pass a resolution condemning Turkey right now using the word genocide is, as you said, just dumb politically.
The other day Bush said 'mass killings' or something, but he pretty much did eat them.
Great move congress.
edit...thinking through your post a little more, congress making Bush 'eat those words' right now is almost as friggin stupid to me. Let it go!
BTW, two of Michigan's own Republicans were early co-sponsors -- McCotter and Knollenberg. But this one rigthfully falls to Pelosi and the Dems because they are in control of the House.