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Either Joe thinks shit out, or he doesn't You can't say he put a lot of thought into aquiring Ben and then say he wasnt thinking when he went after Joel. It doesnt work that way.
I HAVE proven that Joel and Ben at age 26 were pretty much at identical points in their careers. You can re-write hsitory all you want, but the fact is nobody thought he was anything more than a decent role player.
Just maybe, oh I dunno, Joe Dumars might just know a little more about this shit?
Really? Getting jacked for Ben by Paxson and Skiles with nothing in return moved him a lot further down my idiot scale towards terminal retard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
Anyone who thinks Pryzbilla will be special based on numbers alone (1) doesn't play basketball, and (2) can't observe basketball.
Ben could switch on LeBron. Pryzbilla will crap his tighty whities the first time he gets trapped on the perimiter with Wade or LBJ. The dude makes the statue of Liberty look limber.
Instead of propping up a bunch of BS shot blocking #s, let's talk about how JP is almost 5 inches taller than Ben. Let's talk about about the fact he's played only 55% of the available games in the last 4 years. Let's talk about how he started only a quarter of his team's games, or half of what he played.
The last caucasian to win the DPOY was Mark Eaton. And JP reminds me of Jon Koncak.
The MLE for this bum is a joke.
This is a tough position that the Pistons are in. It might be best to think of it as "what is the best value they can get for the MLE".
Factor in that we need a center that can log minutes and defend the rim and I'd be okay with Pryz at the full MLE (rather give it to him than Banks, for sure) and someone is going to give him the whole MLE.
If nothing else he can be moved later, but it's all about acquiring assets right now IMO, gotta get back into a position of strength.
Maybe we can sign Pryz to the MLE and still get Bonzi via sign and trade? I don't have time to look at what we could send to Sacramento for Bonzi.
Having a DD/Pryz platoon might be about the best recovery that Joe D can pull off right about now.
Bag of Chips, Cato a pick and a note saying sorry we had to rape you but we needed Bonzi.
yea that would be real fucked up if i said that. Kstat your power of assumption is failing you for the millionth time. [smilie=blaha.gif]Quote:
Originally Posted by Kstat
You act like he picked Pryzbilla out of a great litter of FA Centers. the market is fucked at that position. he took all that he was gonna get. And the guy isnt a starter. Spin it whatever way you want, but he isnt. Doesnt make Joe an idiot. It makes you one if you keep putting words in my mouth :). Joe wasnt a genius to get Ben either, more words to put into my mouth. He was flat out lucky. Sometimes you get lucky. He's unlucky that ben is gone in a year when the best centers available are nazr and pryzbilla.
Oh, I observed him pretty damn well intimidating the shit out of us when Portland nearly beat us twice with that garbage roster.Quote:
Anyone who thinks Pryzbilla will be special based on numbers alone (1) doesn't play basketball, and (2) can't observe basketball.
Most overrated thing Ben's ever been known for.Quote:
Ben could switch on LeBron. Pryzbilla will crap his tighty whities the first time he gets trapped on the perimiter with Wade or LBJ. The dude makes the statue of Liberty look limber.
Yes, he switched out on guards, and they usually shot over him or drew a foul going by him.
But yes, Pryz will never even be able to switch out, which I guess makes every other center in the NBA a bum too.
As I said, somehow Joel's height would turn into a negative because Ben's so short.....Quote:
Instead of propping up a bunch of BS shot blocking #s, let's talk about how JP is almost 5 inches taller than Ben.
But you're right. 7-footers suck. We should only play 6'7" centers. Last time I checked, there wasn't a handicap in the NBA for being short.
...and if we marched to that tune, we wouldnt have chauncey, Dice or rip right now either.Quote:
Let's talk about about the fact he's played only 55% of the available games in the last 4 years.
...and the clincher.Quote:
The last caucasian to win the DPOY was Mark Eaton. And JP reminds me of Jon Koncak.
OMG HE'S WHITE! WE CANT SIGN A WHITE CENTER! NOOOOOO!
that'll work if cato was ever thinking about being a part of it. which he probally wont. nobody is trying to do us favors these days. Wheres danny ainge when you need him for a trade. Zeke too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JS
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Originally Posted by themicrowave
My Favorite line of the night, regardless of how I feel about Pryz.
As long as you're willing to admit you said the same thing about Ben in 2000, i'm ok with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gutz Gatsu
And if you tell me what ben was somehow more qualified to start than joel is now at the same age, you're lying through your teeth.
Microwave when you read Kstats posts. Remember he's a Ben Hater from day one. That'll help you find logic to these weak arguments he makes against him and for any replacement for him.:cool: