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infact, in the mid 1800's, there was no homosexuallity. its a biproduct of changing living conditions where a person could live outside the basic familly structure). more, i think the acceptance of homosexuallity into our culture is probably just another step in an overall trend of moral decline that will probably do a 180 when people start trying to making pedelophilia or necrophelia acceptable to the mainstream.
LMFAO.
Can I have a link to a credible source that can prove there was no homosexuality in the 1800's?
Shit, there was homosexuality before the time of Jesus, so you're at LEAST 1,800 years off (and I'd say millions of years off if you accept that the world is more than 6,000 years old).
PS: The divorce rate is much HIGHER in conservative states, such as Texas, that don't allow gay marriage, than it is in liberal states that do allow gay marriage.
So, if you use the logic of conservative republicans, the only way to save the institution of straight marriage is for every state to permit gay marriage.
I have kept my personal beliefs out of this one and will continue to but It's too bad that some in here want to spin this issue in such a way to make you believe that banning gay marriage is a neocon, republican or conservative crusade. Nothing is further from the truth unless most of America is conservative.
leaving my personal feelings out of this I firmly believe this is a states rights issue that should be decided by the voter and the American public has spoken on this issue time and again. Sorry, but the views expressed on this forum, on this matter are in the minority.
ABC News Poll. May 31-June 4, 2006. N=1,001 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3. Fieldwork by TNS Intersearch.
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"Do you think homosexual couples should or should not be allowed to form legally recognized civil unions, giving them the legal rights of married couples in areas such as health insurance, inheritance and pension coverage?
Should 45%
Should Not 48%
Unsure 7%
Do you think it should be legal or illegal for homosexual couples to get married?"
Legal 36%
Illegal 58%
Unsure 5%
Gallup Poll. May 8-11, 2006. N=1,002 adults nationwide. MoE ± 3 (for all adults
Do you think marriages between homosexuals should or should not be recognized by the law as valid, with the same rights as traditional marriages?" N=515, MoE ± 5 (Form A)
Should be Valid 39%
Should not Be valid 58%
Unsure 4%
"Would you favor or oppose a constitutional amendment that would define marriage as being between a man and a woman, thus barring marriages between gay or lesbian couples?"
Favor 50%
Oppose 47%
Unsure 3%
There are several other polls I could post and you may want to check how liberal California and Oregon voted on the voter referendum to allow gay marriage.
Wait.
I thought our beloved president doesn't pay attention to the polls.
Oh. Wait. Are you acknowledging that the only reason GWB is pushing gay marriage right now is that the republicans are DESPERATE to come up with a divisive, wedge issue to take voter's minds off important governmental issues such as economy, education, infrastructure, security, the military, etc., heading into the 2006 congressional elections, because the only issues republicans can win on are wedge issues like abortion and gay marriage?
Are you acknowledging the only reason GWB is pushing gay marriage is his party is grasping at straws and trying desperately to stay afloat by pandering to his base?
If you're not, you should be. That's what's going on here.
Of course, they used to be able to win on terrorism/security, but I think americans are realizing they suck at that, too.